I was skeptical when my local custom pc shop recommended my mid budget pc with a darkflash cooler for my 11400f but it's actually really good for the price they offered
@@echohotelsix can confirm, I’m using one RN but one thing to note about this case is that if you have HDD bay in, the PSU cable is a bit tight to move around.
My main rig sits in an Enermax Grace Mesh case that I bought like 4 years ago for 35 dollars and for what I paid for it I have yet to find a nice enough case for a good enough price to justify changing to a new one. 2 140mm fans in the front, 2 120mm fans on the top and 1 120mm fan in the back, tempered glass side panel, psu shroud, 2 usb 3.0, 2 usb 2.0, headphone and mic front panel ports. Still to this day one of the best value purchases I've ever made for the computers in my house. Only things I wish were different are 1. It has 3.5 inch drive bay cutouts on the front mesh panel and 2. It's extremely heavy with all my components in it. Thing is built like a tank. Sometimes those lesser known companies provide surprisingly good products.
The best cheap case I found for my PC was the: Aerocool Hive FRGB v3 for less then 50$ ( I paid about 40$ on sale), it came with 2X160mm Fans in the front (I know is an odd fan dimension) and 1x120mm in the back, has good airflow and you can fit 4 additional 120mm fans (2 of them can be fitted to provide air to the graphics card), can be fitted with a 360 rad in the front or a 240mm on the top, it has tempered glass on the side.
I would like to see a smoke test on this case. Sometimes, no restrictions make the airflow do some weird things, eliminating airflow into the center of the case around components. Nice case though. I like the black with no UFO lights :)
I got that dlc29 and in my opinion that’s better than tempered glass type casing. Very minimal design and you can also see what’s inside if you have rgb fans lol
DarkFlash is known to be a budget brand in the SEA region. So expecting some cheap traits is well expected, but overall impression for most of their products are okay for the ordinary pc-builder
DarkFlash is making a good name for themselves. For some of the amenities, I was expecting a $85 price tag. If we see anything else cool. Can we share them here for you Greg??? I don't have Twitter.
Darkflash did have a very humble beginning. Went from a 20 dollar case expanding tiers. Would like to see them bloom and give time to certain case details.
Really debating getting this case, I wish they made a small form factor version of this case that still allows the use for a full sized ATX mother board. I know they can definitely make this thing a tad smaller, even the Meshroom S can use a full sized ATX motherboard, but its design is a bit flawed considering you may have to use a 380mm riser cable which isn't cheap, but it allows for an ATX psu so that's the tradeoff. Overall I'm excited about future darkFlash products.
Darkflash actually got decent products and good bang for bucks. I'm currently using their cheaper line, the darkflash melody. Bought brand new for 20 something dollar (that's right, 20 something bucks for a case). Not crazy good with thick plating, and only smokey acrylic side panel. But it got a full basement to hide cables and spinning drives, good airflow, and a whopping 8x 120mm fans mounting. Can go radiators as well.
My gaming pc uses a DarkFlash Phantom Black case that has tempered glass on three sides. Ventilation is surprisingly good, it looks awsome, and it was easy to build in. I have no regrets with this cae.
I know inflation, prices, recession, etc... but I paid $85 for a meshify c two years ago so I find it hard to swallow even at $100. Darkflash cases seem alright though, but I am skeptical about build quality looking at some user reviews. I like this one, simple and understated. Perfect to custom mod.
i think the mesh side panels could hinder the airflow performance because i think if you're having a non mesh side panels, it forced the air get in the case and have more pressure, whilst the mesh one can make your airflow leaks to the outside of the pc and presumably has less air pressure to cool down the main part
can we please bring back the DVD drive bays on cases like this ?? that was a nifty aesthetic back in the day, we're also at a point where we don't need 3 fans for airflow in a case so there would be no real harm in fitting a disc drive bay back in.
I would have liked to see you use the vertical GPU mount, considering it doesn't choke off the GPU, and also some RGB fans, as mesh makes for a really nice visual effect.
Before watching this I’m gonna make a guess that your thermals will be just fine. I’ve got a 5700x and a 3080ti together in a q58 with all mesh and thermals are great even in that tiny case. All mesh is the way to go!
