The feud between Henry Ford and the Dodge brothers is not well-known, but it's an amazing story. Enjoy this mini-documentary I made on this piece of history. And please subscribe to the channel for more videos. (Turn on the bell icon to be notified of new video releases) Thanks for watching
The Dodge Brothers were both early investors in the Ford motor Company, John was a vice president. They were among the financiers who financed Henry Ford to get him started. The Dodge Brothers original investment was $10,000. People don't understand that the Dodge boys were both millionaires by the time they financed Ford.
That is BS, Henry did not hate the Dodge Brothers, and they didn't hate Henry. If you actually study this, and research, it shows Henry was one of the few people the Dodge brothers actually trusted to work with. Face it they were all Irishmen, nuf said.
Good synopsis, but two points: 1) Ford's failed 2nd car company went on to become Lincoln (not Cadillac), and led to him feuding with its' founder, Henry Leland (who also founded Cadillac). Another great story for another time. 2) You skipped over the years of corporate mismanagement after the Brothers died, which led to the owners needing Chrysler to buy the company.
You have this a little mixed up. The bankers backing Ford brought in Henry Leland to liquidate Ford's assets. Leland talked the bankers into letting him buy the assets and build cars based on the Ford design. The car and company was renamed Cadillac. Eventually Leland sold Cadillac to William C. Durant who used it, Buick, Oldsmobile and Oakland to establish General Motors. Durant eventually forced Leland out and he subsequently founded Lincoln. By 1922 Lincoln had become insolvent and was put up for sale by Leland's investors. Henry Ford, always one to hold a grudge, was the only bidder, very low at that, and acquired Lincoln. So Henry Ford being who he was, shortly after fired both Henry Leland and his son, Wilfred, who was Lincoln's chief engineer. The early US auto industry was a regular rivalry of personalities as well as a competition for auto sales.
you are incorrect - his failed company DID become Cadillac - he bought Lincoln later because Edsel loved luxury cars. didn't know about the corporate mismanagement at Dodge - so thanks for that history.
@@rockandroll4689 Ford had 2 failed car companies. The first one was being liquidated when Henry Leland took it over and created Cadillac. Later Leland left Cadillac to found Lincoln to make Liberty engines for the war effort. Later Ford (still holding a grudge) acquired Lincoln when it became insolvent mostly out of spite (He offered the only bid at 5 mil, the judge wouldn't even accept it ) and ended up ousting Leland.
1969 was the best year ever. Dodge built they Mighty Daytona; Ford built the mighty Talledega. The Talledega won at Daytona; and the Daytone won at Talledega! Can’t get any better than that!
How could the Dodge brothers lose, when their original logo was Moloch's star???? A trend continuing today with all the rich, elite, and successful. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
On a side note,Cadillacs started by Henry Leland the same guy who also worked for the Ford Motor Company and the man who started Lincoln as well,which suggests that most of these domestic automakers had a common interest as well being cousins indirectly
Ford is catching on fire 🔥 t self just look at the recalls they have. Ford is the company whit more recalls than any other. (Pinto,f150,explorer and new explorers, expeditions and many many more. 2 dodge built a better engines for planes that were used in ww2 .
Funny how Ford couldn't design a good car until he teamed up with Horace and John. Then he never designed another car after they parted ways... Ford was an assembly line designer, the Model T was a Dodge.
You realize the most powerful production American car right now is a dodge c170 1025hp and it’s based on a Mercedes chassis which Mercedes sensor and a German trans right. The hemi is American though. The Japanese market has been failing. They have the gtr that’s the longest existing platform unchanged in history so much that nobody cares anymore and they are heavy and the Supra that’s German 🤣. Everything else is a low powered cheap somewhat reliable for what it is but planned to fail under specified computer simulations so that warranties don’t need to be covered. Reliability from Asian countries have gone down from the 90s but displacement was decreased and turbos were added on top of extra weight so regardless physics are physics. Ford was voted highest in recalls recently and is voted most unreliable. It’s even true in their performance line. Been proven raptor vs trx. Gt500 blocks have been blow many times. GT motors blown many times. They use aluminum blocks for weight savings then command 8600prm out of them on boost 🤣 and expect it to stay together. Parts cost to much. This is why many go Chevy. And ford is capped on cubic inches while having a physically bigger dimensional motor with less displacement and capability after built with boost to make it up. The price of a gt500 is a left nut but then again all cars are becoming expensive just like the hellcats. But fords still sitting at 760hp, Chevy 755, dodge 1025 and before that 840, before that 717 then 707. The only limiting factor here is the Mercedes chassis 🤣 it’s to heavy. The only way to make a ford fast is to heavily modify it or do a roll race catering to it while it being modified. So I would say dodge is killing it for performance now I wouldn’t buy anything that’s not performance from them today because it’s all trash that’s from another country refaced or heavily influenced via shit parts and designs. 15-2023 pooping on ford still. FYI the ford GT wasn’t even made by ford the only part ford added was the engine which isn’t even a v8 and makes 660 hp in 2023 for over 2 mil 🤣. Not being a fan boy here I’ve owned many cars from all 3 manufactures trucks cars and performance cars I also race and build engines and my family are mechanics and racers. For a car you want to make fast on the street in roll racing or even willing to spend the dollar at the track on boost they do well up to 2000 hp then it’s done and not reliable what so ever getting passed by 3000 plus hp cars with more tq at the track today. On the street though the less tq in a dig is easier to control less likely to spin vs a Chevy or a dodge but if you know what your doing with tuning and can drive it doesn’t matter.
