This is the equivalent of the new player with the 5 star unit they spent money for vs the veteran who still plays using the first unit they got at the start
@@mechanomics2649 Ok then. I'll simplify it for you. Experienced pilot who uses older mobilesuit to beat younger Inexperienced pilot with a much more powerful mobilesuit
Just know, even though Amuro was scared af in here, Doan was also shitting his pants, knowing about the "Federation's White Devil" and was implied to not expecting to win, especially in the way he did.
0:25 Crazy that Amuro threw away the Beam Rifle, a very invaluable weapon that oneshot Zeon mobile suits and has a power of a battleship's beam weaponry.
It's not that invaluable, I mean, they send out new ones for Amuro I think + he's engaging in close combat, and I don't think having a long rifle would be of any help
If he did that I think that could have provided an opportunity for Doan to push Amuro into the ocean, since Amuro would probably be figuring out how in the hell he was going to throw the beam rifle in that position.@@katboi7140
This guy beat Amuro and the RX-78-02 in a standard MS-06F Zaku II with just a heat hawk. That is unbelievably impressive considering all the high performance MS and Zeon aces piloting them Amuro faces and destroys.
I mean, this was still when Amuro was a bit green I believe but that still makes this an impressive win for Doan considering other veterans still weren’t a match
@@user-pj1ec5om5gI mean hadn’t Amuro fought Char multiple times and destroyed dozens of mobile suits at this point? While he wasn’t as good as he was at the end of the war calling him green is a serious understatement.
@@Ally.Cat.252 In short. Yeah. The Gundam is no where near as maneuvarable in Earths Gravity. Doan has a massive homeground advantage he knows the terrain, he knows the map, he knows how to navigate in weather and he knows to take Amuro by surprise. Amuro loses because he doesnt know the terrain.
Agreed! They managed to make the zaku look a lot less clunky with how they articulated his movements, almost as if he's being driven by a seasoned veteran and experienced mech pilot. So cool!
To be fair, by that time, Amuro was not a new player and Doan was indeed a super elite veteran, but even Doan was a veteran, if not for the collapsing cliff, things will end quite badly for Doan. Doan was not winning and Amuro was learning his move. In the end of movie,when facing high mobile Zaku II piloted by a veteran, Amuro was totally toying with the guy.
I'm fully expecting the original series to get a full remaster like this for the 50th anniversary in a few years, and I cannot wait to see it all over again. I hope the original VAs will make it to then, but I wouldn't mind a brand new cast either.
No idea. I generally don't like how the MS move in this movie. They are more like people dressed in armor than giant MS. In Hathaway, you can feel MS move with much more substance and inertia, and really makes you feel the scale and power of the MS more.
Cucuruz Doan's Island It's a movie adaptation of the infamous 15th episode of the original series that got scrubbed from pretty much every release of said series after the first DvD release
No. No, no, no, no. How on Earth do you sneak up on someone in a mobile suit?! The Gundam clearly has a camera on the back of its head. What, there's nothing in the computer that warns the pilot of a bloody Zaku walking up behind you?!
I mean, I know it’s fiction and as such it needs to add some extrq drama, but I wonder who the heck would accept piloting a vehicle that systematically EXPLODES and kills everyone inside and around it when it’s hit 🤷🏻
Well, I think the mobile suit was designed for space combat i mean even when you survive in space doesn't mean you will survive for long enough to evaquate you from the combat zone
So that's why they didn't make some survivable mobile suit but in Gundam Thunderbolt i see io flaming survive by detaching his gundam and his core i don't know much about gundam parts but yeah you can survive depend what mobile suit you use
@bamantioindrahidayat1165 both sides didn't even try to make a survivable mobile suit, the mass produced gundam RGM 79 actually was never able to detach its core the only variant that could detach its core was Thunderbolt variant
MS at this time were nuclear powered and designed for space. An MS reactor wasn’t guaranteed to blow, and at this point the explosions were relatively small, and sometimes they do just disable from damage and pilots will even try to do just that. When beam weapons became more common the chain reactions likewise happened more, since beams always cause a reaction if they hit the reactor. In space, where these machines were primarily designed to operate, this isn’t too bad but it’s devastating in atmosphere. A good example is the first episode of Unicorn where a ReZel goes nuclear and obliterates entire blocks in a colony and even puts a hole in it. tl;dr MS being powered by reactors is the reason they sometimes blow. In space this isn’t as big a deal and tbh when you’re hit in space you’re usually dead anyway.
feels weird how the Movable Frame was supposed to give MS more agility/better movement when OYW suits are shown to be just as agile and poseable with their primitive tech.
