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  • NewsNation obtained sealed affidavits into the death of Mica Miller, which dive into why she was hospitalized against her will.
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  • @SunWM99
    @SunWM99 25 дней назад +534

    Narcissists are good at gaslighting and lying to make their victims look crazy. RIP Mica

    • @yvettethomas5533
      @yvettethomas5533 24 дня назад +20

      So true!!! And I'm sorry this is a loooong reply. Had an exhusband (yes I said ex, because I was able to get away, THANK GOD) but did the same to me. Tricking me to go "somewhere, it's a surprise" but instead drove me to a hospital (Dr's Appt. that HE made) Yes, I should have stood my ground, but thought maybe since I was forcefully put here, I could talk to a Dr. about the abuse and where I broke down in tears to the Dr saying that he was driving me crazy, (I guess it was the wrong words to use) because it totally made me look crazy and she believed him over me. Prescribed me with meds. I was PISSED!!!! But, eventually, I picked up my "cahonas" 🤣🤣 (Yes I am laughing at that bc I am a female & my now husband laughed his a$$ off when I said that) Anyway, I finally stood my ground and got out. It was a very scary time at that point, VERY SCARY, but I made it out. Went to court without an Att. (he had an Att mind you) and the Judge granted a 3 yr RO, and threatend him with jail time if he violated it. It wasn't his 1st RO and the Judge knew it. Judge ripped his a$$!!! Had a nightmare that he broke into my house, and the end of the nightmare I thought I was dead. But, Thankfully, I am alive!!! To those out there that say "that would never happen to me", YES it can. It happened to me, and it has happened to alot of people who got out and alot of people that couldn't!!! And to those who say, why would stay with that person, I don't understand??? Hopefully you're never in that situation, because you will never understand!!!! Again, sorry that this comment was sooooooo long.

    • @Blankasafart113
      @Blankasafart113 24 дня назад +9

      Then they have reactive abuse and labeled crazy

    • @batubop651
      @batubop651 24 дня назад

      @@yvettethomas5533don’t apologize for a long reply. The more stories like yours people hear and read, the more it will help others in similar situations recognize signs and patterns they or a loved one may also be experiencing is actually abuse, and understand they too may be in danger. It also allows them to not feel so alone or ‘crazy’. Thank for sharing your story. I’m so sorry you had to live through that, but so glad you’re free from him now, it takes enormous strength and courage to get away. Sadly not everyone has the sheer luck, or necessary support system that are also often crucial elements in many cases too. Wishing you all the very best going forward, you most certainly deserve it!

    • @kristinfaul2883
      @kristinfaul2883 24 дня назад +6

      Yes happened to me

    • @stephanie3087
      @stephanie3087 24 дня назад +13

      Made to look and feel crazy too!! Being gaslit by a narcissist is mental torture

  • @jujubees711
    @jujubees711 25 дней назад +615

    She suffered mental health issues because she was traumatized from abuse

    • @kristenmc-grubb2088
      @kristenmc-grubb2088 25 дней назад +50

      Yes. Psychological abuse can wreck a person's mental health.

    • @xx_Joker_xx
      @xx_Joker_xx 25 дней назад +1

      Sadly, I believe this to be a case of extreme narcissistic abuse. If you are not familiar with those kinds of dynamics, look into narcissistic abuse. A narcissist must have control of the other person. When they feel they are losing that control, they will do anything and everything to regain the control. I don't mean to project, but I am a victim of narcissistic abuse myself... and I see the indications clearly. They will manipulate and gas light their victims to no end... causing a victim question their own sanity. It can be really, really bad.

    • @tamtam777
      @tamtam777 25 дней назад +33

      yep, being around a real "crazy person" can make u feel crazy...

    • @xx_Joker_xx
      @xx_Joker_xx 25 дней назад +11

      @@tamtam777 so true!

    • @denisedevoto5703
      @denisedevoto5703 24 дня назад +15

      Absolutely. I think a lot of people don't understand that the type of abuse Mica suffered causes depression and anxiety.

  • @LisaLynnTx
    @LisaLynnTx 25 дней назад +462

    She suffered from mental and physical abuse she wasn't crazy.

    • @kristenmc-grubb2088
      @kristenmc-grubb2088 25 дней назад +30

      Sexual abuse as well.

    • @xx_Joker_xx
      @xx_Joker_xx 25 дней назад +1

      Sadly, I believe this to be a case of extreme narcissistic abuse. If you are not familiar with those kinds of dynamics, look into narcissistic abuse. A narcissist must have control of the other person. When they feel they are losing that control, they will do anything and everything to regain the control. I don't mean to project, but I am a victim of narcissistic abuse myself... and I see the indications clearly. They will manipulate and gas light their victims to no end... causing a victim question their own sanity. It can be really, really bad.

    • @SV-tj7mm
      @SV-tj7mm 24 дня назад +2

      he suffered greatly from her abuse

    • @nakitah443
      @nakitah443 24 дня назад +7

      @@SV-tj7mmshe wasn’t abusive 😂😂 give me a break.

    • @x77punk77x
      @x77punk77x 24 дня назад +6

      @@SV-tj7mm
      Stay far away from all women. 👍🏻

  • @teegees
    @teegees 25 дней назад +229

    There is so much evidence of this guy being a deceitful abuser. The root cause of her death is 100% this guy.

    • @mmhthree
      @mmhthree 25 дней назад +12

      So my friend who killed himself over a woman... should something be done about her??? I don't think so.... it's on him and him alone.

    • @teegees
      @teegees 24 дня назад +1

      @@mmhthree I hear you. But brainwashing is real. He had been brainwashing her for at least a decade. This is how suicide bombers are made btw....

    • @phillypheeling
      @phillypheeling 24 дня назад +2

      ​@@mmhthreeI agree

    • @CheeTooTheeBee
      @CheeTooTheeBee 24 дня назад +5

      @@mmhthreeThis woman was horribly abused, harassed, stalked, manipulated, controlled, and groomed by him from childhood to adulthood.
      You’re not a psychologist and what all happened to Mica hasn’t been revealed. We’re just getting snippets here and there.

