Sharpening at Farmers Market (Jan 2023)
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I had a quick question and I hope I'm not prying too much by asking but I live in a real small town in idaho that could possibly benefit from a service like this and was curious if you charged on a per knife basis or if you do a flat fee for x amount of knives? Also is there a good price range for someone starting out to charge? It seems like it would be worthwhile to charge more for things like bread knives that have serrations since it'll be a bit more involved than running a flat edge knife but thats just my opinion. Again feel free to answer or not answer any part of my questions anything you are willing to share I'm thankful to hear. Thanks again for sharing your craft with us and imparting the knowledge you have picked up over the years sharpening. Aloha
Apparently I should have watched farther into the video before asking hahaha just got to the part where you mentioned some of your pricing. Of course that would happen to me 😆 😂 hahaha. Sorry to bother.
your speed in the sharpening of the knives is very impressive
I really like the farmer's market videos. I learn something every time. Thanks
I like your how you handle your customers and how quick you sharpen the knives. Good job!
Thanks 👍 Its not boring around there for sure!
I love your setup, sir. That’s what I am working toward. I love the “race car” analogy of the knife that’s been properly thinned/profiled.
After many years of mobile sharpening, you might think I would be bored watching a video like this, but I love to watch you Cliff. Good stuff, my friend. I hope that our paths will cross at some point👍
@Jamie J. Hi Jamie, I am about to start a mobile sharpening business in Australia, would you have some advice for me on how to start and best advertising for a new business?
Thanks you.
Like watching a Chinese brush painting,you have perfectly captured the spontaneity and beauty of the craftsmanship of sharpening.
It never gets old!!! You are the man.... Thanks Cliff.
Appreciate the encouragement. Just like working with customers, making these videos feels good to do.
Seen it before but I could see it again and again. I love watching you sharpen all different kinds of blades. 😊
Very Nice Job. Those belts sharpening machine setups are amazing how fast you can sharpen them. Great customer interaction.
It really is that much fun, I look forward to it every week
I’ve been researching a sharpening business. I like your setup the best. No crazy expensive equipment, and amazing results. Thanks!
Prior to this I was an electronic repair man for over 20yrs so keeping it simple n straight forward is in the blood
Hanging out with the wild ponies on Assateague now instead of sunsets on Baldwin Beach. Enjoyed watching you spread Aloha and share your knowledge and skills in the field. It's great to learn more about what goes into your new trade and gives me a real appreciation for the craftsmanship involved. Big thumbs up for focusing on sustainability, and keeping the community around you safe and happy. Linda
Just me goofing around as usual. Some things dont change
MATE, I love your method of sharpening , quick, clean easy and fast, the market video was excellent as well.
Thanks 👍 I have a full channel overhaul going on and new content lined up!
Thank you. I have increased my speed and effectiveness just by watching your market videos.
He is good
Always appreciate these videos. They're probably the best educational tools for those of us newer in the trade. Your methods have served me well brother, thank you. I'd love to see a video on knife thinning if possible... as if you haven't taught your viewers enough 😂
Content idea that viewers share are one of the best ways to give back to me. I write them all down, now just to get them made!
My local farmers market has serious concerns to having people carrying knives longer than 4 inches. Local police chief says it breaks the concealed carry law for Wisconsin! Its friekking Wisconsin 60% are registered gun carry permitted! Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. Thanks for a nice video!
Life is now woke...lol
I love watching your farmers market videos. How do you power your equipment?
Cliff, I've purchased a 1 x 30 but have not tuned it yet. I've been reluctant since I power my stuff from a lithium power pack and I am concerned about draining it while sharpening since it draws more power than the Ken Onions I use.
But after watching this video I believe that given the short time on each machine and the small total sharpening time the power station I have may do okay (620 Wh). I'll have to complete the basic rebuild on the 1 x 30 try it out.
Thanks Cliff. I learn something every time I watch one of your videos, especially the market videos.
Glad you like them! I miss the market more then a bit. Love the crowd n doing the song n dance
Very impressive operation, I like your system and your friendly interaction with customers.
Thank you very much!
Your setup and workflow is awesome man
Love watching you work.
