Heritage hands down, Such a great full sounding guitar, sounds way more balanced than the Gibson. plus your getting a guitar built in the hallowed halls of Parsons street, built the exact same way the Holy Grail guitars were built, same tables, same tools, Its a no brainer, I've played many many Heritages including the newer ones since the new owners took over and they just keep getting better. Sorry but for me Gibson is just a name anymore with alot of hype.
So, let me make sure I've got this straight: we have two guitars that are virtually identical. Yes, some slight slight differences but quality-wise, performance-wise, and spec-wise, the same. Both made in the US. Both with deep Gibson DNA. The only real difference is the headstock. One is about $4000. One is about $6800. Why is this even a debate?
At this price point it's not about sound or playability. You can get an awesome instrument for 500-1000$ or even less if you're lucky. And nobody ever is gonna hear any difference on a record in a mix. However if you're spending this much money, it's not about quality or anything like that. It's about collectors value. You're just more likely to resell Gibson for the same price or even more. And I'm not gonna lie: Heritage's headstock is ridiculously ugly. If I were in search of such instrument without Gibson logo on its headstock I would much rather go for high end Tokai Love Rock models.
@spacerangerlol I'm perfectly happy with my Eastman SB59v with Lollar Imperial pickups. Plays flawlessly, sounds great, and looks amazing. Of course the resell wouldn't be as high as a Gibson LP Standard or CS, but I also didn't pay anywhere near what I would've paid for a high end Gibson either. But resale value is a moot point anyhow, because I rarely sell my guitars.
Heritage makes wonderful instruments…BUT…resale is a thing. They drop about 40% and stay there. An R9 just doesn’t. My LP Classic is worth twice what I paid for it. And the sad thing, Heritage gets nothing from a used sale. If you buy new, it’s strictly to support a boutique builder.
you can find deals on Custom Core's here and there... i know it's just reverb, i'm sure there are better deals if i really searched, but i just ordered a new one for virtually the same price as the cheapest used custom core, period, on there. Now, i'll have 30d to decide if i wanna keep it or look for an R8 VOS from the last few years, w the unpotted custombuckers... if i keep the heritage i'll have to grab a set of unpotteds, which will run anywhere from 350-550, tho i kinda doubt i splurge to the top end of that, and the best of those tend to sound a bit more articulate than the custombuckers imo... either way, beautiful guitars... i prefer the plain top to the flame, else i'd love to find a 59 VOS, just for the neck.. i just can't do the flame every day... unless it's subtle enough that it costs like $10k, when i think i'll prefer just picking up the R8 for hopefully ~$3500-4000 used. we'll see!
I got the Heritage H-150 Tobaco burst from the early 90s. I purchased it because it was 2.8k vs 4.8k for a Gibson Les Paul standard and i found you get the better value for money with a Heritage. I always liked the unplugged sound of that guitar with the strongly vibrating body. However there are things that i didn't liked, the longer i played it., the more it sucked. Back then, the guitar came with Schaller stoptail piece, roller bridge and pickups. I changed it all , including the tuners, in order to get closer to a 59 Les Paul. The tone of the Guitar changed quite much with every mod. Today i like is as it is and would not want to change it for a new Les Paul.
They both sound great (and similar). To me the Gibson sounds fuller, especially on the neck pickup. The Heritage sounds a little bit clearer with more pronounced high frequencies. To my ear, I prefer the Gibson, but I do think that in a full song the Heritage might actually sound better. It's tough to say though, at least for me part of the Les Paul thing is that big big sound. I will say, It might be possible to adjust the pickups and get a bigger sound.
Does not have to be an either or proposition. There is room in your heart and your ears to love both. I have several gibsons and if heritage guitars where available where I live on would buy a custom core in a heartbeat.
The custombuckers are the difference maker. I would love to hear the heritage with custombuckers.. perhaps it could actually sound better. I think it sound as good . The heritage is already fantastic sounding .
