I can't believe Snax is still pro, he was my favourite player when I first got into CS a decade ago. His legendary sneaky beaky like play is forever engraved into my memory as what I aspired to be in CS.
My bit of analysis on G2's T side. Snax's mid round calling, as well as his read of his opponent was put on full display during their T-Side on mirage. He understands that Spirit play an aggressive mid stance, with their default being Donkinator9000 playing anti-flash/watching underpass, Zontix playing short side watching his mid cross and Shiro on fast rotate to snipers or sight of top con, with slight variations of Donk playing from top con-bottom con. You highlighted at 4:24 how they are super prepared for the Donk swing into lowers off a teammates flash which really emphasizes the read that G2 have on Spirit's mid hold. A few examples are shown in this video on the default call that G2 have to start the round, with it being Snax taking info/early aggression towards middle, and Niko lurking behind it whilst the others default towards the strat site. In that round at 4:24 Niko plays off the lurk smoke created by the molly extinguish as well as the CT smoke towards top middle. Now in this round, its clear that a B default was called at the start of the round. Snax puts pressure on mid, gets info, niko lurks, rest default B. Niko gets a great timing on Donk which prompts the team out of underpass and pressure to mid. Snax's mid round calling is shown here, where he calls pressure onto the snipers player (which fell off the position). They know that Zontix fell back onto short, which puts at least 1 player onto B, and can assume that the B anchor of Magixx would still be there as well. This gives G2 a great advantage on map control. The round plays out, they find Zontix playing from short still which confirms Snax made the right call to redirect to an A push the round plays out and its a close round. In my opinion, all of the correct calls were made there. Another great example of Snax's great calling is in the round at 9:40. Another B default, Snax takes mid agro/pressure, gets the info, falls (expected) - Donk is up mid, Zontix is short, chopper flashed from A - all confirmed. Niko has an exceptional individual performance knowing the timings for his mid lurk (same timing on the lurk every round, same clear on the lurk every round) and catches Donk as hes jumping up (I assume what he was expecting as he got the kill). Back to a 4v4. Hunter slips past Shiro, gets the kill on the short player, traded by Shiro. Now they can confirm that Shiro is playing from A in a very aggressive position towards connector. Snax's mid round call I really like here. As you highlighted, Spirit play a very passive A site. This is read by Snax, as he calls for the team to pivot towards A off the B default (which was correct in the prior round in the previous paragraph). He knows its very likely they are playing a stacked B site, with a more passive A hold. They confirm this as you mention by the lack of jump spot from van, so they pressure the last known position of the awper with numbers and the round plays out as it does. I really liked the calling from Snax and I look forward to seeing how the future turns out.
i think a lot of this is preparation. i've been noticing it in my own reviews that spirit, not just donk, has a lot of STRONG tendencies that they stick to. kind of like decision trees that feel almost set in stone sometimes. I'm expecting a lot of teams to begin to counter them and they'll have to do some adjusting. G2 was def super prepared though and the calling all series felt like snax was in chopper's head straight up
@@mranderson3441team player. He’s always in the right place for his teammates, never backs down from trade kills, also down to entry if needed, he’s a great team player
Hype on new g2 is like hype on spirit and donk. They won few random games and 1 not important tournamenta everyone said they gonna dominate cs world and what is spirit doing since katowice? Loosing everything even their own tour de putin in serbia.
I've been out of CS for years, what happend to him? Why would he be owned an apology? Sneaky beaky Snax was my favourite player back in the good old days on Virtus Pro - I dreamed of being as stealthy as him. I can't believe he's still around ten whole years later & playing this well, what a blast from the past
All I gotta say is: Malbs is the real deal. I thought it was a good signing already, but man, especially on the last map, he was clean as an anchor. Such a good player, such a good pick-up, totally deserved, imo.