Like Enzo Ferrari running Alfa's race team, then building his own brand, Lamborghini complaining about ferraris clutch,then building his own car.. Lewis Chev running fords race team, dodge bros making engines, they all thought they could do better. Competition made the marques. Many more tried and failed financially. Would be boring(now mostly is) if they were all the same. Still, dodge bros were like the Cray crime twins.
I’m 6 minutes in, & while the content is informative, I have to ask, was this produced to keep the attention of an 8 year old?? Why the constant nonsensical graphics and sound effects?? You would think their target audience was high school at best given how it was produced. But it’s about dodge and ford, & I can’t imagine most of the people clicking on this are younger than 30, at the most. I’ll never understand why content creators feel the need to dumb down EVERYTHING these days. I feel like it’s infected every form of media & entertainment. Is this what social media has done to us??
Wow what a interesting history of the relationship between Henry Ford and the Dodge Brothers ! I was not aware of any of this automotive history until now ! Great job and I will seek out more of your automotive history videos in the future. Thank you
Just subscribed to this channel looks great about a year now I see active I want to catch up and see all the videos here... Hope to see videos on DeLorean and Vector car companies soon !! Please 🙏
This is a great video, i love #Dodge since i first saw the 1997 Viper. So this video caught my attention as a history lesson on how it began. Can't wait to learn more.
I don’t know how true all this is because I watched a documentary on ford that said, the Dodge brothers made carburetors transmissions and axles for Ford and at some point he owed them quite a bit of money that he couldn’t come up with so he gave them stocks in the Ford motor company which they did not want but it turned out that It made them very wealthy, so I’m not quite sure whether all these little details or really true who knows but it sounds like somebody’s writing the story on the side of the dodge brothers. Good story if it’s true. Love the pictures
There have been other videos on this subject here on RUclips that were filled with misinformation. This video seems better researched and presented. Good job!
That was really interesting! Thank you for making this video. I’m a certified car nut and yet I still quite a lot today. Well done and bravo! Signed, Mr jommins
Its funny hearing this i know tried to shaft Harley Davidson they also complained about the Daytona and superbird and got them banned from nascar while trying to produce a sloped nose Torino .i always loved dodge's design start to finish
Nice documentary . One thing to take from all of this ? There are no friends in the corporate world. That’s a given. Both sides made they’re fortunes in a time when there wasn’t the strict regulations like we have nowadays .
That would be interesting if they could make a movie about this. Also mentioning other car companies (Ransom Eli Olds-Oldsmobile) .. Maybe it’s just too late, this would’ve worked in the 1980s early 90s.
If it wasn't for the few muscle cars they made and having a Cummins engine in the trucks that company wouldn't have made anything worth a dam they ran that company into the ground and now owned by Fiat 😂
The Supreme Court case was significant because it helped establish the concept of fiduciary responsibility as a legal mandate. Henry Ford didn't just raise wages to spite the Dodge Bros, Ford actually believed that paying workers more was not only good business, but that it was the right thing to do. Ford also hired thousands of black people and for the most part, paid them equal wages to white employees. Additionally, part of the reasoning for lowering the cost of the Model T was because he wanted his own workers to be able to afford and own the cars they were manufacturing. The Supreme Court case was decided in favor of the Dodge Bros, arguing that even though corporations have 14th Amendment protections, they don't have any civil responsibilities or duty of care to the general public. Their only responsibility is to the shareholder.