The mesh panels don't allow for air to properly flow throughout the case in laminar manner. With all that mesh all the air being pushed by the fans is just going everywhere, yes your components can breath and the fans on the gpu will be more helpful cause they can pull in fresh air from the mesh side panel. I have the good old Silverstone raven case where the motherboard was mounted at a 90 degree angle, with three 180mm fans blowing vertically. This basically formed a massive column of air that pushed hot air out vertically. That case air cooled my pc amazingly getting temps near what I would get if I had a closed loop in a standard pc case.
I think you should have the front fans as exhaust to encourage air coming in through the side panels. Seen good performance in ITX sandwich full mesh cases like the meshlicious.
I think the case may be too large for that to work. Since the bottom of the case is closed off and the rear only has one fan mount, I don't think it's possible to get the maximum performance out of this case.
I'd stick a low rpm 140mm in the top rear to get rid of any warm pockets. Nice case but the price/quality leave a little to be desired. Good video none the less :)
I would have thought you have sort of cpu to usr without undervolted to run at stock everything could you change the cooler to see if that would cool it
For a minute and a half I see "TEMPERED GLASS SIDE PANEL" on the side of the box, but that doesn't even get mentioned? Things like that tend be a big indicator of QC. I think he was lucky it didn't have a bent panel.
I'm using DarkFlash Knight K1 with i5 10400 and Gigabyte 2060 oc 6G. It's been 1 year since i've built this pc and for me the airflow is fine. My gpu is the only one that's not good though since it's Gigabyte and the fans is terrible. I had to fix it my self in order for the fans to spin without coil too much and undervolt/underclock. Man, all and all the case is cool looking but i'm just having hard times with my gpu that's all XD I'm broke now so no chance getting new gpu soon lol. Anyways, great vid Greg and i'm quite intrigued seeing you adventuring the (non-premium) brand for case etc. Cheers ✨
Please do more of these cheap-(ish) cases like this and the ZZAW. They're quite common in my region but arent really covered by bigger reviewers, its interesting to see what mainstream tech youtubers think of them when compared to mainstream case options that are more commonly reviewed.
I see, there are other brands like fantech, rakk and inplay that might tickle your interest to try and share opinions on any of those brands. Thanks for responding, much appreciated and learned so much from you.
I just love the DLM21 mesh case, built a pc for a friend in one of those, really liked the space It's a mATX case almost the size of a ATX case like a Silverstone Fara R1
i ended up buying the dlm21 and messed up the part where we remove the thing for the GPU hahah. I removed the first section, and now there is a hole on my case haha. I wanted to return the piece I remove but I don't know how. Well I guess, it is an added airflow haha.
I once saw this model on their website, but it was not available in Polish distribution. Recently it appeared (by the way, here it costs about $60 for today), so I ordered it right away (after watching your video) and I am satisfied, everything confirms and agrees, except for one thing - the card holder. In the set I did not get this accessory box with accessories, so the stand is also missing. I watched some videos of Indian users and the same thing, missing. Is it possible that Darkflash adds it only for the US market and not in Europe?
As an owner of the SSUPD Meshilicious this looks ALOT like it but idk about it being 140 when the SSUPD is 120 w the Gen 3 riser cable. Completely different market since 1 is ITX and the other ATX but if an ITX case is cheaper than an ATX one thats kind of a problem imo.
In reality, more flow would be how much air you can push through "the whole system" in set time. To get air through "the whole system" you only want one side for Intake, one side for exhaust, all the other panels sealed (airtight). Side mesh most of the time would reduce flow - think like putting holes in the (side) of a water hose, jet engine, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, etc...
Clean looking build, the rear slot covers are definitely the budget case style but overall not a bad looking case. Personally I would have used the slot lower than you did for that capture card as it's fully blocking one of that RTX card's fans. Be interested in seeing if that makes any difference to the thermals though, i suspect it would but it very well might not. Edit: My thought process regarding that capture card is two fold. as 1> the thing is clearly being restrictive to a fan and 2> they tend to produce some heat when in use as well so that fan on the GPU will be sucking up warmer air as well.