I’ve been liking the late round calling out of the new G2 a LOT. imo that was one of the distinguishing factors at Dallas that hooxi’s calling never really had down
The reason why I think M0nesy is better than Donk is because M0nesy has a ability to stay calm. If you catch Donk off timing few times or something else makes him mad, he plays like garbage. If something like that happens to M0nesy, he often calms down very fast and resets in the next round. If Donk could get hold of his nervs I would gladly put him above M0nesy. Both players play different role so you can't really compare everything the same, but objectively if you put these players in some number of "test" situations I think M0nesy wins more of them. Sometimes brain>aim. I would like to see a video with your opinion on M0nesy vs Donk 😁
easy for monesy to calm down when he has an awp in his hands and can hold the same angle for 1 minute into the round. donk has to get a double entry in the mean time.
yeah my opinion boils down to (and i'll say this in the video) "m0nesy is the 2nd coming of kennyS which is insane, but Donk is the first coming of a player that can entry and still be the highest rated player in the world. even with the best systems and top tier players (ex: astralis with dupreeh who was top 20 pre-astralis) this has never even come close to happening before." to me, i 100% see why people enjoy m0nesy but it's comparing the most sought after role in the game to the least. I'd have to see m0nesy dragging niko across the finish line while niko had bad games (basically G2 seem to lose like 70% of their games when niko plays poorly) more often to put him above donk given donk's skill and role. esp since in gun rounds (where AWPers typically shine, and riflers struggle to find consistency) you can see donk with a 0.97 k/r on CT (the only rifler in the top 8 players) and 0.88 on T while going for 40% of entries (the only player above him is yekindar who can't even break 0.5 k/r)
Malbs played really well! I'm sure he can become a top 5 player this year. lots of potential, he should start aiming as low as zont1x to grow his skillset
i'll continue doing a bit of both. if you see a video under 30min and it's not just about 1 half of a game then you can assume it's this sort of format
you should have seen the ancient game. you really notice there how organised and well thought they exac and take and fake the spots. and finally g2 stopped rushing into things but rather take their time to organize. glad to see, finally
when i saw this roster be completed, as a pole i was proud, but at the same time sad for hooxi, but then with the firepower they have i thought they would be either a superteam or a miserable fail and so far the team's not proven yet, but not all teams have 3 headshot machines like malbs, niko, monesy + 2 very good headshoters still snax and hunter, setup the strats well and everything will be perfect with this roster, a superteam, the synergy with snax being an igl and taz the coach is also masterclass, definitely more synergy there and understanding, so if this plays out well in the long run, then this will be crazy
hooxi was always going to be a temporary IGL pick to beat some sense and discipline into the players, (mostly niko) and he overperformed individually compared to expectations so they kept him a bit longer. now snax seems like an igl who actually does have tier 1 level individually and they got rid of tier 2 hero nexa who they shouldnt have signed in the first place. Now -niko and +someone with teamwork and they can be a real team
@@TheSuperappelflap did you see how niko countered donk? there wouldn't have been a conversation about beating ts without nikos aim, like i said 3 headshot straight up machines in a team js crazy and for this lineup necessary
@@ziemniak0killl251 you need players with good aim and good teamwork. niko has only ever been 1 of those 2 things and its going to hold back any team he is in.
When Donk was asked about pressure, he seemed oblivious to it. Sometimes I fear people implanted the idea of pressure into his head and its affecting him.
Reasons why I think m0nesy is the best player rn contrary to popular belief and HYPE that donk is no. 1: -M0nesy has been consistent (he's been the best player in his junior years; he was top 10 player in tier 1 csgo; he was top 10 awper in csgo) -M0nesy rn is the best awper in the world and top 5-10 rifler in cs2. -He carried and is still carrying g2 and niko from csgo to cs2. -His first game in 2022 csgo, he made prime vp w/ yekindar look weak. Donk: -Donk went to team spirit in late csgo era (i remember watching them play vertigo against monte, they lost the whole match against them) -Donk only became VERY good in cs2 while m0nesy has already been very good even before from csgo to cs2. -Donk only still has 5-7 noticeable BIG tournaments. They lost 3 against faze, vitality, and now g2. Overall im not ready yet to acknowledge donk as the definitive best in the game when clearly we still have m0nesy. And s1mple isn't even showing up yet as an awper in a team in cs2. The last time s1mple was on the scene he was clashing head against m0nesy with the awp duel.
Just some terrible macro mistakes out of Spirit. Both Magixx and Zont1x giving away free kills to their opponents in a 5v3 situation in the pistol round, instead of just waiting for their teammates and retaking together, is absolutely inexcusable, I have no idea what they were thinking. After that pistol round G2 just snowballed them.