    • @CheeTooTheeBee
      @CheeTooTheeBee 24 дня назад +12

      @@mmhthreeIt your friend was stalked, harassed, and abused incessantly, to a point he couldn’t take living anymore, I’d say his ex was to blame.

  • @tansywelsh1636
    @tansywelsh1636 25 дней назад +521

    I absolutely think JP abused her and tortured her in every way. I think her husband had everything to do with her death. Its just proving it. I hope Mica gets justice.

    • @suncatcher87
      @suncatcher87 25 дней назад +3

      Did he kill her?

    • @xx_Joker_xx
      @xx_Joker_xx 25 дней назад +1

      Sadly, I believe this to be a case of extreme narcissistic abuse. If you are not familiar with those kinds of dynamics, look into narcissistic abuse. A narcissist must have control of the other person. When they feel they are losing that control, they will do anything and everything to regain the control. I don't mean to project, but I am a victim of narcissistic abuse myself... and I see the indications clearly. They will manipulate and gas light their victims to no end... causing a victim question their own sanity. It can be really, really bad. They can even make their victims pull the trigger themselves.

    • @alchemistkingdickinson2256
      @alchemistkingdickinson2256 25 дней назад

      I saw preacher saying he had tracking device on her car to try and keep her from purchasing a GUN! IS THAT TRUTH REALITY? Stranger hears her crying and pow? She calls 911 right before she did it? Purchases the gun right before she did it? ID BE SEVERELY SHOCKED IF SHE DIDNT MURDER HERSELF!!! NOWAY POSSIBLE SHE WAS BEING THREATENED BY SOMEBODY AND NOT TALKING OR WOULDNT SAY SOMETHING ON 911 CALL!! SHE DID VERY BAD SIN MEET GOD!!! SHE HAD FREE WILL USED IT TO MURDER HERSELF IN MY HONEST OPINION!!!

    • @Jeanne90275
      @Jeanne90275 25 дней назад +8

      ​@@suncatcher87No, she killed herself.

    • @papersongs3482
      @papersongs3482 24 дня назад +4

      Absolutely agree with you

  • @travelwithsouthernchick5112
    @travelwithsouthernchick5112 25 дней назад +282

    So her husband abandoned, abuse her and played a good husband in front of people and had a new girlfriend and this is not normal!!

    • @snicksabea
      @snicksabea 25 дней назад +16

      Don’t forget her first husband drowned in a pool when they were having an affair.

    • @user-ux3qu7mr2m
      @user-ux3qu7mr2m 24 дня назад +13

      He didn't even play good husband, everyone knew he was shit.

    • @user-ux3qu7mr2m
      @user-ux3qu7mr2m 24 дня назад +11

      ​​​@@snicksabea
      If you look into Susie's husband, he was found in the community pool at 8am.
      So it happened over night but here is the best part.
      He was paralyzed from the neck down.

    • @ScoobyDooby1luv
      @ScoobyDooby1luv 24 дня назад

      @@user-ux3qu7mr2m;
      Yes, and this was within the year. It was classified as a “Mysterious” Death ……
      I’m sure NOW that the F.B.I. Is investigating, this will be circled again.
      As will Millers, NEW Tires on his TRUCK, and RIMS. 😮
      I don’t think that death, was an accident either. js

    • @constancedenchy9801
      @constancedenchy9801 24 дня назад +6

      It's exactly what my ex-husband did to me

  • @norainocentes2175
    @norainocentes2175 25 дней назад +215

    Even family of Mica this Pastor was harassing,he was the one who has mental issue not Mica.

  • @mariadominguez116
    @mariadominguez116 25 дней назад +141

    That man is an absolute monster. Lock him up!

    • @jeremywilson1155
      @jeremywilson1155 25 дней назад +3

      Definitely not a pastor

    • @OyVey-
      @OyVey- 25 дней назад

      @@jeremywilson1155 maybe a noodle

    • @jeremywilson1155
      @jeremywilson1155 25 дней назад

      @@OyVey- poodle for a noodle 🤷

    • @OyVey-
      @OyVey- 25 дней назад +1

      @@jeremywilson1155 if not pasta then maybe a noodle

    • @luraemerick7567
      @luraemerick7567 25 дней назад +5

      A wolf in sheep's clothing.

  • @terrys.1401
    @terrys.1401 25 дней назад +94

    HE'S the one that sounds bi-polar!

    • @zuuumbaaa
      @zuuumbaaa 24 дня назад +2

      No, it's just plain entitlement taken to an evil level.

    • @x77punk77x
      @x77punk77x 24 дня назад +5

      Narc

    • @candiburns1185
      @candiburns1185 24 дня назад +1

      I believe I read somewhere that someone said it was confirmed that he was?! Poor Mica 😢

  • @Supraordinare
    @Supraordinare 25 дней назад +105

    Wow he is good at "gaslighting" . I bet he truly thinks he is smarter than the detectives. Living in a delusion.

    • @saintxofalltime584
      @saintxofalltime584 24 дня назад +2

      If he walks, he is smarter than the detectives…

    • @Supraordinare
      @Supraordinare 24 дня назад +2

      @@saintxofalltime584 psycho and sociopaths tend to have a false sense of grandeur is what I am implying. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

  • @TheBobelly628
    @TheBobelly628 25 дней назад +68

    Living like this would push anyone over the edge. I’ve heard of a lot of tragedies but what happened to this woman really grieves my heart. I’m glad the truth is coming out. He never expected anyone would find out how he treated her and now the whole world knows.

  • @angiepulgarin5438
    @angiepulgarin5438 25 дней назад +213

    He needs to go to jail!

