Air Traffic Control Yells at Lost Pilot | ATC vs. Pilots
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- I got a lot Air Traffic Control videos sent to me, this one still blows my mind of the entitled pilot fighting with the controller.
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0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Declaring Emergency
5:16 - Airport Insight
7:43 - More Vectors
11:01 - Clear Me Through
16:09 - Pilot Roast
The pilot accidentally broadcasting their announcement to the main cabin sounds like the aviation equivalent of hitting "Reply All."
Good one!!
on the one flight i was on for my high school class trip to WA DC..... the seats had a "radio" in them
and you could set it to listen to the cockpit / atc communications
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i never heard anything interesting..... but it was my first time flying (besides playing DCS flight sim lol)
so i listened to it on take off and landing..... as it calmed me down
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if the pilots are calm and not saying "our engine is on fire" or similar...... im calm lol
@@kainhall Don't know if they do it anymore, but United used to have a channel on their in-flight entertainment system where you could listen in to the comms between the filght crew and ATC.
I find it interesting how you phrased that. It should be said the other way around, Reply all is the internet equivalent of broadcasting their announcement to the cabin over the radio. As the pilots have been doing this since long before the internet was even a thing.
Was that Kennedy Steve on Ground?😂
"Clear me through!"
"No."
"Yes!"
"Well, can't argue with that logic."
That guy is a legend on the landline facebook page. lol
If he only knew that saying "YES" one more time would have given him the clearance...
@@friedchicken1 Nah, he should have said "sudo clear me through".
@ only linux people get this joke 😂
@ 🤣
During my first hours of flying I had the benefits of flying in and out of an international airport. Wasnt too large, which was nice, but it provided me the added experience of learning effective communications and a better understanding of air traffic.
With that, I have a funny story. While flying I heard the tower ask a pilot, whom had just crossed into international airspace without permission, what his intentions were. The pilot responded “my intention is to graduate flight school, and continue on to A&P training in order to fly corporate”. The tower said “not your lifes intention, your immediate intentions! Fly heading … and get out of my airspace”. LOL. 28 years later and I still remember it like it was yesterday. Ill bet his instructor took some heat for that one.
I’m still embarrassed 28 years later for the pilot. 🤦♂️
He is probably an instructor by now, telling that story to newbies. :)
@@ticotube2501 ….he is probably a pilot by now flying us all around. 😂
Oh man that was a great belly laugh of a story.
At least he has goals?
The one kind of controller you DO NOT want to mess with is an approach controller in a Bravo (or even a Charlie). It's probably the most stressful job in aviation, and busting her airspace is gonna get you standing tall before The Man (Flight Standards District Office, or "flizzdo") every time.
Flizzdo probably REKT that guy. Hope he enjoyed that flight because it's gonna be his last one for a while.
Maybe the most stressful job in the world
Hearing "No!" "Yes!" in the context of ATC speaking with a Pilot is surprisingly entertaining to my sleep deprived brain.
Looooooooooolkk
Its nonsensely funny cuz you will expect a cooler tone and more professional wordings
So weird that I’m sleep deprived right now and experienced the same as I read your comment
I felt this
This do be a vibe
The idea that pilots troll each other over comms is honestly heart warming to me
Ditto 😂😂😂
Its pretty great 😂 I listened to it twice. I work at a warehouse as part of a sort team and it happens sometimes over our walkies or in our message chat and you can always tell when you’re gonna have a fun day when it happens
YES LMFAO
When I was in my pilot training, my supervisor pilot heard this with me and roasted one of em lmao
We do it all the time...
10:31 Tone makes a huge difference. As a student, like many, I have made plenty of mistakes. My flight school was situated on a large Airport in Charlie airspace. This guy gave the controller mixed signals and also was very rude. No surprise the controller got upset and complained about the alitude. I've once been pretty nervous and task saturated on approach. That's exactly what I told the controller. She, who was known to be rather grumpy / bossy, completely shifted attitude and actively helped to reduce my workload. Since then I always feel empowered to speak up and clearly communicate problems. I've also realized that sometimes two people have a bad day and things escalate. But it's never too late to say: "Hey man, seems like we've both gotten off on the wrong foot, my apologies, let's start over." Sometimes, even in totally escalated situations this can help. Because most of the time, the other person doesn't want confrontation either.
Nothing like feeling empowered to use your voice to communicate. It can be hard to do. Good work :)
Charlies can be pretty busy because they're always smaller than Bravos so a lot more going on in a small area.
Technically you don't get a clearance for a Charlie, but you have to be in constant contact with ATC and follow their instructions, which will invariably be "don't come anywhere near my airspace unless you're landing here."