They just didn’t understand that ford wanted to grow the buisness by making working conditions better increasing worker productivity and increasing profit. The dodge brothers just thought in short term money instead of long term.
Henry did what he felt he had to do - The Dodge Brothers (from what I have read) were geniuses in their own right but NO ONE can take anything away from Henry Ford and The Ford Motor Company. We own five Fords now and will never purchase any other brand. We absolutely LOVE Ford and their vehicles! Chrysler and Dodge (on the other hand) have had to take government money to stay in business - just like GM. No thanks on a Chrysler product or ANY GM product.
How come nobody ever shows the Dodge Brothers logo? Curious google it... Trust me. They went from the star of david overlayed over the world to a ram... Weird.
Excessive number of unrelated images and photographs that are inaccurate for the era or year being described. Completely unnecessary and distracting to use such visual cues to emphasize practically every reference and statement of fact in the presentation.
Damn 50 million in 1918 I would have quit the business right than. Why work when your a billionaire? Cause today that would have been more than 1 billion dollars. I would enjoy the hell out my life and just relax
Imagine a world without the Viper, Charger, RAM and Challenger (in that order for me) without the foundation and work by these Dodge Brothers. I love the brand #Dodge and now, thanks to this video i am gonna learn more about Dodge and it's history.
I seen several documentaries on the foundries and how the wars and how the banking issues of manufactring probly not what engineering is goal oriented at. Im not certain how Mercedes fits in that or even models the AMC.
A most interesting mini doc. Lot of stuff I was unaware of. The Dodge brothers were stubborn, but that is to their credit, that they wouldn't let Ford, who was more established, push them around. They were surely very clever men inasmuch, as has been pointed out by others, Ford never made another decent car after their departure to set up shop on their own terms. It is also telling, that after they both passed on, years of mismanagement at the Company they founded, caused Dodge Motors to be bought out by GM. It is a wonder that the rumours of the Dodge brothers isn't looked into a wee bit more. Shades of when Putin allegedly had that chap poisoned with Pulonium.....America can sometimes be its own worst enemy, and for those who think Communism in America is a more recent trend, I think the dirty underhanded dealings within the motor manufacturing sector of the era under discussion in this video, at least shows that the Detroit car moguls were equally adept at some very duplicitous practices. And it's only been gathering steam ever since.
you are so WRONG! Ford makes the best cars and trucks on the road - even a service manager at a Chevrolet dealership said the same thing - GM is pathetic.
Your facts are wrong concerning the brawling. It was Horace that had trouble starting the car. The bar party got out of hand, but the check the bar owner got the next day was enough for him to retire. The owner of the newspaper unfairly disgraced a close friend of John Dodge so he confronted him at his home and he ended the discussion with one punch. They were also criticized for hiring African Americans. They had little patience for stupidity. These brothers were my cousins and I don't appreciate the erroneous, or fake, news.
As much as Henry hated The Brothers, he never sent his "Fixer" after them the way he did his own Employees when they started talking Union and his own Son. Henry was the poster child for a narcissist who thought he knew everything.
He was mentally ill, and got progressively worse over the years. His "fixer" as you call him, was Harry Bennett. After Henry I died he left the company in shambles to Hank the Deuce, and it fell to him to get rid of of Bennett and dozens of his thug hanger-ons, who were bleeding the company white. He hired a former FBI guy to fire Bennett, and then subsequently he personally fired over 100 other guys in one day.
🤣 _Flu_ is a noun and refers to an infectious viral disease. _Flue_ is a noun and usually refers to a pipe or chimney for smoke or gases. _Flew_ is the simple past tense of the verb 'fly'
Dodge sucked so much that they couldn’t even stay in business without the help of foreign companies 😂 Till this day ford is doing great and never had to sell out to any foreign company. Dodge has been through at least three different foreign brands, and now they are completely screwed with Stellantis.
Good video, much respect. Thank you. Dodge is still living by that moto today 💩 on ford trucks and performance cars. Dodges parts are just better thus the reason they make more power na and on boost stock. Limiting factor is weight but with that comes iron dependable blocks capable of 1700 plus hp with tq to match not like the trans can take that but even then the trans are really good being ZF more capable and dependable than fords new Chevy oh I mean fords 🤣 10r80 with fords crap tuning stock.
Chrysler would later have constant financial problems and went through several owners. Today, Chrysler Corporation is foreign owned and no longer American owned. FACT: many of their vehicles are NOT built in the USA anymore either.
I don't think Henry Ford would've had any success whatsoever. The Dodge Brothers deserved better. Henry lashed out at most including Edsel. Ridiculous.
