TEDxZurich - Jojo Mayer - Exploring the distance between 0 and 1
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- Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2011
- Jojo Mayer will give a brief synopsis on the emergence of rhythm culture and its relationship to technology and communication in the western world. In regards to this, he shares his thoughts on interacting with digital culture and cross examines the relevance of a human performance in the digital age.
Jojo Mayer, drummer
Growing up in the influence of a musical environment, Jojo picked up the drumsticks at age 2, and learned to play the drums autodidactic.
His pioneering work of reverse engineering programmed electronic music in real time with his band NERVE and his international bestselling drumming tutorial "secret weapons for the modern drummer" established him as one of the leading voices in the drumming world today. Besides his work as a musician, he has also contributed award winning product design for major drum companies. Jojo Mayer lives in New York City and his touring schedule continues to take him to all five continents.
Web: www.jojomayer.com -- Twitter: / jojomayernerve
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Jojo seriously deserves an honorary PhD in music for his research into every aspect of the trap kit. He has literally devoted years to thd study of every drum in the trap kit and has analyzed every method and technique of playing these drums. He has approached the art scientifically and has definately contributed to the advancement of percussion greatly. He is truly a master in the field of percussive arts.
fuck yeah!
+seekingtime It's too bad that he actually is somewhat against music in academia... to a degree. He actually did a year at a music school when he was younger in Europe, and he has said that if there was one thing he could change, it was to not have gone there.
I mean, he DOES think it is important for drummers to be well-educated about what it is they do. But he also has said that academia killed jazz music... I don't know really.
+seekingtime The other thing is that he did all this studying for essentially selfish reasons: to be able to perform better and express easier. That does NOT mean he is a selfish person though.
I think everything really is encapsulated in the epilogue of his Foot Technique DVD, and it makes sense from there.
+Michael Scott I can see what he means as far as how academic jazz has become these days. Jazz bands and music schools teach all music that is scripted and previously mapped out. He's always said to him that jazz is the spirit of improvisation. I have a rather large issue with academics reliance on sheeted music so I entirely agree with him. As far as selfish acts, yeah absolutely but selfishness is a really demonised concept. Everyone who pushes to be better is essentially being selfish. Not a bad thing, it's progression.
For the record I'm agreeing with you and offering further analysis :)
I did five years of music school at UNCP, and believe me... I had to use the charts some, just to make sure I was on the same page as everyone else, but I relied more than anything on what I heard and how it should sound more than anything. And when it came to me and being in small combos... Honestly, in my last year or two, I never used the Real Book.
I full admit I'm glad I went there because I did indeed learn a lot of what I needed to know, BUT having also learned, outside of the university, what music really IS helped me to analyze only when I needed to, and make music from the heart, spirit, and soul.
It is important to analyze what's happening, but more important to keep the big picture in mind. This is always what Jojo stresses when it comes to talking about technique, polyrhythms, what-have-you. He goes into this in the May 2015 Modern Drummer magazine: it's an amazing read for sure.
The coolest thing about this is he's providing world class drumming on a generic platform in front of people who might otherwise never go to a drum clinic, so their world just got ten times larger.
That is NOT world class. He's playing very basic patterns. Amateur at most.
@@gggg-ky9lk You would call THAT amateur drumming? I wonder how good you yourself are in the field of drumming.
@@stigafan Playing fast does not equal difficult or skilled.
He plays VERY basic grooves, just uses a lot of notes to over play them.
Really not that talented at all.
@@gggg-ky9lk He is playing fast but he's also staying pretty much perfectly on time and his technique is very nice. I really hope you grow up.
@@stigafan Playing in time and having good technique are not "world class" talents. I really hope you learn to read.
This speech made me cry, so damn beautiful for any musician to hear.
I was also very impressed when i heard "jungle" and "drums&bass" the first time in the early 90s... it seemed to be impossible to play that live on acoustic drums. But then i saw a concert with Apollo 440, and there were two drummers who really did that hard job. And now i am blown from Jojo Mayer, who can play it all at one drum set.
Remember seeing Red Snapper hammering out D&B live, stripped down trap kit and acoustic bass. Mmm.
DnB and jungle are relatively easy to bash out on a kit if you have the right technique and/or stamina! Preferably the former 😅
@@frasermilne8694 if you've got the first, you've probably already gained the 2nd, in the process
I just returned from a Jojo Mayer & Nerve concert.
Lucky duck
brilliant...most have no idea how complicated that second piece was to play and orchestrate. dude got deep...really deep in his speech. guy got sensual with those brushes...