@@Terrysoddy the H-150 Standard comes w SD's... the ones in this are called 225's, made by Heritage... they only issue is they're potted. i just ordered one (a Custom Core, they don't sell the pickups on their own) before NY's, have 30d to decide if i wanna keep it or maybe spend a little more and get a used R8. found a really good deal on the heritage so i may just end up keeping it no matter what
@@jasonswitzer1748 kept it! i like it a lot.. i just got a Gibson Faded 60s Std for cheap too, which obv isn't a CS but it's got the satin finish i prefer (particularly the neck, it's just so so so much faster... w the 60s slim taper it's a speed demon). but yeh the Heritage is sick, i almost pulled the trigger on another lol, probably would have if i hadn't just bought the Gibson, it was a dirty lemon CC for 2200 from GC (they had their plain tops on clearance)
I would love to hear the heritage with custombuckers. I prefer the sound of the gibson even thogh the heritage sounds wonderful and I put that preference down to the custombuckers.
I own an H150 I believe the fret inlays are real MOP, at least that was a big selling point for them, Interesting that now they have the logo in MOP and fret markers plastic
Interesting. Before actually hearing the video I went through the comments and saw yours, which is exactly what I think about when comparing the semi hollows from heritage and Gibson. G is fuller H is more focused
That’s exactly how I heard a it!! The Gibson has a fuller sound than the Heritage. But let’s be honest, both are amazing QUALITY guitars!!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 I mean you could not go wrong with either one, it’s like picking between a Ferrari and a Lamborghini 😅
The R8 is the winner for me because I even chose that over the R9. The Heritage here sounds different then the R9 and that's good on it's own. I prefer the sound here overall on the R9, but the Heritage sounded more laid back and that will some day be another tool for me. When we say this will be our last guitar? we are lying lol.
i just ordered a Custom Core, and i'll have 30d to decide if i wanna keep it or return and look for a used R8.... maybe new if anyone would break on price at all. i guess that doesn't happen tho
I have owned a bunch of different model Gibson Les Pauls and one Heritage H-157 Ltd. ( 40 of 40 )with P-90's......My Gibson Slash Anaconda and my Custom Shop Historic Special were my favorites....The Heritage was absolutely beautiful , but I think it boiled down to pups and feel of the neck....The Slash SD pups are my favorite and the Custom Shop Special neck is my favorite ( I know everyone likes a different tone and feel of the neck , so it's subjective of course ). As far as build, The Heritage and Gibson Custom Shop take the top honors. They both just felt solid and well crafted ..... I have had some Gibson duds too. One standard would be great and another did nothing at all for me.
The Heritage is very much on par in the middle and neck positions, but the bridge pup is quackier in the mids to me. I prefer the balance of the Custombucker.
The difference is as subtle as playing two of the same guitar from either company. I’ve owned Gibson Historics that sound just like that Heritage. No complaints here. We all consider resale, and GAS is a cruel master…LOL…but if you’re buying one of these with no desire or intent to sell it / flip it down the road, the Heritage is a clear winner here. I swap pickups in my Historics, why wouldn’t I do the same in a Heritage? Put Throbaks in either guitar, and it’s a better instrument…which is saying something because they’re both fine as-is.
Gibson Custombuckers sound better to me than the Heritage pickups, but I wonder if the I potted Gibson pickups would create too. U h feedback when really go balls out with gain. Both guitars rule. I’m from MI, so I chose Heritage, but I’ve got a Gibson Les Paul Tribute and I love that guitar too.
Why be upset? You can like both . Is there some rule against liking both. I don't get why to would be Considered an argument. There is no definitive answer as to which one is better. It's all personal preference. Stating that you prefer one over the other is not controversial and saying you prefer one to the other is not the same as saying one us better then the other.
The Heritage coils where wound on recently refurbished machines that were Left by Gibson in 1984. I have also heard that Throwback pickups bought that same gear from Heritage...so Idk what to believe
@@Brent-Nelson68 apparently The man Les Paul bought a pickup winding machine from gibson in 1984 as they moved/closed the Kalamazoo plant. Then Throwback bought that one winding machine from the Les Paul estate when he died
@@cranbournemusiconline just that When heritage guitar's go against equal Gibson in price. Their guitars comes out as a better build quality players then Gibson. When examined closely. And usually costs less then so called equal Gibson in fact
if you dont consider the cost these guitars are absolute equals ,if you consider the cost,well,its none of my business what another person spends thier money on!....
