Should I try to use this with Garageband with my 2015 4g ram Mac Air with a 2014 Zoom TAC-2. I'm hoping to follow youtube advice: "Use what you have to learn digital music recording." I am leaning towards Ableton since it's included with my new Akai Advance 61 which unlike my TAC-2 interface is no longer supported. I want to record demos for fun and profit, in my retirement. :) I wish my keyboard playing sounded great, like you. Great video!
Hey GW, I'm a big fan of Logic Pro, but I would certainly encourage you to give GarageBand a try since it's free with your MacBook Air. It's easy to transition from GarageBand to Logic Pro as well. This video will give you a bit of a tour of both GarageBand and Logic Pro and hopefully get your started making some music: ruclips.net/video/jRVQtKqeuuI/видео.html Cheers! Georges
Hi!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻i liked very much your vídeo! Thanks! I have a question, i’m a drummer and i want to teach drums through Zoom, this tutorial works for multichannel?
Thanks Chris! Yes you can run multi channel tracks to Zoom this way. Simply add in your audio tracks to your DAW the same way you would for a recording session. Do a quick mix/balance of the tracks in your DAW and the master output will be sent to Zoom using the multi-output device you created. Cheers! Georges
Hi, George! Thank you for the detailed video. It was very informative! As a newbie going through a bit of a learning curve, it helped a lot. The only thing I’m struggling with is that my keyboard sound doesn’t go through Zoom, while my mic works perfectly. I have no issues when using Garageband-both the keyboard and mic work-but I’m not sure what’s wrong with the Pro Tools setup. It’s strange because I can still record the keyboard sound. Any advice?
awesome man simplest and most effective explanation i could find. One question, if I wanted to use the integrated mic along with the audio from the audio interface, there's any way to do that?
Thanks! Yeah that can be done. You'll want to go into your "Audio Midi Setup" again and create an "Aggregate Device". Include your audio interface and your built-in microphone. Set you device input in your DAW to the aggregate device you created. You'll want to use headphones when using the built-in mic in order to avoid feedback. Cheers Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Unfortunately, the built-in mic with these instructions didn't work for me, the Ableton sound is ok and tight, but the mic is not ok!!
Thank you for this video! Is there anyway to be able to speak into your microphone and stream your DAW audio at the same time? Like for being able to song-write over a track in your DAW using your mic? My assumption is no because one audio input is your interface and your DAW would require the virtual audio driver? Thanks again!
HI Michael, you can simply add an audio track in your DAW and have your mic on that track. If you enable input monitoring on your microphone track it'll get sent to Zoom as well. I hope that helps. Cheers Georges
@@knuckledustermusic When I try this, it works, but it ALSO sends my mic back through my monitors, causing feedback. Is there a way to send Logic + Mic through Zoom, but only Logic in my monitors, so that I can hear myself playing a VST instrument in real time?
@@kyleramsay2042 the simplest thing would be to use headphones. A more complicated solution would be to have your mic running through separate software such as OBS and output your mic to Blackhole from there (with monitoring turned off). Cheers Georges
This is great and clear, but I have a question about do I save this as a template? I do guitar lessons everyday but also work in my daw for recording sessions. How would I go about setting this up so that when I go to zoom everyday this setting pops up, but when I want to work in my daw for session work that I wouldn’t have to undo all these steps to use my daw as a recording station alone?
Hi Christopher, you shouldn't have to change anything in those scenarios. Your input in your DAW would stay as your audio interface at all times, and your output can stay as the multi-output device you created. If your multi-output device includes your audio interface then you'll continue to get audio out of it when you're doing recording work. I hope that helps/makes sense. Cheers Georges
really great video. I use logic and would like to send my audio via Zoom. However, I would also like to speak and narrate what I'm doing through my native mic on my webcam. How can I send that audio in addition to the audio in Logic? Also, if I also wanted share quicktime audio/video as well, how would I go about it?