The movable frame was more about extending the range of motion possible while maintaining armour strength, the suits likely kept around about the same mobility while being able to up their armour
@@averyangrycrow4936but if I recall it's main downside is exactly the opposite - it opens up a new range of humanlike motions, but a the cost of severely reducing structural stability and weakening the armour as you're supposed to dodge enemy fire now rather than taking it (which you wouldn't survive anyway due to everything having beam weaponry). Honestly, it seems movable frame exists only as a plot device and Gundam writers/animators just don't care to keep everything consistent with it.
Really, he throw away his beam rifle. I mean I get it he's just a kid. But come on, he could have at least attached it to the back of his mobile suit. Or create distance between him and the Zaku to shoot it.
Yeah I think there are some pretty distasteful action sequences across the whole movie, on top of having characters making strange decisions in combat. The action almost feels limited in some scenes because of that. I think this is the result of unimaginative direction from project leads like the director.
The Originの時系列だと、ジャブロー戦の後だから、シャアのズゴックをジムで(ウッディ大尉のファンファンがいたといえ)相手した後なんだよね。それでドアンが乗っているとはいえ、ガンダムでザク相手に苦戦してるのは、今更ながらなんか違和感。。。 更にあとにシャアザクと対峙した時も、シャアが気を逸らした瞬間を討ち取ったといえ、足場の悪いジブラルタルの岩山の上で赤い彗星と互角に鍔迫り合いしてたし。それこそこのドアンとの出会いやベルファスト・大西洋の戦いで急成長したのかもしれないけど、あまりにも初期のアムロ感が強すぎる
This is the equivalent of the new player with the 5 star unit they spent money for vs the veteran who still plays using the first unit they got at the start
Sure, if you know nothing else about the One Year War outside of watching this clip, I guess.
Dude cannot take the joke
@@UniversalTreatIsYummy Dude cannot make a good joke that makes sense
@@mechanomics2649I thought it was a good joke.
@@mechanomics2649 Ok then. I'll simplify it for you. Experienced pilot who uses older mobilesuit to beat younger Inexperienced pilot with a much more powerful mobilesuit
Just know, even though Amuro was scared af in here, Doan was also shitting his pants, knowing about the "Federation's White Devil" and was implied to not expecting to win, especially in the way he did.
Damn
Guess Element of Surprise and Luck was on Doan's side
"Probably just another set of GMs landing to investi- what the shit is that!!?"
He didn't seem too concerned
People saying Doan won as if he wasn't just standing there going "oh god what just happened I should not have survived that"
You know the different between Winning and Shitting yourself near to death while Winning?
Shit.
He won
He won
0:25 Crazy that Amuro threw away the Beam Rifle, a very invaluable weapon that oneshot Zeon mobile suits and has a power of a battleship's beam weaponry.
しかしアムロがビームライフルを手放さなければガンダムは崖から落ちていただろう
It's not that invaluable, I mean, they send out new ones for Amuro I think + he's engaging in close combat, and I don't think having a long rifle would be of any help
@extremel.z.s3140 he could've just thrown it on the ground instead
If he did that I think that could have provided an opportunity for Doan to push Amuro into the ocean, since Amuro would probably be figuring out how in the hell he was going to throw the beam rifle in that position.@@katboi7140
In reality, Amuro should have made use of his boosters there.
This guy beat Amuro and the RX-78-02 in a standard MS-06F Zaku II with just a heat hawk. That is unbelievably impressive considering all the high performance MS and Zeon aces piloting them Amuro faces and destroys.
Actually, it was Amuro's mishaps.
I mean, this was still when Amuro was a bit green I believe but that still makes this an impressive win for Doan considering other veterans still weren’t a match
@@user-pj1ec5om5gI mean hadn’t Amuro fought Char multiple times and destroyed dozens of mobile suits at this point? While he wasn’t as good as he was at the end of the war calling him green is a serious understatement.
