I usually can't stand theories that state that Rose is alive, since they always feel like they're written by people in denial. But there's something... different about this theory. Something that feels like something that could actually happen in the EP universe. After all, Jackdaw was able to fake his death with the help of Rose, and maybe this is Rose's "reward" of some sorts for just wanting to do the right thing throughout the story. Edit: This would also give Falcon a personality of his own, rather than just being the same character as Wren. (Personality wise).
@@SkiggsMoDiggs TBH I think that freelancer may have survived then died which would explain the killhouse nightmare thing also I think he survived because of the doors on the elevator which look like heavy doors that might be able to deflect an explosive
If this theory is true than cish really wasnt lying when he said years ago that he would never kill Rose and that he had that all planned out from the start. Story telling genius
Quick add-on theory that I just thought of: So you know how it’s basically confirmed a while back that the killhouse and subsequently the nightmare aren’t real due to the mission date being after the Freelancer’s death, and how this caused a whole bunch of theories about how after the Freelancer and Rose’s deaths they get stuck in this eternal loop of completing the killhouse. Well what if they were right, but just had the wrong context. The killhouse loop is Rose’s dreams after she fakes her death. It explains why she still has dialogue, why the nightmare assault is called a nightmare, and doesn’t leave any gaps that the death loop theory covered (ex: Rose’s line about how it shouldn’t have ended “this way” still makes sense under both theories). Just some food for thought
Ever since the scientist was released , every time i knock/kill falcon i always thought to myself no there's gotta more about him than him just being a normal NPC , i know about his backstory in the steel cove and he is the one who assasinate rose but this even make more sense , now every time i knock/kill falcon i feel really bad for him , i wish cish give us the choice to bring him with us instead of just knock/kill him because who knows maybe bring him with us could change the ending of entry point.
Pretty great theory for the most part. Definitely fills a bunch of holes and has solid enough foundations to it, although I do think there's one contradiction worth noting: At the bottom of the Scientist's lock code, you get a few lines where Falcon states his ID and tells Halcyon that Rose is dead. Falcon and Rose would've planned all this out in this scenario, scripted what they'd say, yet Falcon (who would know Jackdaw can hear him) lets Jackdaw hear his ID, and in doing so puts a huge target on his back, which just seems careless to me. Like he knows Jackdaw's the kind of guy to hold grudges, yet he carelessly makes Jackdaw think that he killed Rose, and therefore makes Jackdaw come after him. It's not like it was required that he let Jackdaw hear this either. It would've been easy for Falcon to just dispose of the phone, then make the call to Halcyon saying Rose is dead, and Jackdaw never would've known Falcon "killed" Rose. It doesn't sit right with me that Falcon and Rose would've come up with this good a plan, and then stupidly screw it up at the last moment and leave evidence that would make Jackdaw specifically go after Falcon, the person who he believes has killed Rose. With all this, right now I think the assumed story is more likely - that Rose, being chased by Falcon, saves the Freelancer with her last breaths. That being said, I can't deny that a lot of the evidence shown in this video is strong and suggests Falcon helped Rose in some way. I think maybe there's another story here, different from this theory and the previously assumed theory that wouldn't have any contradictions to it. One idea I had is that Falcon does kill Rose for betraying Halcyon, but lets her save the Freelancer, who is about to be executed despite doing nothing wrong, but that's just speculation. There's some more evidence about the contradiction that I've cut for brevity, and if you'd like to talk to me at all about that evidence or anything I've said here, my disc is Captain Midnight#0245. TL;DR If this video is all correct, it wouldn't make any sense in the Scientist lock code for Falcon to say his ID of OC-7 while Rose's phone call to Jackdaw is still active, as this would lead Jackdaw to specifically target Falcon as he believes Falcon has killed Rose.
very good argument! some counterpoints: a) i feel like falcon would HAVE to say his id number for real authenticity, doing otherwise might be suspicious for halcyon ops b) given how halcyon is falcon's last resort, and he felt morally starved enough that he would resort to treason to help somebody, i feel like he would see death as a worthy consequence for this
@@SkiggsMoDiggs a is absolutely true, but i don't think there's any reason that falcon couldn't just dispose of the phone first, then make the call in to Halcyon. b is a fair point, but it's a pretty convoluted way to commit suicide. I know you can't really show or talk about suicide in roblox games, but it's still stretching it a bit.
This makes the end for EP way more twisted. Freelancer agreed with Jackdaw for revenge for Rose since Rose "died", (Jackdaw was already being manipulative with the Freelancer) but this theory suggests otherwise. The Freelancer died for a reason which wasn't even his at this point, it was Jackdaw who just used him, even if Jackdaw didn't know about Rose being alive, his intentions with using Rose's death are clear.