Hi Miles, thanks! To set up your speaking mic, set your audio input device in the Logic Pro Audio Preferences to your webcam mic (make sure your audio output device is set to the multi-output device you created). Then simply add an audio track for your speaking mic. For quicktime, when you share your screen using Zoom make sure to click the check mark in the bottom left corner of the share screen pop up window to share your computer sound. Or alternatively you can go into your MacOS system preferences and change your main sound output to the same multi-output device you created for Logic. In that case your computer sound will be heard at all times (regardless if you're sharing your screen). Cheers Georges
Hi Georges, I have finally managed to setup Blackhole, Logic, and Zoom to work together, however, when I use my Blue Yeti microphone there is a massive latency, which means there is no way of playing an audio track and singing along with it. Secondly, I have also managed successfully to route Safari audio to Zoom. Is there a way of using my Blue Yeti in that setup? I can use it via Logic, although there is latency, which doesn't matter as much as I will just be speaking after pausing the Safari audio. I can see no other way of using the Yeti, although I have added it to the multi-output device. It does not work that way it seems, which would of course be ideal rather than to run it over Logic. Moreover, in this setup my audio volume control on my MacBook is unavailable and the audio is heard in my headphone as well as the laptop speaker, which of course brings in feedback. Perhaps there is no other way than to switch from the Blackhole input in Zoom to the Yeti input whenever I want to speak? The Blackhole Multi-Output device has no output controls it says in my sound settings 😲
Hi Gauranga, do you mind explaining to me what the end goal is over Zoom? Are your headphones plugged into the Blue Yeti? For simply screen sharing and speaking I would do without BlackHole. Simply set your microphone to the Yeti in Zoom and use the screen sharing function (don't forget to click the share sound check box) in Zoom as well. If you're wanting to use Logic Pro in order to add things like reverb and compression to your vocals then I would go the BlackHole route. You'll have to look at your multi-output device again to only include BlackHole2Ch and the device you want to hear yourself through (computer speakers, or Yeti, or other). If you're experiencing a lot of latency, then lower your I/O buffer size in Logic Pro's Audio Preferences/Settings, and you can enable Low Latency mode as well. I hope that helps Cheers Georges
Sounds like a great solution I have been looking for for a long time. However, I am on Big Sur 11.6. Will it work? Secondly, will I be able to stream audio from a webpage to Zoom? Any answers would be appreciated.
On Big Sur you'll want to use BlackHole instead of Soundflower (existential.audio/blackhole/). To stream audio from a webpage to Zoom, you can use the built-in function in Zoom by clicking "Share Screen->Advanced->Computer Audio" OR go to your Mac "System Preferences->Sound->Output->Select the multi-output device you created". Cheers Georges
Great video thanks for the upload! I seem to be having some trouble setting this up. I am running on Mac OS Monterey 12.2.1 and want to run my DAW (I use Studio One) while teaching some online guitar lessons via Zoom. I installed the BlackHole 2ch driver and created a multi-output device. However, when I open up Preferences in Studio One and switch the Playback and Recording Device to the Multi-Output device I created in the Audio MIDI setup, I am not getting any of the effects/signal in the Studio One channels (just getting the dry signal). Also, when I open up the Audio Preferences in Zoom and change the microphone to BlackHole 2ch, it won't let me adjust the input volume (it seems to be stuck at 0). Any idea as to why that is?
Hi Joseph, I don't regularly use Studio One, but I seem to remember that you can't change the playback/recording device independently in Studio One. If that's correct, then you'll be unable to set your recording device to your audio interface and your playback device to the multi-output device simultaneously. I'm guessing that the dry signal you're hearing at the moment is from the direct monitoring from your audio interface. The workaround would be to create an aggregate device rather than a multi-output device, so that you can include the input of your audio interface. The volume stuck at zero in Zoom is normal. If everything is working as it should you will see signal inputing into Zoom. The volume will be controlled from Studio One. I hope that helps. Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Yes that is correct, playback/recording device cannot be changed independently in S1. I created an aggregated device in my Audio MIDI setup (BlackHole 2ch with drift correction on and AudioBox 22VSL, in that order). I changed my playback/recording device to Blackhole/22VSL Aggregate Device in S1, and the Speaker in Zoom to the audio interface and the microphone to the BlackHole 2ch and but am still not getting a signal. Is there anything else I could be missing with this?
@@JBadalamente30 the tricky thing with the aggregate device is that the output channels will be different for each device (AudioBox & Blackhole). You're AudioBox is likely channels 1&2 (are you still hearing the output in S1?), and Blackhole is output channels 3&4. So in S1 you'll need to create a send/bus for your guitar track so that it outputs to 3&4 (or whichever output Blackhole is routed to) as well. It's unfortunate that you can't have different input/output devices in S1 because this complicates things quite a bit. Hopefully that helps. Cheers!
@@knuckledustermusic Ok so I think I am getting closer. I added a bus to my guitar channel in S1 and am now getting a signal in Zoom (I switched my Microphone from BlackHole Ch 2 to Blackhole/22VSL Aggregate Device). However, when I recorded the Zoom session I am still only hearing the dry signal.
@@JBadalamente30 I believe what's happening now is since the microphone is now set to Blackhole/22VSL Aggregate Device, Zoom is just picking up the signal directly from your interface rather than Blackhole via S1. If you're still not getting any signal to Blackhole in Zoom then you'll have to look at your routing in S1 again. In your Audio Midi setup take a look to see which outputs in your Blackhole/22VSL Aggregate Device correspond to Blackhole and which correspond to 22VSL. Then make sure you're outputting signal to both sets of outputs in your DAW (likely 1&2 + 3&4). I hope that makes sense. A paid alternative you can look at is Loopback. There is a free demo to try. rogueamoeba.com/loopback/ I hope that helps. Cheers Georges
Thanks for the detailed explanation. My question: Can voice(mic audio) also be streamed in that zoom output. E.g Live singing with already recorded tracks..?
Hi this is a great solution and my friends can here the sound from daw but they cannot hear me through my mic at the same time unless I keep switching my microphone in zoom back and forth, how do I make it so they can hear both at the same time
I still haven't worked it out. BlackHole seems properly installed. I have established the multi output device too. But from here on I am lost. Actually I want to send audio from a webpage in Safari (or RUclips) to Zoom while Screen Sharing. Any help would be appreciated.