Likewise Jim! Just starting a channel overhaul today actually with new banner to check out and redoing thumbs next. Check it for ideas ;)
Aloha Cliff I enjoy watching your videos. A few years back I took interest in sharpening knives using the wet stones. I found out that it took a long time and it wasn’t that easy to do so I stop. Watching your videos sparked an interest again. I purchased the harbor freight 1x30 and gonna give it a go. I live on Oahu and one day would like to fly up to Maui to meet you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge much appreciate it. God bless!! Mahalo nui
Welcome to stop by anytime. Ive had several guys come for training and/or just hang out.
I have come to the same conclusion two light swipes on either side is perfect to tune in a cutting edge. I use 600 grit DMT ( Diamond ) plates. There is an extremely small amount of material that need to be removed bring the edge back especially on a well thinned knife. Using 325 mesh for DMT for secondary bevel.
Love this! Pretty busy flow there. I like your free handing the scissors.
Very nice. What are the grits of the two 1x30's?
It's oddly satisfying to watch you work.👍 more videos like this please 🙏
New Sub. Really enjoy your Farmer’s Market videos. More please sir… Thank you!
Great video, I been thinking about starting a business, and fle market was a perfect place to shoot the video. Good luck
Nice job, Cliff! Thanks for putting this out there.
I'm interested in getting into sharpening part time on the weekends. Tuffy told me to talk to you about the equipment. What should I buy? Do you offer the belts....and the sanders?
Hey Dennis please email me or msg directly. Happy to help with suggestions to get setup.
It would be very helpful to do a short vid on sharpening serrated. Both steak knives and bread knives. In this vid, it looks like you use the edge of the belt to hit the scallops of the small serrated knives on one belt but then hit the other side of the knife on the next machine
Great video. Like you explanations. You really show your mastery doing the scissors freehand!
Love your channel love your shop inspires me to do more. Thank you for your all your hard
Work
Aloha and Happy new Year Cliff! Love the farmers market videos! Even better when there in person! It doesn't matter if it's sharpening or just interacting with the customers. New finds with every video! People should remember these are not instruction videos. I view these as great mentoring videos! You showing your craft, how you do it what works for you! They are awesome and thanks for taking the time to share your passion and experience!
Appreciate that Todd, please stay in touch. The Roundup in April too should be a great event if can make it to Cali.
This guy can pump out knives holly shit! It takes me like 7 min start to finish a knive on my tormek t8
I’m new into sharpening. What does ‘thinning’ of the knives mean and how would you correct that?
Enjoyed the video. Man I'd pay for you to teach me this trade😂.
You have an awesome set up there and what a terrific way to meet new folks and make some damn goid change while doing so.
This video gives me some terrific ideas.
Now.....To put them to work.
Once we get the location completely build-out we will be offering sharpening
Thanks for sharing I always learn something watching your videos.
Cliff, this video simply blew me away. I sharpen using the Tormek system but it is nothing compared to the speed and results you obtain with those 3 belt grinders. Absolutely AMAZING! How long did it take you to get up to that level and what was your investment in equipment? Thanks. Excellent video.
Cliff I’m a new sharpener and have a question. As I watch your videos. It appears that you sharpen pocket knives on you guide also. When I do this the bevel is way different than what I start with. So how are you doing this with what looks like the same factory bevel???
Thanks for the video!
How you control the metal filings?
Magnet or vacuum or?
Quality is somewhat objective, if its sharp, feels good in my hand and has a blade shape appropriate for the task its a good knife, I never care what kind of steel they’re made of, I just sharpen them regularly.
I always try to be kind and diplomatic about steel and sharpness.
Wow, yoga pants and spydercos. And you get paid! Seems like a good gig.
You are somewhat alternating, but i noticed you finish the knife on the same side as you started. (on step one) Any reason for this ?
I enjoy your videos and have learned a lot as a new subscriber. Could you please give your thoughts on the Tormek T8 or their systems in general? My plans, if i buy their system is to do our kitchen knives, scissors, pocket knives etc. Once I feel confident in my abilities I will offer services to friends and family. Thanks
I think those cheap hollow knives are made out of tin.. I have to make the bevel more obtuse just to get them to form and edge without falling away!
