I used to think when I was buying a limited run game, I was buying something special. But they slammed their name on everything. Now I kind of cringe when I see that they're the ones releasing a game I want
That’s the sentiment I’ve been seeing A LOT online over the past few months. I’ve noticed there’s a big negative connotation with Limited Run whenever someone mentions them nowadays. That’s how I felt when I heard they were distributing Yakuza Kiwami on Switch. I was hoping it would just get a standard retail release.
Sadly, I only discovered LRG about a year and a half out from what I consider the "Beginning of the End, " which was River City Girls. It struck me as very odd when I pre-ordered a copy and it arrived like 2 weeks later right around release and I remember being a little disappointed when a few patches came out a little while after that needed to be installed. It was just like buying any other new release and not the "special" experience of getting a supposedly complete-on-cart game. Where once I eagerly checked their site to see what old favorites or new hidden gems would be getting a physical release, I now very rarely and begrudgingly buy from them when there's a Persona 4 Golden tier release to be had.
Biggest part of LRG? You can buy games at cons they are set up at MONTHS before the ppl who bought them pre sale get them. When Persona 4 got released through them, I could pick up a standard physical copy and my friend still had to wait like months until he got his.
Yup! Part of why I only order from them if I really want to grab a release as soon as it ships. Persona 4 Golden was easy to get at PAX West so there wasn’t any point in ordering it online for me. Also games like Castlevania Dominus Collection I can easily see getting restocked at VGP or at conventions very soon.
I seriously need to get an intro part in my videos. I enjoy your wii homage at the beginning each time. As much as I enjoy limited run it can be expensive. Staying in budget feels harder and harder each year. Thanks for the video! ❤
@@GamingtheOtter Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I agree, Limited Run can quickly add up in price; it’s hard to pass on certain releases from them sometimes. I appreciate you liking the Wii Homage as well, the console means a lot to me and helped me become who I am today. 🥳
At least the _smart_ thing they’ve done at the very least was digital releases of _some_ of their exclusives for those who missed the window of preorder. That much I will respect
That’s valid, the shipping packaging is a very minor complaint in my overall thoughts of LRG. I still think they’re a great company but I wanted to point out some of the flaws of them in this video (worse than just a bubble mailer) before anything worse happens.
Yes, though I’ve been noticing it more and more over the last couple of years. Especially when they started releasing digital titles and breaking the “Forever Physical” motto.
This is definitely a good topic for a video! Lots of good points here. I'm in the same boat where I haven't been too happy with a lot of what I've been seeing Limited Run do in recent times (especially that whole thing about them selling one of their 3DO game releases on burned CD-R's 😬), but at the same time they've also done so many cool things over the years that I still appreciate them. I will always be grateful that they released the SEGA Astro City Mini outside of Japan, and I really love having that in my collection.
I saw the CD-R burning while I was researching for this video and I’m surprised that isn’t a more widespread issue. Hopefully that gets resolved soon. Also thank you, I’m very glad you enjoyed this topic, I’ve been wanting to talk about it for years now. How much was the Astro Mini by the way? That sounds incredible, I’d like to own one when I get the space for it 😂
@ If I remember correctly, the Astro City Mini was a little over $100. It’s really cool for what it is, though. The tiny controls feel good (at least for someone who has small hands like myself haha), and there are quite a few obscure gems. It’s also the first time that the arcade version of Virtua Fighter 1 has ever been ported.
I just found out about them like 3 years ago. But I do think we need to keep physical media because they already telling us we won't own games when everything digital which to be fair it does say in the fine print we are only buying a license not ownership.
That’s why I’ve mainly been collecting for Switch and stopped collecting a lot of retro games. It’s not worth paying above MSRP for most games for me anymore, and Switch is still current enough where most of the titles I want aren’t super expensive compared to GameCube or DS.
