Fred, I'm pretty sure that trackbar is actually upside down. The bend that you were concerned about hitting the exhaust (~11:35) looks like it will contact the axle housing when the suspension is compressed. That bend seems to be there to clear the top of the pumpkin.
Use your screw Jack's under the front frame horns then compress the rear springs with the transmission jack. It's not the weight necessarily just leverage. The engine is in front of the lift arms giving too much counter weight.
Hey Fred, big fan, from here it looks like the grease fitting needs to go on the chassis side but idk, ive got my own jeep puzzle to figure out lol. Thanks for keeping the show going 👍
So it’s not totally at ride height when it’s lifting off the lift. Consider that everything in front of the forward lift post (notably the engine and front axle) are acting as a counterbalance, when normally the front axle is the pivot point and only mass in front of the front axle like the bumper, part of the body, maybe radiator, and a few other things are the counter balance. I can imagine if you were to find a safe way to support the front axle and all of the weight it needs to support with the suspension compressed, you’d find that the rear axle will stuff a little further up into the jeep. Or ideally just do the shocks when it’s on the ground. I really love the content!
the engine in front of the forward lift point is acting as a counter balance and reducing the force needed to lift the rear. support the front of the frame with a tall stand or tires on the ground will compress the rear springs more.
Put a spring compressor on the springs and then put the shocks on it, but you don't really want the shocks being the limiting straps for the suspension
im really doubting that Rock Jock designed that track bar with a "hidden" zerk fitting. im betting that your track bar is either upsidedown or backwards, or both. lol.
RockJocj4x4's product page describes a front bar. 😆 No help but 4WP's product page states: "features a heavy duty urethane bushing on the frame end, and a custom 1" RH thread JK specific forged 2" diameter Johnny Joint greasable rod end with jam nut on the other end" 😆
Weird that its harder to find springs for a regular 2 door Jeep. Utility Jeeps were never meant to be so darn big. They were a small, light nimble vehicle.
it was great meeting you. Sorry i didnt have time to chat very long.
Fred,
I'm pretty sure that trackbar is actually upside down. The bend that you were concerned about hitting the exhaust (~11:35) looks like it will contact the axle housing when the suspension is compressed. That bend seems to be there to clear the top of the pumpkin.
I was going to say the same thing
I agree, the lift I did on my JK had the loop up. Plus, the zerk was accessable.
"Well there's your problem"
Not going to lie. I installed my synergy rear track bar backwards on the first try, it just seems wrong.
Thanks for giving us more content. We enjoy your stuff on RUclips and motortrend.
Great video
There seams like there is always something lol. You are getting it brother keep up the great content 👍
Use your screw Jack's under the front frame horns then compress the rear springs with the transmission jack. It's not the weight necessarily just leverage. The engine is in front of the lift arms giving too much counter weight.
Been watching since season 7 of dirt every day came out
Hey Fred, big fan, from here it looks like the grease fitting needs to go on the chassis side but idk, ive got my own jeep puzzle to figure out lol. Thanks for keeping the show going 👍
Please make these videos longer! I fill like your teasing us…. Love watching the builds though.
Thanks for inspiration
So it’s not totally at ride height when it’s lifting off the lift. Consider that everything in front of the forward lift post (notably the engine and front axle) are acting as a counterbalance, when normally the front axle is the pivot point and only mass in front of the front axle like the bumper, part of the body, maybe radiator, and a few other things are the counter balance.
I can imagine if you were to find a safe way to support the front axle and all of the weight it needs to support with the suspension compressed, you’d find that the rear axle will stuff a little further up into the jeep. Or ideally just do the shocks when it’s on the ground.
I really love the content!
Might be able to use the stock front springs in the rear to get you by, if the extra weight still doesn't compress it enough
the engine in front of the forward lift point is acting as a counter balance and reducing the force needed to lift the rear. support the front of the frame with a tall stand or tires on the ground will compress the rear springs more.
If you want to compress those rear springs, tie the frame to the legs of the lift.
Hey Fred can you show us that axle bracket you have mounted to your transmission jack?
you know you've been welding too long when you watch someone welding MIG downhill and you're like, who taught you to weld?! lol
Put a spring compressor on the springs and then put the shocks on it, but you don't really want the shocks being the limiting straps for the suspension
I wonder if it matters if you extend the track bar up from the axle, or down from the frame?
For centering the axle no, for stability yes.
Raising the axle mount will raise the roll center and increase stability
Is that the mopar crate production rubicon 44 rear axle that you regeared to match the front axle?
Isn't five inches three hearty buds and a keg on the way to the concert?
im really doubting that Rock Jock designed that track bar with a "hidden" zerk fitting. im betting that your track bar is either upsidedown or backwards, or both. lol.
RockJocj4x4's product page describes a front bar. 😆 No help but 4WP's product page states: "features a heavy duty urethane bushing on the frame end, and a custom 1" RH thread JK specific forged 2" diameter Johnny Joint greasable rod end with jam nut on the other end" 😆
from that id say i was right, upsidedown and backwards
@@motownXJdad9565 will this lead to any impacts in off roading?
If you look at Rock Jock’s part listing, it’s in the same position as he installed it 🤷🏼♂️
Iirc tj springs can be swapped. Folks have been using jk stuff for a few years as budget lift springs
Speed through those cussing moments......lol
Did he say what gears are in the axles?..I can’t remember
Pretty sure he said 5:13.
are you going to run stock JL knuckles? I hope not. aluminum isn't good for knuckles.
Weird that its harder to find springs for a regular 2 door Jeep. Utility Jeeps were never meant to be so darn big. They were a small, light nimble vehicle.
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To the ones saying he put track bar on backwards.... Every single google Image has it the same direction, it appears rockjock goof up
Fred, is your shirt on backwards?
It damn sure is lol
u fr giving that sticker away ???😅
Fred see problems 😨🔨
It doth help when you buyeth thee correct parts....yes?
Pretty sure Track bar is upside down
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It's not too late to change it to Noob
I think you got the track bar in wrong! Looks like your springs are to long like there made for a taller shock.
Cut the spring
So jealous , I can't get that hat
I got some on Etsy.