DDR4 3000 Mhz (CL14 vs CL15 vs CL16 vs CL18 vs CL20) in Assassin's Creed Origins
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2020
- Assassin's Creed Origins (2017)
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This is a really good benchmark video. I'm very glad that you put the detailed memory timings information up - it's important information, but most RAM benchmarking videos leave it out.
thank you my friend
There are other similar videos on the channel ruclips.net/p/PLNBEBHnTQ4sk_fPFXNKQP0z94jHPNJOVn
Hi , i'm confused on buying an adata or teamgroup 8gb ddr4 3200mhz cl22 or something like ballistick , corsair , xpg... 8gb ddr4 3200mhz cl16. Although , the price difference is about 25 - 30 $ , and my pc specs are i3-12100 , h610 (does not support ram overclocking). What do you recommend ?
ballistick 8gb ddr4 3200mhz cl16
Hi! geil Orion 3200 CL 16 , viper steel 3600 CL 18 and viper steel 3600 RGB CL 20. Which one is better? i'm planning to buy 2 x 16 of them. (all are the same price)
I would take viper steel 3600 CL 18
Would I feel difference if I change from 16GB DD4, 3200mhz single-channel with 22 cl to same but with dual channel and 16cl ??
If the GPU is not the bottleneck then 2 Channels will be much better
The lower the timings the better. But much more important are two channels and the amount of RAM, the second is the frequency of the RAM. The last one is the timings.
ruclips.net/video/hV5dnvaict4/видео.html
I have a Ryzen 5 3400g and im using its Vega 11 graphics. I bought 32gb(2x16) of 3200mhz cl20 ram and want to replace it with 32gb(2x16) of 3200mhz cl18 ram. Will there be a difference in performance?
there will be a small increase. but you are unlikely to notice this as the GPU will be the bottleneck.
Try to lower the timings on the current RAM modules
ruclips.net/video/5RWx1M-Eaxs/видео.html
@Karakaš the difference is insignificant
yo what do you think about vengance rgb рro cl15 3200mhz vs vengance рro sl cl16 3200mhz, the sl version had better shaрe in my oрinion and it a lil bit smaller in height also it had like some hologram kinda thing on the ram sticker which is kinda cool, while the other one had huge intrusion on the led and a bit bigger in size and just рlain ram sticker. What do you think better tho?
vengeance rgb pro cl15 3200mhz - better
But I would take G.Skill DDR4 4000MHz Ripjaws V Black (F4-4000C18D-16GVK)
@@neochannelbenchmark but they had like cl18, is it worth it getting mooore frequency with higher cache latency tho?
Only if the Motherboard supports it though
hi I have 2x8 adata spectrix D60g 3200mhz in the box it says they can run CL16-20-20-38 with xmp but since I have a b460 and an i5 10400 the max speed is 2666mhz I did tighten the timings to 14-16-16-35 and found no errors with 1 loop of memtest64 test but I'm worried if that will effect the lifespan of the ram or cause performance issues later?
ps: I didn't touch any voltage settings
Hi.
If you don't increase the voltage, nothing will happen to the RAM.
@@neochannelbenchmark thanks! :)
@@goldenwings1655 My pleasure
so timing doesn't matter after all!!
thank you
Lower timings are better, but the boost from this is minimal.
ruclips.net/p/PLNBEBHnTQ4sk_fPFXNKQP0z94jHPNJOVn
Please note that this is about Intel.
@@neochannelbenchmark Yes i watch and i see it's like 3*5 fps avg
not that much!!!
@@moslem8656 If the price difference is small, it is better to take a RAM with a higher frequency.
ruclips.net/p/PLNBEBHnTQ4snp4M-aiuH4y-NG33tWHjCp
i got a cl18 for not knowing about latency, the cl16 is for the same price. I haven't received the ram yet, do you think it's worth it I return it and get a cl16?
bruh the fps difference is soooooo low that I personally don't think that you should return it and buy a lower latency ram.
the frequency of RAM and the amount of memory are much more important.
Timings have little effect, at least on Intel.
Thanks for the video🙏🙏. Do you mind make a comparison with DDR4 3200MHz CL22 (normal RAM) vs 3200 CL16 ?
