Makes me wonder what would happen if you did a blindfold test of three guitars of the same model from the same manufacturing batch. How consistent would they be?
The original Gibson logo was a crescent moon and star .then "the Gibson" then the prewar "Gibson" logo and finally the modern logo we know today in 1948.
@@virgilgiordano4582 Yeah, I remember seeing some current Gibson logos on 40s acoustics just a week ago. I may be poor, but I can still window shop on Reverb lol. They also reworked the logo in 70s for a bit, then came back to the old late 40s logo. Still, I'm disappointed because Gibson built it's fame on archtop acoustics, before electric guitars even existed. Yet they aren't offering a single archtop acoustic today. I want to see some L7s or something.
Thank you for your videos. Over the last year, I have been profoundly affected by Covid. In times of sorrow and stress I looked for ANY form of relief. I began watching your vIdeos several years ago…just because I found them informative and fun. Over the last year, I needed a way to escape. I love your reviews. I love the banter. I love the obvious friendships. I love the music. Thank you for a chance to set life aside for a short time and smile again!
@@stanislavmigra Personally, I prefer T-tops or Tim Shaws but I get you mean pups costing a couple of hundred, as opposed to 5-600 bucks. Still, I even prefer the 490r/498t pups to burstbuckers but I know many would disagree. It's horses for courses I guess.
@@jubei7259 money no object, I will probably go for ThroBak DS-55, but those are for price of new guitar :D 490/498 are great choice also, to me they are bit more "modern" focused pickups, but still good choice.
@@stanislavmigra it's funny that, even though Gibson claim burstbuckers are their best pups, their LPC's still come stock with 490's. For me, it's more that I bought most of my guitars in the 90's & they're what came stock so that's the tone I'm more used to. I used to get caught up in the whole 'search for the holy grail tone' stuff, swapping pups in some of my guitars regularly.... until my better half bought me an R6 with P90's for my birthday once & I realised that was it lol
@@jubei7259 I dont get Gibson politic in pups. Aftermarket, they all costs about the same, but to get Burstbuckers or 57s, you have to get the high end model. Even today, SG standard comes with 490r/t. Personaly, I like 498 bridge, but 490 is bland and lifeless for me. PS: Im on that (probably impossible) quest, to get p90 sound form hum canceling pickup, hahaha. Probably need to find a way to live with p90 with all its quirks. PPS: R6, yumiiiii
Standard 50s is truly great. even though i have owned many quality guitars like ESP's and fenders. the standard 50s just blew everything else away ... so resonant and easy to play.
I inquired about having heritage doing a double cut like "pat travers" and they said they still had Marv Lamb in house. He built Pat's double cut and a couple more when he was with Gibson. Sounds like a good opportunity to get something special.
I bet a viewer blind player test would be cool, with Lee, Pete, Rabea, and Rob. Each maybe trying to sound like someone else. I wonder if the could capture the nuances which make them desitinctive as a player or if it'd still be easy to tell, yeah that's Lee, or Mick, or Rabea. Usually when I'm listening to these but not necessarily wasltching them I can pretty easily pick out who is in the intro jam. Anyhow just an idea guys, I know at one point you guys have discussed each other as players, it'd be interesting to see how the application of your perception of each other would be to the real deal.
I would like to hear the hertiage with diffrent pickups like the the Alnico 2 Burstbuckers . Never cared for the Duncan 59s in a les paul . They make killer SG and explorer pickups though.
You guys make great videos and I was wondering if you guys could a shootout between like the new Gibson g45 and a martin ooo-17. i figure they are both around the same kind of guitars. Thank you
I had an H-150 for about 5 years. Never could bond with it and always kind of regretted it. I chose the one I thought sounded the best out of about 12 heritage H-150s hanging in the wall at Wolfe guitars in Hollywood, Florida. Something about the smaller cutaway threw the balance off and made it a bit uncomfortable to play sitting down. No biggie. But after a while of owning it, i just concluded the SOUND I was after was not there. The way long sustained notes decayed and did not "bloom" with the warm sweetness I always found in good Gibson Les Pauls was always a sour note for me. Gibson was horrific in quality control for about 20 straight years, so I let the engineer in me win the argument and bought the part by part "better" materials guitar: Heritage. However, I have come to realize that a guitar of this kind is more than the sum of its parts. The design has to be exact. I think the slight changes in scale length and thinner body make the guitar design of heritage just sound different. Not bad, just different. In the end it wasn't a Les Paul and did not SOUND like what I hear in my head when I think "Les Paul". Rob's conclusions at the end of his test are exactly how I feel about it too. I ended up selling the H-150 and got myself a Standard 60's Gibson Les Paul. Last time I handled such a great sounding and feeling instrument was when someone let me try a reissue '59 for a few minutes. No joke. In the end of you want the Les paul sound and feel, get a Les paul.
