dude...i am about to get my first analog synth...and u just summed up my 3 top questions in 10 minutes what i couldn't find in 10 days.....with a funky chill groove to go in my lunch box cause i just got schooled....thank so you much
I know this is an old video. But thanks for this. I was trying to decide between the Sub Phatty and the Grandmother. I was already leaning towards the Phatty. But this sealed the deal. Great video!
That was a fantastic video. I was looking for some help to use my Sub 37 with Ableton. Mad Zach, you're the man. Thanks for taking the time to put this on the webs.
Meh... it sounds really decent. There are synths that cost half price of sub phatty and sounds the same or even with extra functionality. If you want moog that is moog, sub37 is the one. Mother 32 can join the game.
Well no synth really sounds "the same" as a moog. The filter and warmth of moog is not something I've heard any other synth even come close to. I would probably say that moog mother 32 or perhaps a second hand moog of the same pricerange is enough though. More than that is not worth the price at all. I'd rather get for example a moog m32 PLUS several other synths than just one moog.
Ayo just found out about your videos today. REALLY GOOD content ;) I was especially looking for more intermediate/advanced techniques for ableton and your videos are full of useful stuff to get those creative juices flowin Large ups mate
Awesome video. Could you do a video or explain how to use multiple control devices in Ableton? I want to use a Tr-8, Apc40 MkII, Beatstep Pro, Mpk49, Akai Advance, and a Push. I can not figure out how to lock a device on a certain channel. I.e. dedicating the Advance to a strings channel and let the push move to channels as needed.
He reminds me of this quiet kid back in high school who could dance really well, but nobody knew it because he didn't talk much. I felt like I watched that kid bust out dancing in the middle of class when this guy started twisting knobs. Didn't know he had it in 'im.
HI i'm new to ableton and I just got my microbrute which is really awesome and i got that set up.. Line out from microbrute to input 1 roland cakewalk soundcard and midi in from microbrute to midi out soundcard and usb to pc. When I set up my external instrument I can hear the microbrute but when i press play on the track with a midi loop i can't hear it.. I don't know if its clear enough to see the problem I just can t wait to produce with that baby.
This was very informative thanks I didn't know it was that easy to Intergrate a hardware synth and how much control you can have with these really powerful synth apps on iOS coming out I it's gonna get more fun creating random sounds in the future I want a hardware synth now lol
i been trying for so long to hook up my rane 56 to ableton to record scratches (hardware wise).... can t beleive there NO videos on the topic. If one thing... one should make a video on how to do that im sure thats what most old school scratch djs would like to do first in ableton, BEING ABLE TO RECORD YOUR ANALOGUE TURNTABLE/MIXER IN ABLETON. I can do it in reaper through rewire/rearoute and virtual dj BUT THERE MUST be a way to do it in ableton too!! I have a midi turntable (numark ttx) with a timecoded vinyl, also i have a rane 56 ttm analogue mixer, with an audio 4 dj card with an rme audio interface. How to make all of that work in ableton to record scratches ? please help, thanks for the video, quite instructive! cheers
thanks zach great job!! big help!! i def need to invest in an audio interface before i purchase the arturia microbrute!! any suggestions on something affordable?
Or: you could just go ahead, record your knob-twiddling in Ableton and when you're done, check in the MIDI Ctr list of that clip which parameters got automated. Saves you the hassle of finding the synth manual (who knows where they are anyway?).
We have just get an Alesis DM10 electronic drum kit. How is it possible to use the drumkit as a midi trigger in Ableton but with velocity? We can trigger the audio samples with no problem but no matter how strong we hit the drumkit parts, the sample volume is always the same. I would be pretty happy if someone knew it! (The drumkit goes into an external sound card with audio output and directly into the computer by USB. Do we need to use the midi in and out slots too?)