The feud between Henry Ford and the Dodge brothers is not well-known, but it's an amazing story. Enjoy this mini-documentary I made on this piece of history. And please subscribe to the channel for more videos. (Turn on the bell icon to be notified of new video releases) Thanks for watching
Ford cars are way better then junk dodge cars
Didn’t they make a movie about it?
@@cecilhoak7909 Agree 👍
@@cecilhoak7909 you must not be a mechanic then 😂😂 fords have WAY more issues
@hankisaak3688 sorry they do not your junk dodge and government motors do sorry
The Dodge Brothers were both early investors in the Ford motor Company, John was a vice president. They were among the financiers who financed Henry Ford to get him started. The Dodge Brothers original investment was $10,000. People don't understand that the Dodge boys were both millionaires by the time they financed Ford.
It was in the video
@7:40
I knew the Dodge Brothers originally had worked for Ford but I never knew about the hatred between Ford and Dodge like that very interesting video
That is BS, Henry did not hate the Dodge Brothers, and they didn't hate Henry. If you actually study this, and research, it shows Henry was one of the few people the Dodge brothers actually trusted to work with. Face it they were all Irishmen, nuf said.
Good synopsis, but two points: 1) Ford's failed 2nd car company went on to become Lincoln (not Cadillac), and led to him feuding with its' founder, Henry Leland (who also founded Cadillac). Another great story for another time. 2) You skipped over the years of corporate mismanagement after the Brothers died, which led to the owners needing Chrysler to buy the company.
You have this a little mixed up. The bankers backing Ford brought in Henry Leland to liquidate Ford's assets. Leland talked the bankers into letting him buy the assets and build cars based on the Ford design. The car and company was renamed Cadillac. Eventually Leland sold Cadillac to William C. Durant who used it, Buick, Oldsmobile and Oakland to establish General Motors.
Durant eventually forced Leland out and he subsequently founded Lincoln. By 1922 Lincoln had become insolvent and was put up for sale by Leland's investors. Henry Ford, always one to hold a grudge, was the only bidder, very low at that, and acquired Lincoln. So Henry Ford being who he was, shortly after fired both Henry Leland and his son, Wilfred, who was Lincoln's chief engineer.
The early US auto industry was a regular rivalry of personalities as well as a competition for auto sales.
you are incorrect - his failed company DID become Cadillac - he bought Lincoln later because Edsel loved luxury cars. didn't know about the corporate mismanagement at Dodge - so thanks for that history.
@@rockandroll4689 Ford had 2 failed car companies. The first one was being liquidated when Henry Leland took it over and created Cadillac. Later Leland left Cadillac to found Lincoln to make Liberty engines for the war effort. Later Ford (still holding a grudge) acquired Lincoln when it became insolvent mostly out of spite (He offered the only bid at 5 mil, the judge wouldn't even accept it ) and ended up ousting Leland.
1969 was the best year ever. Dodge built they Mighty Daytona; Ford built the mighty Talledega. The Talledega won at Daytona; and the Daytone won at Talledega! Can’t get any better than that!
@dondavidson3440 Actually a Ford Torino won the 1969 Daytona 500..
@@doorguru168888 Ummmm……….Take another look at car #98 Ford Torino “Talladega” in big red letters right on the rear fender.
How could the Dodge brothers lose, when their original logo was Moloch's star???? A trend continuing today with all the rich, elite, and successful. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Galatians 6: 7.
On a side note,Cadillacs started by Henry Leland the same guy who also worked for the Ford Motor Company and the man who started Lincoln as well,which suggests that most of these domestic automakers had a common interest as well being cousins indirectly
Two Families with Irish roots. Ford and Dodge.
Stubbournes and a love of Alcohol. Great Irish traits.🇮🇪 🇮🇪
Dodge were irish in name only. Zionists through and through.
Ford may have failed to kill Dodge, but its beginning to look like Stellantis may succeed where Ford failed.
That's really sad. Soon there will be no more Dodge or Chrysler
@@fubarmodelyard1392
Or Ford, or GM, if the Left have it their way.
@@fubarmodelyard1392 only Jeep
@@mervynstent1578Only everything that used to be Chrysler Fiat LLC
Ford is catching on fire 🔥 t self just look at the recalls they have. Ford is the company whit more recalls than any other. (Pinto,f150,explorer and new explorers, expeditions and many many more. 2 dodge built a better engines for planes that were used in ww2 .