Thanks!
Thank you!
Nocked it out of the park friend! Did you say you sharpen all them knives at 15 degrees? The belts I got from you they are working great especially the felt belts. Thanks
I find that 15° is my sweet spot. Many possibly could be done lower but depends on all the external factors more like what they cut and what they are cutting on etc.
If I was seeing any come back that were chipped or rolled I would know Im to shallow of angle...but I never do.
I only saw 10 min
Would it be helpful to wear a dust mask or similar?
Always great vid!😊
Maybe I will do some hang out at the shop videos while I sharpen down there next?
What are the different machines you have in the van
I have a van tour video
We’ll be in Maui in December. Where are the farmer’s markets you go to? I’d like to come by in person while I’m there.
The market I sharpen add is the UpCountry Farmers Market.
We will also have what I hope is a pretty amazing brick and mortar store open in the next month or so
Your final belt grinder (deburring) has changed.. the wheels look different and you have two slots for the tool arm. The belt looks wider too.. did you change machines?
Swapped out for a 2x36 leather belt machine. Ill probably switch to felt on the same machine once the leather gets good and seasoned. I enjoy switching it up, keeps my process fresh and gives options.
@@CurryCustomCutlery What abrasive are you using for felt? I've just started with them, using an angle guide with it has given me a nice little bump in sharpness. I've started with Autosol, really keen to try Tormek Honing Paste on the second one, it works fantastic on the Tormek leather wheel.
@@mitch3384 For the felt stropping step when Im using that I like to use more compound and maybe with a spritz of 3u diamond emulsion on top
@@CurryCustomCutlery thank you for the video, sir, did you switch the direction of the belts? I just bought a 1x30 and I see that yours runs the opposite direction.
Good evening, I've been wondering if you offer any of your 1×30 sharpeners.??? And if so how much would they be??? Thanks and keep up the great videos.
I have developed a drive wheel to be added to the 1x30 with a sewing machine motor but I leave it as a DIY.
Do you have to ask for ID if young people want knives sharpened or people wanting machetes/swards sharpened? I’m in the UK, our laws are strict due to proliferation of knife crime!!
All the best 👍
Nothing like that. Grandma can walk up with a samurai sword or whatever.
Good afternoon Tell me: 1 and 2 stages of sharpening at what grit value do you work? I will be grateful for the answer. Good luck to you.
Cubitron p120
Trizact a30
Leather or felt belt to strop
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So just this day alone .... you make like 300 + That's crazy man.
Its one of the reasons I really enjoy sharing this information with all of you is it can be a great career move if you enjoy this kind of thing...but its not without risks of injury also.
Hey Cliff quick question... is that belt spinning towards the roof or the floor... just couldn't figure out if you were sharpening with cutting edge in the direction the belt is going or against it... thank you sir
Abrasive belts are used edge leading with angle guide. Stropping step is always done edge trailing to avoid damaging the belt and yourself.
What angle do you recommend thinning the knives at ? Do you have a preference for width behind the cutting edge ? Appreciate all the videos.
That's a really hard question to answer so much of it depends on the knife and the situation. Most often it is just a feel...
@@CurryCustomCutlery In terms of feel I find that thinning the knife behind the cutting edge by 0.005" seems to lower perceived pressure to cut by 50%.
I first focus on real world testing & then attempt to quantify the difference. You like I, seem like someone not afraid of making tools for to achieve intended results quickly. Do you use an angle guide when thinning the blade ?
Nice video.
Interested in your set up.
Did you reverse the 1x30s ?
@@scottydudley5700 they can be reversed but I run them edge leading into the angle guide for several reasons. I have a video on edge leading with the angle guide you may find interesting
Interestingly, you can pick up snippets of knowledge on the fly by observation.
WHAT GRIT thanks
Youre awesome!!!! 👏🏼
You too!!
Hi Cliff, good video as always.
What happened to the Viel ?
Do you have security cams in the van or just recording for RUclips?
Thanks 😉👍
Hey there Mr. Bird, this was just my cell phone in small tripod. Almost missed getting first machine in the shot altogether. We should colab some time?