Guess Amuro is a lot weaker fighting on earth?
@@Ally.Cat.252 In short. Yeah. The Gundam is no where near as maneuvarable in Earths Gravity. Doan has a massive homeground advantage he knows the terrain, he knows the map, he knows how to navigate in weather and he knows to take Amuro by surprise. Amuro loses because he doesnt know the terrain.
i love the 3d animation it makes the zaku look so awesome
Agreed! They managed to make the zaku look a lot less clunky with how they articulated his movements, almost as if he's being driven by a seasoned veteran and experienced mech pilot. So cool!
I remember somewhere someone called doan the char aznable of ground combat, and that is the most accurate description of him i could imagine
The moment Amuro regretted that he hasn’t leant sumo
To be fair, by that time, Amuro was not a new player and Doan was indeed a super elite veteran, but even Doan was a veteran, if not for the collapsing cliff, things will end quite badly for Doan. Doan was not winning and Amuro was learning his move. In the end of movie,when facing high mobile Zaku II piloted by a veteran, Amuro was totally toying with the guy.
I'm fully expecting the original series to get a full remaster like this for the 50th anniversary in a few years, and I cannot wait to see it all over again. I hope the original VAs will make it to then, but I wouldn't mind a brand new cast either.
The memories come back.
アムロの背後を取っただけで凄い
Is there a particular reason he didn’t use his back thrusters to give him a boost back up? Was he out of fuel?
Most likely especially since it's a worn down old model of a zaku II
@@iceydicey77 Ah no I meant Aumero in the Gundam when he fell at the very end,
@@Artemie-np3qu
下手にジャンプしたらドアンに切られるからです
ドアンは公式設定でアムロより実力が上です
No idea. I generally don't like how the MS move in this movie. They are more like people dressed in armor than giant MS. In Hathaway, you can feel MS move with much more substance and inertia, and really makes you feel the scale and power of the MS more.
Origin is zeonwank. Amuro's less competent while zeon is more competent in general than the TV show
0:25 ビームライフルこれで出番終了
アムロの背後取るのすげーえ
ive never seen a gundam jump before. ive seen them booster out of the way, but jumping is new
Welcome to the bottom barrel world of early UC.
因みにノベライズ版で崖の崩落が起こらなかったらアムロは着地した隙に殺されていたことが明記されています
なのでアムロは言い逃れできないレベルで敗北しました
まあまだアムロも完全に覚醒してない子供だしね
後付けのストーリーで死児の齢を数えるって、やってて気持ち悪くないか？ｗ
@@4BLOCKERS
リメイクなんだよなぁ…
TV版でもアムロに勝ってる事実は変わらねぇんだ
@@hcdmjqtahqournxqgrjM 覚醒してない子供と比べられる時点でアムロの凄さが分かる
@@Yuna-go1wo
結論
どっちも強い
He could have just uses the gundams thrusters here. Theres another episode were the gundam pretty much flies into the sky and cuts a rocket in half
what movie/series is this. it looks like og gundam but it's to clean and ... new looking
Cucuruz Doans Island
Cucuruz Doan's Island
It's a movie adaptation of the infamous 15th episode of the original series that got scrubbed from pretty much every release of said series after the first DvD release
Is it a movie or a series remake? Man, that is awesome. Where do I watch it? What is the name?
2022 movie Cucuruz Doan's Island
2022 movie Cucuruz Doan's Island
0:36 Doan never used Heat Axe in the Mobile Suit Gundam 1979 anime and used huge rocks to throw at the enemy instead.
They wanted to give Doan a Badass Moment.
Which show is this?
What gundam series is this???
At the end he’s just like “did that really just happen?”
空中に浮かぶ事は出来なくても、スラスターで落ちる事は無いのでは？
I'm pretty sure Doan Planned for the cliff to fall by getting the gundam to move too much on the edge.
Why did Doan not use the heat hawk as his first strike
Damnit Amuro, you've got a jump pack.
No. No, no, no, no. How on Earth do you sneak up on someone in a mobile suit?! The Gundam clearly has a camera on the back of its head. What, there's nothing in the computer that warns the pilot of a bloody Zaku walking up behind you?!
Which gundam serice is this from ?