It's such a shame that the Dodge name had to fall into the hands of people who settled for the mediocrity that exists in Chrysler-land today.
These hellcat theives are making dodge look really bad right now
What is mediocre about the supercharged v8 lineup of cars? What is mediocre about the Ram series with the 6.7 inline six Cummins?
A showdown for the ages! The Dodge Brothers and Henry Ford showcased their innovation, resilience, and unwavering passion in this epic battle.
Henry Ford and Enzo Ferrari had a lot in common. They both believed that their cars were perfect and can’t be improved.
Which is why Ford today is not on solid standing
@@mrgreenbaypacker929 compared to?? Sold out to china Gmc and Bowtie??..(Took US Bailout and under the table China Bailout)
Chrysler?? 😂
@Mr GreenBayPacker what do you mean? It's literally the only American car company not to sellout.
@@bandkid3282 ok thanks for enlightening me
@@mrgreenbaypacker929 no problem, any time
Funny how Ford couldn't design a good car until he teamed up with Horace and John. Then he never designed another car after they parted ways... Ford was an assembly line designer, the Model T was a Dodge.
You might be right but it's all in the past Japanese have won that game long time ago I'm not even mentioning German cars.
You realize the most powerful production American car right now is a dodge c170 1025hp and it’s based on a Mercedes chassis which Mercedes sensor and a German trans right. The hemi is American though. The Japanese market has been failing. They have the gtr that’s the longest existing platform unchanged in history so much that nobody cares anymore and they are heavy and the Supra that’s German 🤣. Everything else is a low powered cheap somewhat reliable for what it is but planned to fail under specified computer simulations so that warranties don’t need to be covered. Reliability from Asian countries have gone down from the 90s but displacement was decreased and turbos were added on top of extra weight so regardless physics are physics. Ford was voted highest in recalls recently and is voted most unreliable. It’s even true in their performance line. Been proven raptor vs trx. Gt500 blocks have been blow many times. GT motors blown many times. They use aluminum blocks for weight savings then command 8600prm out of them on boost 🤣 and expect it to stay together. Parts cost to much. This is why many go Chevy. And ford is capped on cubic inches while having a physically bigger dimensional motor with less displacement and capability after built with boost to make it up. The price of a gt500 is a left nut but then again all cars are becoming expensive just like the hellcats. But fords still sitting at 760hp, Chevy 755, dodge 1025 and before that 840, before that 717 then 707. The only limiting factor here is the Mercedes chassis 🤣 it’s to heavy. The only way to make a ford fast is to heavily modify it or do a roll race catering to it while it being modified. So I would say dodge is killing it for performance now I wouldn’t buy anything that’s not performance from them today because it’s all trash that’s from another country refaced or heavily influenced via shit parts and designs. 15-2023 pooping on ford still. FYI the ford GT wasn’t even made by ford the only part ford added was the engine which isn’t even a v8 and makes 660 hp in 2023 for over 2 mil 🤣. Not being a fan boy here I’ve owned many cars from all 3 manufactures trucks cars and performance cars I also race and build engines and my family are mechanics and racers. For a car you want to make fast on the street in roll racing or even willing to spend the dollar at the track on boost they do well up to 2000 hp then it’s done and not reliable what so ever getting passed by 3000 plus hp cars with more tq at the track today. On the street though the less tq in a dig is easier to control less likely to spin vs a Chevy or a dodge but if you know what your doing with tuning and can drive it doesn’t matter.
@@anthonynicholich9654 Spoken like a true Import lover mate.
@Anthony Nicholich why not mention German cars?
Henry Ford died in 1947 and was involved in many cars after the Model T. The Model A that came after the Model T sold around 5 million units.
Like Enzo Ferrari running Alfa's race team, then building his own brand, Lamborghini complaining about ferraris clutch,then building his own car.. Lewis Chev running fords race team, dodge bros making engines, they all thought they could do better. Competition made the marques. Many more tried and failed financially.
Would be boring(now mostly is) if they were all the same. Still, dodge bros were like the Cray crime twins.
Don't forget Enzo's engineers leaving Ferrari and creating Auto Delta Alfas factory race team. Or Ferdinand Porsche leaving Mercedes.......
Great comments. Just want to share that is is "Louis" Chevrolet, not Lewis Chevolet.
I’m 6 minutes in, & while the content is informative, I have to ask, was this produced to keep the attention of an 8 year old?? Why the constant nonsensical graphics and sound effects?? You would think their target audience was high school at best given how it was produced. But it’s about dodge and ford, & I can’t imagine most of the people clicking on this are younger than 30, at the most. I’ll never understand why content creators feel the need to dumb down EVERYTHING these days. I feel like it’s infected every form of media & entertainment. Is this what social media has done to us??
