Broken literally a couple dozen 1952 Bowman baseball sets made up of cards pulled from penny packs as well as from 5 cent packs so I have seen lots of cards with wax stains. Never seen a wax stain like the one pulled from that pack. I think that is what the back would look like if the pack were subjected to being reheated to resealing. My suspicion is that BBCE got it wrong on this pack being originally sealed. Additionally he had to struggle to peel the wax wrapper to open it and ended up having to tear it to get the cards out. Pretty confident that pack was resealed based on those two observations.
Of course it was resealed. I don’t trust any vintage packs. Almost all vintage packs, especially ones that look really good condition wise are going to have been resealed.
I think it's cool to see things like this but it also shows how the hobby has really transformed into different worlds--one very elite and based on financials most can't fathom and everyone else. It's become collecting classic cars or wine at this point.
The retail stuff is still for the kids and is back to normal but yes the top of the line products each year are not really for the average consumer which is kind of sad. It would be nice if even the retail products had 1/1 autos even with redemptions that never expired of big names to give people something to chase after.
I had a Pete Rose Rookie Card. Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Don Drysdale etc.etc. All mint. My mother chucked a whole box out when I went away to college in the 70's. Stacks and stacks of Marvel Comics, all chucked out.
I went to college/Uni in 1998. Only luck prevented my mom from tossing a box with my Revised era MtG cards, including 40 duals. Later sold most of them too early (2001 I dumped the lot) but a friend of mine's dad threw out his collection in 1997, including at least two Mox Jets, 1 being a LP+ beta that he won in a tournament back then - Cause the dad said that now that he was in apprenticeship for carpenter it was time to get rid of "kids stuff" and grow up - He still hates his dad for that.
Why do they do that?? I had a magic collection with portal through 1st editíon. Gone cause "it was in her way". Unreal. I'll be a plumber for the rest of my life now...
@@carolinatarheels7903 Def not about value. It's a physiological endorphin hit, i.e. a form of addiction. The next generation might move mostly to ePacks, to get their gamers' hit. Whoever bought that Bobby Adams spot for $1,000 (or whatever it cost) landed a $5 card. You don't do that because your are a simple hobbyist or a sound investor.
Vintage breaks swap packs. They are legit scammers as we've seen in the recent videos of proof that they scam. Be careful who you decide to feature on your channel.
I estimate 80 to 90% based on what I have seen on RUclips is made up bullshit. It is like seeing a script for a reality show. I guess people are tired of waiting for interesting things to happen, so they just fake it. It is all bullshit.
Most of the big 3 sport breakers are scammers. Thankfully my sport is only 30 years old and cards are low value and overly volatile so not worth scammers time as not many collect either.
Hilarious watching people clapping when someone turns a very rare 20k item into $100 worth of easily found commons. Maybe tommorow you could take a Picasso and use to wrap Christmas presents??
My biggest problem with these old single packs is that I have always considered them to be “leftover” packs with the previous ones with the stars in them having been opened already! My opinion but from what I have seen with these random older packs, more commons come out of them than stars ever do!! 🤷🏻♂️
BBCE is a crook me and my mom brought my late father's 1952 complete 52 bowman set just to see what Steve would offer he offered 4 grand the mantle alone is worth that along with the mays they are in great shape I would never deal with that crook
@@michaelmaluchnik2940 If you are selling your cards to anyone who is looking to also resell the card, then you will always get 65-75% of what the cards are valued at. These people buy cards to resell, they are a business, they ain't giving you collector prices. If you want to sell your cards for the highest price, you need to sell them to collectors directly. This is common sense and applies to everything from cards, to comics, to video games.
Great news for the other 1952 pack owners out there....now there's one less available and your stock just went up. Awesome video however, loved the thrill of the possibilities.
Impossible to tell at any one point how many are actually left. The pop report only shows how many of a card has been graded previously, but there is no check after the fact that they all still exist as graded cards. Some get stolen, destroyed, or broken out of slabs for re-submission. People rarely tell PSA to remove those entries. So.. just take pop reports as a VERY rough guide. Value can plummet if some random pops up with a bunch of these sealed packs they've been hoarding all this time. Was there ever a record kept on the print numbers? Cause these packs would have numbered in the thousands
@Ozsportscard 2 At $20k, a person would have to first be lucky enough to pull a Mantle or Mays and then be lucky enough to have it grade an 8 just to make any money! Even Mantle/Mays at a 7 is a bath. Not my business how others spend their money, but sometimes people lose their sense of reality.