Hey Guaranga, if you're just looking to share your audio while screen sharing, then the easiest thing to do is to use the built in Zoom share screen feature. Just make sure to click the "share sound" checkbox in the share screen window. I hope that helps. Cheers Georges
You can add an audio track in your DAW for your built-in mic, but you risk getting feedback. Make sure you're using headphones if you do this. Otherwise you can set you microphone as the input source in Zoom, and use the share screen and share sound option in Zoom instead (you'll get more latency that way though). Cheers Georges
Very straight forward and to the point instructions. Thanks. Can the output to zoom be in stereo? When I record a test video the mic I have panned right is still mono.
Hey Bill, thanks for the comment! In the Zoom audio settings you'll need to enable stereo audio and then make sure "Original Sound" is on. If your Zoom settings are all correct, what's likely happening is Zoom only records video in mono (hopefully Zoom will allow stereo recordings in the future). You'll be broadcasting and heard in stereo on the other end, but your video recording from Zoom will be in mono. If you want a stereo video recording of your Zoom session, you can do a screen capture recording using the Screenshot app (found in Applications/Utilities) and set your microphone in Screenshot to Soundflower 2ch. The only downside of this method is you won't be capturing the audio of the other Zoom participants (only your own audio from your DAW). Hope that helps! Cheers! -Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Hi Georges, thanks for your reply and all the advice. I am getting the signal (including reverb and other effects) from Logic into zoom but it`s still mono. My interface is an Apogee Ensemble and my audio driver is Blackhole 16ch. I tried setting it up exactly as you do on youtube. I`m testing it on a live meeting, not a recording. At 4:00 minutes on your video you go through Logic Preference settings and for Input Device you say Multi Output device (set up in Midi) but for Input Device you don`t mention anything. I selected Ensemble for Input device. Here are my Logic and Zoom settings... Logic Preferences, Audio: Output Device - Ensemble Blackhole Multi Input Device - Ensemble Zoom Audio Settings: Speaker - Ensemble Microphone - Blackhole 16ch
@@billmccormack682 you've got your input device settings set correctly. The input device should be your audio interface (apogee ensemble in your case). I think the issues lies with using the 16ch Blackhole driver. Try creating a new multi-output device, but using the Blackhole 2Ch (instead of 16Ch) + Your Apogee Ensemble. Logic Output Device will = Blackhole 2Ch + Your Apogee Ensemble Logic Input Device = Apogee Ensemble Zoom Speaker = Apogee Ensemble Zoom Microphone = Blackhole 2Ch Also make sure you have the most up to date version of Zoom (earlier versions don't support stereo audio). I hope that solves it for ya! Cheers Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Hi! Thanks for the instructions but I have this exact issue, everything is mono via zoom in live meeting, not recording, and my zoom is up to date and I set up in/output exactly like yours, and I use blackhole 2Ch
@@hunghoangmusic Hi Hung, one thing to check is that you've enabled "Stereo Audio" in your Zoom audio settings, and make sure you have "Original Sound" turned on during your Zoom session. I hope that helps! Cheers!
Thank you so much. I cannot install Soundflower because of some privacy problem idk. Then I tried to install VB-audio, and did the same thing as you did: created multi-output device and setup other things. It works, but, it has some delay in my headphone. You know why and how to resolve it?
@@knuckledustermusic Latency. But I think I fixed it, by removing DeEsser effect. Now I can play instruments & listen to it at the same time in Zoom, the quality is pretty good. However, when I tested with a friend, the result on his side was not as good as expected. I guess the connection quality also plays a big role here. Thanks again btw! I'm still learning this stuff, using Audition & vst plugin.
@@haiphan8819 yes the more plugins you're using the more latency you'll get. Connection quality definitely makes a difference for each person on the call. If your connection is weak then you'll be transmitting a poor quality signal, and if the person on the receiving end has a weak signal then they'll be receiving a poor quality signal as well.
Thank you very much, super helpful! The only question I've got - the quality of sound that the listeners receive seem to be low quality, sounds like a crappy low bitrate mp3 (like 96Kbps or lower). What can be the solution? Thanks in advance!
I'd check to make sure that you have "Original sound for musicians" enabled in your Zoom settings. Also the upload/download speeds for both you and other participants could affect the audio quality.
Thanks for this video! I use Studio One and i've gone through all the steps. Only thing is, my daw won't let me select a different input from the output if I select The Multi-Output Device. So strange.
Hi Nathan, a few other Studio One users have mentioned the same thing. I believe the workaround (I haven't test this) is to create an aggregate device instead of a multi-output device. If you do this you'll need to route your audio to two stereo outputs in your DAW (1&2 for your interface + 3&4 for blackhole/soundflower). I hope that helps. Cheers Georges
How do you set it up to have a mic to talk into while also streaming the DAW output? like if I want to interact with someone on the far end while playing the sound from the daw?