Can't use the slot lower... No PCIe slot there on this motherboard Lol. And it's not filling blocking the fan. There's still space between them. Load temps are fine.
Man, i just bought this case for 34€ and its really good. Tho i'm gonna tape the both of the mesh panels shut so less noise and dust. But leave enough for the vertical gpu to breathe.
@@GregSalazar i am using 3600x @4.3 all Core OC with gammex GTE V2 (cheap air cooler) with mATX board in NR200... With just 2exaust fans in case... They work like charm... Side intake helps a lot to me.. and i am in India where in summers(till last week) it's 36-38% ambient temp....
My concern about this would be there's no way to actually create an airflow path through the case which might actually cause higher temps for some parts. I guess some testing will show if it works or not. The price is way too high for not including any fans. At full price, one could get a Phanteks P500A DRGB. A premium case with three good fans already installed. At $100 it might just be high enough quality to warrant that price.
i ended up getting lucky on the Lian Li PC-O11DX 011 DYNAMIC when it was on sale for $134 where i haven't seen it drop after it's been going for $169 to 200 bucks
I feel like this is a good case when you are just putting your PC under your desk. Don't care about esthetics but want cooling performance. Drawback would be your feet getting warm in the summer.
Super interested in this case. However, after using Segotep 270° case there's no chance I'm going back to a standard case design. Having full access to my motherboard IO without digging around behind my computer is a game changer. If darkFlash ever makes a case like this in 270° though... Yeah I'd be very interested in that
All mesh really needs to have air filters ... have you considered a 2nd fan on the other side of your cpu air cooler? Needs to be longer, a little taller, and maybe an inch wider. Put real remountable slot covers on the back, air filters ...
Why when it's "full mesh" does it state "tempered glass panel" on the box? Also the right hand panel being mesh would be an issue to hide messy cables, unless your cable management is meticulous....
Cool budget case. But next time might I suggest a super duper expensive option to test? ( I.e regner cooling system case) It would be interesting to see the cooling abilities of an extremely expensive case.
I believe that you should've shown the audience how the PC would look after the build was completed and turned on with both side panels installed on the case. to give us a better overall look & sound.
i have a conceptually similar setup using Lian Li's Q58 case that i bought the "add ons" for, a pair of mesh side panels and ARGB strips. it looks great. would be even better if i didn't suck at cable management
A full mesh design makes for a "good" airflow case by default, but it can never be a great one. Ideally you want air to be forced into a consistent laminar direction over components instead of allowing it to just escape chaotically wherever. Your biggest loss is that a fair amount of the cool ambient air your fans worked so hard to blow in is just going to come straight out the side in the top-right hand corner before it even sees any heat. All this is why most premium cases, even ones focused on performance than showcasing, tend to still have completely solid side panels, while still producing equal or better results to this all mesh layout. That said, I think a vertical mounted GPU would be *really* good on this one, since you can effectively turn the fans on the video card into true exhaust fans to the outside. If I were a case designer, I'd be considering a design where the top half of the side panel was solid, but the bottom half was mesh, and a vertical GPU mount (which is straight up against the front panel) is recommended.
I was skeptical when my local custom pc shop recommended my mid budget pc with a darkflash cooler for my 11400f but it's actually really good for the price they offered
darkflash cases especially the dlm21 mesh is really really popular on south east asian market, probably due to the cheap price and performs well.
@@echohotelsix can confirm, I’m using one RN but one thing to note about this case is that if you have HDD bay in, the PSU cable is a bit tight to move around.
darkFlash makes some interesting cases. Have had two and been happy with both. Still using one for a secondary PC build.
The DLM21 is one of my favorite cases ever. Pretty cheap, great airflow, and plenty of room for cable management in the back
@@Evios62 That's very similar to the case I use. The only difference is mine has some extra fans next to the motherboard. I think mine was the DLX21.
I have one.. looks like a bee house with all the hexagons up front
I do use a dark flash case and it is really amazing. Excellent airflow, 4 preinstalled RGB fans and looks great.
This case costs $40 where I live, $99 is too expensive...
its 30eur for me :P
I really love these weird case builds.....Lots of airflow is the way to go!!! Great video again! Keep em' coming!!!