Amazing video! I was wondering if there could be quality loss because of the audio output of the external hardware going through the audio interface. I am willing to use a Nord Drum 3P with my Komplete Audio 6. I guess it would always be possible to connect the Nord audio directly to the mixer without going through the interface. Of course that wouldnt allow me to mix the sound on ableton.
the filter automation he is doing at 10:04, is the filter sweeping coming from the actual Moog filter or is it from Ableton Live? Is him drawing it in in Ableton like that, the same as if he was physically turning the filter knob on the Moog? The filter itself is actually from the Moog? I suppose the drawing in just allows you to get way precise doing it visually instead of with your ears?
also guys if you want to check out an Ableton project where I used all analog sounds from the Moog check out (and help out with...) my crowdsourced EP project here: bit.ly/LUErO6
Dude such an awesome helpful video! I've been looking into getting a hardware synth for old school sounds and how to use with Ableton. Do you know a way to integrate with the Ableton Push 2 controller to switch between Moog and Ableton Push 2 controller?
Curious about tip #3, wouldn't it be easier to add a midi out from the moog to the edirol and record the midi data from the cutoff? I just personally hate clicking envelopes, well, mice in general, and it would sound quite a bit more human.
anyone know why he didnt have sync enabled? Im having issues with ableton tempo not changing the moog sound in external instrument. I hate the bpm thing on the moog cant get accurate .... Thanks
I think the external Hardware Setup isn't possible with an Ableton Live INTRO Version, which i only own. Any tricks, links, videos or Workarounds to get my combination work with external synths?
It's tough to reach for that MoPho when you got a Moog right beside it, isn't it? Oh, and stretch the hell out of those Moog samples. The Slim Phatty stretches out _real_ nice.
Thanks for the video! Is it possible to move away-from-keyboard by recording knob tweaks on the synth as automations in Ableton? (with a midi-cable connected on the out from the synth to the in on the i MIDI interface)
Hi, I am having problems doing this. I have a saffire pro which I use with ableton and ableton recognizes it in the audio preferences but not in the external instrument midi to. I can tempo trigger my hardware synth but cant get it to recieve midi notes. Thanks for any help
I like the look of the arrangement. Where did you get that awesome skin for Ableton? I don't think that's in the Ableton 9 preferences. Details please!. I notice you don't answer any of the comments on this video post.What purpose does that serve? please get back to some of the people on this thread and their questions. thanks!
I see you asked this a year ago, so you've probably either found it or moved on-- but just in case (or if anyone else looks for it), the skin I'm using in Live 9 looks pretty much exactly like this. It's called "Monolake". I've downloaded some skins, but I think this one came with Live. Idk what the default settings are, but mine is set to-- Brightness- 120%, Color Intensity- 0%, and Color Hue- 0. Those might be the default numbers... I can't remember.
For some reason I can't record anything from my Moog. I have my MIDI cables plugged into the back of my MPK49 because my Apollo twin doesn't have MIDI on the back. But should that matter? I can hear the Moog, and I can record the Moog using my MPK49 Keyboard, but not using my Moog's keyboard. And I can't record any knob turnings either unless I go into the clip and manually do it (which I don't like, because I want to do it myself sometimes). Another weird and EXTREMELY annoying thing is, every time I put an effect on the track my Moog is on, the settings on my Moog change, and the sound changes. Every single time. I can take the effect off, put a new effect on, and it will change again. I can't even EQ the sound because whenever I put an EQ on the channel, my Moog's settings change. So basically... I have to get the sound I want, move to my MIDI keyboard and record what I want, or just click in the notes. Then if I want automation, I have to manually do it. Then I have to resample it, and put effects on the resampled version that I'm not able to tweak anymore... It's really time consuming and ridiculous.
+Richard Smith The setting changed randomly when I put effects on the channel cause the MIDI was plugged into my MPK49 for some reason, so I got an iConnectMIDI2. I can record as well now.
Hi MZ, thanks for your Video. The way you show at 4:25 min. I get a lot of noise sounds if I play cutted loops from my recording. I work with the Korg minilogue, Ableton Live and Focusrite Scarlett 2i4. Do you have a tipp for me how I clear the noise sounds? I have read a lot of this toppic (zero point, etc.) but nothing helps.