They were thinking they could take aim duels, and they should be able to get one or two headshots before G2 make it into site, they just missed and the glock headshots didnt. If you go giving up bombsites completely in 5v3 because youre scared of the enemy, you arent going to win games. They should have played further back though, from window and door instead of back site.
@@TheSuperappelflap That is the right thing to do in a 5 v 3. Taking 50/50 one on one aim duels is not, especially at a close distance where glocks are favoured. It might have been OK if the enemy had not been aware of their presence, but both teams saw each other when the terrorists were running through the apartments.
9:25 thats my comment, and yeah even not too many matches but still now you have 6 matches, one with g2 playing with taz and this last match with new g2 roaster, and i think that niko really beat them on all these matches
..does find one, let's not leave him out of this. The Big Apple and snax is hungry. He's got one kill already on the USP. Low HP as well on Guardian and Flamie. He's trying to bait them out, trying to get them into one on one's as he dances back and forth between the box... What a shot on s1mple... OH GUARDIAN, BYE BYE! ... and it's onto Flamie... he's tapped him, Flamie's got a big... Noooooo! What in god's name is that from snax?! Unbelievable!
@@hollowknightforssbu5628 i have nightmares of comments on my main channel when it was smaller holy fuck the things people would argue about when the game was just a bit less figured out
gonna start labeling these in the pinned comment
Spirit vs G2 ESWC 2024 Quarter final (LAN) map 1
8.1/10
You would have rated this 10/10 if snax aimed lower than zontix
yall know this is just his opinion, right?
@@BonesBonesBonesBones1Are you normally the vibe killer?
I can't believe Snax is still pro, he was my favourite player when I first got into CS a decade ago. His legendary sneaky beaky like play is forever engraved into my memory as what I aspired to be in CS.
Hmmmmm it was probably zontix aiming low as usual 😭
I’m surprised he didnt compare the other 9 players side by side to see who aims lower
Cring joke
@@nhanngo3613 aim low
@@nhanngo3613 aim low
Rare headshots (in the head) seen
Why did’t you compare the other 9 players to Zont1x and sees who aims lower??????? This channel fell off
Lol good one
Where is this joke from?
Maybe he could just compare donk to monesy instead of telling us that it is a no competition
@@prokrastynacya watch his 56 hour long video whining about Zont1x’s low aim
@@dusandobranic2746 saw it. It’s as clear as day for him that Donk is better.
Basically it all comes to whoever can aim lower and hit those toenail shots
My bit of analysis on G2's T side.
Snax's mid round calling, as well as his read of his opponent was put on full display during their T-Side on mirage. He understands that Spirit play an aggressive mid stance, with their default being Donkinator9000 playing anti-flash/watching underpass, Zontix playing short side watching his mid cross and Shiro on fast rotate to snipers or sight of top con, with slight variations of Donk playing from top con-bottom con. You highlighted at 4:24 how they are super prepared for the Donk swing into lowers off a teammates flash which really emphasizes the read that G2 have on Spirit's mid hold.
A few examples are shown in this video on the default call that G2 have to start the round, with it being Snax taking info/early aggression towards middle, and Niko lurking behind it whilst the others default towards the strat site. In that round at 4:24 Niko plays off the lurk smoke created by the molly extinguish as well as the CT smoke towards top middle. Now in this round, its clear that a B default was called at the start of the round. Snax puts pressure on mid, gets info, niko lurks, rest default B. Niko gets a great timing on Donk which prompts the team out of underpass and pressure to mid. Snax's mid round calling is shown here, where he calls pressure onto the snipers player (which fell off the position). They know that Zontix fell back onto short, which puts at least 1 player onto B, and can assume that the B anchor of Magixx would still be there as well. This gives G2 a great advantage on map control.
The round plays out, they find Zontix playing from short still which confirms Snax made the right call to redirect to an A push the round plays out and its a close round. In my opinion, all of the correct calls were made there.