Interesting case, I appreciate the time you invested to showcase darkFlash. Cheers and have a champion day.
My main rig sits in an Enermax Grace Mesh case that I bought like 4 years ago for 35 dollars and for what I paid for it I have yet to find a nice enough case for a good enough price to justify changing to a new one. 2 140mm fans in the front, 2 120mm fans on the top and 1 120mm fan in the back, tempered glass side panel, psu shroud, 2 usb 3.0, 2 usb 2.0, headphone and mic front panel ports. Still to this day one of the best value purchases I've ever made for the computers in my house. Only things I wish were different are 1. It has 3.5 inch drive bay cutouts on the front mesh panel and 2. It's extremely heavy with all my components in it. Thing is built like a tank. Sometimes those lesser known companies provide surprisingly good products.
The best cheap case I found for my PC was the: Aerocool Hive FRGB v3 for less then 50$ ( I paid about 40$ on sale), it came with 2X160mm Fans in the front (I know is an odd fan dimension) and 1x120mm in the back, has good airflow and you can fit 4 additional 120mm fans (2 of them can be fitted to provide air to the graphics card), can be fitted with a 360 rad in the front or a 240mm on the top, it has tempered glass on the side.
I would like to see a smoke test on this case. Sometimes, no restrictions make the airflow do some weird things, eliminating airflow into the center of the case around components. Nice case though. I like the black with no UFO lights :)
I got that dlc29 and in my opinion that’s better than tempered glass type casing. Very minimal design and you can also see what’s inside if you have rgb fans lol
I built my pc in a darkFlash DLM21 about 2 years ago and I love it, no complaints 👍
Definitely refreshing to see a case like this.
This is a budget case without the budget price, you pointed out most of the weaknesses but I would like to add lack of top IO usb type c.
Honestly it seems like it needs to be 50-60$ max
@@Ohadberry agreed
@@Ohadberry That is what I was thinking.
DarkFlash is known to be a budget brand in the SEA region. So expecting some cheap traits is well expected, but overall impression for most of their products are okay for the ordinary pc-builder
Did that Darkflash case come with another side panel? Because it said "tempered glass side panel" on the side of the box that it came in.
DarkFlash is making a good name for themselves. For some of the amenities, I was expecting a $85 price tag.
If we see anything else cool. Can we share them here for you Greg???
I don't have Twitter.
Darkflash did have a very humble beginning. Went from a 20 dollar case expanding tiers. Would like to see them bloom and give time to certain case details.
Really debating getting this case, I wish they made a small form factor version of this case that still allows the use for a full sized ATX mother board. I know they can definitely make this thing a tad smaller, even the Meshroom S can use a full sized ATX motherboard, but its design is a bit flawed considering you may have to use a 380mm riser cable which isn't cheap, but it allows for an ATX psu so that's the tradeoff. Overall I'm excited about future darkFlash products.
Should've made the shroud perforated and have fan mounts holes on top of it, also fan mount holes on the side panel. So much potential in here.
Darkflash is the king of cheap and good looking cases in South East Asia. That thing is like 60$ where I'm from.
is the structure rigid enough or rather flimsy?
Darkflash actually got decent products and good bang for bucks. I'm currently using their cheaper line, the darkflash melody. Bought brand new for 20 something dollar (that's right, 20 something bucks for a case). Not crazy good with thick plating, and only smokey acrylic side panel. But it got a full basement to hide cables and spinning drives, good airflow, and a whopping 8x 120mm fans mounting. Can go radiators as well.
My gaming pc uses a DarkFlash Phantom Black case that has tempered glass on three sides. Ventilation is surprisingly good, it looks awsome, and it was easy to build in. I have no regrets with this cae.
dark flash mesh cases are my go to cases. The dlm21 is my favorite case
I know inflation, prices, recession, etc... but I paid $85 for a meshify c two years ago so I find it hard to swallow even at $100. Darkflash cases seem alright though, but I am skeptical about build quality looking at some user reviews. I like this one, simple and understated. Perfect to custom mod.
I have built in three Darkflash cases. I've not been disappointed with the build quality of any of them.