Man... to give that speech, wich is complex and meaningful, without help of papers is really something. Respect.
The first time I saw or heard of JoJo was in 2005, and he blew my mind. 14 years later, I'm blown away once again. His brush solo was what really floored me in this video; that was amazing! Thank you so much for all of the great inspiration Jojo.
damn they got a damn good sound engineer! listen to that kick!
Aliz Matbatu probably triggered
@@casahome9622 Don't think so
He might just be one of the few drummers on Earth that just sound good however you mic them up. He's done loads of research with Sonor and Vic Firth to have kits that do the exact sounds he wants with no outboard processing at all. When he says "no digital" he literally means "I do everything acoustic".
Watched a kit rundown of JoJo in an Interview where he said it‘s triggered. He even has multible trigger sounds for different Nerve songs
@@casahome9622 drummers like JoJo don't use triggers. it's childish.
also, he spent about 20 minutes talking about how he likes acoustic instruments DURING THIS TALK.
He Bob Rossed that white canvas of a snare drum by the end, by golly.
"and we'll add a few happy little paradiddles right there"
Reading this In Arlington Virginia
Home of WETA and Bob Ross
More like Caravaggio in the execution to me, but yeah :)
One of my favorite drummers. This guy's a genius. reply if you agree
top 3 for sure
watch some BENNY GREB, and DAMIEN SCHMITT drum videos. GAVIN HARRISON is one of the better new drummers as well. (but all play like scientists. i want to see drummers with mad skill and creativity... who are PASSIONATE and furious!)
what if I reply that I disaggree, would that still count? (just a question, I agree)
This makes one hundert!
No question. Like Steve Smith a guru.
The Drum Philosopher.. great.
His mind is mind blowing like his drumming. Absolutely love his playing.
on previous interviewing videos he said that he liked to try new musical things, and that he's very inspired by jazz and drum and bass which I really respect. I also like such genres and to me he represents an icon of new drumming tendencies. I also respect the courage to stand in front of hundreds of people to present an unknown style that has many roads to discover yet.
To be fair, Jojo is far more than a Master Drummer and Musician, he is some kind of Scientist.
He's a badass... and I also want his shirt.
its 2019!!! and this video is still an enlightenment to a percussionist like me.
How old is this video?
@@hotlanta35 uploaded in 2011 so its at least 8 years old
December 2020 and I’m a bass player trying to understand percussion.
The man is a genius when it comes to music and percussion he is so musically smart and so on top of his craft he truly is one of the best drummers of his time
To this day, the only worthwhile ted talk in history
Jojo is such a genius,putting into words the indescribable process of making music...and letting the music speak for him with incredibly masterful solos...TOTAL RESPECT Jojo!!!
one of my all time favourite drummers ... pure genius!!
A Drummer's drummer. Jojo has technique to do what he does and MAKE it sound easy, only by working for 1000's of hours to accomplish it. one aspect of what he does with his left hand alone, can take months and months to master and play musically. He is ASTOUNDING. great speaker? Hell no. Worldwide innovator and master drummer - Hell yes. Love this guy.
He actually is a great speaker. Explains his points, connects his concepts and does it without stuttering or murmuring.
Jojo made a lot of sense to me. Maybe you aren't a good listener or comprehender.
*years, and still nowhere close to what his left can do
Right? His playing is incredible but most of his points are totally ludicrous imo
@@KiwazaCZ How come? Everything he said is an explanation of how he came to a conclusion and then explaining the conclusion he got to. When does he say something that's out of place?
One of my favorite drummers in the UNIVERSE! I have his two instructional videos. Total game changer!
This concept of 'distance between zero and one' fascinates me. It is exactly what separates humans/drummers vs machines. I think this gap widens as you introduce more elements in; emotion and mood, influences, inspiration and purpose. Dont want to get too deep now...
Love this, especially the flow / impro. section - resonated in Steven Kotler's book 'The Rise Of Superman'.
What a genius drummer!! So much to learn from him at many levels
One of my favorite Ted Talks. I come back and watch it a couple times a year. 🖤
I studied with a guy who was copping machine beats back in the mid 80s. We were playing Sheila E and others. It can be done, was done, and is being done astoundingly by Jojo. But a good drummer can learn how to do this. Don't be afraid to try.
Just when I had become complacent with music knowing it can all be replicated within a week of practice time tops I see this dude Bob Ross a drumkit and my mouth hangs open.. I haven't been amazed like this since I was 20 hearing Guthrie Govan for the first time. I got chills with the last drumkit groove. ..how? I just felt music like I used to. I didn't know I was missing that..