You clarified a lot of thoughts i had also. I bought my first Les Paul a year ago (Studio) and i love it. I recently bought a Maybach Lester, which is an european copy of the les paul, it is awesome, good woods and pickups, but somehow i prefered my cheaper LP studio, it has that raw woody Gibson sound and feel, it's difficult to explain what is different. I was considering getting a Heritage, but now i think i will get another Gibson.
nice to see you again on this channel sir Chapman. The vids by the two of you are funny and have some use. I watch them as i travel in bus or train and they certainly virtually reduce the ride. This one did not.
How in the hell did you guys BOTH manage to miss the very obvious scratch plate difference between the Gibsons and and the Heritage? I went through the whole section with Rob playing that guitar wondering if and when he would hit the underside of the plate and feel its telltale shape. You should have taken the plates off if you wanted to conceal the guitars' identifies from touch.
He didn’t even notice it with his blindfold off when he was staring at the guitars literally looking for visual differences! 🤦🏼♂️ And neither did the Captain… off to Specsavers for those two! 😜
The heritage had a different pickguard too. Edit: I can't believe no one noticed that the pickguard has it's own mini horn. It's reminiscent of some old Epiphone pickguards.
Glad that you're back KEEP MAKING VIDEOS. I like all the other people, Danish Pete and so forth and Rebea. But Chappers and the Captain best DUO ever!🤘🏻
Great video now I know if I ever get a Gibson les paul I need to get a 50s for sound .... but isn't the 60s neck slimmer? Yeah that doesn't matter so much to me , I have my shredder guitars ...
I liked the sound of The Heritage! Lots of growl! But considering it's the same price as the Gibson I would probably choose the Gibson for resale value. Thanks chaps!
I was able to pick out the Heritage but I did get wrong which Gibson is which. I thought 1 was the 60’s which is what I own because it sounds closer to mine.
Yeah the 2nd one was the best sounding Les Paul although the Heritage can be improved considerably by changing the hardware and pickups. I did and i love it..
The 50s standard is the nicest sounding of the Bunch I think it's the A2 Burstbkckers . The 60s standard and heritage have A5 pickups and I have come to the realization that I prefer weaker magnets like A2 A3 and unoriented A5.
Hmm... interesting. I was hoping for a little more insight into how the necks differ. I haven't been able to try a Heritage guitar, but I do know I prefer a slim neck vs. the fatter 50's necks.
I agree with The Rob (😆), I too liked the #1 (second played), the Gibson '50 the most, but I liked the #3 Heritage H150 next and the #2 Gibson '60s the least. Which is contrary to my Fender preferences. I preferred the 60s Strats & Teles over the 50s Strats/Teles. 😁 I'd reach for the '50 for rock and classical metal, but reach for The Heritage for the more gainy stuffs like modern metal and hard blues.
I have a 50s standard gibson with Seymour Duncan seth lovers and its incredible and sounds every bit as good as my 58 led paul reissue. It sounded great with the stock Burstbickets but I wanted something with tighter bottom end . So I put whole lotta humbuckers in it which also sounded killer but I wanted something more similar in both tone and output to the Bustbuckers but with a tighter low end and the seth lovers were the perfect choice. It sounded a bit on the modern side with the whole lotta humbuckers which was not what I wanted from that guitar. I wanted a more accurate 1958 style tone . The whole lotta humbuckers are a surprisingly good heavy rock pickup big bold bottom end on them and quite aggressive .
I didn't have a blindfold. The sound was similar with the Heritage being slightly hotter. Sounded quite good to me... The visual tell for me not seeing the headstock... The Gibson sticker on both Les Pauls pick guards. Maybe its because Gibson aficionado Austin Trogley just spoke about keeping those stickers on there for resales sake. Like 4 days ago.