@@888strummer there's probably maybe 4 to 7 sealed boxes left total discovered and undiscovered. Every year the supply dwindles by 10% of the total population. Eventually less than 24 packs will remain of 1952 Bowman.
@@ObsessedCollector Thanks for the info and that's less than I would have thought. The original poster would be right then that the value shoots up with each pack opened
That’s how you turn 20k into 300 bucks lol. I understand though. The rush must have been something. I’d almost rather leave it sealed and in my own mind that Mickey Mantle will be in that pack lol
People need to realize that any Single Vintage Pack, regardless if it is Authenticated, is most likely a dud pack. Not fake, but a Dud. I will use myself as an example why. About 20 years ago, I opened a 1986 Fleer Basketball Box. I knew on average, there would be 2-4 Jordan's, most likely 3. And I did get 3 Jordans with about 14-15 packs left to go. While the chance of a 4th Jordan exists in the remaining packs, the chance of there NOT being a 4th Jordan is much more overwhelmingly higher. And plus, I have never heard of anyone pulling 4 Jordans from a box before. Thus, I got the remaining 14-15 packs authenticated and sold them off, and because they were authenticated, I got premium prices for them and actually made nearly the price I paid for the entire box! I felt as sure as I possibly could feel that those 15 packs had no Jordans in them. At the time, no other card mattered, so after that 3rd Jordan was pulled, I viewed the those remaining packs were worthless. Anyway, what I am insinuating is that most high dollar packs like this one, are "left over" packs from a box. Hence, if you ever buy a single pack like this, you DO NOT open it, as it's most likely a leftover pack from a box where the high value cards have been pulled already. And this also goes into the "scam" of a piece together box, ie., people can piece together a full 36 pack box with leftover packs. Hence, if you are ever going to buy a high dollar Sealed box, it does not matter if it is Authenticated. What matters is of the Box is Authentcated with the inscription that it is FASC "From a Sealed Case", ie, not pieced together box.
I like this info, thanks. Very wisely notated. Being a total nerd-novice I wonder about these things. I saw this video online awhile back where someone did a break on a box of 1972 or 1974 Topps Baseball that they paid several thousands for and the box was sealed and authenticated by BBCA. After the first three or four packs the cards were all saturated with residue from the gum. I guess it seeped through the cards and they stopped the break. That's got to be a concern to anyone buying something like that, right?
@@Hudson152gopackgo I wouldn't make that much of an effort to be a schnook. It's not worth my time. I guess I'm just too poor to do anything like that, but, I wouldn't in the first place. I keep wrappers of packs I've opened just cause I like the wrappers. I paid $40. for three BEATLES wax wrappers from the 1960s just cause they looked so cool. If they'd had cards in them I never would have opened the packs. Of course, you wouldn't expect to get a GEM MINT 10 RINGO ROOKIE, right?
@@Hudson152gopackgo you are exactly right, it is a scum move. That was the only time I did that, 20 years ago, to be honest at the time, the Hobby was much different than it is now, and when I stopped opening the rest of the packs, it was more done so as an after thought, with no "scam intention". But I share that story because when it's done today, the intention is clear by the person doing it. Open up 3 Boxes of a product, hope to pull the hot hits early on, and use the leftover packs from 3 boxes to make up a full box, and BBCE it. But is it bad when all the major companies is doing it? Is it any different than Blowout or Dave Adam's or Steel City, get the case hits and then sell just the remaining boxes? Main takeaway for me is that I do not hold any old BBCE boxes as a premium, but rather approach them with hesitancy, because the majority of the BBCE boxes were done at a time when no one cared to open boxes, so how many are suspicious? Even Dave Adam's now have their own box sealing product which seems like a good approach.
Glad everyone is comfortable paying for the experience... Because that's all that it was.. It was amazing just to watch, but please leave the rest of the history sealed!!