Hello! Thanks for the video. I've tried this and Black Hole, but can't seem to get it work correctly. I can only get one track to get signal in Zoom at a time. If I have the track selected in Logic, it is what feeds into Zoom. If it isn't selected, then I see and hear no signal. i.e. I cannot play keys and speak into the mic at the same time, etc. What am I missing? Thanks!
Hi there, you'll need to make sure that each track is either record enabled or input monitoring is selected (the little "R" and "I" on each track). I hope that helps. Cheers!
I have attempted to get my mic working how can I do this AS WELL as having the setting I followed? It didn't work - how can I get mic working AND the daw audio to work ?
If you've got your DAW audio working in OBS, you can either just add your audio interface as an "Audio Input Capture" source in OBS (make sure you're mic is plugged into channel 1 and you set it to mono in OBS). Or simply add an audio track in your DAW and use that as your vocal track. Cheers Georges
hi there, thanks for your vid. I did everything EXACTLY like in your vid, but there's no sound coming in in Zoom when i set the Microphone to Soundflower 2 ch. Any idea what could 've gone wrong?
If you have a digital mixer that acts as an interface in your DAW then yes. Everything gets mixed down to your 2 channel stereo out in your DAW before being sent to Zoom. Cheers Georges
@@binojgeorge8079 with the Audient id4 you can use the loopback feature of the interface, so you don't need to install soundflower or blackhole. You'll need to set your output in your DAW to outputs 3/4. Set you microphone in Zoom to be inputs 3/4, and your speakers in Zoom to be outputs 1/2. This video might help clarify the steps: ruclips.net/video/1wlRYzi4Ow4/видео.html
@@zulmochammad1960 were you able to create your multi-output device? Which driver did you end up using (Soundflower or BlackHole)? Is the multi-output device showing as your output in Studio One? Is Soundflower or BlackHole showing up as your microphone in Zoom?
@@knuckledustermusic Yes i create a multi output device and the driver is soundflower same like yours. The Driver (Soundflower multioutput) show in my output in studio one,but when i try to play audio in S1 it not working i mean there is nothing sound out in my speaker.
If you're trying to send your DAW audio to OBS then you'll want to set your audio output in your DAW to the multi-output device you created, and in OBS set your Audio Input Capture to be BlackHole or Soundflower (not the multi-output device). I hope that helps. Cheers Georges
@@DuesGibGolfandLife check that you are recording audio to track 1 in the advanced audio settings. If you're recording to track 2 or 3 you likely won't be hearing it in the video playback.
You saved my life man! One thing though, when I talk, people don’t hear me if I don’t switch back to my Interface as Microphone. Is there a way for the others to both hear my voice and my Logic sound without switching back and forth? 😬
@@knuckledustermusic Thanks for the tip but I tried that but doesn't seem to work for me :( Only when I play back the track (if I actually press record) then it can be heard and if I just enable "Record" button and talk, there's no signal when I test the microphone if the Microphone to set to "Blackhole 2ch". Then if I switch the Mic to my interface then there's signal when I talk but I can't hear the recorded track in Logic haha
@@iamthaongo in that case you'll want to enable "input monitoring" on your vocal track by clicking the little "I" button on the track. If you're not seeing it, right click on your track and go to "Track Header Components->Input Monitoring". Cheers Georges
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This tutorial worked SO WELL for me. Thank you!😀
You're welcome!
You legend! I've been trying to do this on M1 chip and you mentioned black hole and now all working. Thank you very much
You're welcome, glad you got everything working!
Cheers
Georges
Hi, thank you so much. Also an M1 Mac user. Do you also have a Black Hole set up tutorial? Or is it pretty much the same? 🙏🎶
Should I try to use this with Garageband with my 2015 4g ram Mac Air with a 2014 Zoom TAC-2. I'm hoping to follow youtube advice: "Use what you have to learn digital music recording." I am leaning towards Ableton since it's included with my new Akai Advance 61 which unlike my TAC-2 interface is no longer supported. I want to record demos for fun and profit, in my retirement. :) I wish my keyboard playing sounded great, like you. Great video!
Hey GW, I'm a big fan of Logic Pro, but I would certainly encourage you to give GarageBand a try since it's free with your MacBook Air. It's easy to transition from GarageBand to Logic Pro as well. This video will give you a bit of a tour of both GarageBand and Logic Pro and hopefully get your started making some music: ruclips.net/video/jRVQtKqeuuI/видео.html
Cheers!
Georges
Hi!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻i liked very much your vídeo! Thanks! I have a question, i’m a drummer and i want to teach drums through Zoom, this tutorial works for multichannel?
Thanks Chris! Yes you can run multi channel tracks to Zoom this way. Simply add in your audio tracks to your DAW the same way you would for a recording session. Do a quick mix/balance of the tracks in your DAW and the master output will be sent to Zoom using the multi-output device you created.
Cheers!
Georges
Hi, George!
Thank you for the detailed video. It was very informative! As a newbie going through a bit of a learning curve, it helped a lot.
