Yes, a warning light could be set to pop if goes bellow a certain value, we did after we lost the oil belt, lol. But kill ignition is a bad idea. Those cars rely on the load go go somewhere, if you kill ignition on a situation where you need that load you can induce a bad crash. So yes, my bad, didnt setup a warning, but not, it would not have killes the engine. It runs straight 70w oil, no damage occur on that oil press loss during burnout.
And a locked engine with a rod out won't cause any problems or incident They don't have to cut it totally they could limp it somewhat to keep it turning modestly but she won't last long anyway neck minute nip And boom I'd rather it nip and boom at 80mph Than 150 or more
Hey Luis so this might be a dumb question but would a warning light really help if something like that happened? The only reason I'm asking is I know stuff happens so quick in those motors that it seems like there wouldn't be enough time to react to the warning light.
As a software engineer (who also worked with FT Manager in its early days) and also have a race car, but for time attacks, the current state of FT700PLUS is something out of this world! Congratulations to the embedded software and hardware teams at FT. Looking further to have mine installed. PS: The lack of oil pressure red light was scary yet funny to see, since I imagine the anxiety to have the new hardware deployed, and sometimes we forget about the basics.
Ty for the true test video without hiding the imperfections that showed themselves. So many hide stuff but showing the true way things shake down goes much farther in trust. Racing and testing is about seeking out weak points and faults not actually racing much
For the people wondering we don't use safeties at higher levels of racing because it can cost you an important race or qualifying pass... It's hard to remember to switch them on and off between testing and racing so a lot of guys don't use them at all... Also this is completely brand new set up there's a chance even if he wanted to run it he just forgot to turn it on but that is why you don't see safeties on a lot of these cars stop catastrophic failures not to mention things are happening so fast it takes less than a tenth of a second to burn a hole in a piston
@@charlesmill6258 That is not TRUE! Most of them dont run any saftie, if you go to pro drift no one uses safties, because a bad sensor can make you lost race, or even worst, crash the car in case of drifters. Pro level just dont use them.
What kind of 10000 rpm wizardry is going on inside that engine ?? Wow...... Respect Luis, PJS race engines, Slick Rick racing heads, & Chris Nelson.... Very nice FT700+ Can't wait to see more of them being used in other cars...
You are just an awesome and fun guy. I love your attitude and the entire Fuel Tech line. I truly wish you the best in life, you deserve it. "Oh the sweet sound of racecars!". Also, that is a very badass racecar. You built a monster, buddy. Good job. The 700plus is GORGEOUS. What a great system, truly. I can't wait to be able to put it in my racecar.
I saw this from the outside view on instagram and I thought "Man thats why they put those huge straps over the top of the ballistics wrap". Held on good
Crazy seeing the front get pushed down when on the two step. Maybe I’ve just never seen that camera angle up close enough to see it on other cars. I know there’s downforce from the exhaust and such. Just never seen it on camera like that.
Not many guys run safeties at that level because it kills more races than it does saving you parts but for just testing if you can remember it's good to put them on
@@freedomfox8183 interesting I never knew that. We had smashed our oil pan into the pickup inside the diaper from a wheelie landing and it def saved most of our motor. The OP safety came on after the burn out as we had spun 1 rod bearing
@@freedomfox8183 it's easy to set up programming that only under WoT safeties disabled... I see your logic but this is just lazy programming if anything. This can easily fixed with checks n balances... just have to fine tune the profile
With the cost of the engine and all the supporting mods .. if my oil pressure drops below a certain pressure the car should automatically turn off and the oil pressure light should blink indicating an issue…
eu sou leigo, mas se o "quadradinho da pressão de oleo" tivesse um alerta e ficasse vermelho avisando que tinha zerado a pressão seria uma coisa legal e ajudaria muito não?
I'm very interested in the pjs racing engine is build it looks like a semi hemi wedge engine with a lot of hemi architecture? Those heads and I take ports look crazy. The angle of the intake ports at the short turn look really nice
Such big screen, and it looks very responsive on touch too! There might be someone who could use one to replace the stock Lamborghini V12 dual ECUs with those four throttle bodies... Curious if possible to put chain drive instead of belt on that camshaft, might want to regularly replace that belt if not possible. Other than that it rips! Hitting it harder next time around!
Proline is hitting 80lɓs of boost with their hemi twin turbo setup and it's extremely reliable, just rarely breaks parts..and it's much more efficient because exhaust drives the turbo so it robbing little power from the engine..