Would like to see how is the difference.
I would gladly do it.
But now I don't have that PC. The war destroyed everything (.
@@neochannelbenchmarksorry to hear it. I hope everything is better now
I want to buy Patriot Signature Line ddr4 64gb(2x32) 3200mhz CL22 because it's bigger n cheaper. Is the performance have a big gap with other mem with 3200mhz CL18 ?
There is no need to buy 64GB of RAM for gaming.
16GB is enough for now. Better to buy 16 or 32 GB with low timings and high frequency.
If you need 64 GB of RAM to work, then the timing will not greatly affect the speed.
@@neochannelbenchmark thank you for the quick reply!
Yes It's for game and also for work as I'm a 3d game environment artist needs more RAM to work some big file & heavy processing task.
@@kaizendigital_id lol if you're using it outside of gaming then CAS latency and speed matters even more. CL22?? That's bad in any case really lol that's like first gen ddr4 dimms. You'd greatly benefit with cl14 ram, with cl15-18 being a sweet spot. The lower the better, the higher the MHz the better. If you had 64gb of cl14 Samsung b-die you could push a 3200 kit to 4000+ and more easily without going above cl16. You'd do good by getting into ram overclocking.
Hello, I just bought Patriot Viper Elite II 32Gb (4x8gb) because it was really really cheap.
2x 8gb corsair 3200mhz cl16 ram price == 4x 8gb patriot 3600mhz cl20 ram price.
It's acceptable or should i sell / return it? I'm waiting shipment didnt tested yet but my mobo says max ram freq 3400oc. maybe i use 3200mhz with lower cl possible.. thanks for video.
The lower the timings, the better. Most 3600 MHz kits now have CL18/
It all depends on the price of the kit.
Remember guys. Dont buy the 3200mhz stick. You ALWAYS can overclock your ram. I have Hynix 8gbx2 = 16gb 2166mhz CL14. And i overclocked this 2800;MHz, CL13!!!!. I recommend you to buyt 2666MHz-2800MHz CL14-16 and overclock it to 3200- 3400+ if you want to. And keep the lowest cl rate, just ramp up dram voltage. You can safely overclock over 0.1500 volts your ram, without nothing happening. Even the temperatures are same. But i dont suggest over 0.200 voltage overclocks, because then it COULD damage your memory. It probably doesn'y but better safe than sorry. I had 1.2v -2166mhz CL14 now 1.300v 2800MHz CL13 :)
I have been overclocking over ~10 years so don't worry, you can safely use my advice.
And nice video bro. I was going to do this but searched on youtube and you did it first :D
it makes no sense to buy rams at 2666 MHz if the price for 3200 MHz is the same or a couple of bucks higher. It's better to take 3200 MHz right away and not overclock.
@@neochannelbenchmark some quality rams has 20-30€ difference between 2666 and 3600
@@Oscarr_Official In my city you can buy both 2666 and 3200-3600 MHz for the same price.
@@neochannelbenchmark "It's better to take 3200 MHz away and not overclock". What U think XMP is?
I prefer to save up some money and buy another thing.
I will rather buy 3200 mhz ram directly than doing all these stuff
Hi, witch ram do you recommend me: 2x16gb 2666mhz cl16 or 2x16gb 3200mhz(will operate maximum 2933mhz) cl20? It's mobile ram, to run with i9 10980hk.
I'm considering the 3200mhz ram. The performance will be fine more or equal than 2666mhz? I'll not use to play games, just to video and image editing, some 3d rendering.
@@jacksonsena_you won't notice the difference between 2666 and 2933 if you don't play games.
If the price difference is not significant, it is better to take 3200 MHz. For example BL2K16G32C16S4B working at 2933 MHz Timings will be even lower.
@@neochannelbenchmark thank you for answering!
@@jacksonsena_ no problem
Soooo... This got me worried. I pulled one of two, 4gig CL11 ram cards out of my laptop, and stuck in a 16gig CL22. All other stats about them are practically identical other than the size and CL... Does this mean I made it... slightly more sluggish?
What GPU do you have in your laptop?