The only thing I’m struggling with is that my keyboard sound doesn’t go through Zoom, while my mic works perfectly. I have no issues when using Garageband-both the keyboard and mic work-but I’m not sure what’s wrong with the Pro Tools setup. It’s strange because I can still record the keyboard sound. Any advice?
Big help! Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thank you! So helpful!
You're most welcome!
Hi! What mic are you using?
Hi Madison, I'm using the Shure Sm7b. You can learn more about this mic in this video I made: ruclips.net/video/1vnTUlaY0zk/видео.html
Cheers
Georges
Clutch video! sir!!!!
Thanks!
Best video on this topic, thank you so much Sir!
You are most welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful!
Cheers
Georges
awesome man simplest and most effective explanation i could find. One question, if I wanted to use the integrated mic along with the audio from the audio interface, there's any way to do that?
Thanks! Yeah that can be done. You'll want to go into your "Audio Midi Setup" again and create an "Aggregate Device". Include your audio interface and your built-in microphone. Set you device input in your DAW to the aggregate device you created. You'll want to use headphones when using the built-in mic in order to avoid feedback.
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Unfortunately, the built-in mic with these instructions didn't work for me, the Ableton sound is ok and tight, but the mic is not ok!!
Thank you for this video! Is there anyway to be able to speak into your microphone and stream your DAW audio at the same time? Like for being able to song-write over a track in your DAW using your mic? My assumption is no because one audio input is your interface and your DAW would require the virtual audio driver? Thanks again!
HI Michael, you can simply add an audio track in your DAW and have your mic on that track. If you enable input monitoring on your microphone track it'll get sent to Zoom as well. I hope that helps.
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic When I try this, it works, but it ALSO sends my mic back through my monitors, causing feedback. Is there a way to send Logic + Mic through Zoom, but only Logic in my monitors, so that I can hear myself playing a VST instrument in real time?
@@kyleramsay2042 the simplest thing would be to use headphones. A more complicated solution would be to have your mic running through separate software such as OBS and output your mic to Blackhole from there (with monitoring turned off).
Cheers
Georges
Thanks from Brazil!! You saved me!
Happy to help!
This is great and clear, but I have a question about do I save this as a template? I do guitar lessons everyday but also work in my daw for recording sessions.
How would I go about setting this up so that when I go to zoom everyday this setting pops up, but when I want to work in my daw for session work that I wouldn’t have to undo all these steps to use my daw as a recording station alone?
Hi Christopher, you shouldn't have to change anything in those scenarios. Your input in your DAW would stay as your audio interface at all times, and your output can stay as the multi-output device you created. If your multi-output device includes your audio interface then you'll continue to get audio out of it when you're doing recording work. I hope that helps/makes sense.
Cheers
Georges
really great video. I use logic and would like to send my audio via Zoom. However, I would also like to speak and narrate what I'm doing through my native mic on my webcam. How can I send that audio in addition to the audio in Logic? Also, if I also wanted share quicktime audio/video as well, how would I go about it?
Hi Miles, thanks! To set up your speaking mic, set your audio input device in the Logic Pro Audio Preferences to your webcam mic (make sure your audio output device is set to the multi-output device you created). Then simply add an audio track for your speaking mic. For quicktime, when you share your screen using Zoom make sure to click the check mark in the bottom left corner of the share screen pop up window to share your computer sound. Or alternatively you can go into your MacOS system preferences and change your main sound output to the same multi-output device you created for Logic. In that case your computer sound will be heard at all times (regardless if you're sharing your screen).
Cheers
Georges
Hi Georges, I have finally managed to setup Blackhole, Logic, and Zoom to work together, however, when I use my Blue Yeti microphone there is a massive latency, which means there is no way of playing an audio track and singing along with it.
Secondly, I have also managed successfully to route Safari audio to Zoom. Is there a way of using my Blue Yeti in that setup? I can use it via Logic, although there is latency, which doesn't matter as much as I will just be speaking after pausing the Safari audio. I can see no other way of using the Yeti, although I have added it to the multi-output device. It does not work that way it seems, which would of course be ideal rather than to run it over Logic. Moreover, in this setup my audio volume control on my MacBook is unavailable and the audio is heard in my headphone as well as the laptop speaker, which of course brings in feedback. Perhaps there is no other way than to switch from the Blackhole input in Zoom to the Yeti input whenever I want to speak? The Blackhole Multi-Output device has no output controls it says in my sound settings 😲
Hi Gauranga, do you mind explaining to me what the end goal is over Zoom? Are your headphones plugged into the Blue Yeti?
For simply screen sharing and speaking I would do without BlackHole. Simply set your microphone to the Yeti in Zoom and use the screen sharing function (don't forget to click the share sound check box) in Zoom as well.
If you're wanting to use Logic Pro in order to add things like reverb and compression to your vocals then I would go the BlackHole route. You'll have to look at your multi-output device again to only include BlackHole2Ch and the device you want to hear yourself through (computer speakers, or Yeti, or other). If you're experiencing a lot of latency, then lower your I/O buffer size in Logic Pro's Audio Preferences/Settings, and you can enable Low Latency mode as well.