@@CurryCustomCutlery Thanks, I'm as good looking as a troll (the type of creatures who live under a bridge), may not be a good idea to show my face in a video 😁✌️
So no attempt to match blade angles?
Absolutely zero attempt...I drop the angle to about 15° on most everything to improve cutting performance. You cant go really below 12° without running into metal deformation but above that is fair game. Despite commmon misconceptions and half truths passed down this is totally ok. Real world testing proves it.
I want to convert my harbor freight belt sander. I need the driver wheel. Where can I get to drive a wheel?
We have the drive Wheels available on our website... It is designed to work with the sewing machine motor and a 15 mm shaft
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It looks like you are sharpening them all at the same angle. Is that what is happening? That would make things faster.
15° is a great area to sharpen at. You can go lower but risk certain steels and certain knives to chip or roll. Going with a larger angle for hard work knives is something I do by laying on the primary bevel instead of the flat.
I don't know if allowing wandering randos access to loose knives is the best idea lol
Story of my life....haha!
Hey brother I'm thinking about doing a moble system. How can I get business when I'll only be at that location for the weekend?
Its like anything really I think...work of mouth and reputation will spead the growth of your business no matter what. Just make sure its the best work it can be and blow em away!
Was always told by my grand father, never sharpen dry . Always use a liquid!
I sharpen now in my retirement days , I use whetstone s . And I have repeat customers . My clients are around 200 that call all the time . My last customer I had sharpened for said she had this guy sharpen her knives and they filled quickly. I researched that guy and he used belts like you , he burned the metal with the belts
He obviously didn't know how to use the belts properly then. I use Tormek, Wicked edge and 1x30 for my commercial sharpening business. I've never burnt a knife using the 1x30 belt sander.
Im starting a home business sharpening knives on the side. How much money you think i need to start?
Msg or email me if you would like. Too much to put in a youtube comment.
@Curry Custom Cutlery I keep seeing people buying knife sharpeners from Harbor Freight so it can't be that much. Lol
Interesting machine for the leather belt.
Can you give me some info?
Thanks
It was available thru amazon for a while but also from Aliexpress. Not cheap($550 with shipping) Look for 50mmx915mm sander
Its 2' wide and can handle different lengths.
@@CurryCustomCutlery Do you have a name brand.
Having difficulty finding it.
Thanks
@@scottydudley5700 www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800112350640.html?
What are the three different grits 👍
Honestly this is covered in many of cliffs other videos. My advice rather than a direct answer is go and watch cliff's other videos and find the answer. It's worth the journey!
Sometimes its buried in and hard to sort out so I dont mind.
Cubitron p120
Trizact a30 600 grit
Leather belt to strop with 3u diamond emulsion
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@@CurryCustomCutlery
Just found your channel. Great job on everything👍👍👍👍
Sharpener's ASMR 🙂
You spraying water on is mostly for clean up?
rubbing alcohol
No matter how hard I try, I can't sharpen it that fast. and if it does, they quickly get dull
The concepts of the process is simple. If getting dull its not from the process but something not quite right in the progression you are doing. Fully deburring is critical.
@@CurryCustomCutlery I know. my reference book is the book of Dr. Kraichuk. on tormek I get razors.
but on a belt grinder it does not work. even though I'm supervising the work under a x1600 microscope.
There are differences with belts if you are going edge leading or trailing and that determines how to do the most crucial step the final stropping.
What did you spray on the knives ?
It was a hydrogen and oxygen solution in hos bottle. It works well at cleaning the metal debris
Sorry farmers market lol
What grits are you doing here? 120, 400 then leather?
cubitron p120
trizact a30
strop leather or felt with compound n emulsion 3u
@@CurryCustomCutlery Thank you for the reply.
at what angle do you sharpen?
In his past videos, he always says 15-17 degrees.
Who was the weirdo at 1:00 lol
You aint seen nothing...people be bop thru all day long.
Probably just camera shy.
Too many of my friends and family have had their expensive knives ruined at a farmers market belt sander massacres.... No Thanks.
Curry knows what he is doing.