Wow what a interesting history of the relationship between Henry Ford and the Dodge Brothers ! I was not aware of any of this automotive history until now ! Great job and I will seek out more of your automotive history videos in the future. Thank you
Just think if they had worked together and trusted each other from the beginning and the riches beyond belief among both of these car companies.
That’s not how innovation works 😂 ever heard of war?
Good video about History of Car and Education in full length. RUclips should reconsider this channel monetize.
Just subscribed to this channel looks great about a year now I see active I want to catch up and see all the videos here... Hope to see videos on DeLorean and Vector car companies soon !! Please 🙏
Thanks for the kind words. The Deloran video is already out.
ruclips.net/video/98lR7DX9rZ4/видео.html
Look at dodge now
Very fascinating and informative video...thank u 4 sharing
An amazing story, and a great video! Thank you for sharing!
This is a great video, i love #Dodge since i first saw the 1997 Viper. So this video caught my attention as a history lesson on how it began. Can't wait to learn more.
Mopar FOREVER!!!
Vive la France 🇫🇷 😂
Rust buckets
Hell Yeah 👍🏼
Very interesting and very well presented. I have now subscribed to your channel. 🇬🇧
thank you
Love the Swiss Jura canton entrepreneur (car dealer) license in that one shot...
I noticed that too.
Awesome vid and commentary 👍🏼😊
Very knowledgeable video, but it's way too busy with the pictures. Way to busy, it's just hard to comprehend what you're showing.
sorry -
I don’t know how true all this is because I watched a documentary on ford that said, the Dodge brothers made carburetors transmissions and axles for Ford and at some point he owed them quite a bit of money that he couldn’t come up with so he gave them stocks in the Ford motor company which they did not want but it turned out that It made them very wealthy, so I’m not quite sure whether all these little details or really true who knows but it sounds like somebody’s writing the story on the side of the dodge brothers. Good story if it’s true. Love the pictures
There's an interesting book called The Ford Dynasty.
@@TheRealDrJoeydid u read it
There have been other videos on this subject here on RUclips that were filled with misinformation. This video seems better researched and presented. Good job!
Thanks
That was really interesting! Thank you for making this video. I’m a certified car nut and yet I still quite a lot today. Well done and bravo! Signed, Mr jommins
You're like the coworker who just figured out how to do animations in PowerPoint
I'm bals dep in ur gramps
Chrysler Corporation went out of business in the 1999 Mercedes Benz buyout and no longer exists. RIP Mopar.😢
A clash of egos. A story too often told.
Great video
good work
Nice job
Thank you! Cheers!
General Motors was everywhere around this time. I don’t even think Chevrolet was that established yet
Chevrolet was started by a man name, Louis Chevrolet in 1907 just five years after the Ford motor company in 1903
@@wb3161 Louis and his brother were both race car drivers.
Well covered.
Make videos longer this is interesting information
Leading the car industry... Riiiight.
Cool video but Jesus Christ can you tone down the bass a little? Damn near blew the speakers out of my truck watching this video
Its funny hearing this i know tried to shaft Harley Davidson they also complained about the Daytona and superbird and got them banned from nascar while trying to produce a sloped nose Torino .i always loved dodge's design start to finish
So Dodge is one of the reasons, why there is a Ford Motor company.
Interesting video
Nice documentary . One thing to take from all of this ? There are no friends in the corporate world. That’s a given.
Both sides made they’re fortunes in a time when there wasn’t the strict regulations like we have nowadays .
that ruling now a days is arguably why we have such a difference in earned wage vs livable wage
I don’t know but I kinda like the whole “you won’t let me in so I’ll buy you” kinda vibe 🤷🏽♂️
So glad companies have to pursue profit over everything!
That would be interesting if they could make a movie about this. Also mentioning other car companies (Ransom Eli Olds-Oldsmobile) .. Maybe it’s just too late, this would’ve worked in the 1980s early 90s.
If it wasn't for the few muscle cars they made and having a Cummins engine in the trucks that company wouldn't have made anything worth a dam they ran that company into the ground and now owned by Fiat 😂
Sure did .. what a damn shame .
Thanks robert eaton.