What about supergluing zip tie to a small magnet for cable management? Or coul the magnet mess with components?
going to give this case a try, thanks Greg, love those cables
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i think the mesh side panels could hinder the airflow performance because i think if you're having a non mesh side panels, it forced the air get in the case and have more pressure, whilst the mesh one can make your airflow leaks to the outside of the pc and presumably has less air pressure to cool down the main part
Yup you definitely get less airflow with such an open case, but on the flip side you get a ton of breathability.
I literally thaught of this today (june 27) and boom theres a video out there, very nice.
Dark Flash brand is very well known in my country Indonesia as budget friendly cases, coolers, case fans etc
How are you supposed to see the sweet interior components if there is no glass side panel?
can we please bring back the DVD drive bays on cases like this ??
that was a nifty aesthetic back in the day, we're also at a point where we don't need 3 fans for airflow in a case so there would be no real harm in fitting a disc drive bay back in.
Your head is definitely getting better air flow with that fresh cut.
Oh I forgot thanks for the discount code about 2 months ago! Got my copy of W10pro
I would have liked to see you use the vertical GPU mount, considering it doesn't choke off the GPU, and also some RGB fans, as mesh makes for a really nice visual effect.
I love it's fully mesh instead of the heavy and expensive TP glass.
sadly this case is not available in amazon canada. there is a darkflash dlc, but it's $309 CAD + s/h.
Before watching this I’m gonna make a guess that your thermals will be just fine. I’ve got a 5700x and a 3080ti together in a q58 with all mesh and thermals are great even in that tiny case. All mesh is the way to go!
The mesh panels don't allow for air to properly flow throughout the case in laminar manner. With all that mesh all the air being pushed by the fans is just going everywhere, yes your components can breath and the fans on the gpu will be more helpful cause they can pull in fresh air from the mesh side panel.
I have the good old Silverstone raven case where the motherboard was mounted at a 90 degree angle, with three 180mm fans blowing vertically. This basically formed a massive column of air that pushed hot air out vertically. That case air cooled my pc amazingly getting temps near what I would get if I had a closed loop in a standard pc case.
I'd like to se the pc with the case on + any RGB? I think a lot of reviewers forget to do a panel-on view, even if it's not a clear side panel
pro: amazing airflow, con: dust can get in through every side
Have you ever considered going to the Icegiant Prosiphon Elite? You'd still be air cooled and would be able to run at full speed.
I think you should have the front fans as exhaust to encourage air coming in through the side panels. Seen good performance in ITX sandwich full mesh cases like the meshlicious.
I think the case may be too large for that to work. Since the bottom of the case is closed off and the rear only has one fan mount, I don't think it's possible to get the maximum performance out of this case.
@@HazewinDog run both front and back as exhaust? Otherwise no benefit of it being all mesh since you can't provide controlled purposeful airflow path.
Haircut looks clean 💙
I see a lot of dust problems alr flow direction may being the perfect situation but it may be cooler but I'm not going to put my hopes on that case
I'd stick a low rpm 140mm in the top rear to get rid of any warm pockets. Nice case but the price/quality leave a little to be desired. Good video none the less :)
Any change in noise profile since there is no longer glass between you and the fans?
could you make this with only upper fans to pull the heat that rises up away better? as its basically a open case and fans do really do much at all.
But Gregg? Will the temps not improve with 2 x top mounted fans? Worth a look into? Will it make a difference? Probably!
I would consider it for like an all water radiator only type of build or something but definitely not for air. duno why tho.
I got lucky and got the P300 from a local computer shop for $45. Love this case.
The cheap card slot knock outs were probably done to help keep the overall price down where they went full perforation.
I would have thought you have sort of cpu to usr without undervolted to run at stock everything could you change the cooler to see if that would cool it
For a minute and a half I see "TEMPERED GLASS SIDE PANEL" on the side of the box, but that doesn't even get mentioned? Things like that tend be a big indicator of QC. I think he was lucky it didn't have a bent panel.