I do appreciate Limited Run Games on paper. I very much prefer getting games physically when possible for most of the same reasons that you do, and having an option that's only available for a small period is certainly better than not getting these smaller titles physically at all. My problem is that you're essentially playing the lottery when it comes to if you get your copy in a reasonable time and how high quality it'll be. For example, I bought a copy of West of Loathing back in 2018, and due to complications with the developer getting sick among just lack of communication, that pushed production back a ton and it took my copy way too long to arrive as a result. Meanwhile, I bought Golf Story 2 months later and that arrived at my home before West of Loathing did. You also don't know if the game comes with any of the updates or DLC that the digital version already got. Sometimes they do, but sometimes they don't, and that kind of defeats some of the purpose of owning it physically. These releases can also feel like a scapegoat for some companies to just cheap out and produce less copies of their critically acclaimed titles to save on cash. I feel like Atlus could've easily printed copies of Persona 4 Golden themselves if they really wanted to. Most recently, the Yakuza releases confuse me greatly since they're just doing them on PS4 and Xbox... even though all of those games already got physical releases on the PS4 from Sega themselves, so why not just stick to Xbox and Switch, or better yet, just print copies for them in-house? Then there's also issues with the staff themselves and the morality of some of their choices, but that's a whole other can of worms entirely. I do still order from Limited Run if there's a game that really interests me that I don't already own digitally, but it's far from the most thrilling experience.
I’m still baffled they’re just reprinting Yakuza on PS4 since they already were on there before. The only benefit for this is for Xbox collectors since they weren’t on there physically before. Also 3, 4, and 5 Remeastered will presumably have their own cases like they do in Japan, unlike the normal US Remastered Collection just being 1 Physical game. Persona 4 Golden I believe was a retail on the Vita years ago, so going through LRG was odd imo. Limited Run still excites me when they have new releases sometimes, just not as much as they used to be back in the early 2020s.
As someone who has bought from LRG since the beginning, (I still have Breach and Clear Vita sealed.) I have to say, despite all their faults, they've very much been a positive influence on the gaming world. I'm a staunch supporter of physical media, and LRG have given me the chance to play many games I otherwise never would have given a look. They also helped spurn the physical indie scene, with Strictly Limited, Super Rare, Red Art Games, etc. I'm really looking forward to seeing what other games they can bring back with the Carbon Engine. I'm not particularly keen on the current state of countless remasters as often it feels like a lazy practice, especially when the games themselves aren't even very old. (Also price gouging. We've gone from Spyro Reignited Trilogy, with 3 games in 1, to just Pac Man World 1 by itself, at the same price point. Or Sega Mega Collection with 25+ games, at a reduced price, to Sonic Origins with buggy versions of only a handful of games for standard retail price.) But the original Clock Tower never got an official English release, and there's the prospect of them reviving games that are effectively impossible to play outside of piracy, so I'm in full support of such efforts.
Agreed, Limited Run Games has been doing a lot of good in terms of game preservation lately, especially with Clock Tower Rewind and the Carbon Engine. I just wish Remasters and Ports had a more consistent quality across the entire industry and not just for a few key players.
Agreed, Limited Run Games has been doing a lot of good in terms of game preservation lately, especially with Clock Tower Rewind and the Carbon Engine. They’ve definitely pioneered a new market and we owe them a lot for that, allowing so many indie games to get physical releases. I just wish Remasters and Ports had a more consistent quality across the entire industry and not just for a few key players.
They aren't a positive influence when they are the only option for physical period. My copy of tomba is lost in limbo and they have told me I have to give it another week to even see if it ships after I got noticed on 11/2 it was shipping. There is no Japanese published equivalent so if they can't produce my copy I am going to be out of luck to add it to my collection. It's making me regret having other stuff on preorder from them
@@geoffreychauvin1474That happened to me with Quake II for Switch. It got delayed a couple months because my original copy got lost and they had to ship me a new one. Sorry to hear that happened to you, it’s frustrating this happens even though preorders take months to fulfill.
@@geoffreychauvin1474 It's unfortunate you've had a shipping issue, but I'd argue that still doesn't take away from them being a positive influence. Many of the big games companies have been trying to do away with physical copies entirely, and much of the consumer base is focused on digital as well, seeing physical gaming as a vestige of a bygone era that people need to move on from. If it weren't for Limited Run, we might never have seen the physical market (especially for indies) grow to what it is now, and many of these physical editions for games might not exist in any capacity. Them being the only option is better than that option never existing in the first place.