I have the AMD Ryzen 4000 5 series gpu. Unless my laptop says different on the inside. I've looked at other RAM sticks by Kingston that say will boost my laptop performance which is designed for my AMD Ryzen. Is that right or should I do a bit more digging?
Hey! I have a ryzen 5 3500+ gtx 1660 super
16gb kingston ram (8x2) @3200mhz CL22
and will be buying 3000mhz cl15!! I compared my fps in game to that of youtubers who had the same card and i see that they are getting 20fps avg more than me! Could my ram be the main culprit here?
Lower timings are better. But a higher frequency is just as good.
Crucial DDR4 16GB 2x8GB 3200MHz Ballistix Black (BL2K8G32C16U4B) have SL16 timings and the price is not much higher.
in intel cpu you need higher frecuency and in amd cpu you need lower timing
@@fthmubarok isnt it opposite? Coz ryzen need higher frequency for infinity fabric bus. While intel dont give a fuk about frequency if u have good timings.
@@serraxer Yes this
Ihave 3200mhz cl16 ram. It can only reach 3333mhz on cl16 when overclock. But on cl18 i can overclock it up to 3800mhz. Which one is better. I also tried cl15 which works in loosen the timings. Its runnung on 3333mhz
performance gain may be negligible above 3000 MHz
ruclips.net/video/zhL9jJ2JeKo/видео.html
3000-3200 MHz is still enough for most games.
@@user-sd7ms3sy9q at 3000 MHz and higher, the difference is not significant.
That's odd man how does your cl20 score higher than the cl15 with a lower average frame rate?
with the CL20 the least number of frames.
in general, the difference is not very big. Between CL14 - СL18 the difference is not more than observational error...
@@neochannelbenchmark cool to know
I just bought a 16gb 2666 mhz cl18, but short after found out that there was another company that sold 2666 mhz cl15 for the same price, is it worth it to change the ram with a low end graphics card like a 1050 Ti
Your video card will be a bottleneck.
The influence of timings will not be noticeable.
You can also try to lower the timings in the BIOS yourself, if the motherboard supports it.
Hi, it's been a year, have you upgraded that graphics card?
i would love to find a video like this but benchmarking csgo i have 3000mhz cl19 ram and i wanted to lower the timing but i dont know how to do it and if it has risk to break anything in the pc
when changing timings and frequencies, nothing bad will happen. The maximum that can happen is not to start the system. This is easily fixed by resetting the BIOS.
@@neochannelbenchmark thanks. 🇧🇷
These two I've shortlisted for my laptop's ram upgrade which one do you suggest?
HyperX 16GB 3200 20 22 22 1.2V
vs
HyperX 16GB 2933 17 19 19 1.2V
PS :
CPU: i7-10750H (max supported till 2933MHz but my stock came with 8GB 3200MHz but is now downed automatically at 2933MHz CL 21-22)
Motherboard: Doesn't support XMP
take HyperX 16GB 2933 17 19 19 1.2V
they will definitely work at the stated timings www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX429S17IB2_8.pdf
HyperX 16GB 3200 at 2933 (XMP Profile # 2: DDR4-2933 CL17-19-19), while JEDEC may have slightly higher timings ...
I have the same kit 3000@cl16-18-18-38, i want to buy patriot elite 4000@cl20 for my ryzen 5600x... Do you think I get better fps for dota 2 1080p@120fps ...?or I need more mhz with the same cl16? Help me please
What is your GPU?
@@neochannelbenchmark Rx 6800 ashrock phantom gaming oc
@@S3ThOt You must have an FPS cap...
Is vertical sync disabled?
enter command in console
fps_max 400
Will I experience better performance by swapping CL22 for CL20? In shooting and tekken games, 1 ms more is already an advantage. How much better?
RAM frequency is more important than timings.
It's difficult to answer anything about FPS in games. It all depends on your CPU and GPU. If your GPU is the bottleneck then the CPU and RAM may not have much of an impact...
@@neochannelbenchmark It's a DEll G15 5515 Ryzen 7 5800H Rtx3060
@@user-cq9wg2hc7i Most laptop RAM is CL22 or CL20 for 3200 MHz. With lower timings, RAM is unreasonably expensive.