Cucuruz doan's island ova
It's a remake of First Gundam episode 15, The Island of Kukursudan.
its on crunchyroll in US
It's an OVA movie, called Cucuruz Doan's Island, based in the "Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin" timeline.
I mean, I know it’s fiction and as such it needs to add some extrq drama, but I wonder who the heck would accept piloting a vehicle that systematically EXPLODES and kills everyone inside and around it when it’s hit 🤷🏻
Well, I think the mobile suit was designed for space combat i mean even when you survive in space doesn't mean you will survive for long enough to evaquate you from the combat zone
So that's why they didn't make some survivable mobile suit but in Gundam Thunderbolt i see io flaming survive by detaching his gundam and his core i don't know much about gundam parts but yeah you can survive depend what mobile suit you use
Aneheim Electronic or Zeon Republic(funny thing these guys are litteraly space n4z1)
@bamantioindrahidayat1165 both sides didn't even try to make a survivable mobile suit, the mass produced gundam RGM 79 actually was never able to detach its core the only variant that could detach its core was Thunderbolt variant
MS at this time were nuclear powered and designed for space. An MS reactor wasn’t guaranteed to blow, and at this point the explosions were relatively small, and sometimes they do just disable from damage and pilots will even try to do just that. When beam weapons became more common the chain reactions likewise happened more, since beams always cause a reaction if they hit the reactor. In space, where these machines were primarily designed to operate, this isn’t too bad but it’s devastating in atmosphere. A good example is the first episode of Unicorn where a ReZel goes nuclear and obliterates entire blocks in a colony and even puts a hole in it.
tl;dr MS being powered by reactors is the reason they sometimes blow. In space this isn’t as big a deal and tbh when you’re hit in space you’re usually dead anyway.
Grandpa looks awesome.
What IS this Gundam wing?
What gundam show is this? Id like to watch it :)
Cucuruz Doan's Island
Show? Movie name?
To be Honest, I think Amuro is beginning to win, until the ground start to collapse, called it fate to make Doan did not die.
Doan was a coward that struck from behind. never forget how the movie started.
He should have went with light, but fast swift slashes instead of a powered up overhead smash. Especially once he saw that Zaku had that dash.
feels weird how the Movable Frame was supposed to give MS more agility/better movement when OYW suits are shown to be just as agile and poseable with their primitive tech.
The movable frame was more about extending the range of motion possible while maintaining armour strength, the suits likely kept around about the same mobility while being able to up their armour
You are not wrong. It's just that the Origin animators made the OYW suits feel super floaty and agile in this continuity for some reason.
@@averyangrycrow4936but if I recall it's main downside is exactly the opposite - it opens up a new range of humanlike motions, but a the cost of severely reducing structural stability and weakening the armour as you're supposed to dodge enemy fire now rather than taking it (which you wouldn't survive anyway due to everything having beam weaponry). Honestly, it seems movable frame exists only as a plot device and Gundam writers/animators just don't care to keep everything consistent with it.
RX-78-02, strongest plot armor in mecha history
Anime name?
0:17 ここ相撲感ある。
it is remake?? name pls?!
Mobile Suit Gundam: Cucuruz Doan's Island
阿姆羅是否忘了鋼彈有噴射背包？
不意打ちとはいえアムロを倒すのは凄すぎ
何でいつも、ザクとガンダムは崖で戦うか。
What kind if this movie? So modern
It's Cucuruz, Doan's Island. Apparently it's a movie adaptation of one of the original anime's cut episodes.
I'll never fight someone named doan, because there's a chance his last name is Al
バルカンがあるのになぜ使わないんだ？
ヒートホークって強度的に一度対象にぶち当てたらぶっ壊れると思う
Really, he throw away his beam rifle. I mean I get it he's just a kid. But come on, he could have at least attached it to the back of his mobile suit. Or create distance between him and the Zaku to shoot it.
Yeah I think there are some pretty distasteful action sequences across the whole movie, on top of having characters making strange decisions in combat. The action almost feels limited in some scenes because of that. I think this is the result of unimaginative direction from project leads like the director.
baited GG
I remember face Doan in Game Version, he was F@CKING annoying as he dodges all my attacks!