    • @Goldwing1
      @Goldwing1 24 дня назад +6

      No Bail

    • @phillypheeling
      @phillypheeling 24 дня назад +6

      What would he be charged with? Being a horrible husband isn't exactly against the law

    • @stephanie3087
      @stephanie3087 24 дня назад +8

      Harassment, stalking, destruction of private property, defamation, and probably much much more.

    • @phillypheeling
      @phillypheeling 24 дня назад +3

      @@stephanie3087 misdemeanors....a fine and a week in jail

    • @Michael-le5ph
      @Michael-le5ph 24 дня назад

      @@phillypheeling threatening people saying he had a weapon and was coming to their home. try that in SC and see what it gets you.

  • @mickeyandres2651
    @mickeyandres2651 25 дней назад +78

    This man definitely needs to be investigated…….

  • @queensatoshi1168
    @queensatoshi1168 25 дней назад +158

    I would not be surprised if she was forced to make the suicide phone call at gun point by her husband. Are his whereabouts clear when this call was made?

    • @MsDropofrain
      @MsDropofrain 25 дней назад +80

      well, I've seen some reports that he (supposedly) was away at a sporting event with his new girlfriend. We only saw his truck with heavily tinted windows. No other sightings of him, no pictures, no eyewitnesses. I would not believe his female "friend". Her husband (a disabled man paralyzed from neck down) "accidentaly" drowned in a community pool at 8 am. and JP was the one who officiated his funeral. There are so many twisted details in this story, enough to make a Lifetime movie.

    • @jessylynn5846
      @jessylynn5846 25 дней назад +57

      I agree. If not him , someone he got to do it for him. She was found in the water , gun in the water. They didn’t do a full autopsy. Did not do a tox screening , did not check for gunshot residue, water in the lungs etc. Then he just cremated her so fast. So now nothing can be done. Her 911 call was eerily calm. Feels like someone is with her. Imo

    • @wildanimus2559
      @wildanimus2559 25 дней назад +27

      @@jessylynn5846 Yeah, I thought that was suspicious, too.

    • @libby9574
      @libby9574 25 дней назад +39

      Well, the tell for me was when she made the 911 call, and didn't know exactly what state park she was in.
      You better believe, people who kill themselves know exactly where they are going to do it, it's planned. I'm not
      saying it is always this way, but tend to go to comforting and somewhat familiar locations.
      Also, there was a recently half eaten sandwich found in the car. The last thing I'd be thinking about is eating, knowing that I'm exiting this world....

    • @queensatoshi1168
      @queensatoshi1168 25 дней назад +11

      @@libby9574 very true. I hope the police is finally having a close look.

  • @aliceinoregonland3942
    @aliceinoregonland3942 24 дня назад +53

    Where was everyone, when JP was developing an inappropriate friendship with a 14 year old. He was 28 and married with 5 kids! Where was her family, where were the leaders and elders of JP's church at this time?

    • @deniseganey6890
      @deniseganey6890 24 дня назад +3

      Mica told the Church members that she was unhappy at home .A number of families took her in . JP bought cars for her as a teenager and helped financially I'm sure . How did hercParents allow all of this to go on ?

    • @Memg007
      @Memg007 24 дня назад +4

      She was married too. She started sleeping with JP while she was married to a very nice guy who was also a member of that church. Why do you picture her as an angel who was brainwashed? It's the curse they brought on themselves.

    • @Memg007
      @Memg007 24 дня назад

      @@deniseganey6890Do you know that she was married before JP right?? Then she cheated on her husband with JP while she was a praise and worship leader in that church. Get the truth straight please

    • @t4r478
      @t4r478 24 дня назад

      @@Memg007I’m not sure if this is accurate, but if it is I agree.
      If what you say is true, she is no victim at all.

    • @Memg007
      @Memg007 24 дня назад

      @@t4r478 I encourage you to read it yourself, daily mail news is one of them. Because we don’t want something to be true doesn’t mean it’s not true. You can also see photos there of their previous spouses. Truly speaking I wanted to vomit when I read it and felt so cheated because I was running with that “groomed little girl” narrative all along.

  • @racheltabron2086
    @racheltabron2086 25 дней назад +156

    This John Paul should never have the privilege of standing behind a pulpit again!
    Is he even ordained by any Christian organization, or is he a self proclaimed minister?

    • @waitwhat564
      @waitwhat564 25 дней назад +13

      Self proclaimed I've heard

    • @FaithandNova
      @FaithandNova 25 дней назад +17

      Majority of pastors nowadays are self proclaimed.

    • @alicegovender8129
      @alicegovender8129 24 дня назад +21

      Self appointed he need deliverance he is not man of God no character of God in him

    • @fredbarnesjr.1044
      @fredbarnesjr.1044 24 дня назад +8

      Nope not ordained at all, no theology degree which is very common with these modern churches

    • @stephanie3087
      @stephanie3087 24 дня назад +7

      Oh god 🙄
      This should be a regulated profession, with protected titles at this point. (Protected titles because if you use them in a regulated profession, the regulating bodies can take disciplinary action)

  • @AivaDingau
    @AivaDingau 24 дня назад +36

    Omg. This sounds just like my ex. He would throw my stuff out of the house telling me to gtf out and moment I would start collecting my stuff he would fall on his knees crying and begging to stay. It didn't take long to notice red flags, but was too late because I moved to live with him and my every move was under surveillance even by his friends. He also went to people and told everyone I was crazy and have mental problems. One year later I managed to escape and flew to my parents. Weeks later I was still uncontrollably crying and shaking. Got diagnosed clinical depression and PTSD. Now year later I'm still on one type of meds (other two not needed anymore), but got my life back. Couldn't be happier I managed to escape. Poor beautiful young lady. Rest in peace Mica.