I bought Persona 4 Golden on the PS4 through LGR and even though it took forever (granted the consumers are told the time frames for their products) I’m honestly so happy that I have it physically now just in case something were to happen to my digital copies🙌🏼
Yes, those are some of the best games to have gotten physical releases from LRG in my opinion. They're some of the only Switch games I display, and for good reason.
I’ve only ever bought from them for the Persona 3 Portable and 4 Golden collectors editions and aside from them being delayed to an absurd degree, I don’t have any problems with them. Sucks I missed out on the Shantae GBA game. I didn’t know it went up for preorder ):
Yeah, I was debating about getting Shantae on the GBA, but I’ll just wait until the Switch version is available for preorder. I wish the Grimorie Editions for Persona 3 and 4 were better, I wanna display them more prominently in my collection if I owned them.
@@ArcadeTanooki That’s a great idea, I never knew they shut down. I’ll have to do my research on them; I’m not too familiar with the company and what games they distributed.
Scott Pilgrim is a bad example considering it didn't include the dlc characters so if you want to play with them you need to buy the digital edition again. Also i would call this an example of a AAA or at least AA considering it was developed by Ubisoft
That’s a valid point. I wanted to include it more so as a game being preserved long after it was initially delisted, more than an indie game getting a physical release. It would likely fall under a AA Ubisoft release.
@@smashmaster13 Indeed, that’s the most frustrating thing about buying physically. I want to support these developers but I want to own these games fully too.
@@hysteria2k9 100% agree, I really should’ve put that in the video. I think they’ve redistributed some titles at conventions and events, but those were a bit limited. But yeah, AFAIK, there hasn’t been any full-blown re-releases of titles like what VGP does. Shantae and the Pirates Curse really deserves another print run IMO, especially when Shantae Advance releases.
I bought Pennywise breakaway recently. Not gonna lie I bought my brother the limited edition of Sparkster and I love it. It's sad they have those issues.
The packaging is probably due to cutbacks. If I remember correctly they had other packaging with their name on it in the past, but printed packaging is expensive.
That's fair. I also heard about them removing trading cards from their releases to reduce costs too. Which is fair, but disappointing since some of the early LRG trading cards are incredible.
ETOA? And yes, I really wanted to make this video shorter. Even when cutting segments I had to add new ones in (mainly the future of LRG), as I felt they were important in seeing where the company is headed for the future. But yes, I’ll try to keep commentary videos to under 10 mins from now on when possible, I could’ve condensed a lot more.
I disappointed with pre ordering contra operation guluga. I thought it’s limited run but copies appeared in VGP. I had to pay extra for shipping and import taxes but if I bought it from VGP I could have saved money
The nicest thing I can say about Limited Run Games is at least they're not Strictly Limited Games. SLG took my money for Puzzle Bobble Everybubble 2 years ago, missed several deadlines, and now has no new delivery estimate to offer. I should send them an invoice for the interest on the loan they took out from me. 😡 Never again. At least if I order something from Limited Run Games I can expect it to eventually ship, even if it is a crappy CD-R for the 3DO.
I used to think when I was buying a limited run game, I was buying something special. But they slammed their name on everything. Now I kind of cringe when I see that they're the ones releasing a game I want
That’s the sentiment I’ve been seeing A LOT online over the past few months. I’ve noticed there’s a big negative connotation with Limited Run whenever someone mentions them nowadays. That’s how I felt when I heard they were distributing Yakuza Kiwami on Switch. I was hoping it would just get a standard retail release.
Sadly, I only discovered LRG about a year and a half out from what I consider the "Beginning of the End, " which was River City Girls.
It struck me as very odd when I pre-ordered a copy and it arrived like 2 weeks later right around release and I remember being a little disappointed when a few patches came out a little while after that needed to be installed. It was just like buying any other new release and not the "special" experience of getting a supposedly complete-on-cart game.
Where once I eagerly checked their site to see what old favorites or new hidden gems would be getting a physical release, I now very rarely and begrudgingly buy from them when there's a Persona 4 Golden tier release to be had.