Same with the Mio iConnectivity? It is a USB adapter going from computer. It has a MIDI IN (white) and MIDI OUT (black). I have the MIDI IN plugged into my MOOG, and the MIDI OUT plugged into the back of my interface, all while still connected via USB to Ableton. They synth audio is locked into Channel 2 on my interface. Am I on the right track here? I can't seem to get the MIDI to lock in with my hardware synth, but I'll have to try again. Perhaps my MIDI ports aren't setup correctly.
Hey Mad This is a very useful video. Thanks a lot. But I got a little problem trying to control my moog slim phatty with ableton. As soon as the moog gets the midi-signal from Ableton, the internel control buttens of the moog don't work anymore. Means nothing happens when I move the control buttons on the moog. Any Idea what I need to change in the settings? Thanks and all the best, Tobi
Hey guy I love your videos and I've learned so much from you so thank you for all of your help! I am attempting to send midi information from 3 different controllers and I wanted to know which audio interface you might suggest to do so. I will be using a midi keyboard for live keys, the Akai APC40 for live sampling, and my Moog Sub 37 all in alignment with effects and the masterclock in Ableton. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Wouldn't it be easier to run a midi cable from the output of the Moog? That way you can record the knob movement live (as well as automate via ableton)
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i like this dude hes got the funk
cutdafukup agreed, funk is present
Achievement unlocked - the woo force
straight funkadelic
Is this the actual human embodiment of Reid Stefan??
this is seriously singlehandedly one of the most informative videos. sick techniques thank you
everywhere i turn, Mad Zach is there. always one step ahead man
I like how you combined the 3 different approaches all in one. I searched fruitlessly for something like this awhile back. Great video, thanks!
mateee, thank you so much for this video. Not enough people out there actually stripping it back and explaining stuff well.
dude...i am about to get my first analog synth...and u just summed up my 3 top questions in 10 minutes what i couldn't find in 10 days.....with a funky chill groove to go in my lunch box cause i just got schooled....thank so you much
pure gold. best video and vibes I've seen on Live.
that drum rack was sick
Been waiting for a video on hardware synth vs ableton for YEARS. Well played M.Z. !
I know this is an old video. But thanks for this. I was trying to decide between the Sub Phatty and the Grandmother. I was already leaning towards the Phatty. But this sealed the deal. Great video!
Dude, you just drained my bank account with this video. THANKS A LOT :/
That was a fantastic video. I was looking for some help to use my Sub 37 with Ableton. Mad Zach, you're the man. Thanks for taking the time to put this on the webs.
I've just got you say YOU ROCK!! those jams were dope!
thanks, zach. new school meets old school (I'm old school). Gotta watch this again.
Really great vid! Please can you make an extra vid of the sample editing and chopping you've done there?
Thanks for this, not one of these videos out there! Moog doesn't even have tutorials on this. Amazing!
oh snap!! You've got the Freddie in full affect man!!!
Freddy
So this is what Freddy Kruger did before the serial killing...
Best video about Hardware on Live
Very inspiring techniques, especially the second one. Cheers mate.
Your tutorial is awesome. I learned more than in a 6 hrs course. Please more maybe a Push 2 tutorial? Thanks👍👍
Very helpful thanks, love Mad Zachs videos he's a great tutor
much respect to this dude.
This is seriously the best.
Nothing sounds as good as TRUE ANALOG!!!!!!! The Sub Phatty is awesome!!!!!
Meh... it sounds really decent. There are synths that cost half price of sub phatty and sounds the same or even with extra functionality. If you want moog that is moog, sub37 is the one. Mother 32 can join the game.
MIchael Wiggler can you name the other synths? I’m in the market for one right now. I also checked out the Korg Minilauge
Well no synth really sounds "the same" as a moog. The filter and warmth of moog is not something I've heard any other synth even come close to. I would probably say that moog mother 32 or perhaps a second hand moog of the same pricerange is enough though. More than that is not worth the price at all. I'd rather get for example a moog m32 PLUS several other synths than just one moog.