I may be drunk but I’ve always found you guys very silly. The quality is always tip top & the content your bring us is superb. Keep it up :). PS: saw the captain but didn’t ask for a picture because I respect his privacy but it was still pretty cool :)
I have a Gibson LP classic (1990) and it has a very slim neck. By contrast I have a 2021 50s standard with a much thicker neck. I don’t know if the newer 60s necks are thicker than my classic, but I’m guessing they must be, because even blind folded anyone could feel the huge difference between my two LPs. I prefer the thicker 50s style.
Cannot believe Rob and Lee BOTH didn't notice the pickguard is different on the heritage. I noticed within 2 seconds of looking.
True, but that doesn't mean it couldn't just be a gibson with a different pick guard
@@TommyJohnsen446 There are no common LP with different pickguards
Also the horn.
Almost instantly and I’m not a huge Gibson fan,
They are trying to sell you a heritage is why.. IMO
@@TheDistortionPrinciple for me that pickguard looks modern and great on it's own! Not even turning me off the brand 1%
“The only visible difference is the slightly different horn”
- Apart from the wildly different pickguard.
and the sticker on it...
My thoughts exactly.
Notice that in the heat of a challenge :P
And the toggle switch cover not being there 😅
And the poker chip.
The redesigned pickguard on the Heritage is thinking “Am I a joke to you?!”
Other fact:
The reason it’s called “The Heritage” is because the original Gibson L-5 model said “The Gibson” in the same font on the headstock.
I think its the same reason the mandolins say "The Loar." ??
I think all Gibsons before a certain year were branded “The Gibson.” My 1915 L-3 says “The Gibson” on the headstock
This Guy - I thought it had to do more with the fact Heritage is in Gibson's original Kalamazoo Michigan factory.
Makes me wonder what would happen if you did a blindfold test of three guitars of the same model from the same manufacturing batch. How consistent would they be?
That's a great idea
Look up the color test. An oddball snuck in, but there were three ostensibly identical guitars and a slightly higher end one being tested blindfolded.
This needs to be a video!!
Then we could finally find out if Sunburst sounds warmer than blue
Excellent idea
How that wildly split top veneer even got past prototype stage goes beyond my imagination.
Couldn't agree more, it's horrific to look at 😢
Gibson quality check.
Put a sock over your headstock so if Gibson tries to sue you, all they sue is the sock.
The Heritage because originally Gibson's headstock logo was The Gibson. Look at early mandolins.... "The Gibson"
Yep it's a throwback. One that I appreciate. Would be cool if Heritage used the original headstock design too (no longer protected, I think).
The original Gibson logo was a crescent moon and star .then "the Gibson" then the prewar "Gibson" logo and finally the modern logo we know today in 1948.
@@virgilgiordano4582 Yeah, I remember seeing some current Gibson logos on 40s acoustics just a week ago. I may be poor, but I can still window shop on Reverb lol.
They also reworked the logo in 70s for a bit, then came back to the old late 40s logo.
Still, I'm disappointed because Gibson built it's fame on archtop acoustics, before electric guitars even existed. Yet they aren't offering a single archtop acoustic today. I want to see some L7s or something.
I was gonna say that.
Idk why I was so stoked to watch Rob’s cup disappear in the beginning
It’s been too damn long man!
Brilliant, welcome home! Such a fun video.
Prefer the Heritage shallower cut-out and once binded that headstock looks so much better!
Can't lie, they all look and sound great to me!
Thank you for your videos. Over the last year, I have been profoundly affected by Covid. In times of sorrow and stress I looked for ANY form of relief. I began watching your vIdeos several years ago…just because I found them informative and fun. Over the last year, I needed a way to escape. I love your reviews. I love the banter. I love the obvious friendships. I love the music. Thank you for a chance to set life aside for a short time and smile again!
The BadCat sounds very gnarly and spiky; it would probably work well in a mix, but not quite as flattering as you'd like for the guitar all by itself.
indeed. reminds me of some of the late 70's/early 80's live sounds of super leads. Kinda rough around the edges but cutting and wonderful in a mix
Yes. It sounds awful, imo.