Yeah, and what's with Jackdaw's revenge? Like no one important to him died, and survived his assassination and decided to show up after years (i think) to have revenge? for what? killin him when he survived years ago (again, i think)
fuck challenges, I came back now only for the lore. if this was true, this could even give more depth into Sparrow. It’s actually possible that Sparrow also kept Rose identity a secret, after all, sparrow does respect one well wishes. This means that it’s likely that Sparrow could convey the information to Rose where Falcon died, causing the Nightmare Killhouse dream. This could also potentially lead up to why Sparrow didn’t purposefully come at the end of Black Dusk mission where the freelancer could be rescued, she knew this was his mission and if he did survive, he would have escaped. It all sums up now
If the Freelancer left Falcon alive but…. In the Scientist, all Halcyon Agents are killed except for Falcon, when Falcon is distracted he is knocked out by the Freelancer and is taken in a body bag and kidnapped by Phoenix. He wakes up in a Phoenix room where Jackdaw, Sparrow, and the Freelancer are. He is interrogated by Phoenix either by the USB or Interrogating him. He is then set up a deal by Jackdaw and Phoenix and leaves Halcyon without the Director knowing. The Director notices how Falcon isn’t awnsering his calls so he he sends a convoy of Halcyon Operatives to check it out and find everyone killed and the director finds out Falcon is missing and there are no trace of his body and remains so Halcyon presumes he is dead and also find out Phoenix has raided there warehouse as it was reported to the Director. Falcon tells Phoenix about the bunker Halcyon got from the CSIS leading to the mission the SCRS never happening. After the intel Falcon gave to the Freelancer, the mission black dusk happens. Falcon accesses the Bunkers programs and fixes the elevator also I forgot to mention that Falcon gave intel to Phoenix about the trap leading to The Freelancers death never happening. Falcon calls the Bunker and gives The freelancer a Special Halcyon uniform giving them access anywhere. They successfully planted the bombs and the a Freelancer left with no trace. Now to the a epilogue, Halcyon is successfully defeated and the a Director is killed by Jackdaw. Falcon goes to a unknown location and meets up with a Rose. It was over, the war was over and Halcyon is disbanded. Rose leaves to go back to Monaco and Falcon, well…. Let’s leave that to imagination. (Just a theory if you left Falcon alive and kidnapped him in The Scientist mission)
I always knew about this, and it made me hate Jackdaw. Just pay attention to details: he was hired to kill the remaining leaders of Halcyon. Most likely most of them assasinate to make it look like accident. But Director had planned it well, so he told him to just murder the remaining for less suspension of Halcyon operatives, analytists, techs and coordinators. But he also said in a file: "I will sleep better after it will be done". Making me think he wanted to make sure no dictatorship would happen in the organization. He afterwards told Wren to kill Jackdaw so he won't snitch it all and make everyone leave the organization. Jackdaw was saved by Rose 🌹. It is also mentioned in files that he was offered peace. A life. But he wanted war. He convinced Rose to become an Informant, costing him to lose her. Jackdaw also convinced Freelancer to betray Halcyon, leading to lose Freelancer too. So is Director a villain? What about Jackdaw? Director didn't reacted to Jackdaw's messages that he is going for revenge. Meaning he basically gave him chance to live in peace... Falcon had experience from escaping orders, and he was also having a huge relationship with Rose and Freelancer. So he wouldn't kill Rose and Freelancer (and not detecting him/her immediately). He faked her death like Rose did to Jackdaw. And how Jackdaw did to Rose. The files tell that she died, but it was faked, so greatly that we fell for it too. What if Freelancer was at last seconds saved by Rose and Falcon, and Falcon was saved and last seconds by Rose? This is my theory, and my thoughts.
We also know in the past if anyone remembered, that cish never really *wanted* to kill off rose. This theory has some backbone to it's statements however due to what cish has stated in the past about rose dying and all that. I have a feeling that this MIGHT be a true theory. However, as it's told. It is just a theory after all.
When I saw this episode in my recommended, I thought *what a weird character to follow*. It is only now, after seeing your Trust cutscene in a separate video, that I decided to watch this. I think you made your point clear: Falcon is one of the most compelling characters in EP. Also: I hadn't heard of SkiggsMoDiggs in a hot minute. Totally forgot about him.
I don't think Falcon really died, thanks to one badge in particular... Torching The Forest City, which says:Beat The Scientist on Legend without raising the alarm or killing anyone. This little line about "without killing anyone" might suspect Falcon or any of the Halcyon operatives in The Scientist being alive thanks to The Freelancer just knocking them unconscious, so it would make sense of Falcon to not be dead.
Jackdaw mentions in the mission that he will send in a phoenix squad to check the computers for data after the freelancer leaves (stealth) so they will probably interrogate and kill falcon
falcon is canonically deceased. i don't recall which one, but a lock file with info on falcon has his status as deceased. if falcon is still alive after the mission, the asset recovery team sent by jackdaw eliminates him
i like to believe that rose, was going to fake her death, but convinced falcon to actually kill her she wanted it all to end, without her, everything could change, she wanted that, she knew halcyon would probably never fall if she didn't die, she probably knew the freelancer would take halcyon down because of her death, and she also wanted to stop everything, so she actually wanted to die
Falcon Dont Actually have to die. You can just take take him down, make him uncouncious. If this were canon, Falcon would just wake up like any other guards. Edit: At the end of the Black Dusk Halycon get taken down. Falcon might die there or he just join phoenix side.