Don't worry about timings on your laptop.
You better replace the memory from 16 GB to 32 GB
Is it a problem if one ram stick is cl22 and the other cl16?
both RAM stick will work automatically at higher timings.
But it is better to have identical modules.
@@neochannelbenchmark is 3200mhz cl 20 ram bad? Or is it good for gaming 2021
Its such a big confusion, someone please help me
Im searching for RAM for my laptop
Asus ROG strix g15
Ryzen 7 5800H
RTX 3070 (115w)
Basic Samsung ram 16gb, 3200 mhz (idk which CL that is)
Now my question is which RAM should i go for
Hyperx impact hx432s20ib2, 16x2, 3200 mhz, CL20
Or
HyperX HX432S20IBK2 , 16x2 , 3200 mhz , CL15?
The price difference between the two is huge (Australian prices are a bit high idk why)
But im willing to spend if its worth it....or if any one of you know a better RAM than these two, please do recommend. Unfortunately, I literally have 0 knowledge in this field.
Please help me out, thanks!
There is a difference, but it is not worth the overpayment.
It is better to take 3200 CL20 and replace it in the future when the memory of 3600-4000 MHz appears. The gain from a higher frequency is much higher than from timings.
@@neochannelbenchmark oh god its the man himself, thank you so much for the reply!
I'm gonna go with CL 20 3200 mhz for now.
Thanks again!
Bro is 16×2 cl22 Mhz 3200 is good for amd ryzen 5 5500 and rx 6700 xt ?
these are a bit more expensive but better
G.Skill DDR4 32GB 2x16GB 3600MHz Ripjaws V Black (F4-3600C18D-32GVK)
@@neochannelbenchmark Patriot Viper Blackout/DDR4/32GB/3200MHz/CL16/2x16GB/Black is this good?
@@user-tw5ht2ns3h this is a good option. But it could be even better.
See RAM 3600 MHz, their price may be slightly higher than 3200 MHz.
@@neochannelbenchmark okay thank u so much 💕
which is better ram
3200mhz CL16 ?
or
3000mhz CL15 ?
3200mhz CL16
Is 3200 MHz CL20 good?
Should I wait for ddr5 ram???
@@moahmedhashim9881 It is not yet known how big the performance gain from DDR5 will be. It may not be very big. And the price can be much higher than DDR4
Can someone help me. I want to buy new ram. Which is better? 3200mhz cl20 or 3200mhz cl16? I'm using amd ryzen
Hi.
3200mhz cl16 - better
but even better 3600MHz cl16 Ballistix Red (BL8G36C16U4R)
@@neochannelbenchmark omg it's the neo channel himself. Thanks for your recommendation man. I appreciate it. I have check the crucial ballistix ram but unfortunately it's not avaible in my country market and i also do some double check on Amazon and it's far from my budget. So i'm want to ask for your opinion. It's is ok if i buy Kingston hyperX fury ddr4 3200mhz cl20 for my laptop? Is it worth it? If it not worth it can you recommend me the cheaper subtitute for the ballistix ram? Sorry for asking too much question. I'm very dumb in this matter. Btw i'm gonna sub to you
@@john-dw4zc you did not specify that RAM is needed for a laptop... I answered RAM for a desktop.
SO-DIMM can also be taken with СL 20 You will hardly notice the difference on a laptop.
On the desktop, the difference is more significant and the prices for the ram are lower.
@@neochannelbenchmarkOoowww ok... thanks for the info. I will buying the cl20 because its way more cheaper just like you say and the difference also is very minimal. Thanks for helping me
04:12 stuttering at CL20
low CL less stuttering
thank you
This is more likely due to loading from the HDD...
I don't get it , is there supposed to be a difference? Everything appears to be within margin of error. Why bother spending extra for premium ram.
This is the result in this game. In other games and tasks, the result may be different.
Also, on AMD platforms, it may be better to use a low CL.
@@neochannelbenchmark CPU OR GPU ??
@@kinddragon313 what do you mean exactly?
cl 16 8gb or cl22 8gb which is best??
what frequency?