I think it sounds fantastic by itself
That 50's model had an amazing sound. A real classic rock tone, compared to the others
courtesy of beautifull Burstbuckers 1 and 2. Best pickups (for human money) for Les Paul for me.
@@stanislavmigra Personally, I prefer T-tops or Tim Shaws but I get you mean pups costing a couple of hundred, as opposed to 5-600 bucks. Still, I even prefer the 490r/498t pups to burstbuckers but I know many would disagree. It's horses for courses I guess.
@@jubei7259 money no object, I will probably go for ThroBak DS-55, but those are for price of new guitar :D
490/498 are great choice also, to me they are bit more "modern" focused pickups, but still good choice.
@@stanislavmigra it's funny that, even though Gibson claim burstbuckers are their best pups, their LPC's still come stock with 490's. For me, it's more that I bought most of my guitars in the 90's & they're what came stock so that's the tone I'm more used to. I used to get caught up in the whole 'search for the holy grail tone' stuff, swapping pups in some of my guitars regularly.... until my better half bought me an R6 with P90's for my birthday once & I realised that was it lol
@@jubei7259 I dont get Gibson politic in pups. Aftermarket, they all costs about the same, but to get Burstbuckers or 57s, you have to get the high end model. Even today, SG standard comes with 490r/t. Personaly, I like 498 bridge, but 490 is bland and lifeless for me.
PS: Im on that (probably impossible) quest, to get p90 sound form hum canceling pickup, hahaha. Probably need to find a way to live with p90 with all its quirks.
PPS: R6, yumiiiii
Awesome to have you both back, on screen chemistry and wit - the best of the last 15 years on Andertons was your sparky schoolboy scoffs
Glad to see Rob!!!! Also, I have a Heritage H-140 from 1986. Killer guitar in every way.
Is no one going to mention that the coffee mug appeared out of thin air @12:05? 😂
Well, first it disappeared and then it reappeared. But yes it was noticed.
Love it so glad you're back 👍🎸
Standard 50s is truly great. even though i have owned many quality guitars like ESP's and fenders. the standard 50s just blew everything else away ... so resonant and easy to play.
I inquired about having heritage doing a double cut like "pat travers" and they said they still had Marv Lamb in house. He built Pat's double cut and a couple more when he was with Gibson.
Sounds like a good opportunity to get something special.
I bet a viewer blind player test would be cool, with Lee, Pete, Rabea, and Rob. Each maybe trying to sound like someone else. I wonder if the could capture the nuances which make them desitinctive as a player or if it'd still be easy to tell, yeah that's Lee, or Mick, or Rabea.
Usually when I'm listening to these but not necessarily wasltching them I can pretty easily pick out who is in the intro jam.
Anyhow just an idea guys, I know at one point you guys have discussed each other as players, it'd be interesting to see how the application of your perception of each other would be to the real deal.
I sincerely missed Chaps blindfolded challenges.
Capt. Lee and Rob: my discovery of the guitars RUclips game.
No question that the '50s sounded better to my ear. This was a very useful comparison for me. Thanks, guys!
Great vid :) Nice to see Rob back :)
“He always refers to himself in the 3rd person”
Said The Captain
Nice to see Rob back... Hello Mr Chapman!
The sock is a great idea! Keeps us playing as well.
I would like to hear the hertiage with diffrent pickups like the the Alnico 2 Burstbuckers . Never cared for the Duncan 59s in a les paul . They make killer SG and explorer pickups though.
Great video, blind tests are the best. I've become a real fan of the Alico 2 magnet PAF style sound. Especially the Gibson '57 and SD Seth Lover.
I almost fell out of my chair when Lee says "I literally told you 60 seconds ago there are two Gibsons and one Heritage." 🤣
You guys make great videos and I was wondering if you guys could a shootout between like the new Gibson g45 and a martin ooo-17. i figure they are both around the same kind of guitars. Thank you
What good about this guitar channel. It make me happy 😃 ❤️ 🎸
Welcome back!!!!
Good to see you back pal. Looking well
#2 should be called the Two-face burst since it looks like mismatched finish pieces from mist angles and only matches straight on .
It's called 'run out'. It happens when the wood is not properly quarter sawn and so reflects the light differently..
WELCOME BACK!!!
Rob good to see you back!
Welcome back my man!