@@-RXB- *cough* Behringer Model D *cough*
Ayo just found out about your videos today. REALLY GOOD content ;)
I was especially looking for more intermediate/advanced techniques for ableton and your videos are full of useful stuff to get those creative juices flowin
Large ups mate
Thanks Zach.....Great tutorial and communication with your audience. Can you make a similar video using an Ableton Push por favor?
Amazing video man, big ups! Some real usefull knowledge, clear explanations and good vibes, thx!
Awesome video. Could you do a video or explain how to use multiple control devices in Ableton? I want to use a Tr-8, Apc40 MkII, Beatstep Pro, Mpk49, Akai Advance, and a Push. I can not figure out how to lock a device on a certain channel. I.e. dedicating the Advance to a strings channel and let the push move to channels as needed.
Damn example 2 sounds like early bassnectar and I'm here for that
He reminds me of this quiet kid back in high school who could dance really well, but nobody knew it because he didn't talk much. I felt like I watched that kid bust out dancing in the middle of class when this guy started twisting knobs. Didn't know he had it in 'im.
HI i'm new to ableton and I just got my microbrute which is really awesome and i got that set up.. Line out from microbrute to input 1 roland cakewalk soundcard and midi in from microbrute to midi out soundcard and usb to pc. When I set up my external instrument I can hear the microbrute but when i press play on the track with a midi loop i can't hear it.. I don't know if its clear enough to see the problem I just can t wait to produce with that baby.
Mad Zach is an ableton guru!
As always... absolutely amazing
This was very informative thanks I didn't know it was that easy to Intergrate a hardware synth and how much control you can have with these really powerful synth apps on iOS coming out I it's gonna get more fun creating random sounds in the future I want a hardware synth now lol
Great work Zach, got ideas now so thanks for the guide on hardware integration.
regards
gosh hardware equipment sounds soooo NICE...
This is good info. Thanks Mad Zach!
Thank you for explaining CC automation .I find that not all synth brands are friendly to cc implementation via DAW automation .
thanks those hardware synth tutorial are hard to find, plus I like the way you explain and I really loved your acid line ^^ great video !!
Mad Zach, you're the best man
Another great video MaDzaCh.... 'ThanX
great tutorial, ive always wanted to know how this is done, i cant wait to try this with my Roland Gaia :-) :-)
Great editing. Thanks for the info.
well done. many thanks for advice with automation.
i been trying for so long to hook up my rane 56 to ableton to record scratches (hardware wise).... can t beleive there NO videos on the topic. If one thing... one should make a video on how to do that im sure thats what most old school scratch djs would like to do first in ableton, BEING ABLE TO RECORD YOUR ANALOGUE TURNTABLE/MIXER IN ABLETON. I can do it in reaper through rewire/rearoute and virtual dj BUT THERE MUST be a way to do it in ableton too!! I have a midi turntable (numark ttx) with a timecoded vinyl, also i have a rane 56 ttm analogue mixer, with an audio 4 dj card with an rme audio interface. How to make all of that work in ableton to record scratches ? please help, thanks for the video, quite instructive! cheers
Thanks for the awesome tips.
thanks zach great job!! big help!! i def need to invest in an audio interface before i purchase the arturia microbrute!! any suggestions on something affordable?
Or: you could just go ahead, record your knob-twiddling in Ableton and when you're done, check in the MIDI Ctr list of that clip which parameters got automated. Saves you the hassle of finding the synth manual (who knows where they are anyway?).
Hey groove at 2:31
great tutorial bro, aspecial step 3, thanks!
yeah, yeah,yeah! many thanks you are great!!! more please!!!