Whoa, bro are you saying Fiat owns Dodge, I thought Mercedes owned it... if Fiat own them , I know Dodge has cheap chit 🤣🤣
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr Fiat owns ram because Dodge hasn't made a reliable pickup truck for a very very long time which is why they had to sell it
@@daleestep9518 damn , and the Mopar 🍆riders be acting like a Dodge is the best thing since slice bread 🤣🤣
Grandaddy ran whiskey in a BIG BLOCK DODGE.....
very interesting
Editing Good
Henry Ford has the mindset of every modern Ram owner lol
Parked in my garage: a 2014 Ford Focus and a 1999 Dodge Dakota.
The Supreme Court case was significant because it helped establish the concept of fiduciary responsibility as a legal mandate. Henry Ford didn't just raise wages to spite the Dodge Bros, Ford actually believed that paying workers more was not only good business, but that it was the right thing to do. Ford also hired thousands of black people and for the most part, paid them equal wages to white employees. Additionally, part of the reasoning for lowering the cost of the Model T was because he wanted his own workers to be able to afford and own the cars they were manufacturing. The Supreme Court case was decided in favor of the Dodge Bros, arguing that even though corporations have 14th Amendment protections, they don't have any civil responsibilities or duty of care to the general public. Their only responsibility is to the shareholder.
Mopar or no car.
My dad loved Dodge and Ford vehicles.
Ford is all we drive in my family.
They just didn’t understand that ford wanted to grow the buisness by making working conditions better increasing worker productivity and increasing profit. The dodge brothers just thought in short term money instead of long term.
Studebake, Chrysler, Ford, & Dodge. The BIG FOUR? Much later to be: American Motors, Chrysler, Ford, and General Motors
Henry did what he felt he had to do - The Dodge Brothers (from what I have read) were geniuses in their own right but NO ONE can take anything away from Henry Ford and The Ford Motor Company. We own five Fords now and will never purchase any other brand. We absolutely LOVE Ford and their vehicles! Chrysler and Dodge (on the other hand) have had to take government money to stay in business - just like GM. No thanks on a Chrysler product or ANY GM product.
Really interesting: thanks.
How come nobody ever shows the Dodge Brothers logo? Curious google it... Trust me. They went from the star of david overlayed over the world to a ram... Weird.
While it looks like a Jewish star that’s actually just a coincidence
What were they battling who could build the worst car?
Maybe Ford thought his model T was fantastic, or maybe his philosophy was to focus on the entry level market?
Depends on the narrator, I'd say.
Not entirely accurate but pretty good history of the truth.
What's incorrect?
when I think of Dodge, I think of Al Bundy
And his Plymouth Duster?
And 6 more payments...
I felt bad for him when he missed out on that Viper lmao
Al drove a Plymouth, never a Dodge
Excessive number of unrelated images and photographs that are inaccurate for the era or year being described. Completely unnecessary and distracting to use such visual cues to emphasize practically every reference and statement of fact in the presentation.
Damn 50 million in 1918 I would have quit the business right than. Why work when your a billionaire? Cause today that would have been more than 1 billion dollars. I would enjoy the hell out my life and just relax
Imagine a world without the Viper, Charger, RAM and Challenger (in that order for me) without the foundation and work by these Dodge Brothers. I love the brand #Dodge and now, thanks to this video i am gonna learn more about Dodge and it's history.
Ford build by Dodge, now built by Ford, downhill ever since
I seen several documentaries on the foundries and how the wars and how the banking issues of manufactring probly not what engineering is goal oriented at. Im not certain how Mercedes fits in that or even models the AMC.
I believe the dodge built the first model a,s.
Now dodge is owned by the french
A slanted and VERY factually-challenged video. I guess it made the Dodge fan Boys feel better though.
please explain.
We feel good because we can’t stop winning at drag racing.
@@heyjoe9267 There are two Ford factory F-series pickups that are faster than anything Ram makes. But keep grinning if that makes you feel better.
Why this photo of swedish rent cycles "Styr och ställ" in an all american film?
It seems like this video has a very strong bias.
Is that why some fords have interchangeable parts shared with Dodge? 😂
Yes that is right. The older models has the same interchangeable parts
F henry Ford he was the first person to start the five day work weeks FTP
Don’t forget that Ford and Dodge crossed paths with Subaru.
Huh?
@@redmr2na At the flying school.
A most interesting mini doc. Lot of stuff I was unaware of.
The Dodge brothers were stubborn, but that is to their credit, that they wouldn't let Ford, who was more established, push them around.
They were surely very clever men inasmuch, as has been pointed out by others, Ford never made another decent car after their departure to set up shop on their own terms.