Nailed it. And never noticed the pickguard actually, just by the sound.
I had an H-150 for about 5 years. Never could bond with it and always kind of regretted it. I chose the one I thought sounded the best out of about 12 heritage H-150s hanging in the wall at Wolfe guitars in Hollywood, Florida. Something about the smaller cutaway threw the balance off and made it a bit uncomfortable to play sitting down. No biggie. But after a while of owning it, i just concluded the SOUND I was after was not there. The way long sustained notes decayed and did not "bloom" with the warm sweetness I always found in good Gibson Les Pauls was always a sour note for me. Gibson was horrific in quality control for about 20 straight years, so I let the engineer in me win the argument and bought the part by part "better" materials guitar: Heritage.
However, I have come to realize that a guitar of this kind is more than the sum of its parts. The design has to be exact. I think the slight changes in scale length and thinner body make the guitar design of heritage just sound different. Not bad, just different. In the end it wasn't a Les Paul and did not SOUND like what I hear in my head when I think "Les Paul". Rob's conclusions at the end of his test are exactly how I feel about it too. I ended up selling the H-150 and got myself a Standard 60's Gibson Les Paul. Last time I handled such a great sounding and feeling instrument was when someone let me try a reissue '59 for a few minutes. No joke. In the end of you want the Les paul sound and feel, get a Les paul.
You clarified a lot of thoughts i had also. I bought my first Les Paul a year ago (Studio) and i love it. I recently bought a Maybach Lester, which is an european copy of the les paul, it is awesome, good woods and pickups, but somehow i prefered my cheaper LP studio, it has that raw woody Gibson sound and feel, it's difficult to explain what is different.
I was considering getting a Heritage, but now i think i will get another Gibson.
The first thing I noticed was the pickguard difference. How did they not notice this?
nice to see you again on this channel sir Chapman. The vids by the two of you are funny and have some use. I watch them as i travel in bus or train and they certainly virtually reduce the ride. This one did not.
Rob is back wowza
Hi Chappers, welcome back!
How in the hell did you guys BOTH manage to miss the very obvious scratch plate difference between the Gibsons and and the Heritage? I went through the whole section with Rob playing that guitar wondering if and when he would hit the underside of the plate and feel its telltale shape. You should have taken the plates off if you wanted to conceal the guitars' identifies from touch.
He didn’t even notice it with his blindfold off when he was staring at the guitars literally looking for visual differences! 🤦🏼♂️ And neither did the Captain… off to Specsavers for those two! 😜
The heritage had a different pickguard too.
Edit: I can't believe no one noticed that the pickguard has it's own mini horn. It's reminiscent of some old Epiphone pickguards.
Soo good to see you back together again!!!
Glad that you're back KEEP MAKING VIDEOS. I like all the other people, Danish Pete and so forth and Rebea. But Chappers and the Captain best DUO ever!🤘🏻
Great video now I know if I ever get a Gibson les paul I need to get a 50s for sound .... but isn't the 60s neck slimmer? Yeah that doesn't matter so much to me , I have my shredder guitars ...
What's the point off the socks, you can tell a mile off which is which by the scratch plate on the H-150 and the gibson stickers on the 2 Gibson's.
two lovely fellows !
"Non-crusty ones..." Lee is such a comedy act HAHAHA
Curses, I had just gotten the Rock Bottom riff out of my head and now it's back.
The middle guitar looks weird with such different pieces of maple on the top. Looks like two half guitars glued together.
Will Chappers and Cap jam together? I always liked their jams in the beginning back in the day.. always cool chord progressions
Am I in CrazyTown? Why is "the most obvious visual cue" Heritage's pickguard? Sticks out like crazy to me.
Yessss Blindfold Challenge!
Love Pete in the background
All is right with the world again to have The Captain and Chappers back for a blind fold challenge. No more viruses please!
I liked the sound of The Heritage! Lots of growl! But considering it's the same price as the Gibson I would probably choose the Gibson for resale value. Thanks chaps!
In USA, The Heritage is 200 bucks cheaper, but I agree with you about resale value..
I was able to pick out the Heritage but I did get wrong which Gibson is which. I thought 1 was the 60’s which is what I own because it sounds closer to mine.