Biggest part of LRG? You can buy games at cons they are set up at MONTHS before the ppl who bought them pre sale get them. When Persona 4 got released through them, I could pick up a standard physical copy and my friend still had to wait like months until he got his.
Yup! Part of why I only order from them if I really want to grab a release as soon as it ships. Persona 4 Golden was easy to get at PAX West so there wasn’t any point in ordering it online for me. Also games like Castlevania Dominus Collection I can easily see getting restocked at VGP or at conventions very soon.
@AquaTwist_ that's the problem tho, if i can get it at a con, why should I have to wait? It SHOULD be the other way around.
I still haven't gotten my Midnight Channel edition...
I seriously need to get an intro part in my videos. I enjoy your wii homage at the beginning each time. As much as I enjoy limited run it can be expensive. Staying in budget feels harder and harder each year. Thanks for the video! ❤
@@GamingtheOtter Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I agree, Limited Run can quickly add up in price; it’s hard to pass on certain releases from them sometimes. I appreciate you liking the Wii Homage as well, the console means a lot to me and helped me become who I am today. 🥳
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I prefer the generic mail. People suck and if it was branded people would steal it.
@@Mingodough That’s a valid point, especially for PO Boxes and such.
At least the _smart_ thing they’ve done at the very least was digital releases of _some_ of their exclusives for those who missed the window of preorder. That much I will respect
The complaints in the midsection of this video are so ridiculous. You hate that the shipping packaging doesn’t look cooler? Jesus Christ.
That’s valid, the shipping packaging is a very minor complaint in my overall thoughts of LRG. I still think they’re a great company but I wanted to point out some of the flaws of them in this video (worse than just a bubble mailer) before anything worse happens.
Decline recently? I've been hearing people complain about LRG for years.
Yes, though I’ve been noticing it more and more over the last couple of years. Especially when they started releasing digital titles and breaking the “Forever Physical” motto.
This is definitely a good topic for a video! Lots of good points here. I'm in the same boat where I haven't been too happy with a lot of what I've been seeing Limited Run do in recent times (especially that whole thing about them selling one of their 3DO game releases on burned CD-R's 😬), but at the same time they've also done so many cool things over the years that I still appreciate them. I will always be grateful that they released the SEGA Astro City Mini outside of Japan, and I really love having that in my collection.
I saw the CD-R burning while I was researching for this video and I’m surprised that isn’t a more widespread issue. Hopefully that gets resolved soon. Also thank you, I’m very glad you enjoyed this topic, I’ve been wanting to talk about it for years now.
How much was the Astro Mini by the way? That sounds incredible, I’d like to own one when I get the space for it 😂
@ If I remember correctly, the Astro City Mini was a little over $100. It’s really cool for what it is, though. The tiny controls feel good (at least for someone who has small hands like myself haha), and there are quite a few obscure gems. It’s also the first time that the arcade version of Virtua Fighter 1 has ever been ported.
I just found out about them like 3 years ago. But I do think we need to keep physical media because they already telling us we won't own games when everything digital which to be fair it does say in the fine print we are only buying a license not ownership.
Well, a physical game is also technically just a license.
Tariffs are coming soon, most people won't blow $200 on one video game that's 30 years old.
That’s why I’ve mainly been collecting for Switch and stopped collecting a lot of retro games. It’s not worth paying above MSRP for most games for me anymore, and Switch is still current enough where most of the titles I want aren’t super expensive compared to GameCube or DS.