Awesome !
wow I have been a fan of jojo for a long time and this performance was one of the best. Truly brilliant and tastefull, that's all I can say.
A man with abundant talent and a true inspiration
between 0 and 1, he's talking about quantum drumming
Choosing to simultaneously hit the cowbell and not hit the cowbell at the same time
@@RobertTheBruce88 who knows if its even there, when he doesnt look at it?
@@archibaldikowski3646 Why does Schrodinger's Cowbell sounds like a weird experimental album.
laying down those qubeats.
he mentions orangutan at the beginning
WOW! Just found this having already seen quite a few JJ workshops on here over the years. The man is great anyway, but this improvisation from 12.50 is just awesome!! The control to play like that is unique & very few drummers can do this. Interesting thoughts too.
How can they not be moving their heads to that awesome groove at the beginning D :
Yeah , such a waste. I'm not sure how they get their audiences but this was wasted on a bunch of generic looking MF's.
TED Talks is awsome for having this guy he is so inspiring.
He's a great person with a great personality and is a great drummer. He is amazing at what he does.
Idk who TED is but, thanks for producing this JoJo video!
Technology, Entertainment, Design?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Best TED video comment ever🤣🤣🤣so underrated
@@tubehepa That flew right over your head, didn't it?
BEST DRUMMER ON THE PLANET - From a musical standpoint what he is doing there is phaenomenal!
Jojo recorded some songs in my sisters room which used to be a studio from my uncle when he lived in switzerland which is nice.
Wow great ! All the said things already exists in Indian classical music and Abhijat sangeet... of course with information and practice for many years.. best wishes!
Blows my mind how at ease he is speaking this hippie non-nonsense up there on that stage. So good. One of my favorite Ted performance. When he played Gene Krupa's beat in Sing, Sing. Sing, I was hooked. YES, GO ON.
I think Jojo found some magic in the space between 0 and 1. Brilliant!
I might be high as shit right now, but I'm seeing Jojo Mayer speak with Christopher Walken's voice.
lmfao!!!
I'm high too. Now Christopher Walken is stuck!
BOOM! JUST realized that's what it is. I love walken's voice so it works. hahahaha
So glad it's not just me! "You see this drum stick? I wore this drum stick up my ass for 5 years." HAHA
Alex Canion Now I can't unhear it!
I've been playing drums a long time. My first 'drum video' was the *_HQ Stereo VHS_* of Terry Bozzio's "Melodic Drumming And The Ostinato". I probably have over 50 instructional videos, and JoJo's DVD "Secret Weapons For The Modern Drummer" is absolutely in my top 5 favorites. It's well worth the purchase if you like drum DVD's!!! I love seeing him on the Ted Talk. Master drummer in every sense of the word.
Thoughts on Mike mangini ?!
I'd take that a step further that when in that intuitive state of improvisation you are channeling through your higher consciousness which is in complete connection to the universe, time, space, dimension.. basically in the realms of the fabricators and shapers of existence... this state of being in the flow is not just in music but exists in all creative forms, art, literature, sculpture, design etc.. and is the universe or Gods expressing itself through us as extensions of itself.
Just clearly amazing!!!
The thought that drums stretch back until the beginning of existence really resonates with me, it’s an idea that I’ve clung to for a number of years, there was a nod to it in a foo fighters track which gets me excited every time I hear the lyric. Great to hear this idea explained in such good words
Which foo track are you referring to with that drum reference? :D
He's the lighthouse bringing the next generation to shore.
Genius, lives for his music.
Can't judge a book by its cover! Everytime I hear this guy speak I am blown away by his knowledge and intelect. Not to mention how advanced and complicated his playing is. As a fellow percussionist you can appreciate how complex his playing can be! I don't think this audience gets it...lol
GOOD STUFF. HE IS UP THEIR WITH SOME OF THE BEST. I THINK.
I've enjoyed snare in the past.. but I think I've just experienced a snaregasm.. The chills.. Wow
Jojo is a beast! digital algorithms are advancing and trying to mimic the randomness/sloppiness/uncertain nature of organic rhythm, it gets very close and both organic and digital perfect timing have their places.
The last thing is absolutely magical😀
I loved this talk. Getting away from the academically speach to embrace a spiritual/musical conversation. The idea of the auto changing and the humanization of the tecnology that attacks all the aspects of our humanity. The tecnology that takes away the human part of one thing that´s always was only human: The music. Jojo gat notice of this and fight the machine back. He takes back the music from the machine in his own territory: The electronic music. Only a genius can do such a thing.