Being from Michigan, I love Gibson (own 3) and Heritage. However, the Gibson just looks better, plain and simple. I do not like the way the Heritage cutaway looks and that pick guard is terrible. I know WHY they did it that way, but it still looks like a knockoff Gibson LP. Both sound incredible though.
Heritage are made in Kalamazoo in the old Gibson factory by many of the previous employees when Gibson left…on the old equipment. Gibson is gone from Michigan. So if you want a guitar made in your home state, in the Gibson factory by Gibson employees, that's Heritage. You can also replace the pick guard with an aftermarket that looks the same as Gibson. If you've tried the Heritage you may actually like the ergonomics (visual aside) as I think it rests on your leg a little better and easier to play.
Fun fact . Edwin Wilson designed the pickups in both of these guitars.
Heritage hands down, Such a great full sounding guitar, sounds way more balanced than the Gibson. plus your getting a guitar built in the hallowed halls of Parsons street, built the exact same way the Holy Grail guitars were built, same tables, same tools, Its a no brainer, I've played many many Heritages including the newer ones since the new owners took over and they just keep getting better. Sorry but for me Gibson is just a name anymore with alot of hype.
Close, but something about the heritage is drawing me in. Would love to play both
So, let me make sure I've got this straight: we have two guitars that are virtually identical. Yes, some slight slight differences but quality-wise, performance-wise, and spec-wise, the same. Both made in the US. Both with deep Gibson DNA. The only real difference is the headstock. One is about $4000. One is about $6800. Why is this even a debate?
Im gonna make a slip on Gibson headstock cover for Heritage to make all Gibby fans feel warm and fuzzy.......problem solved!
At this price point it's not about sound or playability. You can get an awesome instrument for 500-1000$ or even less if you're lucky. And nobody ever is gonna hear any difference on a record in a mix. However if you're spending this much money, it's not about quality or anything like that. It's about collectors value. You're just more likely to resell Gibson for the same price or even more. And I'm not gonna lie: Heritage's headstock is ridiculously ugly.
If I were in search of such instrument without Gibson logo on its headstock I would much rather go for high end Tokai Love Rock models.
Different pickups😅
@spacerangerlol I'm perfectly happy with my Eastman SB59v with Lollar Imperial pickups. Plays flawlessly, sounds great, and looks amazing. Of course the resell wouldn't be as high as a Gibson LP Standard or CS, but I also didn't pay anywhere near what I would've paid for a high end Gibson either. But resale value is a moot point anyhow, because I rarely sell my guitars.
Wow, from clean to daaaarty, that was some awesome playing! Thanks so much. I definitely have to check out the Heritage Custom Core.
Prolly the best comparison of the two out there. While they sound similar they each have little differences. Would come down to playability for me.
It would be interesting to add the custom buckers to the Heritage and compare now that Gibson sells them.
Both are works of art. It might come down to how do they make the player feel.
Heritage guitars are great, at least I can vouch for my H 150.
This is awesome! Thanks so much for sharing this!
Heritage makes wonderful instruments…BUT…resale is a thing. They drop about 40% and stay there. An R9 just doesn’t. My LP Classic is worth twice what I paid for it. And the sad thing, Heritage gets nothing from a used sale. If you buy new, it’s strictly to support a boutique builder.
you can find deals on Custom Core's here and there... i know it's just reverb, i'm sure there are better deals if i really searched, but i just ordered a new one for virtually the same price as the cheapest used custom core, period, on there.
Now, i'll have 30d to decide if i wanna keep it or look for an R8 VOS from the last few years, w the unpotted custombuckers...
if i keep the heritage i'll have to grab a set of unpotteds, which will run anywhere from 350-550, tho i kinda doubt i splurge to the top end of that, and the best of those tend to sound a bit more articulate than the custombuckers imo...
either way, beautiful guitars... i prefer the plain top to the flame, else i'd love to find a 59 VOS, just for the neck.. i just can't do the flame every day... unless it's subtle enough that it costs like $10k, when i think i'll prefer just picking up the R8 for hopefully ~$3500-4000 used.
we'll see!
40% less for the Heritage and 2x for the Gibson are huge exaggerations.