I just bought a Chapman guitar. Love it
Unlucky
Yeah the 2nd one was the best sounding Les Paul although the Heritage can be improved considerably by changing the hardware and pickups. I did and i love it..
The 50s standard is the nicest sounding of the Bunch I think it's the A2 Burstbkckers . The 60s standard and heritage have A5 pickups and I have come to the realization that I prefer weaker magnets like A2 A3 and unoriented A5.
Rob’s first riff back is UFO’s “Rock Bottom” - what is he trying to tell us?!?
Was just about to say!! First riff... SCHENKER!!! ❤❤
The rock is back and the bottom is not near! Idk! Lol! Always cool to see him back,
The Heritage Standard H150 has a more modern sound, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Would be happy with any of the 3.
There are the same stickers on the gibson pick guards 😊
YES
Love you guys
Love me some blindfolded Chappers!
What is the number running behind the Lee's shoulder, please?
Hmm... interesting. I was hoping for a little more insight into how the necks differ. I haven't been able to try a Heritage guitar, but I do know I prefer a slim neck vs. the fatter 50's necks.
Helllllll !!!! Yeahhhhhhh!!!!!!!The Chappers and the Captain!!!!!!!!I miss this 🤘😈🤘😎🤘🎸🎸🎸🍻
I agree with The Rob (😆), I too liked the #1 (second played), the Gibson '50 the most, but I liked the #3 Heritage H150 next and the #2 Gibson '60s the least.
Which is contrary to my Fender preferences. I preferred the 60s Strats & Teles over the 50s Strats/Teles. 😁
I'd reach for the '50 for rock and classical metal, but reach for The Heritage for the more gainy stuffs like modern metal and hard blues.
Love seeing Rob and Lee doing videos together. It just works.
Man, I really liked that THE Heritage.
I could tell by the pickguard! Great video
I have a 50s standard gibson with Seymour Duncan seth lovers and its incredible and sounds every bit as good as my 58 led paul reissue. It sounded great with the stock Burstbickets but I wanted something with tighter bottom end . So I put whole lotta humbuckers in it which also sounded killer but I wanted something more similar in both tone and output to the Bustbuckers but with a tighter low end and the seth lovers were the perfect choice. It sounded a bit on the modern side with the whole lotta humbuckers which was not what I wanted from that guitar. I wanted a more accurate 1958 style tone . The whole lotta humbuckers are a surprisingly good heavy rock pickup big bold bottom end on them and quite aggressive .
The duet is back!
Heck yeah!!!
Glad to see Rob back in the chair for a bit!
Great to see you both back together. Between the two of you the best music gear reviews will be back!
The dynamic duo is back!
I LOVE the SOX OVER THE HEADSTOCK
Rob good to see you!
We kinda gave away the sock reveal
*Pete laughing in the distance*
I didn't have a blindfold. The sound was similar with the Heritage being slightly hotter. Sounded quite good to me...
The visual tell for me not seeing the headstock...
The Gibson sticker on both Les Pauls pick guards.
Maybe its because Gibson aficionado Austin Trogley just spoke about keeping those stickers on there for resales sake. Like 4 days ago.
Will I be able to buy a guitar Anderton’s Head Sock?
If I buy one of these guitars do I get Pete's sock on the headstock too?
As soon as he said “wow that’s a loud pickup” I knew it was the heritage
What with the blindfold... what's the Orange thing over Lee's right shoulder?
The pick gaurd and the covering over the headstock isn't hiding the truss rod cover😂😂😂
I may be drunk but I’ve always found you guys very silly. The quality is always tip top & the content your bring us is superb. Keep it up :). PS: saw the captain but didn’t ask for a picture because I respect his privacy but it was still pretty cool :)
Thank you for sharing your story
You are hilarious… the give away is the pick guard of course lol !
I have a Gibson LP classic (1990) and it has a very slim neck. By contrast I have a 2021 50s standard with a much thicker neck. I don’t know if the newer 60s necks are thicker than my classic, but I’m guessing they must be, because even blind folded anyone could feel the huge difference between my two LPs. I prefer the thicker 50s style.
Brings back so many hilarious memories from the old blindfold Anderton videos. Simpler times :(
So glad these two are reunited.
Two guitars have a poker chip, they also have a shiny sticker on the pickguard....
HOOORAH!!! Chappers returns