U changed my life bro :D
We have just get an Alesis DM10 electronic drum kit. How is it possible to use the drumkit as a midi trigger in Ableton but with velocity? We can trigger the audio samples with no problem but no matter how strong we hit the drumkit parts, the sample volume is always the same. I would be pretty happy if someone knew it!
(The drumkit goes into an external sound card with audio output and directly into the computer by USB. Do we need to use the midi in and out slots too?)
Amazing video! I was wondering if there could be quality loss because of the audio output of the external hardware going through the audio interface. I am willing to use a Nord Drum 3P with my Komplete Audio 6. I guess it would always be possible to connect the Nord audio directly to the mixer without going through the interface. Of course that wouldnt allow me to mix the sound on ableton.
this saved my life ! thanks
yo you should do an updated 2017 version of this video with new techniques and cool sound design shit
Hey mate ! Thanks for the tutorial!
Can you explain to me how syncronize the drum loops with the synth?
Thanks
Very great tutorial Mad thanks for sharing :)
very informative. other ppl that make videos should learn how to inform viewers from this guy
plz record some lessons about arturia minilab mk2 with ableton !!plllz
the filter automation he is doing at 10:04, is the filter sweeping coming from the actual Moog filter or is it from Ableton Live?
Is him drawing it in in Ableton like that, the same as if he was physically turning the filter knob on the Moog? The filter itself is actually from the Moog? I suppose the drawing in just allows you to get way precise doing it visually instead of with your ears?
I didn't know about CC msgs, thanks
Such a great video. Subscribed.
also guys if you want to check out an Ableton project where I used all analog sounds from the Moog check out (and help out with...) my crowdsourced EP project here: bit.ly/LUErO6
Dude such an awesome helpful video! I've been looking into getting a hardware synth for old school sounds and how to use with Ableton. Do you know a way to integrate with the Ableton Push 2 controller to switch between Moog and Ableton Push 2 controller?
you really make nice tutorials! greets from greynotes
thanks mad zach
Can I do this with volca sample
Andrew Crump im about to get one , I too was wondering this, have you gotten any answers?
Curious about tip #3, wouldn't it be easier to add a midi out from the moog to the edirol and record the midi data from the cutoff? I just personally hate clicking envelopes, well, mice in general, and it would sound quite a bit more human.
Good tutorial. Thanks.
FANTASTIC THANKS
mad zack is the truth
very very useful! thanks G!
anyone know why he didnt have sync enabled? Im having issues with ableton tempo not changing the moog sound in external instrument. I hate the bpm thing on the moog cant get accurate .... Thanks
I think the external Hardware Setup isn't possible with an Ableton Live INTRO Version, which i only own. Any tricks, links, videos or Workarounds to get my combination work with external synths?
Great video man, can't wait to get home and set everything up!
Great sounds loving the moog. What drum sounds are you using?
Cool thanx for,share now i need a good synth, do you know a synth like this but cheaper? Looking for this kind of sounds.
+Soundboyfl fl The brand new 2016 Korg Minilogue
+TRIGUN checking thanx for the info :)
So informative, thank you sir
It's tough to reach for that MoPho when you got a Moog right beside it, isn't it? Oh, and stretch the hell out of those Moog samples. The Slim Phatty stretches out _real_ nice.
Thanks for the video! Is it possible to move away-from-keyboard by recording knob tweaks on the synth as automations in Ableton? (with a midi-cable connected on the out from the synth to the in on the i MIDI interface)
When I try to set my channel as you do at 1:30 they are all just sending feedback. Current setup in Live 9 with a Focusrite Saffire and a Virus B...
Hi, I am having problems doing this. I have a saffire pro which I use with ableton and ableton recognizes it in the audio preferences but not in the external instrument midi to. I can tempo trigger my hardware synth but cant get it to recieve midi notes. Thanks for any help
This is great, thanks!
I like the look of the arrangement. Where did you get that awesome skin for Ableton? I don't think that's in the Ableton 9 preferences. Details please!. I notice you don't answer any of the comments on this video post.What purpose does that serve? please get back to some of the people on this thread and their questions. thanks!