Another great example of Snax's great calling is in the round at 9:40. Another B default, Snax takes mid agro/pressure, gets the info, falls (expected) - Donk is up mid, Zontix is short, chopper flashed from A - all confirmed. Niko has an exceptional individual performance knowing the timings for his mid lurk (same timing on the lurk every round, same clear on the lurk every round) and catches Donk as hes jumping up (I assume what he was expecting as he got the kill). Back to a 4v4. Hunter slips past Shiro, gets the kill on the short player, traded by Shiro. Now they can confirm that Shiro is playing from A in a very aggressive position towards connector. Snax's mid round call I really like here. As you highlighted, Spirit play a very passive A site. This is read by Snax, as he calls for the team to pivot towards A off the B default (which was correct in the prior round in the previous paragraph). He knows its very likely they are playing a stacked B site, with a more passive A hold. They confirm this as you mention by the lack of jump spot from van, so they pressure the last known position of the awper with numbers and the round plays out as it does.
I really liked the calling from Snax and I look forward to seeing how the future turns out.
great deduction at round 10. do you think hooxi would commit to b?
just put my fries in the bag bro
@@arttu5759 fair enough, ketchup with that one?
@@Stephent-lb3uf No, but I believe that he would’ve made the incorrect call with the positioning of the pivot.
i think a lot of this is preparation. i've been noticing it in my own reviews that spirit, not just donk, has a lot of STRONG tendencies that they stick to. kind of like decision trees that feel almost set in stone sometimes. I'm expecting a lot of teams to begin to counter them and they'll have to do some adjusting. G2 was def super prepared though and the calling all series felt like snax was in chopper's head straight up
Malbs is so good dude. His mechanics are outstanding.
100%. I saw a few M80 games and he was just another league. Definetly world class top 5 team player.
Massive upgrade from nexa they actually have a real chance at winning now
@@mranderson3441read his comment again🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@mranderson3441team player. He’s always in the right place for his teammates, never backs down from trade kills, also down to entry if needed, he’s a great team player
@@mranderson3441he means a player suitable for a top 5 team, so top 25 player
Told you so. If Snax keeps this up, the whole community owes him a BIG OLE apology.
Press x to doubt
Just new team energy
@@antonhelsgaun and spirit got old team energy? xD better team at that day won thats it
Hype on new g2 is like hype on spirit and donk. They won few random games and 1 not important tournamenta everyone said they gonna dominate cs world and what is spirit doing since katowice? Loosing everything even their own tour de putin in serbia.
I've been out of CS for years, what happend to him? Why would he be owned an apology? Sneaky beaky Snax was my favourite player back in the good old days on Virtus Pro - I dreamed of being as stealthy as him. I can't believe he's still around ten whole years later & playing this well, what a blast from the past
i was probably one of two people who thought snax was a good move, i’m struggling as a virtus plow lover and a g2 hater
As a lifelong VP lover, I'm happy there's finally a team that I want to support
Same😭😭 my polish bias and love for the team and player blinds me to any negative stuff said by pundits😭😭
All I gotta say is: Malbs is the real deal. I thought it was a good signing already, but man, especially on the last map, he was clean as an anchor. Such a good player, such a good pick-up, totally deserved, imo.
I’ve been liking the late round calling out of the new G2 a LOT. imo that was one of the distinguishing factors at Dallas that hooxi’s calling never really had down
as the round likely goes on the less likely hooxi is to call because he's always dead
@@Stephent-lb3uf when igls are dead, they have more info to call with, so no.
The reason why I think M0nesy is better than Donk is because M0nesy has a ability to stay calm. If you catch Donk off timing few times or something else makes him mad, he plays like garbage. If something like that happens to M0nesy, he often calms down very fast and resets in the next round. If Donk could get hold of his nervs I would gladly put him above M0nesy. Both players play different role so you can't really compare everything the same, but objectively if you put these players in some number of "test" situations I think M0nesy wins more of them. Sometimes brain>aim. I would like to see a video with your opinion on M0nesy vs Donk 😁
easy for monesy to calm down when he has an awp in his hands and can hold the same angle for 1 minute into the round. donk has to get a double entry in the mean time.
yeah my opinion boils down to (and i'll say this in the video) "m0nesy is the 2nd coming of kennyS which is insane, but Donk is the first coming of a player that can entry and still be the highest rated player in the world. even with the best systems and top tier players (ex: astralis with dupreeh who was top 20 pre-astralis) this has never even come close to happening before."