This this makes too much sense. It might actually be true. And that would make the Freelancers death even more sad, he let revenge fuel him and ended up dying(if he actually died) for technically nothing, since his/her motivation was Roses “death”. I yearn for the day I find a code. But I’m too dumb to figure stuff out lol. Didn’t realize there were still codes in EP.
I have a theory (I know it's late but don't care) : Rose faked her death so she could return the Freelancer to Halcyon, so she could finish what she started, destroy Halcyon. The killhouse is actually Rose's nightmare about the Freelancer, and remember what they did togheter. The killhouse nightmare is a nightmare too, but also in Freelancer's afterlife, Rose wanted the Freelancer to destroy the Halcyon, but it ended by the Freelancer's death.
Now I feel unable to shoot falcon in the scientist mission since I feel that it is possible that he could be a potential ally, now I just knock him out
also i think the random words hidden around the maps like: the morse code in the financier that when translated says geus might be part of the trust file
What does not make sense is that the freelancer can get shot like 1,00 times before he/her die but in black dusk they die instantly from a explosion even though they looked to be in a blast proof elevator with the doors closed
blake DANGER!! lol Also the gala lock things are really edgy. It seems more like something that would be in the killhouse, cause the killhouse is the edgy afterdeath limbo. But it also applies to the conversation in the animation.
First of all, not sure if Jackdaw was in on this I didn't hear a mention to it. But if he was, why didn't he either inform the freelancer or not go for revenge as his friend was spared? Please comment if I missed something that breaks this problem with the theory
If this friend is rose, then he didn’t have any knowledge she was alive. After all the scheme was to trick both pheonix and halcyon into believing she is dead so she can get out of the game she so hates.
I have a theory. What if Jackdaw, Rose and Falcon are working together this whole time? Maybe the reason why Falcon lacks dialogues is because he was expecting The Freelancer to come, but doesn't know where's he is? I mean like he's giving The Freelancer clues to find the keycard on The Scientist. I don't know...
Well maybe that theory is correct as in the Withdrawal,Jackdaw said Rose is Missing out... (Edit: Didnt cish say rose is her fav character and didnt want to say she died or smth. But its just a theory.A game theory
If that theorie is right and rose is alive, this game is more darker than we though but i dont know why rose would try to fake her dead even from Phoenix. But if is right, those words from Rose of the killhouse nightmare are more shocking because she sounds like showing indiference to the freelancers dead. However i dont support completly this theory
You need to read the second Black Dusk code to understand why Rose would want out. She literally says it too. And at the end she also betrayed Pheonix by telling Jackdaw Halcyon doesn’t know about the lakehouse. With a dislike for both sides there isnt really any want to stay in the game.
I think I disagree, the fact that falcon would shoot us and alert the entire base in the scientist if he saw the freelancer is already proof enough, if he had known that rose made that call it's probably more likely he would try to talk to the freelancer than just shooting
@@thatguywhousesr3105 I guess you’re right, but what I meant was like I knocked him out and brought him on the helicopter with me, because in real life he could be a vital piece of information
If this is true, it means that if halcyon doesn't know something, it won't show up in their files, as the files are made by halcyon. This must mean halcyon survived black dusk, since they are able to monitor the FBI investigation and record it in the black dusk file. The destruction of the black dusk bunker isn't significant if halcyon have onyx files elsewhere. Plus, halcyon operative could easily evacuate, considering the plan for the attack call for the bombs to be in the vent, OR be near the elevator, only one of the locations, not both. Halcyon could use the vent if freelancer succeeds, or the elevator, if freelancer fails. Either way, the freelancer would be killed, while halcyon survives. "But the lock file say halcyon is gone" no, the lock file says halcyon know government THINKS they are gone. Exactly what halcyon wanted. TL;DR, if lock file readable, halcyon knows, halcyon take minimal damage in BD and destroys phoenix by altering their plans so halcyon able to know the gov think they gone, then they go stealth.
Y’all, I know this vid is over a year old but like… Rose is dead, it’s CONFIRMED… Did you even LOOK at the lock code? I don’t think you can realistically fake that kinda stuff in real life unless Rose took acting school
Before watching this video I had a different theory. Is it possible that Flacon wanted to defect to Phoenix yet he was afraid of Halcyon finding out and eliminating him?
i LOVED watching ppl bash on ep before the video even began like "THERES NO MORE!! SPERO MILKING!! CRINGE" and then the video blows everyone away. spero you did a FANTASTIC job and i know how hard yall worked on this!! be proud :D
Now I’m confused because if rose called jackdaw you think he would go over to her but then when it was our time to get killed jackdaw was there and saved us
falcon might even be alive, you could’ve justk ocked him unconscious and nit kill him, although he isnt need for the story to continue so it doesn’t really matter
one small problem with this theory. why didn't falcon leave halcyon and join phoenix the same way he originally left steel cove and joined halcyon? maybe its because he hated jackdaw or was connected someway personally to halcyon. its just a minor hole but im sure something can explain it away
@@nictactoe1496 Yes but if the bag was meant for the freelancer, the bag was evidently full, the FL could not have missed the fact that the bag was empty, which it wasnt.