    • @bluecube7247
      @bluecube7247 24 дня назад +1

      You are lucky... my mom was murdered... while trying to leave

    • @AivaDingau
      @AivaDingau 24 дня назад +1

      ​@@bluecube7247I'm so sorry 😢

  • @mothersgauri4137
    @mothersgauri4137 25 дней назад +60

    This is SO typical of sick, narcissistic abusers. After the abuse, the big turn around...."Oh, I didn't mean it, I'm so sorry, I'll never do it again. Please forgive me. I love you so much." And then....but, you know I did it because of what you did to me and it was really your fault. But ...... and on and on. The gaslighting and manipulation.....
    This man is CLEARLY a very sick man, and more and more evidence of that keeps coming out. Apparently his father is also corrupt.....like perhaps the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. There are so many crimes that have been going on, and clearly the local people and authorities there have been manipulated to "enable" the crimes and abuse . The FBI, or some outside agency has GOT to help get justice.

    • @wildanimus2559
      @wildanimus2559 25 дней назад +9

      If they can't have and control you, they'll destroy you.

    • @johanna9729
      @johanna9729 25 дней назад +3

      This is the exact definition!

    • @mmhthree
      @mmhthree 25 дней назад

      They're both toxic... we don't know what her behavior was. Going on and off psych meds can be a big deal, and create a ton of problems. Not sure why he is the only one blamed. It's takes two, folks... both are toxic!!!

    • @mothersgauri4137
      @mothersgauri4137 25 дней назад +6

      @@mmhthree I hope you will be willing to look more into this case. Hear what her family is explaining, close friends, and also what is being revealed through documents and receipts. It's clear she was being gaslite into him trying to make her appear "mental" because she was trying to leave him....and she was also trying to document his criminal behaviors. And it seems he was forcing her on meds. She was fine according to everyone else that knew her. I also hope you will be willing to look at what is coming out about JP's dad. Clearly both JP and his dad have serious sexual problems.....abuse of minors, child trafficking, and a whole pile of other criminal behaviors already documented. And they've been manipulating the authorities in the area....also documented.

    • @mothersgauri4137
      @mothersgauri4137 25 дней назад +3

      @@mmhthree When there is abuse, it takes two.....one who is abusing, and one who is abused. This is not about a "normal" couple who have disagreements. You need to educate yourself on how abuse works before trying to judge a situation.

  • @ronaldron4829
    @ronaldron4829 25 дней назад +76

    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK... DONT STOP LOOKING INTO THIS... SOMETHING SMELLS AND IT HAS JP ALL OVER IT.

    • @amandahawkins1389
      @amandahawkins1389 24 дня назад +1

      He is guilty for sure!

    • @thiskneegrow
      @thiskneegrow 24 дня назад

      Uh huh…she axed herself. Keep crying

    • @ronaldron4829
      @ronaldron4829 24 дня назад

      @@thiskneegrow goes way way deeper than that... she was controlled... you wait and see.

  • @whitney9810
    @whitney9810 25 дней назад +37

    Why is the legal system not doing anything about this situation?

    • @JewandGreek
      @JewandGreek 25 дней назад +7

      Because no laws were broken?

    • @mmhthree
      @mmhthree 25 дней назад +4

      So, if it was a man who killed himself because of a crazy female abuser.. would you say the same thing?? Somehow, I doubt you would.

    • @boxesbinslidsllc
      @boxesbinslidsllc 24 дня назад +1

      ​@JewandGreek Stalking is a crime. Her medical power of attorney was her father and brother and he twisted to appear that he was. The FBI is involved likely connected to the finances and allegations of sexual attraction to minors.

    • @boxesbinslidsllc
      @boxesbinslidsllc 24 дня назад +11

      ​@@mmhthreeActually the case where the girl pressured the guy to unalive himself, she did go to jail.

    • @SS11660
      @SS11660 24 дня назад +1

      They need evidence of breaking a law.

  • @chilloften
    @chilloften 25 дней назад +21

    JP was crazy and unhinged. Power & control=abuser.
    Poor Mica saw no relief, no way out of it. It makes me ill. This man needs to be held accountable.

  • @danab.3531
    @danab.3531 24 дня назад +8

    Anyone would be having issues dealing with this EMOTIONAL ABUSE. I hope JP has an appearance in court soon.

  • @Memg007
    @Memg007 24 дня назад +12

    Now let's hear from Mica’s former husband who was also a close friend of JP, who was betrayed by both. Mica started cheating on him with JP while she was a worship and praise leader and JP was a pastor. Let's talk about it. They were mocking God all along. And the reason JP’s former wife filed for divorce was because she caught them both red-handed.

  • @doreenchindezwa6319
    @doreenchindezwa6319 24 дня назад +15

    The gaslighting in his memorial service speech off the charts.

  • @Aimee-mf9zl
    @Aimee-mf9zl 25 дней назад +20

    5:00 I believe her husband abused her so badly and twists everything with lies, manipulations, games, gaslighting and more
    I have lived in this abuse and I am so fed up also witnessing how the damn authorities could care less when someone goes to you repeatedly for help. It's too late when you are no longer here. I pray to God my life will matter for all I have been preparing for to speak out about this abuse. It's disgusting and they drive your life into the ground

  • @cindydenning1502
    @cindydenning1502 24 дня назад +5

    My ex did the same thing to me, had me committed to a mental health facility and had my father convinced I was unstable. It's all about control. I survived my exs abuse and am living a very happy life for the past 15 years on my own. Now my ex is in bad shape physically and mentally and wants my help. Can't do that again.

  • @emskeeeee
    @emskeeeee 24 дня назад +4

    This is sociopathic narcissistic behavior. Anyone who has been through it knows she is a victim here.

  • @thunstrom62
    @thunstrom62 25 дней назад +58

    I think he was trying to do things to make her look crazy so that later he can do things and people won't think twice. Cause she already tried b4 how's this different...but really he did it not her. Just my opinion

    • @DM-vl1tv
      @DM-vl1tv 25 дней назад +1

      I think that he did all of this so it would look like suicide. I am still not convinced he didn't do it.