Judging by the completely different dash settings in the video, he probably had some tune profile that he wanted to test and forgot to switch the alert on for that profile.
Crazy that the ft700 didnt flash fed or something, anything, when there was 0 oil. When I seen it at 0 psi, i was screaming at my phone, TURN IT OFF!! LOL
Why the fukk doesnt the motor automatically cut off at 0 psi? They think theyre doing such a good job, but thats BAD. Also why are they still running belts? This is 2025, they need CHAINS ⛓️ for the mech. fuel pump, oil pump, and mech water pump (if not running brushless-water pump). I truly feel like this guy only thinks about himself and his product, not the mechanics of the engine.. nor give a damm about the cost of this racing program (since hes just the driver). If he were the owner of the car, he would look for alternatives to all those belts on a 3900hp build.
@@cxbra LOL you have 0 idea about what you are talking about, first off, every single person runs belts and dry sumps... second, no one uses safties at pro level bacause a bad sensor can make you loose races or even crash, third go learn how things work before talk shit when you have no clue.
He didn't set the alert, pretty much it I think I guess he had different profiles of tunes he wanted to test and forgot to set the alert in one of them
@@chucklyons454 yes you can select what you want to happen when a. Threshold is passed. Just warn you or rpm limit or shut off. Works for many different parameters like egt temp also
I have only seen one belt lose the cog's in 30 years of building motors and it was because there was binding in the valve train. The valve spring were not set up correctly and they where coil binding.
Because without boost and all that additional fuel for boost the motor just snuffs out. As far as when he broke the oil pump belt it wasn't under load and he had pressure through most all the burnout. Engines can survive even ones like this. can live for a short time at idle. It sure don't take long before you get bearings to touch down pretty much all babit style bearings will touch down real quick after losing pressure. No more hydro wedge to separate the part
Your lucky the oil belt fell on the track and was noticed by the crew member, You dash should have light up red to warn you had no oil pressure instantly ! If you made that run your engine would be toast! Do these FT ECUs have that feature so dash can light up red on low oil pressure?
With something as serious as loosing oil pressure why doesn’t it give you a warning? Maybe the screen turn red and flashing so the driver can notice it immediately.
oh shit..... on the pass it destroyed everything, look at your gas foot...... Looks like it had a stuck throttle? Or is it normal for it to not immediately shut when you lift off the pedal? WOW
Is that a flaw in the FT700 hardware itself? I'd say that's a programming flaw. That's not to say this wasn't a considerable OOPSIE, but I don't see it reflecting badly on the digital dash itself.
I can't believe at this high level of racing the oil light or even a safety margin was not built in? Zero oil pressure is not good, the driver is not aware of the problem but surly the high advanced engine management system should of identified this problem
@fabini14 but surly a safety on oil pressure Would be a very helpfull and cost effective. But to be honest tge ecu is a safety device inessence Safety on fuel on boost on timing so racers do use safties 😉
Yes, a warning light could be set to pop if goes bellow a certain value, we did after we lost the oil belt, lol. But kill ignition is a bad idea. Those cars rely on the load go go somewhere, if you kill ignition on a situation where you need that load you can induce a bad crash. So yes, my bad, didnt setup a warning, but not, it would not have killes the engine. It runs straight 70w oil, no damage occur on that oil press loss during burnout.
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And a locked engine with a rod out won't cause any problems or incident
They don't have to cut it totally they could limp it somewhat to keep it turning modestly but she won't last long anyway neck minute nip
And boom
I'd rather it nip and boom at 80mph
Than 150 or more
Hey Luis so this might be a dumb question but would a warning light really help if something like that happened? The only reason I'm asking is I know stuff happens so quick in those motors that it seems like there wouldn't be enough time to react to the warning light.
If you want: You could add a Twin Belt set-up on the Oil Pump?
As a software engineer (who also worked with FT Manager in its early days) and also have a race car, but for time attacks, the current state of FT700PLUS is something out of this world! Congratulations to the embedded software and hardware teams at FT. Looking further to have mine installed.
PS: The lack of oil pressure red light was scary yet funny to see, since I imagine the anxiety to have the new hardware deployed, and sometimes we forget about the basics.
right crazy to think you have a $6000 ecu and dont have a basic safety setup
@@mauricewaddelliii6244
$6k? ... wow
I has the safety, you just have to enable it.