I usually can't stand theories that state that Rose is alive, since they always feel like they're written by people in denial. But there's something... different about this theory. Something that feels like something that could actually happen in the EP universe. After all, Jackdaw was able to fake his death with the help of Rose, and maybe this is Rose's "reward" of some sorts for just wanting to do the right thing throughout the story.
Edit: This would also give Falcon a personality of his own, rather than just being the same character as Wren. (Personality wise).
"the freelancer is alive guys trust me they did cool operative tricks and backflipped out of black dusk!!"
@@SkiggsMoDiggs TBH I think that freelancer may have survived then died which would explain the killhouse nightmare thing also I think he survived because of the doors on the elevator which look like heavy doors that might be able to deflect an explosive
Theres literally an audio log of rose being killed as well.
oh wait
@@garethwilliams2078 the doors are open it's confirmed in the 2021 April fools
Rose and Falcon seemed to be friends, so its definetly possible that if Falcon really had such a moral compas, he wouldn´t kill Rose.
If this theory is true than cish really wasnt lying when he said years ago that he would never kill Rose and that he had that all planned out from the start.
Story telling genius
fr the lore is amazing
Cishshato is a she not a he
@@asadnabiev4088 no one really knows ig
@@asadnabiev4088 i heard they used they/them pronouns
He did not plan it out from the start. Any story teller who says this is automatically lying.
Quick add-on theory that I just thought of:
So you know how it’s basically confirmed a while back that the killhouse and subsequently the nightmare aren’t real due to the mission date being after the Freelancer’s death, and how this caused a whole bunch of theories about how after the Freelancer and Rose’s deaths they get stuck in this eternal loop of completing the killhouse. Well what if they were right, but just had the wrong context.
The killhouse loop is Rose’s dreams after she fakes her death. It explains why she still has dialogue, why the nightmare assault is called a nightmare, and doesn’t leave any gaps that the death loop theory covered (ex: Rose’s line about how it shouldn’t have ended “this way” still makes sense under both theories).
Just some food for thought
just no
I’m eating this up instead of my breakfast
Tbh it's just of good of a theory as the other one with rose
Weirdly enough, Rose being alive makes the Freelancer’s death even more depressing
rose is dead when freelancer died
@@nothpxi dont think you watched the video
@@zenciomer123 ok
I mean this does make the line in the Nightmare "You just had to get your revenge." line a little more clearer.
Ever since the scientist was released , every time i knock/kill falcon i always thought to myself no there's gotta more about him than him just being a normal NPC , i know about his backstory in the steel cove and he is the one who assasinate rose but this even make more sense , now every time i knock/kill falcon i feel really bad for him , i wish cish give us the choice to bring him with us instead of just knock/kill him because who knows maybe bring him with us could change the ending of entry point.
Maybe by knocking him out put him in the bag and take him with you but yeah it sucks that you can’t take him with you
Not all stories have a happy ending, and that includes Falcons.
@@_Physically true
@@_Physically I'm pretty sure no one got a real happy ending in EP
@@Neak_Blu yeah. My point still stands.
I know this video is a year old but... one over-looked detail: Remember when Cish said they would NEVER kill Rose? It makes sense there
Pretty great theory for the most part. Definitely fills a bunch of holes and has solid enough foundations to it, although I do think there's one contradiction worth noting:
At the bottom of the Scientist's lock code, you get a few lines where Falcon states his ID and tells Halcyon that Rose is dead. Falcon and Rose would've planned all this out in this scenario, scripted what they'd say, yet Falcon (who would know Jackdaw can hear him) lets Jackdaw hear his ID, and in doing so puts a huge target on his back, which just seems careless to me. Like he knows Jackdaw's the kind of guy to hold grudges, yet he carelessly makes Jackdaw think that he killed Rose, and therefore makes Jackdaw come after him.
It's not like it was required that he let Jackdaw hear this either. It would've been easy for Falcon to just dispose of the phone, then make the call to Halcyon saying Rose is dead, and Jackdaw never would've known Falcon "killed" Rose. It doesn't sit right with me that Falcon and Rose would've come up with this good a plan, and then stupidly screw it up at the last moment and leave evidence that would make Jackdaw specifically go after Falcon, the person who he believes has killed Rose.