You don't usually even want to TALK to an approach controller if you're near a Charlie or they'll start issuing vectors away and now you'll have to do what they say. 🤣. This happened to a friend of mine who thought he'd be clever and fly 500' above the PDX Charlie and asked for flight following and they're like "I don't care if you're above, GTFO of this area." 🤣
100%… Back when I was bartending I snapped at this couple who had been rather rude to me shortly after they sat down (I was busy and flustered at the time but it was still no excuse). Half way through completing the tasks I had to tend to before I went to help the couple out it dawned on me that I was being a jerk and felt awful. When I approached them again I began to apologize for getting angry when they stopped me. They informed me that they had just received some bad news and took it out on me unfairly and wanted to “start over”. I nearly started tearing up as I told them that they didn’t need to be sorry because I felt it was my responsibility to be professional and I shouldn’t have escalated the situation. We shook hands and I paid for their first round of drinks as a peace offering.
My point is, you never really know what people are going through in their lives. Sure having someone disrespecting you or being rude isn’t fun but it’s better to try to sympathize with them and start over than letting a small interaction boil over unnecessarily. It’s never too late to try again.
@@SmokeyChipOatley - That’s a beautiful story! Thank you for sharing! 🤍
That works in many situations. I was nervous giving a speech and said so. I immediately felt empathy from the audience. That calmed me down.
I'm 77 years old, not a pilot and feel I may have missed my calling, because you make all the details so easy to understand, while still interesting. Thank you for the outstanding presentation of a very challenging vocation.
I have met many older people who had the same sentiment: learning to fly, but then life/finances/kids got in the way. I guess I'm blessed because I received my PPL for free (through Royal Canadian Air Cadets Power Pilot Scholarship). And like many cadets I got a pilot's license before a driver's license. And to this day I continue flying.
@@ildart8738so this person is expressing regret about missing a calling, and your first thought is celebrating how you got to learn for free?
You can still do it! Go take some lessons, or at least a "discovery flight" and see how you like it!
@@ildart8738thank you captain one-upper. You spelled old fart wrong in your handle too.
I agree
"Let the abuse start. You can't let him get away with that." This guy roasts...
That guy (nicknamed Kennedy Steve) is pretty famous for roasting people (and being funny in general), particularly the ones who work tugs... Alas, he's had to retire from ATC, so what's on YT is all we get o-o quite a lot of clips though, so would keep you occupied for a while.
Yer but the guy is clearly stressed and worried even if done the same type of thing before alot of people still would be he didnt get 1000s of hours in a simulator and under training!
Kennedy Steve for sure
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Dude it's not that deep, he made a small mistake and people thought it was funny, he's not losing sleep about this in fact I'd wager that he found it pretty funny too
Thx for the putting the words here I couldn’t quite hear what he was saying and this just makes it 10x funnier
"Let the abuse start, come on, you can't let him get away with that"
Best line I've ever heard lol
Kennedy Steve is a legend :D
Even his jokes and other shenanigans were nothing but efficient. The best one for me is when he finished the instruction for a 777 with "caution, propwash" (the 777 had to give way to a Cessna). The pilot had a "brain.dll stopped working" error for a few seconds.
> The pilot had a "brain.dll stopped working" error for a few seconds.
If I recall, the pilot was Australian. His brain didn't stop working, he was groaning about how lame the joke was.
it was the " whats our gate number ? " that killed me
@@bogdan_n LOL, I remember listening to that one, I LMAO.
I spit my drink out laughing at “we’re children “. Married to a Pilot for 30 years and couldn’t agree more 😍🙄😂🤣
This guy is a real piece of work. I don't recall ever hearing someone that self-entitled, given the situation. And that's putting it as benignly as possible.
I know, unbelievable! Did he not get any pilot training about having to be cleared into the Bravo??
Did the pilot not understand that the controller was helping him to get down safely? I guess he'd rather be dead than be told he was wrong.
Going into Bravo airspace as a student pilot is like when your parents take you to a fancy restaurant for the first time and you have to be on your best behavior
Going into B without clearance is like crossing a major highway node while running barefoot
and then this guy was throwing a fit coz they didn't have chiccy nuggies and choccy milk
Orders a hot dog but it's not on the menu so he throws a fit.
I remember my first time as a student seeing airliners pass 1000 feet below me on final. It was certainly a different perspective on the world.
Going into Class B as a student pilot requires a specific CFI endorsement. I feel that in Class B you always need to be on your best behavior, student pilot or not. Flying in the DC SFRA is even worse...
In 35 years of airline flying, I've been told to "Call this number..." only once. And I remember the feeling to this day. Turned out to be not a big deal, but it was like seeing a cop car in your mirror with lights & siren blaring.
yeah, right. pfft
same for me. I do remember it like yesterday.
And then you swear you see them drawing their guns for a second, but it was the glair.
@@jamiesachtleben2946 Not a pilot, But I have had a cop pull a gun on me. Thats an experience I remember well, I don’t think I’ve ever stood as perfectly still as I did in that moment.
What was the occasion?
Oh my goodness. I came across this site this evening and am thoroughly entertained by Kelsey and his stories. I'm a retired USAF RN
because I love flying and I appreciate smart responsible pilots. You are the cats meow!!! God Bless You.