Ty for the true test video without hiding the imperfections that showed themselves. So many hide stuff but showing the true way things shake down goes much farther in trust. Racing and testing is about seeking out weak points and faults not actually racing much
You guys are winners to me to thrash like that to get it back together is insane
Se o Luiz de Leon tá no vídeo é certeza absoluta de like
For the people wondering we don't use safeties at higher levels of racing because it can cost you an important race or qualifying pass... It's hard to remember to switch them on and off between testing and racing so a lot of guys don't use them at all... Also this is completely brand new set up there's a chance even if he wanted to run it he just forgot to turn it on but that is why you don't see safeties on a lot of these cars stop catastrophic failures not to mention things are happening so fast it takes less than a tenth of a second to burn a hole in a piston
Not true…. The only time those are off is when it’s a send it let it blow. When all have agreed that It’s a 50/50 chance of grenading.
@@charlesmill6258 That is not TRUE! Most of them dont run any saftie, if you go to pro drift no one uses safties, because a bad sensor can make you lost race, or even worst, crash the car in case of drifters. Pro level just dont use them.
@ this ain’t drift this pro drag racing to different sides of the world….. stay in the lane your familiar with
@@fabini14 pretty much, at maximum people have lights as alerts but it won't shut the engine off
please tell me why when the oil pressure went to 0 the little oil pressure box on the screen wasn't flashing red to immediately get your attention.
That’s the most important safety setting
I was thinking the same thing... surely that should be the first safety programmed
Right? All those electronics and not even a dummy light. "Oil pressure? We don' need no stinking oil pressure"
Should have it set to shut down not just flash pretty lights.
@@traitorhatergetarope3163exactly
What kind of 10000 rpm wizardry is going on inside that engine ??
Wow...... Respect Luis, PJS race engines, Slick Rick racing heads, & Chris Nelson....
Very nice FT700+ Can't wait to see more of them being used in other cars...
Best of luck next year Luis!
Now that's dedication boys and girls!!
Keep bringing racing videos showing your products in action and you’ll grow so fast it will be overwhelming. That 700 looks amazing 👍🏻
Great vid, love watching.
You are just an awesome and fun guy. I love your attitude and the entire Fuel Tech line. I truly wish you the best in life, you deserve it. "Oh the sweet sound of racecars!". Also, that is a very badass racecar. You built a monster, buddy. Good job. The 700plus is GORGEOUS. What a great system, truly. I can't wait to be able to put it in my racecar.
So cool to instantly be able to pull data logs like that!!
can't wait to see you guys out at the track next year.
All and all a pretty good season and race all considered good job FuelTech!💪🏻
Well the 700 looks great!
That was an incredible comeback.
First time out, looks like you have a hotrod.
Congratulations!
I would think the square that the oil pressure is in would turn RED when pressure drops
Later in the video it does, so i think they just hadn't configured yet, that pump belt issue certainly urged them to do so.
Awesome video always the best from fueltech
Whats been the difference between a c and d rotor screw blower from psi or other brands ? And how come not running proline mh7 ?
Great work guys, a great insight and just goes to show that everything needs to work together to get it done 💪💪👍
I saw this from the outside view on instagram and I thought "Man thats why they put those huge straps over the top of the ballistics wrap". Held on good
love th huge screen
Luiz é foda sucesso aí na arrancada americana acompanho todos vcs aqui de Arapiraca Alagoas não perco um sábado os vídeos do Anderson
Hey Lewis you're the man love what you do brother❤ if you want the best get a FUELTECH always in the WINNER CIRCLE 😊
Great video!
Always everything Professional!
Best of Luck for 2025 ❤
Warning light for oil pressure 🎉fuel tech for the win anyway
14:02 broke the everything
its the mythical ft700, they do exist
The first batch of chips was manufactured a month ago, I think people will get one soon.
Nice!
A lot of new equipment congratulations on making it work and now you know some of the flaws to fix 3:53 in the quarter is damn fast
equipe top demais!!!
Orlando speed world!
Luis-will you tell me what the acronym’BAR’ means-btw you are the man-the GOAT-keep going man…
Broke Azz Racing LOL
Louis69 time 💪🏼🏁
Should you add a flashing red warning light in the oil pressure section of the FT700Plus display when the oil pressure drops to zero?
We need more racing videos to go along with the dyno videos. One question why not a proline hemi since they are right there at your location
Proline-Supercharger combos are not that Common
Great video ! Well done. Sorry about all the damage. Good luck in 2025.