With all this, right now I think the assumed story is more likely - that Rose, being chased by Falcon, saves the Freelancer with her last breaths. That being said, I can't deny that a lot of the evidence shown in this video is strong and suggests Falcon helped Rose in some way.
I think maybe there's another story here, different from this theory and the previously assumed theory that wouldn't have any contradictions to it. One idea I had is that Falcon does kill Rose for betraying Halcyon, but lets her save the Freelancer, who is about to be executed despite doing nothing wrong, but that's just speculation.
There's some more evidence about the contradiction that I've cut for brevity, and if you'd like to talk to me at all about that evidence or anything I've said here, my disc is Captain Midnight#0245.
TL;DR If this video is all correct, it wouldn't make any sense in the Scientist lock code for Falcon to say his ID of OC-7 while Rose's phone call to Jackdaw is still active, as this would lead Jackdaw to specifically target Falcon as he believes Falcon has killed Rose.
very good argument!
some counterpoints:
a) i feel like falcon would HAVE to say his id number for real authenticity, doing otherwise might be suspicious for halcyon ops
b) given how halcyon is falcon's last resort, and he felt morally starved enough that he would resort to treason to help somebody, i feel like he would see death as a worthy consequence for this
@@SkiggsMoDiggs a is absolutely true, but i don't think there's any reason that falcon couldn't just dispose of the phone first, then make the call in to Halcyon.
b is a fair point, but it's a pretty convoluted way to commit suicide. I know you can't really show or talk about suicide in roblox games, but it's still stretching it a bit.
"we both knew this was a suicide mission, Jackdaw"
It is prob a distraction, as to buy Rose more time to hide from Jackdaw
I believe he did this to make it as believable as possible for both phoenix and halcyon.
This makes the end for EP way more twisted. Freelancer agreed with Jackdaw for revenge for Rose since Rose "died", (Jackdaw was already being manipulative with the Freelancer) but this theory suggests otherwise. The Freelancer died for a reason which wasn't even his at this point, it was Jackdaw who just used him, even if Jackdaw didn't know about Rose being alive, his intentions with using Rose's death are clear.
Yeah, and what's with Jackdaw's revenge? Like no one important to him died, and survived his assassination and decided to show up after years (i think) to have revenge? for what? killin him when he survived years ago (again, i think)
"This is, however, just a theory."
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High what?
@@American_Recl_Authorityhe’s on weed
@@lordofthefemboys Welp, Drug Enforcement Administration will be involved
@@American_Recl_Authority what their going to do eh
fuck challenges, I came back now only for the lore.
if this was true, this could even give more depth into Sparrow. It’s actually possible that Sparrow also kept Rose identity a secret, after all, sparrow does respect one well wishes.
This means that it’s likely that Sparrow could convey the information to Rose where Falcon died, causing the Nightmare Killhouse dream.
This could also potentially lead up to why Sparrow didn’t purposefully come at the end of Black Dusk mission where the freelancer could be rescued, she knew this was his mission and if he did survive, he would have escaped.
It all sums up now
Sparrow rides a helicopter, the misson is underground...
Nice job
man, I wish Chish had enough resources and funds to make an AAA game.
If the Freelancer left Falcon alive but….
In the Scientist, all Halcyon Agents are killed except for Falcon, when Falcon is distracted he is knocked out by the Freelancer and is taken in a body bag and kidnapped by Phoenix. He wakes up in a Phoenix room where Jackdaw, Sparrow, and the Freelancer are. He is interrogated by Phoenix either by the USB or Interrogating him. He is then set up a deal by Jackdaw and Phoenix and leaves Halcyon without the Director knowing. The Director notices how Falcon isn’t awnsering his calls so he he sends a convoy of Halcyon Operatives to check it out and find everyone killed and the director finds out Falcon is missing and there are no trace of his body and remains so Halcyon presumes he is dead and also find out Phoenix has raided there warehouse as it was reported to the Director. Falcon tells Phoenix about the bunker Halcyon got from the CSIS leading to the mission the SCRS never happening. After the intel Falcon gave to the Freelancer, the mission black dusk happens. Falcon accesses the Bunkers programs and fixes the elevator also I forgot to mention that Falcon gave intel to Phoenix about the trap leading to The Freelancers death never happening. Falcon calls the Bunker and gives The freelancer a Special Halcyon uniform giving them access anywhere. They successfully planted the bombs and the a Freelancer left with no trace. Now to the a epilogue, Halcyon is successfully defeated and the a Director is killed by Jackdaw. Falcon goes to a unknown location and meets up with a Rose. It was over, the war was over and Halcyon is disbanded. Rose leaves to go back to Monaco and Falcon, well…. Let’s leave that to imagination.
(Just a theory if you left Falcon alive and kidnapped him in The Scientist mission)
but wait a minute so she like backstabbed pheonix and leaved them all alone by going to monaco ?