I hope that helps
Cheers
Georges
Sounds like a great solution I have been looking for for a long time. However, I am on Big Sur 11.6. Will it work? Secondly, will I be able to stream audio from a webpage to Zoom? Any answers would be appreciated.
On Big Sur you'll want to use BlackHole instead of Soundflower (existential.audio/blackhole/). To stream audio from a webpage to Zoom, you can use the built-in function in Zoom by clicking "Share Screen->Advanced->Computer Audio" OR go to your Mac "System Preferences->Sound->Output->Select the multi-output device you created".
Cheers
Georges
Great video thanks for the upload! I seem to be having some trouble setting this up. I am running on Mac OS Monterey 12.2.1 and want to run my DAW (I use Studio One) while teaching some online guitar lessons via Zoom. I installed the BlackHole 2ch driver and created a multi-output device. However, when I open up Preferences in Studio One and switch the Playback and Recording Device to the Multi-Output device I created in the Audio MIDI setup, I am not getting any of the effects/signal in the Studio One channels (just getting the dry signal). Also, when I open up the Audio Preferences in Zoom and change the microphone to BlackHole 2ch, it won't let me adjust the input volume (it seems to be stuck at 0). Any idea as to why that is?
Hi Joseph, I don't regularly use Studio One, but I seem to remember that you can't change the playback/recording device independently in Studio One. If that's correct, then you'll be unable to set your recording device to your audio interface and your playback device to the multi-output device simultaneously. I'm guessing that the dry signal you're hearing at the moment is from the direct monitoring from your audio interface. The workaround would be to create an aggregate device rather than a multi-output device, so that you can include the input of your audio interface. The volume stuck at zero in Zoom is normal. If everything is working as it should you will see signal inputing into Zoom. The volume will be controlled from Studio One.
I hope that helps.
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Yes that is correct, playback/recording device cannot be changed independently in S1. I created an aggregated device in my Audio MIDI setup (BlackHole 2ch with drift correction on and AudioBox 22VSL, in that order). I changed my playback/recording device to Blackhole/22VSL Aggregate Device in S1, and the Speaker in Zoom to the audio interface and the microphone to the BlackHole 2ch and but am still not getting a signal. Is there anything else I could be missing with this?
@@JBadalamente30 the tricky thing with the aggregate device is that the output channels will be different for each device (AudioBox & Blackhole). You're AudioBox is likely channels 1&2 (are you still hearing the output in S1?), and Blackhole is output channels 3&4. So in S1 you'll need to create a send/bus for your guitar track so that it outputs to 3&4 (or whichever output Blackhole is routed to) as well. It's unfortunate that you can't have different input/output devices in S1 because this complicates things quite a bit.
Hopefully that helps. Cheers!
@@knuckledustermusic Ok so I think I am getting closer. I added a bus to my guitar channel in S1 and am now getting a signal in Zoom (I switched my Microphone from BlackHole Ch 2 to Blackhole/22VSL Aggregate Device). However, when I recorded the Zoom session I am still only hearing the dry signal.
@@JBadalamente30 I believe what's happening now is since the microphone is now set to Blackhole/22VSL Aggregate Device, Zoom is just picking up the signal directly from your interface rather than Blackhole via S1. If you're still not getting any signal to Blackhole in Zoom then you'll have to look at your routing in S1 again. In your Audio Midi setup take a look to see which outputs in your Blackhole/22VSL Aggregate Device correspond to Blackhole and which correspond to 22VSL. Then make sure you're outputting signal to both sets of outputs in your DAW (likely 1&2 + 3&4). I hope that makes sense. A paid alternative you can look at is Loopback. There is a free demo to try. rogueamoeba.com/loopback/
I hope that helps.
Cheers
Georges
Thank you for this video!
Thanks for watching and for leaving a comment!
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Obrigado!
Thanks for the detailed explanation. My question: Can voice(mic audio) also be streamed in that zoom output. E.g Live singing with already recorded tracks..?
Hi Sam, yes of course. Simply add an audio track to your DAW and record enable and/or turn on input monitoring on your track.
Cheers
-Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Thanks so much for the prompt reply Georges....
@@drsamjoshua2069 you're welcome!
Hi this is a great solution and my friends can here the sound from daw but they cannot hear me through my mic at the same time unless I keep switching my microphone in zoom back and forth, how do I make it so they can hear both at the same time
I still haven't worked it out. BlackHole seems properly installed. I have established the multi output device too. But from here on I am lost. Actually I want to send audio from a webpage in Safari (or RUclips) to Zoom while Screen Sharing. Any help would be appreciated.
Hey Guaranga, if you're just looking to share your audio while screen sharing, then the easiest thing to do is to use the built in Zoom share screen feature. Just make sure to click the "share sound" checkbox in the share screen window.
I hope that helps.
Cheers
Georges
Thanks a lot for this! Perfect explanation 👍
You're welcome! Thanks for the comment!
it works! But... What happens if I want to use my MacBook microphone, is there any way to do it? Thank you so much you already help me a lot!