to me, i 100% see why people enjoy m0nesy but it's comparing the most sought after role in the game to the least. I'd have to see m0nesy dragging niko across the finish line while niko had bad games (basically G2 seem to lose like 70% of their games when niko plays poorly) more often to put him above donk given donk's skill and role. esp since in gun rounds (where AWPers typically shine, and riflers struggle to find consistency) you can see donk with a 0.97 k/r on CT (the only rifler in the top 8 players) and 0.88 on T while going for 40% of entries (the only player above him is yekindar who can't even break 0.5 k/r)
Bro the upgrade of nexa to malbs is such a breathe of fresh air. Like whenever nexa would stupidly die whilst fumbling util it actially made me mad
Hey Voo!! Great vid, just one suggestion.. for the next one can you mention how Zontix from Spirit aims low compared to other pros? Thanks!
i'm waiting for these comments to stop being every comment on every video and then i'll do "every zont1x headshot from [event]"
@@itsvoo gonna somehow make a shorter video than the Mongolz eco round
@@itsvooGood way to make sure you never have to make that video + engagement farming. Galaxy brain stuff
@@itsvoo cute, you think we're ever going to stop. i woke up this morning knowing there would be a malbs video up to post that comment on.
@sleepyposting it's going to be about as long as Karrigans frag movie from the last map of the major grand final
Phenomenal series. Actually excited to see how snax and malbs age on g2
Malbs played really well! I'm sure he can become a top 5 player this year. lots of potential, he should start aiming as low as zont1x to grow his skillset
Something about zontix aiming low
12:22 I like the commentary on the donk anti flash at A ramp a lot! I would appreciate if you keep adding those caveats!
it's because donk didn't aim low enough
I kinda got sad when I realized it’s only a 20 min video, is there no 10 min rant before I start watching 😢
i'll continue doing a bit of both. if you see a video under 30min and it's not just about 1 half of a game then you can assume it's this sort of format
you should have seen the ancient game. you really notice there how organised and well thought they exac and take and fake the spots. and finally g2 stopped rushing into things but rather take their time to organize. glad to see, finally
absolutely love this channel, i think alot of people would love this content you should probably promote it more on main
Maybe an odd off factor might e Zontix is aiming a tad bit low
when i saw this roster be completed, as a pole i was proud, but at the same time sad for hooxi, but then with the firepower they have i thought they would be either a superteam or a miserable fail and so far the team's not proven yet, but not all teams have 3 headshot machines like malbs, niko, monesy + 2 very good headshoters still snax and hunter, setup the strats well and everything will be perfect with this roster, a superteam, the synergy with snax being an igl and taz the coach is also masterclass, definitely more synergy there and understanding, so if this plays out well in the long run, then this will be crazy
i think they could've done better if they aimed lower
hooxi was always going to be a temporary IGL pick to beat some sense and discipline into the players, (mostly niko) and he overperformed individually compared to expectations so they kept him a bit longer. now snax seems like an igl who actually does have tier 1 level individually and they got rid of tier 2 hero nexa who they shouldnt have signed in the first place.
Now -niko and +someone with teamwork and they can be a real team
@@rapidmark2700 good point, like chopper or zontix
@@TheSuperappelflap did you see how niko countered donk? there wouldn't have been a conversation about beating ts without nikos aim, like i said 3 headshot straight up machines in a team js crazy and for this lineup necessary
@@ziemniak0killl251 you need players with good aim and good teamwork. niko has only ever been 1 of those 2 things and its going to hold back any team he is in.
how did you get so good at yapping? no hate good vids just wondering
he practices one hour daily in front of the mirror, records it, and then listens to himself talk
play and analyze CS for 20 years and 30k+ hours and then you'll just love talking about it too
When Donk was asked about pressure, he seemed oblivious to it. Sometimes I fear people implanted the idea of pressure into his head and its affecting him.
Malbs aim a bit higher...
Plz do the ancient game
pointing out zont1x hit a headshot made me giggle
the way how g2 outplayed donk is by playing midnight, donk normally sleeps at that time xD
had to pause the video to catch a breath myself
Reasons why I think m0nesy is the best player rn contrary to popular belief and HYPE that donk is no. 1:
-M0nesy has been consistent (he's been the best player in his junior years; he was top 10 player in tier 1 csgo; he was top 10 awper in csgo)
-M0nesy rn is the best awper in the world and top 5-10 rifler in cs2.
-He carried and is still carrying g2 and niko from csgo to cs2.