Then what happens with the freelancer then
@@lowkey2917 he died in bomb blast at 2017/04/16
@@Specialforcesbacon Ik but after that where does the freelancer go what does he do
@@lowkey2917 he is sent at the Beach where his grave is (prob lake errie)
I always knew about this, and it made me hate Jackdaw. Just pay attention to details: he was hired to kill the remaining leaders of Halcyon. Most likely most of them assasinate to make it look like accident. But Director had planned it well, so he told him to just murder the remaining for less suspension of Halcyon operatives, analytists, techs and coordinators. But he also said in a file: "I will sleep better after it will be done". Making me think he wanted to make sure no dictatorship would happen in the organization. He afterwards told Wren to kill Jackdaw so he won't snitch it all and make everyone leave the organization. Jackdaw was saved by Rose 🌹. It is also mentioned in files that he was offered peace. A life. But he wanted war. He convinced Rose to become an Informant, costing him to lose her. Jackdaw also convinced Freelancer to betray Halcyon, leading to lose Freelancer too. So is Director a villain? What about Jackdaw? Director didn't reacted to Jackdaw's messages that he is going for revenge. Meaning he basically gave him chance to live in peace...
Falcon had experience from escaping orders, and he was also having a huge relationship with Rose and Freelancer. So he wouldn't kill Rose and Freelancer (and not detecting him/her immediately). He faked her death like Rose did to Jackdaw. And how Jackdaw did to Rose. The files tell that she died, but it was faked, so greatly that we fell for it too.
What if Freelancer was at last seconds saved by Rose and Falcon, and Falcon was saved and last seconds by Rose? This is my theory, and my thoughts.
"We all make our own choices, kid" -Jackdaw
We also know in the past if anyone remembered, that cish never really *wanted* to kill off rose. This theory has some backbone to it's statements however due to what cish has stated in the past about rose dying and all that. I have a feeling that this MIGHT be a true theory. However, as it's told. It is just a theory after all.
This makes me enjoy the game even more days after days, discoveries after discoveries, and theories after theories
I love Entry Point
thats why we all love this game.
You love to see it! Didn’t expect to see an entire case study on this video nice job.
great theory, animation, editing... if this is true, this could be a game changer in terms of lore
When I saw this episode in my recommended, I thought *what a weird character to follow*. It is only now, after seeing your Trust cutscene in a separate video, that I decided to watch this. I think you made your point clear: Falcon is one of the most compelling characters in EP.
Also: I hadn't heard of SkiggsMoDiggs in a hot minute. Totally forgot about him.
I've always thought that Falcon was just a soldier who follows orders, but this video gives more character to him.
I don't think Falcon really died, thanks to one badge in particular... Torching The Forest City, which says:Beat The Scientist on Legend without raising the alarm or killing anyone. This little line about "without killing anyone" might suspect Falcon or any of the Halcyon operatives in The Scientist being alive thanks to The Freelancer just knocking them unconscious, so it would make sense of Falcon to not be dead.
Jackdaw mentions in the mission that he will send in a phoenix squad to check the computers for data after the freelancer leaves (stealth) so they will probably interrogate and kill falcon
@@Pants715 falcon being unconscious:
falcon is canonically deceased. i don't recall which one, but a lock file with info on falcon has his status as deceased. if falcon is still alive after the mission, the asset recovery team sent by jackdaw eliminates him
@@velscriptit’s lock file OUTCAST
WAIT HOLY CRAP I THINK I JUST FIGURED IT OUT ALL THE BOLD LETTERS SAID IN ENTRY POINT MAYBE THAT IS THE BLANKS IN THE TRUST FILE
i like to believe that rose, was going to fake her death, but convinced falcon to actually kill her
she wanted it all to end, without her, everything could change, she wanted that, she knew halcyon would probably never fall if she didn't die, she probably knew the freelancer would take halcyon down because of her death,
and she also wanted to stop everything, so she actually wanted to die
wow, that connor theme from dbh tho 👌
Falcon Dont Actually have to die. You can just take take him down, make him uncouncious. If this were canon, Falcon would just wake up like any other guards.
Edit: At the end of the Black Dusk Halycon get taken down. Falcon might die there or he just join phoenix side.
The team that Jackdaw sent in for asset recovery would kill everyone still alive.
@@Bezray what if the freelancer carrys falcon body
The code we get to put in "The Lock" that give us the intel file from falcon says that canonically he was killed in the scientist and is deceased
This this makes too much sense. It might actually be true. And that would make the Freelancers death even more sad, he let revenge fuel him and ended up dying(if he actually died) for technically nothing, since his/her motivation was Roses “death”.
I yearn for the day I find a code. But I’m too dumb to figure stuff out lol.
Didn’t realize there were still codes in EP.
"But it's just a theory"
I was gonna bang my head if you continued with "An Entry Point theory"
Glad you didn't kill me
A year and 3 days later after this video premiered, I saw it, I did not know of that possibility until now about Rose.
If that's the case of the "Trust" cutscene, then I think I feel bad when Falcon died in The Scientist mission
Well that explains his codename. "Falcon" which most of the time represents freedom.