Sign of a great musician!
About 18 years ago I saw a clip of a jojo mayer clinic and I’m quite embarrassed to say that I was more focused on the fact that he could do one handed rolls than anything phraseological that he was doing. Only as my tastes have evolved has the magnitude of my folly become clear 🙂
Fascinating.
Luv jojo! He is a genius at his craft.
Brilliant ! Lived in Bern in the mid 90's worked with Ben Fay his jamming partner whose name I can't remember played drum N bass on a kit I was amazed! It must be in the Swiss blood !!!
Love the countdown next to the monitor in front of him!
what an inspiration!
I can watch and listen to him all day
After seeing a commercial for cymbals by this man, sorry, LEGEND, I went on a search for more music by him. Legend is a true understatement, I found out.
This Ted Talk was great and Jojo is a super accomplished drummer - neat idea but it STILL was analog with NO 1's and 0's in between beats but we are HEARING it THROUGH 1's and 0's on RUclips : ) So I guess mission accomplished : )
His speech is beautiful
This guy has 5 brains... one per each body extremity and the mind central controller that gave us that piece of wisdom... Congrats Jojo Mayer, you're AWESOME
This is so good.
This is the guy. Just brilliant.
Seeing him live in Berlin was a milestone in my musical education.
It's amazing how JoJo is here
For sure one of the best drummers of all times !
The beat at the beginning is SICK!!!
He has such a unique playing style.
he is talking about Sing, Sing Sing (with a swing)
as performed by Benny Goodman (Gene Krupa on drums)
enjoy :)
Thank you ive literally been trying to find this song forever
I love this guy!
To me his brush work highlights his ability to coalesce his concept of the distance between 1 and 0.
That moment when you feel ashamed and happy at the same time. Ashamed because you realized that you were so wrong thinking you have a good knowledge of those musical genius and there seem to be nothing really new. Happy because you realized that there are still genius to discover. I would love to see him live with squarepusher playing the Rustic Raver album.
I can imagine that even if AI starts to manage that 'between 0 and 1' thing, he is ready to competewith something new 'out of this world' 'spiritual' whatever you wanna call it.
The emotion is in the motion, interoception, and micro-discrepancies
Wow what a talent this guy is taking 170bpm to a whole new level. RESPECT
@machib77 the title refers to the fact that he explains there is a point when you are thinking quickly which allows you to improvise on the fly at such a quick rate that decisions which could have been interpreted as wrong were rather quite right thanks to the improvisation. Looking back over the decisions the are sort of suspended in the "air" between 1 (on=right) and 0(off=wrong). Very good performance Jojo. It reminded me of what i enjoy most about drumming & general improv. Thanks!
that bit with the brushes was truly inventive
12:50 is so amazing. unbelievable skills....
I would actually listen to asmr of the broomsticks on the snare. That is a fantastic sound.
I've been around a while, and I've never heard brushes on snare pulsing out intricate rhythms like that. That sounded bonafide *innovative* , to me.
NOW I understand better where Jojo is coming from, and it all makes sense on a different level for me, now. I knew he was going for machine-like precision in his time divisions, but now I get it - Jojo plays with the precision of a rhythm machine BUT with a rhythmical "ear" that a digital device simply can't synthesize. A rhythm machine can't be creative- it just does what it's set to do. Jojo, of course, understands *music* and therefore chooses patterns and sequences that are musical and enjoyable to the huma eat. He just happens to be a genius in that way.
The legendary jojo mayer!
TEDx's excellent initiative to be there this "huge" drummer
philosophy, music....this guy is very knowledgable
Amazing!
Easily the best TED Talk ever ?
btw- jojo is one of the most genius drummers of all time! friendly reminder!
Effing genius.
This is similar to the idea of relational programming, which is like an mechanized improvisation. Traditional imperative programming is basically giving a machine a list of instructions to achieve an outcome. Relational programming gives a machine a desired outcome and it figures out how to get there. I.e. 2 + 2=? as opposed to ? + ? = 4. By relational programming I am referring to things like miniKanren.
incredible talent
Incredible.
OMG Wow'ed. As a fan of electronic music and wanna-b artist someday... Thank you for the perfect perspective on direction. "Good Bye 303" "Hello Hexi-Electro-Organic"
you are so good, thank you, I wish i could play the drums as well..
The only time in history the Ted audience did not feel as if they were the speakers superior.
18:31 I thought he was gonna start playing Birdland lol
He is Swiss... That is just epic in this context. Cool dude, fantastick musician (audio scientist)
Brilliant!