It is also telling, that after they both passed on, years of mismanagement at the Company they founded, caused Dodge Motors to be bought out by GM.
It is a wonder that the rumours of the Dodge brothers isn't looked into a wee bit more. Shades of when Putin allegedly had that chap poisoned with Pulonium.....America can sometimes be its own worst enemy, and for those who think Communism in America is a more recent trend, I think the dirty underhanded dealings within the motor manufacturing sector of the era under discussion in this video, at least shows that the Detroit car moguls were equally adept at some very duplicitous practices. And it's only been gathering steam ever since.
The Dodge Brothers Motor Car Company was bought by Walter P. Chrysler when he began forming Chrysler Corporation. G.M. never owned Dodge.
@@mikethespaz372 oops my mistake - thank you for the correction - got my brands mixed up, sorry .
It’s “Polonium,” not “Pulonium.”
you are so WRONG! Ford makes the best cars and trucks on the road - even a service manager at a Chevrolet dealership said the same thing - GM is pathetic.
Your facts are wrong concerning the brawling. It was Horace that had trouble starting the car.
The bar party got out of hand, but the check the bar owner got the next day was enough for him to retire.
The owner of the newspaper unfairly disgraced a close friend of John Dodge so he confronted him at his home and he ended the discussion with one punch.
They were also criticized for hiring African Americans.
They had little patience for stupidity. These brothers were my cousins and I don't appreciate the erroneous, or fake, news.
As much as Henry hated The Brothers, he never sent his "Fixer" after them the way he did his own Employees when they started talking Union and his own Son.
Henry was the poster child for a narcissist who thought he knew everything.
Sounds a lot like Musk.
He was mentally ill, and got progressively worse over the years. His "fixer" as you call him, was Harry Bennett. After Henry I died he left the company in shambles to Hank the Deuce, and it fell to him to get rid of of Bennett and dozens of his thug hanger-ons, who were bleeding the company white. He hired a former FBI guy to fire Bennett, and then subsequently he personally fired over 100 other guys in one day.
@@murraystewartj No real comparison.
Elon Musk thinks like Henry Ford, And Ford had number one truck for 46 years straight. I think some of you people hate to give Ford credit
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr Ford was an anti-union, pro-fascist proponent of eugenics. Look it up.
would be nice that like others channel when you talk about money amount in the old days comparing what the equivalence of today money thank you
They died from the Spanish Flue of 1918/19
🤣 _Flu_ is a noun and refers to an infectious viral disease. _Flue_ is a noun and usually refers to a pipe or chimney for smoke or gases. _Flew_ is the simple past tense of the verb 'fly'
I heard Henry was a jurk
Henry Ford and his son should’ve been charged for murder when they killed their employees
The thinking of the three titans psychologically speaking soundeded typically like narcissists would do competing with each other.
I think to compete in the car world at this time, you had to be pretty cut throat.
Dodge lost its way after Lee Iaccoca
Had a 78 Dodge Omni, that dodge allmost brought me down paying to repair it , good riddance to them
Damn dodge family.
It’s too bad the Dodgers now owned by Peugeot and Fiat. Stellantis.
Dodge sucked so much that they couldn’t even stay in business without the help of foreign companies 😂
Till this day ford is doing great and never had to sell out to any foreign company. Dodge has been through at least three different foreign brands, and now they are completely screwed with Stellantis.
Good video, much respect. Thank you. Dodge is still living by that moto today 💩 on ford trucks and performance cars. Dodges parts are just better thus the reason they make more power na and on boost stock. Limiting factor is weight but with that comes iron dependable blocks capable of 1700 plus hp with tq to match not like the trans can take that but even then the trans are really good being ZF more capable and dependable than fords new Chevy oh I mean fords 🤣 10r80 with fords crap tuning stock.
Just a note, there are way more Ford trucks out there than anything else as far as trucks go probably as far as anything goes
It made over 160 million a year but sold everything for 145 million now there are a couple of widows that could care less
Ford sounded like a bit of a egomaniac.
Betcha, they wouldn't like the electric route their company is going...
Chrysler would later have constant financial problems and went through several owners. Today, Chrysler Corporation is foreign owned and no longer American owned. FACT: many of their vehicles are NOT built in the USA anymore either.
I don't think Henry Ford would've had any success whatsoever. The Dodge Brothers deserved better. Henry lashed out at most including Edsel. Ridiculous.
He was so consistently cruel to Edsel that many believed he'd brow-beaten him into an early grave.
Bad asses just like their cars
Watched from Jamaica