Thanks for the kind words and thank you for your service Maureen!!
i cant explain it but the way she says no is just *chef kiss*
"Let the abuse start" That was Kennedy Steve (JFK), now retired, arguably the most famous ground controller ever! If you want consistent ATC comedy, youtube Kennedy Steve. He is a legend.
He’s hilarious.
They won't get into much trouble
He retired 😭 I had no idea sad we won't get new Kennedy Steve soundbytes
Enjoy your retirement Kennedy Steve!!!
God I miss Steve. Best there ever was.
I lol'd at the "hard descent" part. I can just imagine this pilot sweating bullets screaming "WE'RE GOING DOWN, BRACE YOURSELVES!" and the ATC is just casually sipping on their coffee and replying cooly: "Sir, I see you're currently at 4,000 on a descent at a rate of 500/min...calm down."
@th3doorMatt I know this is a comment from a while ago but, i lol’d so hard at your comment.
You’re very descriptive, Matt. You should consider being a poet because I literally envisioned this in my brain! LOL. ❤️
So basically ATC telling you to copy down a number is equivalent to your parents saying to you "We need to talk"
Its like getting pulled over and the cops are like "step outta the car for me"
Kelsey, I appreciate the stories and information you present.
I don't fly anymore but I really miss it.
In my opinion, ATCs, in general, are pretty good to have around.
One fine flying day, I decided to go to Fort Worth for lunch. Got the flying club plane, loaded up passengers (who were student pilots) and off we went.
I was somewhere in the neighborhood of 120 flight hours at that time. Still kinda new,
but I SHOULD have been more alert to what I was seeing!!
I was talking to the FTW (Meacham) tower, I reported runway in sight, he advised clear to land.
So I proceed, fat, dumb, and happy.
He called me back and said WHERE ARE YOU GOING? TURN RIGHT HEADING 350 IMMEDIATELY!! Firmly, urgently.
I looked to the right and OMG, THERE was the runway!
I had seen and was heading for CARSWELL AIR FORCE BASE. Luckily the ATC was on the ball and got me turned, otherwise it might have been an interesting afternoon.
I told the FBO clerk I owed the ATC a cup of coffee at least, but they just laughed it off.
Another dumb rookie pilot.
That was about 40 years ago, BTW.
“I’m in bravo with no clearance because you denied my clearance” what a lovely defense lol
Lmao cause that how it works hahah
I'm betting that the "No Bravo Clearance" turkey got to speak with the FAA. I hope he got to speak with the FAA. (And I am hoping there is a recording of him speaking to the FAA.)
@@jackielinde7568 we actually listened to this in my Aviation regulations class, teacher called him a dumbass lols
That reminds me of Harrison Ford for some reason🤔
@@heidimarchant5438 lol at least presumably this guy didn’t land on the taxi way
“I have clouds above and below me”
“Yeah, you’re in the sky, welcome to being a pilot”
oh thats nice can you take picture for your jail cell wall you meatloaf
@@kalayaskitchen Meatloaf?? Loloool
Being under the weather is one of the best places you can be, if weather is everywhere, as it allows you to see.
haha
Strangely, I understood, and I've never sat up the pointy-end.
He's saying that he sees AT THIS TIME, but there's cloud below so he'll enter it and NOT see the airport then.
This reminds me of my first solo VFR flight after getting my PPL. I was in a Cessna 172, it was winter and I departed from Toronto International (now Pearson) for a small city 100 miles north. The flight was uneventful but the landing at my destination involved a strong crosswind on a runway covered with 6 inches of snow. After landing I spent an hour in the FBO then departed to return to Toronto International. The takeoff was tricky again with strong crosswind and 6 inches of snow on the runway. At about half way to Toronto at 3500 feet I was suddenly and unexpectedly in a white out of snow. As a VFR pilot this was not good but fortunately I also had a night rating which required 10 hours of hood time so I was able to maintain control of the aircraft. I did not know how long this white out would last so I immediately called Toronto that had a 30 mileTRSA and requested radar following with heading and altitude to Toronto for a landing even though I was outside the TRSA at the time. They were great giving me vectors and altitudes to the airport. I broke out of the white out into VFR conditions at about 1000 feet on a long final into Toronto International and then successfully landed and taxied to my base. This was quite an experience for a VFR pilots first flight involving IFR conditions, and I was extremely grateful for TRSA and their radar following. Although it all ended safely, it was not something I wanted to experience again.
I love how Kelsey seems to take life as he finds it and has absolutely the right temperament for the job! I love these videos where the subject of contact with ATC or other pilots is dissected - keep them coming!
12:46 ATC - "No one clears you through the bravo but me."
Pilot - "Then clear me through!"
ATC - "No."
Pilot - "Yes!"
*ATC - "You make a valid point. Clearance granted."*
I mean, that always convinces me when I tell my kids not to do something. 🤷🏼♀️😂
You have to admit though, it was worth to try. :D
lol, yeah i was like, now now childreennn ...
play nice .
@Mike Studmuffin 😂😂😂😂😂
"I strenuously object." "Oh. Well, if you strenuously object then I should take some time to reconsider."