You can add an audio track in your DAW for your built-in mic, but you risk getting feedback. Make sure you're using headphones if you do this. Otherwise you can set you microphone as the input source in Zoom, and use the share screen and share sound option in Zoom instead (you'll get more latency that way though).
Cheers
Georges
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Very straight forward and to the point instructions. Thanks. Can the output to zoom be in stereo? When I record a test video the mic I have panned right is still mono.
Hey Bill, thanks for the comment! In the Zoom audio settings you'll need to enable stereo audio and then make sure "Original Sound" is on. If your Zoom settings are all correct, what's likely happening is Zoom only records video in mono (hopefully Zoom will allow stereo recordings in the future). You'll be broadcasting and heard in stereo on the other end, but your video recording from Zoom will be in mono. If you want a stereo video recording of your Zoom session, you can do a screen capture recording using the Screenshot app (found in Applications/Utilities) and set your microphone in Screenshot to Soundflower 2ch. The only downside of this method is you won't be capturing the audio of the other Zoom participants (only your own audio from your DAW).
Hope that helps! Cheers!
-Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Hi Georges, thanks for your reply and all the advice. I am getting the signal (including reverb and other effects) from Logic into zoom but it`s still mono. My interface is an Apogee Ensemble and my audio driver is Blackhole 16ch. I tried setting it up exactly as you do on youtube. I`m testing it on a live meeting, not a recording. At 4:00 minutes on your video you go through Logic Preference settings and for Input Device you say Multi Output device (set up in Midi) but for Input Device you don`t mention anything. I selected Ensemble for Input device. Here are my Logic and Zoom settings...
Logic Preferences, Audio: Output Device - Ensemble Blackhole Multi
Input Device - Ensemble
Zoom Audio Settings: Speaker - Ensemble
Microphone - Blackhole 16ch
@@billmccormack682 you've got your input device settings set correctly. The input device should be your audio interface (apogee ensemble in your case). I think the issues lies with using the 16ch Blackhole driver. Try creating a new multi-output device, but using the Blackhole 2Ch (instead of 16Ch) + Your Apogee Ensemble.
Logic Output Device will = Blackhole 2Ch + Your Apogee Ensemble
Logic Input Device = Apogee Ensemble
Zoom Speaker = Apogee Ensemble
Zoom Microphone = Blackhole 2Ch
Also make sure you have the most up to date version of Zoom (earlier versions don't support stereo audio). I hope that solves it for ya!
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Hi! Thanks for the instructions but I have this exact issue, everything is mono via zoom in live meeting, not recording, and my zoom is up to date and I set up in/output exactly like yours, and I use blackhole 2Ch
@@hunghoangmusic Hi Hung, one thing to check is that you've enabled "Stereo Audio" in your Zoom audio settings, and make sure you have "Original Sound" turned on during your Zoom session. I hope that helps!
Cheers!
Thank you so much. I cannot install Soundflower because of some privacy problem idk. Then I tried to install VB-audio, and did the same thing as you did: created multi-output device and setup other things. It works, but, it has some delay in my headphone. You know why and how to resolve it?
Hi Hai, are you hearing a delay as in latency or you're hearing an echo in your headphones?
@@knuckledustermusic Latency. But I think I fixed it, by removing DeEsser effect. Now I can play instruments & listen to it at the same time in Zoom, the quality is pretty good. However, when I tested with a friend, the result on his side was not as good as expected. I guess the connection quality also plays a big role here.
Thanks again btw! I'm still learning this stuff, using Audition & vst plugin.
@@haiphan8819 yes the more plugins you're using the more latency you'll get. Connection quality definitely makes a difference for each person on the call. If your connection is weak then you'll be transmitting a poor quality signal, and if the person on the receiving end has a weak signal then they'll be receiving a poor quality signal as well.
Thank you very much, super helpful! The only question I've got - the quality of sound that the listeners receive seem to be low quality, sounds like a crappy low bitrate mp3 (like 96Kbps or lower). What can be the solution? Thanks in advance!
I'd check to make sure that you have "Original sound for musicians" enabled in your Zoom settings. Also the upload/download speeds for both you and other participants could affect the audio quality.
@@knuckledustermusic thank you! problem solved - it was due to speed limitation of the receiving device.
@@knuckledustermusic here's the result - the quality worked out thanks to your guide! ruclips.net/video/JSkG-QWB6og/видео.html
@@The_Bogolepov nice work!!
Thank you! But, what can i do if every single time that i´m trying to install Soundflower, it fails?
I would suggest trying BlackHole 2ch instead.
Cheers
Georges
Thanks for this video! I use Studio One and i've gone through all the steps. Only thing is, my daw won't let me select a different input from the output if I select The Multi-Output Device. So strange.
Hi Nathan, a few other Studio One users have mentioned the same thing. I believe the workaround (I haven't test this) is to create an aggregate device instead of a multi-output device. If you do this you'll need to route your audio to two stereo outputs in your DAW (1&2 for your interface + 3&4 for blackhole/soundflower). I hope that helps.