I got the Heritage H-150 Tobaco burst from the early 90s. I purchased it because it was 2.8k vs 4.8k for a Gibson Les Paul standard and i found you get the better value for money with a Heritage. I always liked the unplugged sound of that guitar with the strongly vibrating body. However there are things that i didn't liked, the longer i played it., the more it sucked. Back then, the guitar came with Schaller stoptail piece, roller bridge and pickups. I changed it all , including the tuners, in order to get closer to a 59 Les Paul. The tone of the Guitar changed quite much with every mod. Today i like is as it is and would not want to change it for a new Les Paul.
Both sound good. I prefer the heritage. Maybe a tad clearer.
They both sound great (and similar). To me the Gibson sounds fuller, especially on the neck pickup. The Heritage sounds a little bit clearer with more pronounced high frequencies. To my ear, I prefer the Gibson, but I do think that in a full song the Heritage might actually sound better. It's tough to say though, at least for me part of the Les Paul thing is that big big sound.
I will say, It might be possible to adjust the pickups and get a bigger sound.
Does not have to be an either or proposition. There is room in your heart and your ears to love both. I have several gibsons and if heritage guitars where available where I live on would buy a custom core in a heartbeat.
In this particular comparison, I thought both sounded 90% similar
The custombuckers are the difference maker. I would love to hear the heritage with custombuckers.. perhaps it could actually sound better. I think it sound as good . The heritage is already fantastic sounding .
very good point!
Well idk about the custom buckers,but the heritage sounds freakin amazing with the seymore Duncan antiquities in it, better than the gibson
@@Terrysoddy the H-150 Standard comes w SD's... the ones in this are called 225's, made by Heritage...
they only issue is they're potted. i just ordered one (a Custom Core, they don't sell the pickups on their own) before NY's, have 30d to decide if i wanna keep it or maybe spend a little more and get a used R8. found a really good deal on the heritage so i may just end up keeping it no matter what
@@ListenHereOldManso… did you keep the Heritage or get the R8?
@@jasonswitzer1748 kept it! i like it a lot.. i just got a Gibson Faded 60s Std for cheap too, which obv isn't a CS but it's got the satin finish i prefer (particularly the neck, it's just so so so much faster... w the 60s slim taper it's a speed demon).
but yeh the Heritage is sick, i almost pulled the trigger on another lol, probably would have if i hadn't just bought the Gibson, it was a dirty lemon CC for 2200 from GC (they had their plain tops on clearance)
Love my CC H150!
Every so slightly, the Heritage is a bit more defined concerning the notes that are played. It's just a tad more precise.
I would love to hear the heritage with custombuckers. I prefer the sound of the gibson even thogh the heritage sounds wonderful and I put that preference down to the custombuckers.
I own an H150 I believe the fret inlays are real MOP, at least that was a big selling point for them, Interesting that now they have the logo in MOP and fret markers plastic
The build quality of Heritage is far superior, but the pickups still have a long way to go.
Hmmm...to me the Gibson has a more full sound; the Heritage has a bit thinner more focused sound. I don't think one could go wrong with either guitar.
Interesting. Before actually hearing the video I went through the comments and saw yours, which is exactly what I think about when comparing the semi hollows from heritage and Gibson. G is fuller H is more focused
That’s exactly how I heard a it!!
The Gibson has a fuller sound than the Heritage. But let’s be honest, both are amazing QUALITY guitars!!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I mean you could not go wrong with either one, it’s like picking between a Ferrari and a Lamborghini 😅
The R8 is the winner for me because I even chose that over the R9. The Heritage here sounds different
then the R9 and that's good on it's own. I prefer the sound here overall on the R9, but the Heritage sounded
more laid back and that will some day be another tool for me. When we say this will be our last guitar? we are
lying lol.
i just ordered a Custom Core, and i'll have 30d to decide if i wanna keep it or return and look for a used R8.... maybe new if anyone would break on price at all. i guess that doesn't happen tho
I have owned a bunch of different model Gibson Les Pauls and one Heritage H-157 Ltd. ( 40 of 40 )with P-90's......My Gibson Slash Anaconda and my Custom Shop Historic Special were my favorites....The Heritage was absolutely beautiful , but I think it boiled down to pups and feel of the neck....The Slash SD pups are my favorite and the Custom Shop Special neck is my favorite ( I know everyone likes a different tone and feel of the neck , so it's subjective of course ). As far as build, The Heritage and Gibson Custom Shop take the top honors. They both just felt solid and well crafted ..... I have had some Gibson duds too. One standard would be great and another did nothing at all for me.