I'm using DarkFlash Knight K1 with i5 10400 and Gigabyte 2060 oc 6G. It's been 1 year since i've built this pc and for me the airflow is fine. My gpu is the only one that's not good though since it's Gigabyte and the fans is terrible. I had to fix it my self in order for the fans to spin without coil too much and undervolt/underclock. Man, all and all the case is cool looking but i'm just having hard times with my gpu that's all XD I'm broke now so no chance getting new gpu soon lol. Anyways, great vid Greg and i'm quite intrigued seeing you adventuring the (non-premium) brand for case etc. Cheers ✨
Please do more of these cheap-(ish) cases like this and the ZZAW. They're quite common in my region but arent really covered by bigger reviewers, its interesting to see what mainstream tech youtubers think of them when compared to mainstream case options that are more commonly reviewed.
140 bucks? not what i would call cheapish
Clean as heck looking PC sir
The mint green inverted case beat this one in a sense by being special.. I really liked that. Sadly it's not sold in Europe. Like this one.
Hi Greg!
There are more cases, fans and coolers from Darkflash. You can try building on a Darkflash DLM21 case.
Oh I'm aware! And like I said, we've already built in another darkFlash case on the channel. But this one looked the most appealing.
I see, there are other brands like fantech, rakk and inplay that might tickle your interest to try and share opinions on any of those brands. Thanks for responding, much appreciated and learned so much from you.
I just love the DLM21 mesh case, built a pc for a friend in one of those, really liked the space
It's a mATX case almost the size of a ATX case like a Silverstone Fara R1
i ended up buying the dlm21 and messed up the part where we remove the thing for the GPU hahah. I removed the first section, and now there is a hole on my case haha. I wanted to return the piece I remove but I don't know how. Well I guess, it is an added airflow haha.
I once saw this model on their website, but it was not available in Polish distribution. Recently it appeared (by the way, here it costs about $60 for today), so I ordered it right away (after watching your video) and I am satisfied, everything confirms and agrees, except for one thing - the card holder. In the set I did not get this accessory box with accessories, so the stand is also missing. I watched some videos of Indian users and the same thing, missing. Is it possible that Darkflash adds it only for the US market and not in Europe?
Pop out expansion card brackets are the domain of 40 to 55 dollar cases, not 100 to 140 dollar cases.
The chrome feet look snazzy.
As an owner of the SSUPD Meshilicious this looks ALOT like it but idk about it being 140 when the SSUPD is 120 w the Gen 3 riser cable. Completely different market since 1 is ITX and the other ATX but if an ITX case is cheaper than an ATX one thats kind of a problem imo.
In reality, more flow would be how much air you can push through "the whole system" in set time. To get air through "the whole system" you only want one side for Intake, one side for exhaust, all the other panels sealed (airtight). Side mesh most of the time would reduce flow - think like putting holes in the (side) of a water hose, jet engine, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, etc...
Clean looking build, the rear slot covers are definitely the budget case style but overall not a bad looking case. Personally I would have used the slot lower than you did for that capture card as it's fully blocking one of that RTX card's fans. Be interested in seeing if that makes any difference to the thermals though, i suspect it would but it very well might not.
Edit: My thought process regarding that capture card is two fold. as 1> the thing is clearly being restrictive to a fan and 2> they tend to produce some heat when in use as well so that fan on the GPU will be sucking up warmer air as well.
Can't use the slot lower... No PCIe slot there on this motherboard Lol. And it's not filling blocking the fan. There's still space between them. Load temps are fine.
Man, i just bought this case for 34€ and its really good. Tho i'm gonna tape the both of the mesh panels shut so less noise and dust. But leave enough for the vertical gpu to breathe.
Try making front and top exaust... Complete negative pressure let the side intake... I am sure you will see the better results...
You'll still have a similar net flow of air in and out of the case... would make almost no difference. We've already tested this in other cases.
@@GregSalazar i am using 3600x @4.3 all Core OC with gammex GTE V2 (cheap air cooler) with mATX board in NR200... With just 2exaust fans in case... They work like charm... Side intake helps a lot to me.. and i am in India where in summers(till last week) it's 36-38% ambient temp....