I love it when panicking pilots tell ATC to take a deep breath 😂
LOL. Who's on the ground already ?
Kelsey, Thanks for the good laughs on this video..!! Lost my husband quite suddenly awhile back, and I haven't had too many opportunities to laugh..!! Love hearing your stories, they always keep me glued to the screen..!! I wish you Continued Safe Flying..!! If you're ever going to be at Logan Airport, I would like someday to get a chance to say "Hi" to you..!! 🙂✈️🙂
Many years ago, I was in college and two of my classmates were a married couple who had left being air traffic controllers. We shared a psych class. During a break, one went to get them coffee. It was the day the Challenger blew up. The emotional pain and physical trauma was more than I’ve ever seen . And I was an EMT! An ATC endures sooo much stress and responsibility! I have a great deal of respect for ATC.
Dang… The day my mom took me on my first flight Columbia blew up over us in ETX. I was like 9 so I probably missed alot but when we landed there were pickups loading up pieces off of the small runway. A couple hours later the national guard started showing up for recovery… so sad. We did hear a boom and everything shook like crazy. It was surreal.
Other pilots after hearing "I have a number for you to copy" : "OOOOooohhhh!"
"1NR's in troooubleee!"
@@Gilmaris Welp, he better have a second job, because he's not flying again.
F in the chat..
That pilot's bad day was going to get worse.
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Kelsey you’re my favorite 747 pilot because you’re the only one I know
Well there’s a few more out there but glad you’re enjoying the videos
@@74gear No way, everyone knows you’re the only 747 pilot.
Lol
Kelsey is my favorite because he flies both -400 and -8.
@@74gear your videos especially your air force 1 truths made me smile a lot
I feel like acting entitled up in the airspace would be an immediate do not pass go you’re done. As you said, flying in airspace is a privilege and many times these people are going to be in charge of the lives of many innocent people. People who can’t conduct themselves professionally need to be out.
I'm a Private Pilot that hasn't flown since the seventies, and I used to be an avid reader of Flying Magazine, and the funniest most memorable quote I remember from my readings was "If you want to save your famous Last Words for later, just do a 180" and get the hell out of dodge. And, yeah, Kelsey, as a Perpetually Forever Inexperienced Pilot (I even gave up motorcycling... flying has always been an expensive hobby) I'm glad you're not too hard on the kids. Really, the first thousand hours for any pilot, with balls and a sense of adventure, will encompass some pretty crazy shit, but the longer they stay alive, the smarter, and more practical, they will become, without the kind of Hostile Workplace Atmosphere that the Real Dickheads would wish to impose, seemingly to make life a painful struggle for everybody who has to listen to them. Thumbs up for your understanding.
Wow! the kid TALKED BACK to the Tower! If I had ever been kicked out of Airspace, I'd just ask for a heading, and report how many hours of fuel I have left for doing whatever kind of pattern would get me back to the ground. When I was a kid, all the Big Towers would have just sent me back to my home airfield, unless it was rained in too, but, sooner or later everybody would need to agree that the kid has to be taken into some pattern or another.
Heck, that was funny... some random pilot saying something like "Yes, the Limo is already waiting with Champaign in the Ice Bucket", but it was also kind of mean, but then again, I can see why a Commecial Pilot with an Air Line might want to stick it to one of those Kiss Ass Pilots that fly Fat Cat Private Jets... get them fired so they can take Real Flying Jobs, right?
'I have clouds above and below me'
Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes..
Speaking as a non-pilot, it sounds like the pilot is saying "for the moment I see the runway. When I go up or down, I won't see the runway".
@@davidgoldberg8238 I thank that he was meaning that he got clouds intermittently hiding the ground (cumulus for instance).
As an ex-private-pilot, if this pilot was not trained to use IFR or the plane was not equipped with proper IFR equipment, having clouds both above and below can be a deadly combo as flying VFR means you need to SEE the ground to navigate. ALSO flying through clouds can have deadly consequences in and of itself if this was a carbureted engine without a carb heater (carb ice = engine shutdown) The statement “I have clouds above and below me” sounds stupid but in reality it was something that needed to be said.
Edit: got further thru video; THIS PILOT HAD IFR EQUIPMENT BUT THE CONTROLLER REFUSED TO VECTOR HIM IN. Also the deadly combo is more for overcast above and below, not really intermittent. Also this pilot was a dick plain and simple lmaooo
@@ChilliesChinos The pilot offered an ILS approach, when did he refuse to vector him for an instrument approach?
@@jacobmccombie3445 when did he offer him ILS? I heard the pilot ask for it and the controller say no on my first watch, but I can’t remember or may have missed it edit: or I may have confused controller for pilot on my first watch
I love the “you can’t let him get away with that”
Ya was pretty fast thinking for sure
/popcorn lol
*All pilots wondering* can we?
ATC "You can't let him get away with that."
*All pilots relieved* well an order from ATC is an order from ATC.
Kennedy Steve. recognized his voice straight away!