Crazy seeing the front get pushed down when on the two step. Maybe I’ve just never seen that camera angle up close enough to see it on other cars. I know there’s downforce from the exhaust and such. Just never seen it on camera like that.
Not running a Proline Hemi?
Nice pit box.👍
So why no flashing graphic when the oil pressure dropped? Or an auto shut-off? Something to get the drivers attention.
It will definitely be enabled moving forward lol
@@Gatf4no it won't not during competition safeties lose races
Not many guys run safeties at that level because it kills more races than it does saving you parts but for just testing if you can remember it's good to put them on
@@freedomfox8183 interesting I never knew that. We had smashed our oil pan into the pickup inside the diaper from a wheelie landing and it def saved most of our motor. The OP safety came on after the burn out as we had spun 1 rod bearing
@@freedomfox8183 it's easy to set up programming that only under WoT safeties disabled... I see your logic but this is just lazy programming if anything. This can easily fixed with checks n balances... just have to fine tune the profile
What gears are you running in the rearend
Thank you
Yes, it looked like over 300psi before it kicked the belt! Did you notice the throttle hung when you released it,& then it popped the blower!
What happened to the 2jz pro line built?
Nothing
With the cost of the engine and all the supporting mods .. if my oil pressure drops below a certain pressure the car should automatically turn off and the oil pressure light should blink indicating an issue…
Looks like it was a good time. Three belts. Oil, cam, blower. Looks like you need to start making comp belts
Is there anyway to put automatic shut off censors on oil pump cam belt
can u tell us about D rotor and C rotor supercharger
Wepa that shift
why isn't there a safety within the fancy computer where if the oil pressure drops below a certain value it kills the ignition?
You sale stock? I'd love to back a winner!!
What size tire were you running? 275?
How come you guys aren’t finishing the whole track? Is it just for practice for the whole 1/4 mile race track?
That was a pretty major problem to fix at the track. First time I have seen a motor break all of the valve train.
sugestão, quando filmarem a passada de dentro do carro coloquem a gravação da tela da ft na tela de quem ta assistindo para ver o que acontece.😉
eu sou leigo, mas se o "quadradinho da pressão de oleo" tivesse um alerta e ficasse vermelho avisando que tinha zerado a pressão seria uma coisa legal e ajudaria muito não?
I'm very interested in the pjs racing engine is build it looks like a semi hemi wedge engine with a lot of hemi architecture? Those heads and I take ports look crazy. The angle of the intake ports at the short turn look really nice
Can anyone explain the difference between the hat on your car, vs Dean's, vs Justin's......
Are there any advantage to any???
Such big screen, and it looks very responsive on touch too! There might be someone who could use one to replace the stock Lamborghini V12 dual ECUs with those four throttle bodies...
Curious if possible to put chain drive instead of belt on that camshaft, might want to regularly replace that belt if not possible. Other than that it rips! Hitting it harder next time around!
Surprised the belt did not come off on the hub dyno tests......
So your telling me the screw blower setup is 1500hp less than the twin turbo setup?? 🤔 im not understanding this
Proline is hitting 80lɓs of boost with their hemi twin turbo setup and it's extremely reliable, just rarely breaks parts..and it's much more efficient because exhaust drives the turbo so it robbing little power from the engine..
@douglasenzor48 I quickly realized Luis is not running a proline engine. But still, the parasitic loss on a screw blower is nowhere close to 1500hp
Why didn't you guys have a safety set on the oil pressure to shut it down or at least alert you to get your attention
Judging by the completely different dash settings in the video, he probably had some tune profile that he wanted to test and forgot to switch the alert on for that profile.
Looks like your first gear change had a major rpm drop. Did yall have a big timing dip at that shift?
Probably where they bring in the lockup
Crazy that the ft700 didnt flash fed or something, anything, when there was 0 oil. When I seen it at 0 psi, i was screaming at my phone, TURN IT OFF!! LOL
Why the fukk doesnt the motor automatically cut off at 0 psi? They think theyre doing such a good job, but thats BAD. Also why are they still running belts? This is 2025, they need CHAINS ⛓️ for the mech. fuel pump, oil pump, and mech water pump (if not running brushless-water pump). I truly feel like this guy only thinks about himself and his product, not the mechanics of the engine.. nor give a damm about the cost of this racing program (since hes just the driver). If he were the owner of the car, he would look for alternatives to all those belts on a 3900hp build.
@@cxbra LOL you have 0 idea about what you are talking about, first off, every single person runs belts and dry sumps... second, no one uses safties at pro level bacause a bad sensor can make you loose races or even crash, third go learn how things work before talk shit when you have no clue.