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic thank you my friend!
@@knuckledustermusic thank you my friend!
@@nathanguitar4246 you're welcome!
How do you set it up to have a mic to talk into while also streaming the DAW output? like if I want to interact with someone on the far end while playing the sound from the daw?
Hi we’re you able to do this?
Hello! Thanks for the video. I've tried this and Black Hole, but can't seem to get it work correctly. I can only get one track to get signal in Zoom at a time. If I have the track selected in Logic, it is what feeds into Zoom. If it isn't selected, then I see and hear no signal. i.e. I cannot play keys and speak into the mic at the same time, etc. What am I missing? Thanks!
Hi there, you'll need to make sure that each track is either record enabled or input monitoring is selected (the little "R" and "I" on each track). I hope that helps. Cheers!
I have attempted to get my mic working how can I do this AS WELL as having the setting I followed? It didn't work - how can I get mic working AND the daw audio to work ?
If you've got your DAW audio working in OBS, you can either just add your audio interface as an "Audio Input Capture" source in OBS (make sure you're mic is plugged into channel 1 and you set it to mono in OBS). Or simply add an audio track in your DAW and use that as your vocal track.
Cheers
Georges
I tried the installation on Big Sur 11.6 but it failed. What to do?
For Big Sur you'll want to use Blackhole instead of Soundflower, but the instructions are the same.
existential.audio/blackhole/
hi there, thanks for your vid. I did everything EXACTLY like in your vid, but there's no sound coming in in Zoom when i set the Microphone to Soundflower 2 ch. Any idea what could 've gone wrong?
it's working now with Blackhole! appearantly soundflower 's got a sound flaw...
thanks for the help!
@@way2gomusic great! Glad you got it working. Cheers! Georges
Is this the same step for a 22 channel mixer?
If you have a digital mixer that acts as an interface in your DAW then yes. Everything gets mixed down to your 2 channel stereo out in your DAW before being sent to Zoom.
Cheers
Georges
Do we need to Download extra software s if interface has loopback function
Hey Binoj, which interface are you using?
@@knuckledustermusic Audient id4?
@@binojgeorge8079 with the Audient id4 you can use the loopback feature of the interface, so you don't need to install soundflower or blackhole. You'll need to set your output in your DAW to outputs 3/4. Set you microphone in Zoom to be inputs 3/4, and your speakers in Zoom to be outputs 1/2.
This video might help clarify the steps: ruclips.net/video/1wlRYzi4Ow4/видео.html
@@knuckledustermusic Thank you!
I try this in studio one, but isnt working. Any advice sir ??? Please help me
Hi Zul, can you let me know at which point you're getting stuck?
@@knuckledustermusic i use studio one DAW and follow step by step like in this video but isnt working in studio one DAW
@@zulmochammad1960 were you able to create your multi-output device? Which driver did you end up using (Soundflower or BlackHole)? Is the multi-output device showing as your output in Studio One? Is Soundflower or BlackHole showing up as your microphone in Zoom?
@@knuckledustermusic Yes i create a multi output device and the driver is soundflower same like yours. The Driver (Soundflower multioutput) show in my output in studio one,but when i try to play audio in S1 it not working i mean there is nothing sound out in my speaker.
@@zulmochammad1960 do you have an M1 chip or Intel Mac?
My obs isn’t seeing the multi device?
If you're trying to send your DAW audio to OBS then you'll want to set your audio output in your DAW to the multi-output device you created, and in OBS set your Audio Input Capture to be BlackHole or Soundflower (not the multi-output device).
I hope that helps.
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic first Thankyou so much for replying since this video is very old and second I think I finally figured that out.
@@DuesGibGolfandLife Glad you got it sorted!
@@knuckledustermusic I have sound going into obs but when I record and replay the recording there is no sound?
@@DuesGibGolfandLife check that you are recording audio to track 1 in the advanced audio settings. If you're recording to track 2 or 3 you likely won't be hearing it in the video playback.
It isn't working for me please need help
Hi Raphael, can you give me a bit more info about the issue? Which part of the process are you having problems with? Thanks.
You saved my life man! One thing though, when I talk, people don’t hear me if I don’t switch back to my Interface as Microphone. Is there a way for the others to both hear my voice and my Logic sound without switching back and forth? 😬
Add an audio track in your Logic Pro session and keep it record enabled. Use this as your talkback track.
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Thanks for the tip but I tried that but doesn't seem to work for me :( Only when I play back the track (if I actually press record) then it can be heard and if I just enable "Record" button and talk, there's no signal when I test the microphone if the Microphone to set to "Blackhole 2ch". Then if I switch the Mic to my interface then there's signal when I talk but I can't hear the recorded track in Logic haha
@@iamthaongo in that case you'll want to enable "input monitoring" on your vocal track by clicking the little "I" button on the track. If you're not seeing it, right click on your track and go to "Track Header Components->Input Monitoring".
Cheers
Georges
My friend@@knuckledustermusic , you're a real life savor! I really really appreciate your help!!! Cheers