背後から組み付く意味不明。攻撃しろよ
ビームライフル海に捨てる意味不明。回収できる前方に投げろ
脇腹ブローは解るけど、組み付かれてるのに左のシールドで押し返せるはずは無い。
シールド切られて時間差で両断？真っ二つ
崖が崩れてもバーニア噴射で落ちることはない。落ちても衝撃を和らげるので気絶しない
これ観に行ったけど面白かったよ
堂安？代表の？
lol 🌊🌊
なんで崖を背にしてる状況から逃げないんだ？俺がアムロならそうはしない！
下手にジャンプしたらドアンに隙をさらすから
あと単純にドアンが強すぎてその余裕が無い
基本仕様のザクにあの機動性は無い！！！
シャア専用ザクのリミット解除の３倍モードでない限りあの近距離からのビームサーベルを瞬時にかわせない！
ランバ・ラルのグフですら無理だったのに
Silliness.
No it's not,just because the guy who won wasn't the one you've expected. Clown.
ドアンの斧はブンブンするのわかるけどビームサーベルは振り回す意味ある？リーチ活かしてコチョコチョするだけで勝てるやろ。
・まずそんな攻撃がドアンに通じるわけ無い
・そもそもフェンシングの動きができるのはギャンだけという設定
・アムロはビームサーベル居合いが得意でランバ・ラルのグフを撃破してる
OK？
@@hcdmjqtahqournxqgrjM
そもそもこの世界のビームに質量があるかどうかわかんないんだけど、仮にビーム部に質量がない場合取り回しがもう少し楽なのでは？と思ったり。少なくとも鈍器に近いザク斧よりは軽いはずだしどうせ振り回すんならもっと軽快になるような？？？
薪割り斧と百均スポンジ剣くらい質量に差があってもおかしくないと思うんだけど。
あとビーム刃は通常刃物や鈍器と違うので、刃を走らせたり運動の力を乗せてぶん殴ったりする必要がなくどちらかというと押し当てたり薙ぎ払ったりする戦い方になると思うんだよなぁ。
なんかの資料でヒート剣✖︎ビームサーベル、ビームサーベル✖︎ビームサーベルが鍔迫り合いすることに強引な説明がされてるの見たことあるから、まぁ殺陣として斬り合いが成立するのは良しとして、ヒート武器とビームサーベルはレンジ帯こそ同じものの武器の性質は全く異なるからアクションも全く違うものになるのではないかと。
ドアンがーとかアムロがーって言う話なら他のパイロットの場合は？ってことにもなるし、誰かこの辺のアクションについて納得できる考察ください。メタい話は抜きで。
ちなみに鉄血みたいに鈍器×鈍器で殴り合うのは大好物です。
@@odeco936
ビームサーベルの描写についてはハッキリ言って作品ごとにバラバラだからあんまし気にしない方がいい
特に初代ガンダムとオリジンはMSが人間的な動きをするし
ドアンの強さに関しては本編観ろとしか言えない
説得力のある強さだから
ただフェンシングみたいに突きを連続する動きはギャンしか出来ない設定なのはマジ
@@hcdmjqtahqournxqgrjM ジムスナみたいなボックスタイプでもツンツン攻撃できんてこと？
アムロ相手に気づかれず組み付いてきたり、格闘戦でチャンバラできる相手にツンツンしてるだけで勝てると思ってんの？ｗ
もうロボット(モビルスーツ)の動きやないやろ
Animation is awesome but this is such a shitty let down of a fight lol
作画監督が入院して作画崩壊を起こしただけなのに、オリジナルドアンザクと言い張って商品化し始めるバンダイに寒さを感じる
The Originの時系列だと、ジャブロー戦の後だから、シャアのズゴックをジムで(ウッディ大尉のファンファンがいたといえ)相手した後なんだよね。それでドアンが乗っているとはいえ、ガンダムでザク相手に苦戦してるのは、今更ながらなんか違和感。。。
更にあとにシャアザクと対峙した時も、シャアが気を逸らした瞬間を討ち取ったといえ、足場の悪いジブラルタルの岩山の上で赤い彗星と互角に鍔迫り合いしてたし。それこそこのドアンとの出会いやベルファスト・大西洋の戦いで急成長したのかもしれないけど、あまりにも初期のアムロ感が強すぎる