Jackdaw specifically said that this is not a secure channel, wouldn’t it be Rose radioing Jackdaw on a channel that isn’t secure?
3:07 cool, dbh music. Good choice, i love dbh
I have a theory (I know it's late but don't care) :
Rose faked her death so she could return the Freelancer to Halcyon, so she could finish what she started, destroy Halcyon. The killhouse is actually Rose's nightmare about the Freelancer, and remember what they did togheter. The killhouse nightmare is a nightmare too, but also in Freelancer's afterlife, Rose wanted the Freelancer to destroy the Halcyon, but it ended by the Freelancer's death.
Now I feel unable to shoot falcon in the scientist mission since I feel that it is possible that he could be a potential ally, now I just knock him out
I can't believe there's still lore after the game ended for two years
woah that was super well made! good job :)
As soon as connors theme came on I knew shit was going down
I love the Detroit: Become Human music in the background. For some reason it fits to Entry Point a lot.
also i think the random words hidden around the maps like: the morse code in the financier that when translated says geus might be part of the trust file
What does not make sense is that the freelancer can get shot like 1,00 times before he/her die but in black dusk they die instantly from a explosion even though they looked to be in a blast proof elevator with the doors closed
Spoiler,
it has nothing to do with the black dusk code
Dart!!! you can't spoil stuff like this!!!
Then it ends up actually being about the black dusk code 😳
This is a Dart momen
@@06lizard 🤔
@@epicm999 ay wonder who u culd be, totally don't know u from somewhere ;)
I guess there is more reason why I like Falcon as a character.
blake DANGER!! lol
Also the gala lock things are really edgy. It seems more like something that would be in the killhouse, cause the killhouse is the edgy afterdeath limbo. But it also applies to the conversation in the animation.
Danger is my codename on my infiltrator 💀
before i knew his name i used to call him derrick danger as a joke💀
i never thought that his surname would actually be danger lmao
What I don't understand about this theory is why this whole hidden dialogue was kept in the lock file of The Concept. It just doesn't make any sense.
2:46 love the DBH music here
Same, I recognised it once it was played
That just insane why i didn't ever know this even considering fact that my character is literally falcon for over a year.
First of all, not sure if Jackdaw was in on this I didn't hear a mention to it. But if he was, why didn't he either inform the freelancer or not go for revenge as his friend was spared? Please comment if I missed something that breaks this problem with the theory
Simple. He just made a memorial, just like with the freelancer. The body was "unrecoverable" in both cases
If this friend is rose, then he didn’t have any knowledge she was alive. After all the scheme was to trick both pheonix and halcyon into believing she is dead so she can get out of the game she so hates.
7:55 "this is how ever just a theory"
A GAME THEORY
Why was falcon twerking in the thumbnail💀
Wdym? The picture is him standing on a rock?
if someone whos never played entry point before watches this video, they would probably think the game is a metaphor for trust
If this is real and cish is seeing this, I bet he's having the biggest grim in his face saying "I TOLD YA"
Way to keep the game on life support
fun fact: as this day was posted to youtube, Falcon's Birthday was 8 days ago.
Spero touch elite stealth
I have a theory. What if Jackdaw, Rose and Falcon are working together this whole time? Maybe the reason why Falcon lacks dialogues is because he was expecting The Freelancer to come, but doesn't know where's he is? I mean like he's giving The Freelancer clues to find the keycard on The Scientist. I don't know...
Well maybe the director wanted rose death but rose and falcon was the best friends
Well maybe that theory is correct as in the Withdrawal,Jackdaw said Rose is Missing out...
(Edit: Didnt cish say rose is her fav character and didnt want to say she died or smth.
But its just a theory.A game theory
Thanks for watching
@@arcitatious We'll see you guys next time.
honestly thought the thumbnail was falcon doing the thugshaker
If that theorie is right and rose is alive, this game is more darker than we though but i dont know why rose would try to fake her dead even from Phoenix. But if is right, those words from Rose of the killhouse nightmare are more shocking because she sounds like showing indiference to the freelancers dead. However i dont support completly this theory
You need to read the second Black Dusk code to understand why Rose would want out. She literally says it too. And at the end she also betrayed Pheonix by telling Jackdaw Halcyon doesn’t know about the lakehouse. With a dislike for both sides there isnt really any want to stay in the game.
I think I disagree, the fact that falcon would shoot us and alert the entire base in the scientist if he saw the freelancer is already proof enough, if he had known that rose made that call it's probably more likely he would try to talk to the freelancer than just shooting
he's still hired by halcyon, and what he did with Rose would have been way more "under the table"
i shouldnt have had all that apple juice
bro, for the whole time i didn’t realise it says DANGER, (pronounced dane-jer) I was pronouncing it like dang-er the whole time T_T
how…?
@@sourwinee i’m bad at making out words
@@boxfullery understandable
Was I seriously the only one who didn’t kill Falcon?