    • @constancedenchy9801
      @constancedenchy9801 24 дня назад +5

      Exactly this is what narcissists do

    • @a.humphries8678
      @a.humphries8678 24 дня назад +3

      It's called "crazy making"

    • @thiskneegrow
      @thiskneegrow 24 дня назад

      She was crazy…

  • @mebhi2
    @mebhi2 25 дней назад +32

    Such evil that hides behind GOD!

  • @Kellywaterman22
    @Kellywaterman22 25 дней назад +28

    ❤❤❤❤❤ #JusticeforMica
    Micas's Army

  • @heiders8488
    @heiders8488 25 дней назад +23

    It is probable that she presented with mental health issues because of narcissistic abuse, which i believe is the case.

    • @kay4725
      @kay4725 25 дней назад +4

      Agreed.

    • @deniseganey6890
      @deniseganey6890 24 дня назад

      More likely suffered from a chemical imbalance that went untreated for years. A healthy, rational human being does not Submit to Surgery which they do not want or need .

    • @formerlyfromthefuton8171
      @formerlyfromthefuton8171 24 дня назад

      Or because of her own sins, including the adulterous affair she had with JP which led to their marriage.

    • @bbloodyangel1
      @bbloodyangel1 24 дня назад +4

      @@formerlyfromthefuton8171 that's a gross thing to say. he groomed her since she was 14. she was not "sinning" she needed help

    • @formerlyfromthefuton8171
      @formerlyfromthefuton8171 24 дня назад +1

      @@bbloodyangel1 Your handle is apropos.

  • @kimberlymiller655
    @kimberlymiller655 24 дня назад +5

    He has a mental issue not her. This is disgustingly horrible and dishonorable.

    • @sneksteppy
      @sneksteppy 23 дня назад

      Hmm well she is the one who self-deleted, so I'm finna bet that he's perhaps LESS stable than she was lol. Seriously, Kimmy, how are you even finna say that with a straight face?

  • @prympammi
    @prympammi 25 дней назад +31

    That poor girl 😿 he went to all ends to torment her poor thing😿😿

  • @heathercloete7450
    @heathercloete7450 24 дня назад +13

    This congregation need to have serious second thoughts about him as pastor.

  • @johanna9729
    @johanna9729 25 дней назад +13

    He is a psycho

  • @amandahawkins1389
    @amandahawkins1389 24 дня назад +6

    Thank you NewsNation! JUSTICE FOR MICA!

  • @FaeriseSegrims
    @FaeriseSegrims 24 дня назад +6

    Once you get insnared in the web of a narcissistic abuser it is really hard to get out of it. I went through a similar situation in my early 20s and he almost killed me by smothering me with a pillow while I was sleeping. I did have to go to the hospital because he was stalking and harassing me to the point that I had a mental break and then moved back in with my parents afterwards to get away from him. If he didn’t pull the trigger himself, he did drive her to do it. It was her only way out. JUSTICE FOR MICA!!!!!

  • @jodi-bethfelton3696
    @jodi-bethfelton3696 25 дней назад +34

    Thanks for keeping on this! The truth is coming out. What a psycho...acts however he wants then asking for forgiveness like a " good" Christian.

    • @sneksteppy
      @sneksteppy 23 дня назад

      Yes, how dare he act however he wants. Like, what? This is still a free country, Jodi.

  • @LegumesEtFleurs
    @LegumesEtFleurs 24 дня назад +17

    Wow! His texts and messages are not all coming form a Godly individual. He sounds like very vengeful and full of hatred that Mica, for sure was so afraid of him. He is someone who does not accept no for an answer and who could not let go of someone peacefully. He is a vile person. Full of pretense. A demon in disguise. I so loathe this person for what he did to her.

  • @NealaExtra
    @NealaExtra 25 дней назад +30

    WOW just WOW

  • @robynearl6915
    @robynearl6915 24 дня назад +5

    Heartbreaking seeing her sweet face and knowing that a monster is the reason she is gone. Her poor friends and family. Ugh, what a huge loss. I'm so sorry sweet Mica. ❤

  • @scaleworksRC
    @scaleworksRC 25 дней назад +30

    Horrible. She was so beautiful too.

  • @nighthawktt
    @nighthawktt 24 дня назад +10

    Thank you NewsNation for sharing more information on Mica Miller 💐

  • @estaisadore6188
    @estaisadore6188 24 дня назад +2

    Thanks news nation...for all the hard work...😊

  • @Thismamabear
    @Thismamabear 25 дней назад +43

    This guy is such a villan. I cant believe hes a pastor.

    • @suncatcher87
      @suncatcher87 25 дней назад +3

      All pastors and their wives are villains. They were a codependent team.

    • @wildanimus2559
      @wildanimus2559 25 дней назад +10

      Many wolves in sheeps' clothing out there.

    • @createone100
      @createone100 25 дней назад +4

      Oh, I can. I can.

    • @scaleworksRC
      @scaleworksRC 25 дней назад +5

      Very, very few real ones out there.

  • @pinecedar180
    @pinecedar180 25 дней назад +32

    Murder? How did the law not get involved earlier?

    • @deidreanderson8968
      @deidreanderson8968 24 дня назад +1

      No. She called 911 to tell them where she could be found. Murdered in a round about kind of way

  • @mignonbaricevic36
    @mignonbaricevic36 24 дня назад +16

    Why aren't churches, hospitals, police, etc not trained appropriately on warning sign of coercive abuse?! I was also painted as crazy for years. It was so terrifying. There was another case recently where a lady was taken by an ex to a hospital. I think he was a policeman so they believed him. Thankfully they figured him out relatively quickly. Mica was not crazy. She was living with a controlling, narcissistic psychopath

    • @someonelikeme543
      @someonelikeme543 24 дня назад +1

      I’ve wondered that, too. I’m sorry for what happened to you.

  • @SS11660
    @SS11660 24 дня назад +5

    He worked a long time to try to convince her that she was crazy. A real manipulator.