@@jnawk83 Who else could it have been? I like to think Steve has an understudy who can step in after he retires and keep the tradition going until JFK converts into a spaceport.
“I’m not ready to copy, I’m flying” still has me rolling on the floor to this day 😂😭
That last one was super cute and funny! And your own stories of your own personal experiences were too. Thanks for sharing this content and your experiences. I always wondered what went on in the cockpits, so this is such a treat! 🧡 🙏 Thank you
Kelsey: That's what pilots are, we're children.
Me: I'll fit right in.
That's what I thaught lol
Same
Year 8 boys school.
@Steve PeirsonCenter, can you give us a ground speed check? 🤣👍
@Steve Peirson Absolutely love that one. Can read or listen to Brian Shul tell that story over and over and it never gets old! 😁 Loved your reference to it too (and that I was able to pick up on it)!
I had a student, which I had never flown before tell me that he's "The boss", and I should listen to him. Excuse me? "Yeah, I'm not sure I want to fly with you." You know something, you're absolutely right. You can reschedule with another instructor. Good day.
Congratulations! Ur roasting lvl has been increased to 999!
im dyy8ng 😂
@@JH77DAFOOL go to a hospital, thank you
Sounds like your former student is a "flight sim expert" haha. I couldn't fathom saying that to my instructor.
@@TheEric1203 the prospective student felt that since it’s his money, he should dictate how the lesson was going to go. Since I had never flown with him, I had no way of evaluating his skills until I had done at least some review. He didn’t like that. I recognized the safety implications right away.
Just found your channel and I'm loving it! I'm a private pilot and former co-owner of a 182 that did most of my flying in the Atlanta area, so I had to get good at radios fast and can appreciate a lot of the mistakes. I'm floored by the entitled pilot as well (and I can remember the one and only time I got permission to overfly the Atlanta Class B in my Cessna -- it was so cool looking down at Atlanta International and seeing the heavys landing and taking off below me!)
The "call this number" bit reminds me of the story my plane partner told me about coming back from his private pilot exam, all excited with his fresh new license. He called up the tower and told them he was inbound. They told him to call the airport in sight and he did, but it turned out that instead of KFTY (the civilian airport), he was actually inbound for the Air Force Base that was next door. He realized his mistake before entering the pattern, but not before entering their airspace. He confessed to KFTY Tower, changed course, and landed at KTFY, but while he was taxing in, he got the dreaded message from Ground that they had a number for him to call and "advise when ready to copy." He was so scared and was thinking that he was going to lose his license after having it for less than 2 hours. It turned out it was the tower controller at the air base and they just wanted to know what happened and said it was no big deal since he didn't actually land.
My father worked with a gentleman from Germany who had a pilots license. He was absolutely floored to find out that a small Cessna could enter bravo air space.
Pilot:*Makes an announcement over radio*
Other pilot: Sir, this is McDonald’s.
Airforceproud fan here
“-Let the abuse start”....
That was THE one and only Kennedy Steve!
The man, the myth, the legend
I can listen to Kennedy Steve all day long. He was supremely gifted. Amazing controller.
"Kennedy Steve" has to be the most popular controller ever!
"... c'mon, you can't let'em get away with that!"
I died laughing about this one, even though, or maybe just because I'm rather a sailor, not pilot.
I immediately felt urgent commenting on this, but you already took it.
This is SOOO hilarious! XP
@@davidcole333 And he knew when to stop joking/using slang and getting back to professional if it was necessary, e.g. when foreign pilots didn't really knew or understood english or the safety would be compromised.
"Airtraffic controllers and pilots exist on a level of professionalism and organization that we cannot ever hope to obtain in our lifetimes"
Meanwhile overhead:
I was an F-15 wingman and we were flying low over the ocean in fingertip formation when I got that Spidey feeling… I peeked at my instruments while maintaining formation and realized we were about to enter Bravo Airspace.
“Lead, 2, check airspace”
We pulled about 8 G’s turning around to get outta there!
Asking for clearance and thinking you automatically have it, seems to be the aviation equivalent of using your turning lights and assuming you have priority.
Turning what? I just steer and thats enough.
@@roichir7699 it’s those lights you use to claim parking spots.
@@alvarorivas9896 ohhh thats what those are for?
ok so beemers? yep that's right
@@roichir7699 you are a BMW driver, aren't you?
Flew with the Coast Guard for a time and the pilot talked of somebody accidentally dropping an f-bomb while awaiting their turn at the runway. Maybe behind 5 planes or so. When questioned which plane did it, each plane identified themselves and then dropped the f-bomb while denying it. “This is United 427, we did not say (f-bomb) over the airways.”
I think I heard of a story of somebody transmitting "I'm fking bored!" on the radio. Upon the ATC asking the last transmitting aircraft to say their callsign the reply was "I said I was fking bored, not fking stupid!" :)
If pilots or ATC would get very upset by the sound of the word "fuck", I would really, really, want them to get another job.
@@jeschinstad The FCC would get very upset by the sound of the word "fuck" because it's on the list of words not to be used on the air.