I do appreciate Limited Run Games on paper. I very much prefer getting games physically when possible for most of the same reasons that you do, and having an option that's only available for a small period is certainly better than not getting these smaller titles physically at all. My problem is that you're essentially playing the lottery when it comes to if you get your copy in a reasonable time and how high quality it'll be. For example, I bought a copy of West of Loathing back in 2018, and due to complications with the developer getting sick among just lack of communication, that pushed production back a ton and it took my copy way too long to arrive as a result. Meanwhile, I bought Golf Story 2 months later and that arrived at my home before West of Loathing did. You also don't know if the game comes with any of the updates or DLC that the digital version already got. Sometimes they do, but sometimes they don't, and that kind of defeats some of the purpose of owning it physically. These releases can also feel like a scapegoat for some companies to just cheap out and produce less copies of their critically acclaimed titles to save on cash. I feel like Atlus could've easily printed copies of Persona 4 Golden themselves if they really wanted to. Most recently, the Yakuza releases confuse me greatly since they're just doing them on PS4 and Xbox... even though all of those games already got physical releases on the PS4 from Sega themselves, so why not just stick to Xbox and Switch, or better yet, just print copies for them in-house? Then there's also issues with the staff themselves and the morality of some of their choices, but that's a whole other can of worms entirely. I do still order from Limited Run if there's a game that really interests me that I don't already own digitally, but it's far from the most thrilling experience.
I’m still baffled they’re just reprinting Yakuza on PS4 since they already were on there before. The only benefit for this is for Xbox collectors since they weren’t on there physically before. Also 3, 4, and 5 Remeastered will presumably have their own cases like they do in Japan, unlike the normal US Remastered Collection just being 1 Physical game. Persona 4 Golden I believe was a retail on the Vita years ago, so going through LRG was odd imo. Limited Run still excites me when they have new releases sometimes, just not as much as they used to be back in the early 2020s.
As someone who has bought from LRG since the beginning, (I still have Breach and Clear Vita sealed.) I have to say, despite all their faults, they've very much been a positive influence on the gaming world. I'm a staunch supporter of physical media, and LRG have given me the chance to play many games I otherwise never would have given a look. They also helped spurn the physical indie scene, with Strictly Limited, Super Rare, Red Art Games, etc.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what other games they can bring back with the Carbon Engine. I'm not particularly keen on the current state of countless remasters as often it feels like a lazy practice, especially when the games themselves aren't even very old. (Also price gouging. We've gone from Spyro Reignited Trilogy, with 3 games in 1, to just Pac Man World 1 by itself, at the same price point. Or Sega Mega Collection with 25+ games, at a reduced price, to Sonic Origins with buggy versions of only a handful of games for standard retail price.) But the original Clock Tower never got an official English release, and there's the prospect of them reviving games that are effectively impossible to play outside of piracy, so I'm in full support of such efforts.
Agreed, Limited Run Games has been doing a lot of good in terms of game preservation lately, especially with Clock Tower Rewind and the Carbon Engine. I just wish Remasters and Ports had a more consistent quality across the entire industry and not just for a few key players.
Agreed, Limited Run Games has been doing a lot of good in terms of game preservation lately, especially with Clock Tower Rewind and the Carbon Engine. They’ve definitely pioneered a new market and we owe them a lot for that, allowing so many indie games to get physical releases. I just wish Remasters and Ports had a more consistent quality across the entire industry and not just for a few key players.
They aren't a positive influence when they are the only option for physical period. My copy of tomba is lost in limbo and they have told me I have to give it another week to even see if it ships after I got noticed on 11/2 it was shipping. There is no Japanese published equivalent so if they can't produce my copy I am going to be out of luck to add it to my collection. It's making me regret having other stuff on preorder from them
@@geoffreychauvin1474That happened to me with Quake II for Switch. It got delayed a couple months because my original copy got lost and they had to ship me a new one. Sorry to hear that happened to you, it’s frustrating this happens even though preorders take months to fulfill.
@@geoffreychauvin1474 It's unfortunate you've had a shipping issue, but I'd argue that still doesn't take away from them being a positive influence. Many of the big games companies have been trying to do away with physical copies entirely, and much of the consumer base is focused on digital as well, seeing physical gaming as a vestige of a bygone era that people need to move on from. If it weren't for Limited Run, we might never have seen the physical market (especially for indies) grow to what it is now, and many of these physical editions for games might not exist in any capacity. Them being the only option is better than that option never existing in the first place.
I bought Persona 4 Golden on the PS4 through LGR and even though it took forever (granted the consumers are told the time frames for their products) I’m honestly so happy that I have it physically now just in case something were to happen to my digital copies🙌🏼
Yes, those are some of the best games to have gotten physical releases from LRG in my opinion. They're some of the only Switch games I display, and for good reason.