Both guitars sound righteous...
Righteous!
The Heritage is very much on par in the middle and neck positions, but the bridge pup is quackier in the mids to me. I prefer the balance of the Custombucker.
Doesn’t Gibson sell the custombuckers now?
Yes they do, and they also released a whole bunch of new pickups
4:20 what song is that?
If it’s original riff congrats it’s awesome 🤩🤩🤩
Thanks! It is original
The difference is as subtle as playing two of the same guitar from either company. I’ve owned Gibson Historics that sound just like that Heritage. No complaints here.
We all consider resale, and GAS is a cruel master…LOL…but if you’re buying one of these with no desire or intent to sell it / flip it down the road, the Heritage is a clear winner here. I swap pickups in my Historics, why wouldn’t I do the same in a Heritage? Put Throbaks in either guitar, and it’s a better instrument…which is saying something because they’re both fine as-is.
Andan súper cerca ambas... Verdaderos guitarrones !!
Gibson Custombuckers sound better to me than the Heritage pickups, but I wonder if the I potted Gibson pickups would create too. U h feedback when really go balls out with gain. Both guitars rule. I’m from MI, so I chose Heritage, but I’ve got a Gibson Les Paul Tribute and I love that guitar too.
Why be upset? You can like both . Is there some rule against liking both. I don't get why to would be Considered an argument. There is no definitive answer as to which one is better. It's all personal preference. Stating that you prefer one over the other is not controversial and saying you prefer one to the other is not the same as saying one us better then the other.
The Heritage coils where wound on recently refurbished machines that were Left by Gibson in 1984. I have also heard that Throwback pickups bought that same gear from Heritage...so Idk what to believe
I’m sure there were more than just one pickup winding machine
@@Brent-Nelson68 apparently The man Les Paul bought a pickup winding machine from gibson in 1984 as they moved/closed the Kalamazoo plant. Then Throwback bought that one winding machine from the Les Paul estate when he died
Heritage wins!
Heritage lacks of a low end. But seems great anyways ! But the look is way less cooler :/
Nice. Gibson will retain value better. Otherwise both are great instruments
The heritage will have better build quality when looked at closely which you didn't do
What’s your aim with this comment?
@@cranbournemusiconline just that
When heritage guitar's go against equal Gibson in price. Their guitars comes out as a better build quality players then Gibson. When examined closely. And usually costs less then so called equal Gibson in fact
I thought at high gain settings the Heritage did just as well as the Gibson. At lower gain settings I preferred the Gibson.
Gibson
Is it the guitars ,both of them are great ,but it is the player makes a guitar sing
The Gibson wins inthe soft but Heritage wins the Rock sounds!
Why compare two guitars at a completely different price point!
To help people decide if they personally think it’s worth spending more for the more expensive one.
Heritage doesn’t make a $6k - $8k Les Paul-shaped guitar. Custom Core at ~$4k is their top dog at the moment. It’s a fair comparison.
not ach but Hayych
if you dont consider the cost these guitars are absolute equals ,if you consider the cost,well,its none of my business what another person spends thier money on!....
Being from Michigan, I love Gibson (own 3) and Heritage. However, the Gibson just looks better, plain and simple. I do not like the way the Heritage cutaway looks and that pick guard is terrible. I know WHY they did it that way, but it still looks like a knockoff Gibson LP. Both sound incredible though.
Heritage are made in Kalamazoo in the old Gibson factory by many of the previous employees when Gibson left…on the old equipment. Gibson is gone from Michigan. So if you want a guitar made in your home state, in the Gibson factory by Gibson employees, that's Heritage. You can also replace the pick guard with an aftermarket that looks the same as Gibson. If you've tried the Heritage you may actually like the ergonomics (visual aside) as I think it rests on your leg a little better and easier to play.
@@JHKNVY02 Yea, I'm aware of that, I think that's pretty cool
I hear no difference.
I choose heritage because the price is 2/3 gibson.
Same with me, If I win the lottery then I will buy a bunch of both but for now, pretty happy with what I got.