  • @ashleykirby9591
    @ashleykirby9591 24 дня назад +4

    This poor lady went through hell . And nothing was done to him . He going to do this again to another women .

  • @fitrunner1317
    @fitrunner1317 24 дня назад +5

    How did this guy even become a pastor is beyond me!

    • @estaisadore6188
      @estaisadore6188 24 дня назад +1

      So tragic..cuz sure he hurting many ...

    • @estaisadore6188
      @estaisadore6188 24 дня назад +1

      So tragic..cuz sure he hurting many ...

  • @libby9574
    @libby9574 25 дней назад +12

    Wonder how much insurance money he had on her. I'd also be investigating the new black widow girlfriend along those lines.
    Especially when he told the congregation.."Don't stop giving" RED FLAG

    • @deniseganey6890
      @deniseganey6890 24 дня назад

      Haven't seen anything in regards to her Estate or possible Insurance Policy. One Sister stepped in and tried to be appointed as Conservator. Nothing more on this .

  • @IndigobluBeauty
    @IndigobluBeauty 24 дня назад +6

    Oh. My. Goodness….I hope he faces justice🤬

  • @Anna-pz9ry
    @Anna-pz9ry 24 дня назад +4

    The other pastor who helped commit her needs to be investigated

  • @DadRockProject
    @DadRockProject 24 дня назад +3

    That poor woman. Breaks my heart. He needs to be in jail.

  • @Nobody-dp5xo
    @Nobody-dp5xo 24 дня назад +4

    Its so frustrating it just sounds like there will be no justice. I hope Mica is at peace but she deserves justice, that monster does not have a right to walk around and enjoy him life after everything he did.

  • @almondleslie1410
    @almondleslie1410 25 дней назад +14

    Victim blaming is so gross. Nobody ever helps abused people its always too late. I hate this place. I'm so sorry beautiful..

    • @FaeriseSegrims
      @FaeriseSegrims 24 дня назад +1

      I agree with you 100% blaming the victim after they are dead is so disrespectful…..and unfair because they cant defend against it.

  • @warcraftaddict117
    @warcraftaddict117 24 дня назад +3

    THANK YOU NEWS NATION AND INDEED ALL of you working so tirelessly and diligently on this case. I am praying that the Lord bring things into the light. I didn't even know Micah but as a abuse survivor and a Christian, I am praying safety for Micah's daughters and her family and I pray that all plans of the enemy be stopped in its tracks and any evidence helpful to the case be brought foreword--asap. May the Truth prevail and may justice prevail.

  • @jamesclark9347
    @jamesclark9347 25 дней назад +10

    The other men in her life. Father brother, uncles should have stepped up!

    • @deniseganey6890
      @deniseganey6890 24 дня назад +4

      Yes,a grown, married Man with children should never be allowed such access to a 14 year old girl . Ever .

    • @Coffeelover4evr
      @Coffeelover4evr 24 дня назад +2

      She should have been protected.

  • @tinajenkins8410
    @tinajenkins8410 24 дня назад +2

    That poor woman escaped the ONLY way she thought she could 😢
    I'm so thankful my daughter is still alive, and pray one day she gets complete peace from her narcissistic ex.

  • @user-xe6yl5ys1s
    @user-xe6yl5ys1s 24 дня назад +14

    He has FIVE (5) children from his first wife. That's a lot of mouth to feed, besides paying alimony.
    Any woman messing with this "JOKER" is looking for trouble.

    • @macnchessplz
      @macnchessplz 24 дня назад

      Oldest child is from one woman.The other four is from his previous wife right bf Mica.
      That’s A Lot for a very young woman to deal with.JP already had a full adult life and full family while Mica’s adult life was just starting.
      Add in his position in that “church” to the power imbalance.She too made poor choices….
      He had over a decade more adult life experience than she did.

  • @brightpage1020
    @brightpage1020 24 дня назад +7

    This guy sounds so dangerous!

    • @sneksteppy
      @sneksteppy 23 дня назад

      Yes, the guy that never harmed anyone is dangerous. The woman who hamred herself is totally not dangerous. Welcome to 2024 where logic doesn't matter. You can say whatever you want, even if it contradicts basic reality.

    • @brightpage1020
      @brightpage1020 23 дня назад

      @@sneksteppy so you’re Team Stalker, then?
      Ask any investigator or campus safety officer at your local residential college or university. They will tell you stalkers, trackers - are generally often just as if not more dangerous than simple assault or do cases - and often evidence illustrates pre-planning and forethought.
      Maybe research narcissistic abuse while you’re commenting, so you can make well informed statements, next time?

  • @Charmander009
    @Charmander009 25 дней назад +13

    Everyone in America has the right to refuse medication . You can’t force someone to take meds so how was he able to bypass this law and have her committed . She should have never went to these shrinks in first place , then she wouldn’t have even been prescribed anything . Power of attorney should only apply if mica is in a coma or some sever condition where she can’t speak for her self

    • @Kellywaterman22
      @Kellywaterman22 25 дней назад +1

      I think it's that the state has laws that are severely unjust!

    • @Kellywaterman22
      @Kellywaterman22 25 дней назад +3

      It doesn't make sense how he had the authority to do all of that to Mica, without her consent.

    • @KiKi-tf8rv
      @KiKi-tf8rv 24 дня назад +1

      Well, we should have the right to refuse medication. The pandemic proved that isn’t the case.

    • @sneksteppy
      @sneksteppy 23 дня назад +1

      Except for *that* medication, right sweetie?

  • @mimiseeyou
    @mimiseeyou 24 дня назад +4

    He wanted a phonecall from her because that’s how they control you. Pressure. Threats. At this stage of the investigation, I’m wondering if he didn’t threaten to hurt her family if she didn’t unalive.

  • @greencat1976
    @greencat1976 24 дня назад +2

    I hope this will be further investigated by the authorities. He can't get away with it.