-His first game in 2022 csgo, he made prime vp w/ yekindar look weak.
Donk:
-Donk went to team spirit in late csgo era (i remember watching them play vertigo against monte, they lost the whole match against them)
-Donk only became VERY good in cs2 while m0nesy has already been very good even before from csgo to cs2.
-Donk only still has 5-7 noticeable BIG tournaments. They lost 3 against faze, vitality, and now g2.
Overall im not ready yet to acknowledge donk as the definitive best in the game when clearly we still have m0nesy. And s1mple isn't even showing up yet as an awper in a team in cs2. The last time s1mple was on the scene he was clashing head against m0nesy with the awp duel.
Hm. I wonder if Hawka may have been on to something when he said that Snax's loose calling was perfect for this team.
see what not aiming for the kneecaps gets you?
Just some terrible macro mistakes out of Spirit. Both Magixx and Zont1x giving away free kills to their opponents in a 5v3 situation in the pistol round, instead of just waiting for their teammates and retaking together, is absolutely inexcusable, I have no idea what they were thinking. After that pistol round G2 just snowballed them.
They were thinking they could take aim duels, and they should be able to get one or two headshots before G2 make it into site, they just missed and the glock headshots didnt.
If you go giving up bombsites completely in 5v3 because youre scared of the enemy, you arent going to win games.
They should have played further back though, from window and door instead of back site.
@@TheSuperappelflap That is the right thing to do in a 5 v 3. Taking 50/50 one on one aim duels is not, especially at a close distance where glocks are favoured. It might have been OK if the enemy had not been aware of their presence, but both teams saw each other when the terrorists were running through the apartments.
spirit was overconfident and g2 has never had this much firepower
i dont put like on the video i put like on the comments that say "do zontix aim lower than other pros?". you can thank me voo
I hope you survive the zont1x jokes
zontix was aiming for feet all game
9:25 thats my comment, and yeah even not too many matches but still now you have 6 matches, one with g2 playing with taz and this last match with new g2 roaster, and i think that niko really beat them on all these matches
it took less than a year to counter Donk
..does find one, let's not leave him out of this. The Big Apple and snax is hungry. He's got one kill already on the USP. Low HP as well on Guardian and Flamie. He's trying to bait them out, trying to get them into one on one's as he dances back and forth between the box... What a shot on s1mple... OH GUARDIAN, BYE BYE! ... and it's onto Flamie... he's tapped him, Flamie's got a big... Noooooo! What in god's name is that from snax?! Unbelievable!
I feel like even mentioning nexa is a fucking crime lmao
donk should've been aiming low like zontix
Maybe they got it if they aimed a little big higher (specially zontix)
malbs aimed low as well
Funniest part for me is monesy is pretty good guys he is ok😂
This m0NESY guy seems quite alright. He should think about going pro
yes we know zon hit the headshot
11:54 chill
i think snax aims lower than hooxi
defo aims lower but thats the strat
Snax is hungry !!
vid could do without the spoilers :/
Malbs is a huge pick! 1000% Far Better than Nexa!
It's insane how clueless these youtubers come off, like G2 won't work, we know better always...and then you see this G2.
Definitely zontix aiming low fault
nuke was much better, one of the best games ever played
and you were saying snax is a bad choice :p, ofcourse time will tell but all the community sayin shit about snax beacuse yes was so not on place
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Voo, Niko obviously aims too low
snax on nuke
G2 ganged up on donk😂
why does this look like an avarage matchmaking game xD
every G2 game looks like that
Nice
blabalabk zontix aim low
I think they outplayed them by aiming lower
What’s the aim low thing about lol ? Sounds funny to see all of these even if I have no idea what this is about lol
@2:14 A1 at that range is not advantageous. you'd need like 2-3 headshots to get the kill.
im not talking about the gun and idk what servers you're playing if you need 3 headshots to kill someone with an m4 ever
@@itsvoopeople just really want to prove you wrong huh 😭
bad takes kekw. wdym 2 3 hs to get the kill. donk just whiffed the spray
@@hollowknightforssbu5628 i have nightmares of comments on my main channel when it was smaller holy fuck the things people would argue about when the game was just a bit less figured out
Now all we talk about is how low someone aims. It ain't but better but it's still something@@itsvoo
Massive L