@@cxbra LOL all pro engines run belts... go watch steve morris, belt with 4000hp, chains are not good for this stuff.
It's a setup thing, he probably had some test profile that he forgot to put the alert on
Why was oil pressure
Not set to illuminate red when out of parameters. Ft600 does
He didn't set the alert, pretty much it I think
I guess he had different profiles of tunes he wanted to test and forgot to set the alert in one of them
does the ft 700 mean no laptop needed for data logging and minor tune changes?
Not required anymore, you can do everything using the screen. Also possible to change tunes with a smartphone.
Should do a C rotor next. 4000hp+
so the fueltech would have done its job if the oil pressure saftey was turned on?
@@chucklyons454 yes you can select what you want to happen when a. Threshold is passed. Just warn you or rpm limit or shut off. Works for many different parameters like egt temp also
I have only seen one belt lose the cog's in 30 years of building motors and it was because there was binding in the valve train. The valve spring were not set up correctly and they where coil binding.
Fluid on the windshield before she popped and I think I saw 9500 rpm wow
I didn’t hear what you said on hp , was that 3900hp
I thought he said 2995
@ at the end of video it shows the dyno run
How did that motor not grenade itself after belt fell off.
Because without boost and all that additional fuel for boost the motor just snuffs out. As far as when he broke the oil pump belt it wasn't under load and he had pressure through most all the burnout. Engines can survive even ones like this. can live for a short time at idle. It sure don't take long before you get bearings to touch down pretty much all babit style bearings will touch down real quick after losing pressure. No more hydro wedge to separate the part
Your lucky the oil belt fell on the track and was noticed by the crew member, You dash should have light up red to warn you had no oil pressure instantly ! If you made that run your engine would be toast! Do these FT ECUs have that feature so dash can light up red on low oil pressure?
With something as serious as loosing oil pressure why doesn’t it give you a warning? Maybe the screen turn red and flashing so the driver can notice it immediately.
He left a comment explaining why.. it’s pinned on the top of the comment section
Nice music send it alright
RCD gear drive ftw! At this power level and especially on hemis, i see most if not all the top guys using the RCD gear drive and not a jesel belt.
I can't believe the Fueltech didn't shut the engine down as soon as oil pressure left the building.
oh shit..... on the pass it destroyed everything, look at your gas foot...... Looks like it had a stuck throttle? Or is it normal for it to not immediately shut when you lift off the pedal? WOW
Hell yeaa
How the hell didn’t the ecu have a safety set for low oil pressure or at very least warning light going off, poor advertisement for the new FT700
Is that a flaw in the FT700 hardware itself? I'd say that's a programming flaw.
That's not to say this wasn't a considerable OOPSIE, but I don't see it reflecting badly on the digital dash itself.
6:28 This is what boostedboiz kyle will look like at 40 years old.
@12:47 = 9,918 RPM
No gear drive system instead of belt..?!?
275 or 325 tire?
315
When you see fuel spraying on the windshield, shut it off it’s gonna bang the blower !!!
Bet you they will change that oil pressure gauge to red flashing or engine shut down well done guys
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Wait wait wait you went pjs over proline I thought proline and fuel tech was like🤞🏾why you didn’t try the new 4.9 deal proline has
It’s not his car it’s bar racings car
How can a blower car make 2000 less hp than a turbo car, and be faster?
I dont know if i like the idea of having your cam ran by a belt. Just seems like one more thing that could easily mess alot of stuff up
Bet they change the programming on the oil pressure on the screen if its reading 0.0 while ignition is on that shit is gonna blink red
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You might want to pick up an oil accumulator for times like that.
Tem dublado 😂😂?
Put a gear on gear drive brother all the best from South Africa
the car should’ve shut off when the oil pressure got zero?!?🤔
Where's the oil pressure safety?! Or at least a red light for oil pressure light.
Não entendi uma palavra. Ainda bem que arrancada tem placar com números 😂
I can't believe at this high level of racing the oil light or even a safety margin was not built in?
Zero oil pressure is not good, the driver is not aware of the problem but surly the high advanced engine management system should of identified this problem
Pro racers dont use safties
@fabini14 but surly a safety on oil pressure
Would be a very helpfull and cost effective.
But to be honest tge ecu is a safety device inessence
Safety on fuel on boost on timing so racers do use safties 😉
Are you kidding me? No saftey on the oil pressure?!🤦♂️