  • @Jenahh-aye
    @Jenahh-aye 24 дня назад +3

    Its repulsive that he wasnt in jail already for this prior psycho behavior.

  • @switch1237
    @switch1237 25 дней назад +7

    The husband is a monster.

  • @MicheleVincent-CovingtonKY
    @MicheleVincent-CovingtonKY 25 дней назад +6

    Yet again NO ARREST!!

  • @Holy.HannaH
    @Holy.HannaH 24 дня назад +4

    Ya know, they're finding it hard to find which laws he violated but I think if they stop looking at smaller state statutes and look at our constitution instead, he violated her right to pursue life, liberty, and happeniness.

  • @marcelaruzicka9949
    @marcelaruzicka9949 24 дня назад +2

    What a sad story, we really have to be careful when someone claims to be a pastor.

  • @likehiroshima
    @likehiroshima 24 дня назад +2

    i'm not sure if its criminal but they need to hit his pockets in a civil suit.

  • @1212salsera
    @1212salsera 24 дня назад +2

    Sister said main reason was for him to get access to her phone and delete all incriminating information

  • @juliaweber212
    @juliaweber212 25 дней назад +6

    He's a monster

  • @lotusbreeze6229
    @lotusbreeze6229 25 дней назад +12

    This still doesn't explain somethings. First, depending on the state, that I'm aware of, you can't check your family member involuntary. I'd like to see the assessments and reason she was at that hospital to begin with. Meaning why would she agree to go with him to hospital or clinic. What I am saying is she is admitting she was on meds...ok for what? Was she conserved? In my state, power of attorney does not give a person the right to dump their family at hospital. If you're conserved that's different. You're conserved by the state. I've had many family members call and say I have power of attorney over my family member either as an attempt to discharge them or admit them. Power of attorney does not mean their conserved and then the family member makes all the medical decisions psychiatrically. In order for somebody to have stood 3 days they're usually on a hold and the hold comes from a professionals and then patient is reevaluated by psychiatrist to see if the hold is valid. I'm really sorry I get what's happening but a lot of these accusations on both sides are very vague. There's nothing that I've seen that's clearing up a lot of questions. I don't know if this was an affidavit so much as it was again pointed to John Paul and her family disagreeing on something. But my question is why was she there? Did he drive herself to hospital? Did he call the cops? Did the cops pick her up? Do we have any of those documents from the hospital? What did they observe? Because I know from working in a psych hospital 7 years we did not hold anybody just because a family member said so. We were under high liability for lawsuits so even if they arrived, a lot of times if it was unfounded they were gone in 24 hours because a psychiatrist can break the hold. Or if they were evaluated for 24 hours and again it was unfounded. They were released right away. I noticed it looks like she was there about 3 days so was she on a hold??
    There's just a lot of unanswered questions and again I'm just curious. Like what medication was she on and for what diagnosis? Because I know medication also can make depressive symptoms worse and some medications can cause suicidal thoughts and increase suicidal tendencies.

    • @Kellywaterman22
      @Kellywaterman22 25 дней назад +2

      Sounds like she had a 72 involuntary hold, he committed her, it was said before but I agree with you, we want to see if she signed voluntarily or was she forced.
      JP said he took her car away so she wouldn't hurt herself and he stated she has attempted her life before.

    • @Kellywaterman22
      @Kellywaterman22 25 дней назад

      Her sister Sierra on videos discussed JP committing Mica against her will. I'm going to watch it again for clarification.

    • @forerunner7
      @forerunner7 24 дня назад

      Mica is was a pretty strong and athletic person. He had to of DONE something to her to take her there AGAINST her will! Drug her maybe? Because if you knew her, she could take care of herself and certainly fight off an attempt to be dragged to a psych ward against her will. Maybe she was drugged and incapacitated, so he told the hospital some story as if "she was a danger to herself" so they'd keep her? He's been setting the narrative this whole time to desparge her reputation with accusations of mental health. The FBI needs to investigate the circumstances surrounding her being admitted and WHAT was her state upon arriving.

    • @deniseganey6890
      @deniseganey6890 24 дня назад +1

      A Patient must stay on meds and follow through on theraphy . She was in a very vulnerable time in her life, making changes for the future not needed not to be alone. Can't believe she was cleared to buy a run and Ammunition so soon after being committed .

    • @lotusbreeze6229
      @lotusbreeze6229 20 дней назад

      I think her family and JP 's representatives are always going to say different things. I haven't seen anything with hard evidence. I haven't seen any documentation. It's just their word, his word when what's really really sad and unfortunate that somebody took her life. Suicide doesn't make sense. It's not linear. It's not black and white. I've heard it a thousand times or more family and friends saying he she wouldn't have done this because they were happy they planned this or that. Suicide is an impulsive act. It's terrible.

  • @skyoak4611
    @skyoak4611 25 дней назад +9

    Wow and supposedly she had the mental problems it seems it was the other way around.
    So sad he pastored a church he should have just sat in the pews and sought the Lord. He definitely didn’t line up his choices with the Bible.
    One reason to know the Bible yourself. This is a wolf in sheep clothing.
    This story is so sad.
    If anything this story will make a difference moving forward.
    This beautiful girl’s life and battles won’t go in vain.
    God is revealing the hidden sins like he said he would.
    Awareness’s are being made known to many and I’m Sure this family that was isolated by this man is feeling love and support from thousands of people during this very difficult time.
    God said he will turn bad things into good. Hopefully donations are being made to shelters or churches are looking closer at staff and people trapped in these types of relationships are getting help. And awareness for mental health

  • @tasha4052
    @tasha4052 24 дня назад +5

    This is only my opinion. I'm not an expert. Just a person sharing their thoughts & opinions....
    I've just started following this case tonight, so I'm only a few videos in but I'd like to talk about her mental health issues. I don't know what she has or has been diagnosed with but if it's depression, anxiety & panic attacks then I'm thinking it's situational. Meaning, when dealing with or being in certain situations, it makes her feel that way. Like when she's with or around her (allegedly 😒) abusive husband. She said in her own letter that she'd been abused in every way & I believe her. I think he pushed her to her final day, if he didn't have some other way of being a part of it. I hope they get justice for her family but most importantly for her.