3200 mhz cl 16 or 3000 mhz cl 15 ?
which?
3200 mhz cl 16
@@neochannelbenchmark thank you
Generally how much fps gain if I change 16gb(8×2) ddr4 3200 cl 22 to 16gb(8×2) ddr4 3200 cl 16
CL16 is better than CL22 but it makes no sense, the difference between them is negligible
If you want to get an FPS boost, then RAM is better with a higher frequency of 3600 - 4000 MHz and higher.
Or increase the size of the RAM to 32 GB (4 x 8 GB)
@@neochannelbenchmark Thanks so please tell me, I built new pc with ryzen 5600g but I get 20fps drop in every game from others with same specs only difference I have is cl 22 ram and yes only 60hz monitor
@@mainakdas4657 what discrete GPU do you have? If there is...
Are the game files on the SSD?
@@neochannelbenchmark vega 7 inbuilt GPU and yes install all games in ssd
@@mainakdas4657 vega 7 is a weak GPU. It is twice as bad as 1050Ti. For gaming, you need a discrete GPU. You will have more free RAM and games will work much better.
no one does cl17 test anymore
CL17 - something in between CL16 and 18
As you can see, the difference between CL 16 and 18 is not significant.
3600 mhz cl18 или 3200 mhz cl14
?
3600 mhz CL 18-19
3200 cl14 you can incrase mhz in bios
@@eksdi19 так Cl же дропнет все равно в итоге до тех же 18
@@neochannelbenchmark Блин покупаю связку 10400f, материнка MSI H410M PRO-VH и оператива там Samsung M378A1K43EB2-CVF cl21, так вот есть смысл брать другую оперативку, так как глянул, полно в продаже с cl15, cl16 по такой же цене.
@@memberoid все зависит от видяхи что будет в этом конфиге.
lower is better ?
lower timings are better. But the difference may be small
@@neochannelbenchmark thank you
@@neochannelbenchmark i bought 2x8gb 2666mhz cl18 hp v6. They will work good with core i5 9400f + gtx 1660 super oc? Or should i buy CL 16? Is that really necesary?
@@hanselleonardoperalta7290 Between SL16 and SL18 the difference is not very big.
The frequency of RAM is more important than timings. ruclips.net/p/PLNBEBHnTQ4snp4M-aiuH4y-NG33tWHjCp
In most games, your video card will be a bottleneck and you will not notice the effect of RAM timings.
@@hanselleonardoperalta7290 no
У моего друга 12100f и 3200 mhz, CL22
На Интел тайминги не так критичны как амд. У многих, скорее все упреться в видяху чем проц и память
Хотя смысл брать 22 тайминги при той же цене модулей с 16 нет смысла...
надо было на сл 20 еще и на ультрах прогнать чючють
На ульрах сплошной упор в видчху. Разница будет такая же или меньше.
Может в будущем добавлю прог на ультрах, пока, что Это тестовый видос...
H
looks the same lol
why is that?
@@neochannelbenchmark ?
@@Ayzesh1868 why lol ?
Hi, I recently bought Dominator Platinum 32gb 3600Mhz (8x4 CL18)
SKU: CMT32GX4M4C3600C18
I'm afraid I made a wrong purchase, could it limit performance?
I am a very competitive person, I am about to buy a 1440p 240hz monitor and I dont want have any problems..
Here are all the specifications of my pc:
Case: Rog Helios
MainBoard: Rog Strix x570-E
PSU: Rog Thor 850w
GPU: 1060 zotac 3gb (I'm waiting for the Rog Strix 3080Ti)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5900x Overclocked 4.6Ghz
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32gb (8x4 CL18)
SSD: 1tb Sabrent 4.0
Liquid Cooler: NZXT z73
Fans: Corsair QL120 / QL140
could you tell me what you advise me to do?
sorry for my bad english btw
Hi.
The difference between SL 18 and SL16 is small.
You can try lowering the timings or raising the frequency. In this case, you need to raise the voltage.
You can use the Ryzen DRAM Calculator to find timings.
@@neochannelbenchmark I'm not an expert on these things, is it risky? Could I cause damage or is it sure it works?