I mean, to get the golden badges you can't kill anyone right? So you cant be the only one
@@thatguywhousesr3105 I guess you’re right, but what I meant was like I knocked him out and brought him on the helicopter with me, because in real life he could be a vital piece of information
When you meet Rose, it gives you a badge that says: Road to Revenge. This might be why The Freelancer killed Falcon after Falcon killed Rose.
Man just pulled a matpat
If this is true, it means that if halcyon doesn't know something, it won't show up in their files, as the files are made by halcyon. This must mean halcyon survived black dusk, since they are able to monitor the FBI investigation and record it in the black dusk file. The destruction of the black dusk bunker isn't significant if halcyon have onyx files elsewhere. Plus, halcyon operative could easily evacuate, considering the plan for the attack call for the bombs to be in the vent, OR be near the elevator, only one of the locations, not both. Halcyon could use the vent if freelancer succeeds, or the elevator, if freelancer fails. Either way, the freelancer would be killed, while halcyon survives. "But the lock file say halcyon is gone" no, the lock file says halcyon know government THINKS they are gone. Exactly what halcyon wanted.
TL;DR, if lock file readable, halcyon knows, halcyon take minimal damage in BD and destroys phoenix by altering their plans so halcyon able to know the gov think they gone, then they go stealth.
Im guessing the trust file is corrupted and maybe like falcon recorded this conversation and then corrupted the transcript maybe
Maybe it will be revealed in operators
What seems stupid to me is that in The Scientist couldn’t you just knock Falcon out instead of killing him? Or does Phoenix finishes him off anyways
Me: Hey boss i capture a Bird
As we know jackdaw said he will send asset recovery team to the safe house which means that the team have probably found him alive and executed
I never thought I will watch fnaf like theory about entry point
Y’all, I know this vid is over a year old but like… Rose is dead, it’s CONFIRMED… Did you even LOOK at the lock code? I don’t think you can realistically fake that kinda stuff in real life unless Rose took acting school
#justiceforfalcon
7:57 would have been perfect if you said "a GAME theory" lol
imagine someone making an arg out of this or something
7:58 A Game THEORY
The Truth : The Freelancer was in his bed all along and only dreamt of that
imagine falcon had a brother named henry danger
Before watching this video I had a different theory. Is it possible that Flacon wanted to defect to Phoenix yet he was afraid of Halcyon finding out and eliminating him?
Cool video
i LOVED watching ppl bash on ep before the video even began like "THERES NO MORE!! SPERO MILKING!! CRINGE" and then the video blows everyone away. spero you did a FANTASTIC job and i know how hard yall worked on this!! be proud :D
Same lmao
I love watching ppl take this Ratio
Now I’m confused because if rose called jackdaw you think he would go over to her but then when it was our time to get killed jackdaw was there and saved us
In the lore it says that Rose is trying to inform Jackdaw to go to Crown Lake where the Freelancer is going to be killed, just read the EP wiki!
She said "Crown Lake. Get... Get to..."
Aye the mans back
So rose is alive? This is decaying my brain bro
falcon might even be alive, you could’ve justk ocked him unconscious and nit kill him, although he isnt need for the story to continue so it doesn’t really matter
Normally I would try to prove you wrong... but there is nothing. Nothing to prove you wrong. Maybe rose is alive.
4:52 i am not good animator
*some random animation app ad shows up*
Why.
one small problem with this theory. why didn't falcon leave halcyon and join phoenix the same way he originally left steel cove and joined halcyon? maybe its because he hated jackdaw or was connected someway personally to halcyon. its just a minor hole but im sure something can explain it away
Maybe because he's tired of both organizations fighting petty wars against each other and wants out from it for good.
Do wren next
Well at who can you trust there is double l and we sure that jackdaw dont have l
Just asking,
How do you get Falcon's code thing?
I am losing it
This is the only good theory that Rose is alive.
Wren would've known that a human wasn't in the bag during dedication cutscene, great theory but I feel its false....
No, that bag was meant for FL, not Rose because Halcyon believed Rose was thrown into Lake Erie. Theory still stands
@@nictactoe1496 Yes but if the bag was meant for the freelancer, the bag was evidently full, the FL could not have missed the fact that the bag was empty, which it wasnt.
What if there was just a random unnamed character that betrayed Halcyon in the bag?
@@funfetti7194remember it is rose's squad and not the duo of rose and freelancer
Unof clearly stated that rose/freelancer are dead, this theory might be busted
Unofficial is unofficial
Bro that channel is just creating ideas. Cish was smart by making fans still interested
Epic
What is it?
Or I just knock falcon unconscious instead of killing him
Ik im late but after you leave the mission everyone is later killed by analysts/ phoenix members
Rose is allive omg real lol!!!😨😨
This is probably about the black dusk code
Well falcon isnt dead, If u complete the scientist and you nock out all the guards, technically you also nock out Falcon and he doesnt die
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