  • @athorpe630
    @athorpe630 24 дня назад +2

    If she was mentally ill it was because of him abusing and torturing her mentally.
    He wanted to make her look crazy. But he was the crazy one.

  • @helenfong3339
    @helenfong3339 24 дня назад +4

    She was so pretty. JP was controlling and a liar. His eulogy was very weird and phony.

  • @abrown3718
    @abrown3718 24 дня назад +2

    The husband is involved and he drove her to have mental health problems. Rest easy Mica and I’m praying Justice will be served. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @nighthawktt
    @nighthawktt 24 дня назад +3

    He sounds so intimidating i don't understand how the LE wasn't able to do better for Mica.
    💖🙏⚖️JUSTICE for Mica Miller ⚖️🙏💖

  • @marysketch4772
    @marysketch4772 24 дня назад +3

    Wow her sister sounds terrific.

  • @malissawooten3423
    @malissawooten3423 23 дня назад +3

    Narcissist become dangerous when they are exposed, He planned this out that’s why he kept saying she’s crazy #justiceformica

  • @bravingthehallways8169
    @bravingthehallways8169 25 дней назад +4

    This person was allowed to stand in front of people and talk about God.?

  • @loriruthford8215
    @loriruthford8215 24 дня назад +4

    Justice for Mica ❤

  • @maryc4152
    @maryc4152 24 дня назад +5

    Narcissist

  • @sabineliebehenz4492
    @sabineliebehenz4492 25 дней назад +12

    He should be charged

    • @JewandGreek
      @JewandGreek 25 дней назад +3

      With what? Being a bad husband?

    • @Michael-le5ph
      @Michael-le5ph 24 дня назад

      @@JewandGreek JP is that you?

    • @formerlyfromthefuton8171
      @formerlyfromthefuton8171 24 дня назад +1

      ​​@@Michael-le5phMaybe he's just using simple reason, unlike almost everyone else in these comment sections. Why not hold the thirty-year-old woman responsible for her own reprehensible behavior? She was as bad as her husband, if not worse.

    • @Shellm2332
      @Shellm2332 24 дня назад

      If you don't agree or understand something it's just assumed you are JP

    • @Michael-le5ph
      @Michael-le5ph 24 дня назад

      @@formerlyfromthefuton8171 so which church member are you?

  • @magnolia31611
    @magnolia31611 24 дня назад +2

    Wait, I still don’t understand how he was able to get her hospitalized against her will? Are they saying that he used some kind of forged document to exercise medical authority over her?

    • @Be_An_Esther
      @Be_An_Esther 24 дня назад +1

      No, thats not how that works. Involuntary commitment is legal, your loved one (usually a spouse or parent) will take you to the ED and the hospital staff will take it from there. The loved one will explain to them what's been happening with you and they determine if you need admittance or not. In California its called a 5150. In extreme cases a judge can rule that the person needs permanent admittance to a facility and they wont be released. Theres no documentation necessary to have someone admitted involuntarily, as far as I'm aware.

  • @crunchygood9225
    @crunchygood9225 24 дня назад +4

    God rest her soul 🙏 I hope her story can empower other men and women to escape toxic relationships. This type of abuse happens so often without family or friends really seeing/understanding what’s going on. I really think it should be taught in Schools within PSHE!

  • @user-jc8rz2jj9r
    @user-jc8rz2jj9r 24 дня назад +2

    Sadly there are a LOT of men out there who act exactly like this every day…..

  • @deniseganey6890
    @deniseganey6890 24 дня назад +2

    This was a very Toxic Relationship, but she knew what kind of man was before she married him at 23 . They had a full fledged love affair which broke up their respective marriages. It's very sad she wasn't under Drs Care and talk theraphy during this new move in her life.

  • @_Nat_A_
    @_Nat_A_ 24 дня назад +1

    Can you imagine being a member of his church and going to him for counselling!

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 24 дня назад +2

    We know: abuse.

  • @maritzavanloggerenberg-ot3pc
    @maritzavanloggerenberg-ot3pc 24 дня назад +3

    Hope he goes to jail for ever

  • @westcoastorbust2462
    @westcoastorbust2462 24 дня назад +3

    I think she did it so that he could be exposed. The only way she could get people to believe that he is the monster he is.

  • @cwynn1547
    @cwynn1547 24 дня назад +2

    Our culture needs to understand the Cluster B disorders, what borderline personality disorder, narcissistic, histrionic, and sociopathic disorders LOOK LIKE in men. They have various levels of all 4 of these. These are the men who need help EARLY because they are all identifiable as kids.

  • @priscillapurcell-helton3999
    @priscillapurcell-helton3999 24 дня назад +1

    How does someone get hospitalized against their will without a judge involved?? We have a family member that IS seriously mentally ill and we can't get her committed. She may get picked up by police and sent to a hospital for a couple days, but she's always released.

  • @JohnSmith-br6vv
    @JohnSmith-br6vv 24 дня назад +1

    So people who ate going thru divorce making threat statement should go to jail? Prision be full

  • @mariaamaya2021
    @mariaamaya2021 24 дня назад +2

    Being pastor how bad surely he treated his poor wife. Hope justice be served.

  • @Jen-yx5mz
    @Jen-yx5mz 24 дня назад +2

    Rest in peace sweet Mica... I wish things turned out differently for you. Hopefully her story will help someone else get the help they need before it's too late.

  • @Youtubeguru05
    @Youtubeguru05 24 дня назад +1

    I love this news lady❤❤❤❤ she is truly sad about this and it shows

  • @donv4576
    @donv4576 25 дней назад +5

    Glad this case is getting as much attention as the Gabby Petito case did. Justice for Mica ❤