I’ve only ever bought from them for the Persona 3 Portable and 4 Golden collectors editions and aside from them being delayed to an absurd degree, I don’t have any problems with them. Sucks I missed out on the Shantae GBA game. I didn’t know it went up for preorder ):
Yeah, I was debating about getting Shantae on the GBA, but I’ll just wait until the Switch version is available for preorder. I wish the Grimorie Editions for Persona 3 and 4 were better, I wanna display them more prominently in my collection if I owned them.
You think it's possible that the base physical unpatched version of lollipop for the switch could run well on the switch 2 without a patch?
Potentially, I’m unsure if it has to do with the game itself or the Switch just being underpowered. Maybe it wasn’t optimized properly?
Any thoughts on a video of the history/shutdown of Special Reserve Games?
@@ArcadeTanooki That’s a great idea, I never knew they shut down. I’ll have to do my research on them; I’m not too familiar with the company and what games they distributed.
Play asia all day for me !!!
PlayAsia is pretty solid! I’ve only used them a couple times, but there isn’t anything on there that appeals to me right now.
@AquaTwist_ if limited run had a online store maybe I would buy from them alot more.
Scott Pilgrim is a bad example considering it didn't include the dlc characters so if you want to play with them you need to buy the digital edition again. Also i would call this an example of a AAA or at least AA considering it was developed by Ubisoft
That’s a valid point. I wanted to include it more so as a game being preserved long after it was initially delisted, more than an indie game getting a physical release. It would likely fall under a AA Ubisoft release.
You don’t support way forward buying pirates curse from a scalper
@@smashmaster13 Indeed, that’s the most frustrating thing about buying physically. I want to support these developers but I want to own these games fully too.
I would love it if they released some reruns, I have missed out on a few titles because I didn't have the funds at the time.
@@hysteria2k9 100% agree, I really should’ve put that in the video. I think they’ve redistributed some titles at conventions and events, but those were a bit limited.
But yeah, AFAIK, there hasn’t been any full-blown re-releases of titles like what VGP does. Shantae and the Pirates Curse really deserves another print run IMO, especially when Shantae Advance releases.
I bought Pennywise breakaway recently. Not gonna lie I bought my brother the limited edition of Sparkster and I love it. It's sad they have those issues.
@@Bagz1994 Nice! I grabbed just a Standard Copy myself. I hope LRG resolves their issues soon.
The packaging is probably due to cutbacks. If I remember correctly they had other packaging with their name on it in the past, but printed packaging is expensive.
That's fair. I also heard about them removing trading cards from their releases to reduce costs too. Which is fair, but disappointing since some of the early LRG trading cards are incredible.
Definatly get better at delivering in shorter time and letting you know ETOA
ETOA? And yes, I really wanted to make this video shorter. Even when cutting segments I had to add new ones in (mainly the future of LRG), as I felt they were important in seeing where the company is headed for the future. But yes, I’ll try to keep commentary videos to under 10 mins from now on when possible, I could’ve condensed a lot more.
I disappointed with pre ordering contra operation guluga. I thought it’s limited run but copies appeared in VGP. I had to pay extra for shipping and import taxes but if I bought it from VGP I could have saved money
VGP buys huge stock from them, so if your in Canada it's best to just use VGP.
The nicest thing I can say about Limited Run Games is at least they're not Strictly Limited Games. SLG took my money for Puzzle Bobble Everybubble 2 years ago, missed several deadlines, and now has no new delivery estimate to offer. I should send them an invoice for the interest on the loan they took out from me. 😡 Never again. At least if I order something from Limited Run Games I can expect it to eventually ship, even if it is a crappy CD-R for the 3DO.
@@mjc0961 Damn, yeah that’s unacceptable. Good to know for the future, I won’t be ordering from SLG then.
LRG is making tons of money thanks to retailers selling less physical formats
Absolutely, The Truth of Limited Run Games video put it best: they’re more of a profit-first company rather than a preservation-first company.