@@rdfox76: Right. And what is the absolute worst thing that could happen if someone said fuck? That's my point; if anyone who's listening would be traumatized or even mildly distracted by hearing the word fuck being spoken, I would want them to switch jobs. The American concept of "f-bomb", is enormously strange to me. It seems to me that an adult who would be damaged by hearing someone say fuck, would have to be severely mentally unstable.
@@jeschinstad Technically? Since it's a violation of Federal law, a fine of many thousands of dollars and having their license to transmit on the radio revoked. Historically, the FCC has taken "fleeting utterances" where the word slipped out lightly, but legally, if they want to throw the book at you for swearing over the airwaves, they can. They're not *your* airwaves, they're the government's, and you have to play by their rules. And if a bunch of old guys in Washington say that you can't say "fuck" on the air because it will stunt your growth, curve your spine, and keep America from winning the war, then that's what you've gotta live with.
Besides, I personally think there's no need to swear over the radio because someone who's clever with their words can be at *least* as vicious without swearing. After all, profanity is the last resort of an inarticulate motherfucker.
This channel should be required viewing for all flight students. Such a wealth of knowledge and wisdom that all the manuals and exams can't teach you.
Kelsey, I really appreciate your videos! I learn more about aviation from you than anywhere else. This video was riveting, as always. THANK YOU for doing these informative and educational vids!!
Everybody gangster until ATC starts talking like an auctioneer.
that wont be a rare sight in america. i swear they must have cloned eminem and put those clones in those towers.
haha yes !
Very true! 😂
“That was a great PA. Your passengers may want to hear it too.”
P.A. means "Public Anouncement" - so what anouncement could be more public than over the air? ;-)
@@deineroehre cause he's not making a PA to the intended Public.
@@barrenwizard WHOOOSH....
@@HemlockRidge LMAO....Yup!
@@deineroehre LMAO very public indeed!
Embarrassingly so, I’d say...
"Let the abuse start. Come on, you can't let him go away with that" Kennedy Steve is such a legend xD
I love this channel. Kelsey is so fun, passionate, and entertaining. He makes my day.
I'm surprised that rude pilot didn't identify with "heavy" because the huge ego on that guy must create a considerable amount of wake turbulence.
No no, he's not heavy. He's definitely super
He can potentially say: Cessna 152, heavy
@@jochenwagner2782 😆😆
Some New Yorker's are born argumentative... that is this "pilot." What a shame some people are so self-righteous and elitist they just don't know their real place in life. I hope that this accident waiting to happen had his license stripped from him for life!
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The ATTITUDE indicator in this aircraft was clearly inoperative.
The attitude indicator works, he just failed to check it.
that Attitude indicator was showing OUT of SCALE
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Also, it's nothing that an attitude adjustment couldn't rectify.
@@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294 how do you adjust your attitude indicator in imc?
I love how a pilot is in the wrong airspace potentially threatening the lives of others and his only concern was appropriate language
Pilote karen😂
Just by happenstance I tuned into your video, and stayed with it because by gosh....it and you were funny as all hell!! This was great hearing the ATC get all ticked off at the arrogant pilot, who was obviously a newby pilot with little experience and was too proud to ask for help. I think its great you explain pilot terminology to the lay-people, and what goes on behind the scenes with pilots and the ATC's. It also shows the hard job that both us pilots have, and the air traffic controllers have keeping our airways safe. I've subscribed to you, and when I have the time I'll be tuning in again! Great idea you have here.....kinda wish I'd of thought of it now that I'm thinking about it!
I will relay a story about accidently transmitting on the clearance frequency while thinking he was on the P.A. The captain made his departure announcement to the clearance delivery frequency as most pilots would on the P.A. And of course the cat calls started coming in from other pilots that were tuned in. And I note that it's a shame this one wasn't logged because the captain's response to the mockery (that he deserved) was priceless. His response, on gcd, was: "You guys get off my P.A. frequency!"
And of course that was ATC Kennedy Steve giving everyone the go ahead to roast the last pilot, classic.
Thanks brother for being so professional… it’s good to know there’s plenty of sully’s. Out there .. and not so many that panic.. love your life my friend.. you are truly a angel with wings…
Just can't get enough of these videos. Thanks Kelsey.
Two weeks ago I flew home from Austin Texas and the pilot knew I was physically disabled. He was the nicest soul. He got me to luggage claim which we had to go on a tram for then got me safely to my mom. I’m an adult but he didn’t want anyone taking advantage of me and he knew I had a Port in my chest and a lot of medical things that could go wrong. That pilot was my hero
Wow! The PILOT did all that?!?
I hope that pilot has some good karma from that.
my kids like to fly by themselves--you hand them off to the flight attendant and they hand them off to another at arrival--on one flight a off duty pilot took over and took them in up front,showed them around and took them to gate where ride was waiting--this was 30 years ago or so,different world then
@@dethray1000 somebody was missing family I bet.