My concern about this would be there's no way to actually create an airflow path through the case which might actually cause higher temps for some parts. I guess some testing will show if it works or not. The price is way too high for not including any fans. At full price, one could get a Phanteks P500A DRGB. A premium case with three good fans already installed. At $100 it might just be high enough quality to warrant that price.
i ended up getting lucky on the Lian Li PC-O11DX 011 DYNAMIC when it was on sale for $134 where i haven't seen it drop after it's been going for $169 to 200 bucks
I feel like this is a good case when you are just putting your PC under your desk. Don't care about esthetics but want cooling performance. Drawback would be your feet getting warm in the summer.
Been using dark flash products for the past 3 years without issue.
If this came with full rgb fans with controller and couple strips, i might think about this.
I allways count the fan prices included.
Super interested in this case.
However, after using Segotep 270° case there's no chance I'm going back to a standard case design. Having full access to my motherboard IO without digging around behind my computer is a game changer.
If darkFlash ever makes a case like this in 270° though... Yeah I'd be very interested in that
All mesh really needs to have air filters ... have you considered a 2nd fan on the other side of your cpu air cooler? Needs to be longer, a little taller, and maybe an inch wider. Put real remountable slot covers on the back, air filters ...
I liked the idea so now i have an o11 dynamic with a mesh side and front panel 😁😁
when using the vipkeys thing it comes to your CDD as hong kong airwallet which freaked me out for awhile...
the steel is paper thin, can bend it with my pinky, the metal looking feet are chrome plastic, other than that it's pretty okay for a $70 white case
Wow that really is all mesh. Interesting.
Love this case. I wanna get it. Can I place front three 120 fans with a regular ATX MB?
Why when it's "full mesh" does it state "tempered glass panel" on the box? Also the right hand panel being mesh would be an issue to hide messy cables, unless your cable management is meticulous....
love darkFlash i have their DLM21 case in white aswell as matching white 240mm aio but i accidently fried the rgb in the fans recently lol
Not looked at the full review yet, still at work, but initial impressions are very good, case looks clean.
I have the darkflash phantom. Great case ( mostly). I'd love to see a major RUclips person build in it.
Cool budget case. But next time might I suggest a super duper expensive option to test? ( I.e regner cooling system case)
It would be interesting to see the cooling abilities of an extremely expensive case.
I believe that you should've shown the audience how the PC would look after the build was completed and turned on with both side panels installed on the case. to give us a better overall look & sound.
Greg how were you able to set xmp on the ddr5 everytime I try it boot cycles we’re using the same ram and speed my board is a z690 A asus prime
thats wierd, i upgraded every component except my case and my oem key worked perfectly fine when i reinstalled
aesthetically not the best but I really like the idea of completely unrestricted airflow. I'm thinking of getting this case.
This might just be a personal thing, but it hurts my brain when I see single use slot covers in any case over $100.
Agreed. That's cheap AF.
gonna need a link to that anti sag gpu bracket plz!
i have a conceptually similar setup using Lian Li's Q58 case that i bought the "add ons" for, a pair of mesh side panels and ARGB strips. it looks great. would be even better if i didn't suck at cable management
The youtube compression artifacts are wild on this one
I have a P300A! Great case!
So are u gonna show us the temps or what
Do a build with the Thermaltake tower 500 please !
Greg, why not throw a bigger aircooling tower into the case? The Scythe Fuma 2, Deepcool AK620 might work, or Thermalright PA120 should work better.
thermal capacity of water will always defeat air cooled blocks
A full mesh design makes for a "good" airflow case by default, but it can never be a great one. Ideally you want air to be forced into a consistent laminar direction over components instead of allowing it to just escape chaotically wherever. Your biggest loss is that a fair amount of the cool ambient air your fans worked so hard to blow in is just going to come straight out the side in the top-right hand corner before it even sees any heat. All this is why most premium cases, even ones focused on performance than showcasing, tend to still have completely solid side panels, while still producing equal or better results to this all mesh layout.
That said, I think a vertical mounted GPU would be *really* good on this one, since you can effectively turn the fans on the video card into true exhaust fans to the outside. If I were a case designer, I'd be considering a design where the top half of the side panel was solid, but the bottom half was mesh, and a vertical GPU mount (which is straight up against the front panel) is recommended.
I think mesh is a great place to actually use RGB to show hints of stuff inside.
Looks nice. Cheaply made. Sad i want another itx build.