I see you asked this a year ago, so you've probably either found it or moved on-- but just in case (or if anyone else looks for it), the skin I'm using in Live 9 looks pretty much exactly like this. It's called "Monolake". I've downloaded some skins, but I think this one came with Live. Idk what the default settings are, but mine is set to-- Brightness- 120%, Color Intensity- 0%, and Color Hue- 0. Those might be the default numbers... I can't remember.
+kingcrawford thanks! I just tried it out now and looks good.
this is great stuff thank you!
For some reason I can't record anything from my Moog.
I have my MIDI cables plugged into the back of my MPK49 because my Apollo twin doesn't have MIDI on the back. But should that matter?
I can hear the Moog, and I can record the Moog using my MPK49 Keyboard, but not using my Moog's keyboard. And I can't record any knob turnings either unless I go into the clip and manually do it (which I don't like, because I want to do it myself sometimes).
Another weird and EXTREMELY annoying thing is, every time I put an effect on the track my Moog is on, the settings on my Moog change, and the sound changes. Every single time. I can take the effect off, put a new effect on, and it will change again.
I can't even EQ the sound because whenever I put an EQ on the channel, my Moog's settings change.
So basically... I have to get the sound I want, move to my MIDI keyboard and record what I want, or just click in the notes. Then if I want automation, I have to manually do it. Then I have to resample it, and put effects on the resampled version that I'm not able to tweak anymore... It's really time consuming and ridiculous.
+Devin Taylor (Fountainel) I read your post, I'm curious as to what the problem is.... have you found out? is it just defective?
+Richard Smith The setting changed randomly when I put effects on the channel cause the MIDI was plugged into my MPK49 for some reason, so I got an iConnectMIDI2.
I can record as well now.
yes quite simple. but is it better to record trough one or 2 inputs?
Great stuff, was really looking for something like thise
How do i add effects (compressor, filter, etc.) over my external instrument (korg ms20 mini)? everything is working fine except for that
is there any 3rd party plugin for an external instrument available?
Hi MZ, thanks for your Video. The way you show at 4:25 min. I get a lot of noise sounds if I play cutted loops from my recording. I work with the Korg minilogue, Ableton Live and Focusrite Scarlett 2i4. Do you have a tipp for me how I clear the noise sounds? I have read a lot of this toppic (zero point, etc.) but nothing helps.
how to make automatization in arragment view ?
Same with the Mio iConnectivity? It is a USB adapter going from computer. It has a MIDI IN (white) and MIDI OUT (black). I have the MIDI IN plugged into my MOOG, and the MIDI OUT plugged into the back of my interface, all while still connected via USB to Ableton. They synth audio is locked into Channel 2 on my interface. Am I on the right track here? I can't seem to get the MIDI to lock in with my hardware synth, but I'll have to try again. Perhaps my MIDI ports aren't setup correctly.
What automation can u change in the audio clip it’s self?
Hey Mad
This is a very useful video. Thanks a lot. But I got a little problem trying to control my moog slim phatty with ableton. As soon as the moog gets the midi-signal from Ableton, the internel control buttens of the moog don't work anymore. Means nothing happens when I move the control buttons on the moog. Any Idea what I need to change in the settings?
Thanks and all the best,
Tobi
Very usefull indeed. Cheers!
Hey guy I love your videos and I've learned so much from you so thank you for all of your help! I am attempting to send midi information from 3 different controllers and I wanted to know which audio interface you might suggest to do so. I will be using a midi keyboard for live keys, the Akai APC40 for live sampling, and my Moog Sub 37 all in alignment with effects and the masterclock in Ableton. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Wouldn't it be easier to run a midi cable from the output of the Moog? That way you can record the knob movement live (as well as automate via ableton)
No idea why he isn't running midi over usb which I do with mines. so much easier and less cables!
but you would need a midi interface.. here you just need audio interface and your computer
Mad Zach rocking the Freddy Kruger sweater lol