@@dethray1000 I grew up being flown between parents on the east and west coast twice a year, and I feel so bad that most kids will miss out on that today.
I remember some absolutely ANGELIC flight crews taking me up, even when I was still too young to fly alone and my mother was holding me.
I love how atc doesn't even join in. All the pilots are like itching to start destroying this dude and act is like "Sure lets do it". Thanks for everything Kelsey
The ATC is the mob boss. He has people to do his dirty work for him. :D
It's kind of disturbing knowing that there are entitled pilots which will argue when they are in the wrong. Planes can end up crashing into each other doing that and falling to the ground. It isn't like just crashing your car a bit and scraping up the sides while making gestures out the windows.
Spending $10,000 to do all the training to get a private recreational pilots licence just to argue and then lose it isn't my idea of fun.
Yeah, very strange
You're right of course, but it's worth pointing out that it is actually much harder to hit something in 3D space (flying in the air) than in 2D space (driving on the ground). For example, in 2D space, any pair of straight lines that are not parallel must cross each other, but that's not true in 3D. If you have a bunch of people heading in random directions in a 3D space, they're _much_ less likely to hit than people heading in random directions in 2D space. But, still, don't enter a class bravo without permission, and don't argue with ATC. 😆
@@beeble2003 You drive in 2D? that's so cool
@@dengueberries I dunno... doing jumps and stuff seems way cooler.
@@beeble2003 cool story, bro, but when you are near an airport, it is really easy to hit other planes when they are all vectoring similarly.
So far I have only experienced extremely helpful ATC. Interestingly on my first cross country (with an instructor), we got cleared into the B without requesting. our Airport is a D under a B shelf and it was basically just climbing into the shelf and leaving. They really made our job easy.
"Clear me through!" "No!" Had me in stitches.
LOLOL
As a controller I really appreciate how objective you are when listening to pilot and controller. Surprising how little bias I hear from you when evaluation these interactions. Good on you!
Big respect to ATC. Sounds like such a stressful job
He's a good bugger probably more suited to a new era in politics (Quite a segway lol) anyway Thank you so much for your comment Blake, you air traffic controllers are amazing. Just the responsibility is incredible I think you are super cool. Nice comment,
Respect to all controllers. Without you, no one flies!!🙏
Pilot here. Hey, we all have a job to do, and the easier I make your job, the easier you make mine. Hell, I might even let you sit in the left seat and make airplane noises if you're really nice. lol...
Just a passenger here, wanting to thank all ATCs and pilots for keeping us all as safe as possible. Both sides do a technically and professionally challenging job and we really appreciate it.
Kelsey, I've totally enjoyed finding your channel. Awesome stuff.
Hi Kelsey, been an ATC for 47 years. Wish there were more of your kind on the radio....training the youngsters the correct procedures. Well done Sir!
Who is dumb enough to enter a major flight air space without clearance? Like there are GIANT planes going through!
Someone about to receive a less than friendly call from the FAA, that's who.
@@cameraman502 ...I don't have time to take down a number.....!!
@@stephenc2481 😏😉
@stephenc2481 'Don't worry, I'll give them yours, got it right here' -ATC
Hearing these pilots and controllers get attitudes on the air is surprising to me. As a former State Trooper, if you ever even sounded like you were about to get an attitude on the radio, you’d be getting a phone call from the captain in about ten seconds.
Military wannabe mentality
State troopers sure have an attitude off radio.
@@realitycheck908state police in the US
The attitude isn't supposed to be there. I've heard controllers and pilots inject unnecessary emotion into the situation that gets in the way of the task, and it always sticks out to me.
You just use the attitude on citizens/spouses instead
I love this interaction. I've grown up in Hawaii and once you hear the "ey you know what?" Good luck gettin on the ground bra.
ATC: "DO THE WORDS PILOT DEVIATION MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU?!"
Pilot: "What's that? Some kind of award?"
Leg Lamp Statue
@@peppermintcatsass3141 warning 500.
The bravo airspace one is just a classic. I almost respect how brazen the guy is with that "negative".
He's just a clueless, entitled prick endangering others with his warped perception of what the world owes him and what not (in my view).
This is someone who has never had any consequences.
ATC: leave
Pilot: don't tell me what to do
lol
Followed by the baffled reaction of the ATC
Sadly, i dont think he flew again. Violationg bravo and not leaving when told to is going to be a kiss your pilot licence goodbye
I have been watching for the first time 3 hours-thank you for such clear explanations-your a great instructor-I’d love to see you do a book!
Love your clear explanations, it helps me understand why traffic controllers say what they say to help pilots land safely
I hope the guy who entered bravo airspace without clearance had his pilot license revoked. He clearly can't listen to instructions therefore putting hundreds of peoples lives at risk.
His name is Jeff.
@@sludge8506 Ouch
Yeah - I hope the FAA was waiting for him wherever he landed and had a nice "chat" with him, and suspended his license for a few months.
What a dick. Guys like that give the rest of us who fly Gen. Aviation a bad name.
probably won't revoke on a first offense because there wasn't an incident, but a suspension with a directive for remedial training is highly likely, yes
@@herestoyoudoc He lucked out and didn’t get suspended. But he also was very sorry.
atc holds your head against the tarmac
"do you see the airport yet?"
"no :D"
Hahah
That's what happens when you don't want visual approach
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Great analysis.
Such a fantastic channel, Kelsey. 🙏
I just discovered your channel this week and have been watching a lot of your videos, I think ATC vs. pilot is my favourite.
I don't know a lot about planes, I like flying as a passenger, I hate landing cause my ears hurt a lot. But I'm learning a lot from your videos
"What was the temperature again" cracked me up 😂
ATC for over 32 years. *in my best pirate voice* - "On Gaaaarrrrrrd!"
I always wondered if it was you guys saying it not us 😂
Recall listening to a conversation between one of you guys at ORD and a cargo heavy from one of the major European carriers....the freight dog wanted direct clearance to SFO. ORD told him he couldn’t have it. So the heavy asks again, gets denied again and then tells him that he’s already checked the weather and it’s fine....then the top of the controller’s head blew off and he screamed “ you can’t talk to me about that! You need to talk to somebody else....but you’re going to St. Louis!” I guess in Europe flag carriers have more pull than they do over here....
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My instructor in a&p school used your ils video to teach us about those systems, and man was it the most useful thing!
That JFK Ground controller sounded exactly like "Kennedy Steve" (now retired) who was a famous controller - always VERY entertaining!
That second pilot has no business flying with that attitude.
I was confused why you said "altitude" smh...
There's another video on here somewhere with the recording of the phone call he made to LAS after he landed.
@@blind_aviator if anyone has a link to that I’d love to see it 🙂
@@blind_aviator Do you know where that video is?
He should have been arrested!
Love the video. As a retired street cop, I can relate to being roasted on air. And I've dealt my share. As a private pilot, I can't even imagine talking back to ATC. Wow! I would loved to have been a fly in the room when he met with the FAA.
Kind of like telling Dispatch, "I'll call the WC when I am damn ready to call the W-C." (Multiple sounds of mic-clicking)
Thank you for your service Michael!
You lose your license for that?
@@randomvintagefilm273 Lickin' the boot .
Some people just don't understand the seriousness of following air traffic controller's instruction. Ban from flying, right away!
I’ve been watching your vids and love them. Thank you. You have a great attitude and I love the flying is a privilege not a right. ❤
I’ve enjoyed this video so very much, it made me smile & I needed that😄Thank You!!
"Let The Abuse Start"
I'm going with this at the end of every Teams meeting presentation from now on.
You never want to hear "Call the tower" after you land. That guy that busted the Class B space should have known better.
Could a pilot be arrested for that? He endangered the whole airspace.
@@jackeppington6488 I've never heard of that happening. Local authorities don't have any jurisdiction there and I unless it's really egregious he will probably just get called to the carpet by the FAA and maybe a suspension. If you bust into say, a TFR zone then you could get a visit from a Blackhawk helicopter off your wing. That's a REALLY bad day.
@Albert Felsen He said that he had requested clearance, which means that he knew damn well that he was flying into bravo airspace. But without clearance.
Thanks for the laugh amid the info. Hope you do more of these.
I found you by accident and now im hooked, you explain aviation so well.
I fly aerial survey in a PA-27 and was working in Utah a couple months ago, after landing I was given a number to call.
ATC: "Do you know what you did wrong?"
Me: "No."
ATC: "Nothing, we just wanted to know how much longer you are going to be working in the area."
Scared the hell out of me.
Atc trolling you lol
PA27? Aztec?
@@smokingspitfire1197 Yes.
Damn
ATC owes you a beer after work for that!
18:53 "That's just kind of who pilots are . . . we're children." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
This is why I love this channel.
yes
Thanks so much for making these communications more clear for the inexperienced like myself. The pilot demanding access to Bravo space was like a toenail demanding that the heart obey, lol
And without skipping a beat "Kennedy Steve" jumps in to make everyone have a good laugh....
"They're in Hawaii, relax bro!" love it...
relax brotha man
It was funny when Harrison Ford was told to call the “number” when he landed on Taxiway C at John Wayne instead of Runway 20L, he was very humble and embarrassed !
Yes, he even said he was the "schmuck" that landed on the taxiway by mistake if I remember right.
I'll never forget that convo 😂
I remember he flew over the plane waiting to enter the runway and he said "Is that plane suppose to be there?"
He shouldn’t be flying who lands on a taxi way?
@@leroyjones7295 Apparently, that taxiway used to be a runway. And Harrison Ford is not the first who confuse it for runway. That's why the controller there is very lenient.
Thanks! Enjoyed this a lot.
Way back in the middle of the last century, my dad's job (at ICAO) was training pilots and air traffic controllers to "speak" to each other. I was too young to really get into it but do remember listening on shortwave as my dad commented. Brings back good memories.
"take a deep breath." perfect projection.
"Not ready to copy, I'm flying" 😂