I just received my (43) 1951 Bowman submission back from PSA after 18 months. I actually had two PSA 8's of Pee Wee Reese & Bobby Thomson. Overall, I was happy with the grades.
I would love to be on the list to receive someone pass on any fifty's vintage & when I die my family will have my beautiful new best cards I never owned vintage n at the Canadian card shows I'm jealous of the Mick mantle RC dude had f k n three 52 Topps I can't find one shitty one he has Three
Good point! I’m sure however if a nobody like me has clicked on this vid by chance, that their team of industry experts have been well notified of this historic event by now though. But I hope you’re right about them updating a database somewhere of these.
@@harjimbaugh4234 PSA from about 20 years ago. If you are a long time submitter, that always was the way. May differ for new chrome cards, but not for paper/vintage stock.
@@oneshotgrow - That makes zero sense. Why do they say that? Those card savers are awful. So much friction putting the card in. That plastic needs some sort of antifriction coating. I bought a pack and threw them in the garbage after trying one.
The phrase "For the love of all that is holy don't do that" just jumped out of my mouth. Does this guy think a 5 cent pack hasn't been searched? Come on Jeff, stop being stupid.
@@TwoPyramid you can scratch the card and/or clip a corner/edge on the lip while inserting. the sleeve allows the card to slide in more smoothly. also protects card from fingerprints.
Guys those are card savers designed for sending to PSA , not top loaders. Top loaders for sure need a sleeve, but you can't put a sleeved card into a card saver, and if you think you want to try it, use a common, because it won't end well.
Vintage Breaks are the ones just caught swapping packs. Now they open an antique that should have stayed sealed. Morons and crooks to boot. And these influencers need to be gone.
i like trading cards but what do you do with sports cards i like playing sports but i hate the pro leagues i was a skateboarder after i quit school sports and i compete against some of the best in the world when it comes to games like magic the gathering or... i can use my old vintage cards to compete in tournaments i dont know much about sports cards lol.
I don't think I've ever seen a single person sleeve a card before putting it in a card saver. You sleeve cards before top loading them, but with card savers you don't need to sleeve.
@@harjimbaugh4234 yeah. The first pack of cards I opened back in 1978, and even as a 5 year old, I kept my cards protected in binders. My dad was a huge collector and he was really big on protecting his sports cards back then. We didn’t have card savers then.
why would he not put the cards in a sleeve before he put them in that plastic holder? Seems like he could bend the edges by putting into that tight holder with no sleeve.
Oh, if I only had a time machine? Headed for 1909 for The Flying Dutchman, 1952 for Mantle, then, of course, straight to 1986 Fleer hoops for you know who…hey, I can dream, can’t I?
Because you’re more likely to damage the cards if you’re wearing gloves. Every expert of old books and stuff like cards recommends you do not wear gloves, especially if you’re only handling them for a few minutes
I was hoping for you pal. It would have been sweet to see a big card pulled even if it wasn't the Mantle. Now, the remaining packs have become more desirable. All the best!
Geoff, if you or vintage breaks would have hit the Mantle or Mays, I would have dropped my Samsung phone in amazement.....And I just bought the phone three days ago! Lol!! Great video.
Amazing I love that set! you better put your order In now for the next bowman pack,because their may not be anymore left by next years nationals!! If I had the money and access, I buy as many of those packs graded,as l could find. Their only going to go up in price
@@chi-tn that wax wrapper is worth few hundred......$400-1000. can't believe leyton ripped it the way he did. either that or the pack has been resealed with glue cuz they it shouldn't have ripped like that.
I had breakfast with Willy at the Plaza in NYC a few years back with my Pops. When the S.F. Giants brought the 2014 World Series Trophy to N.Y.C.. Epic. N.Y. Baseball Giants Historical Society ⚾️
Hello! The last time I've been tormented by one question: what do you do with a bunch of base cards that remain after unpacking different boxes? Nobody needs these basic cards. no one buys or exchanges them
Broken literally a couple dozen 1952 Bowman baseball sets made up of cards pulled from penny packs as well as from 5 cent packs so I have seen lots of cards with wax stains. Never seen a wax stain like the one pulled from that pack. I think that is what the back would look like if the pack were subjected to being reheated to resealing. My suspicion is that BBCE got it wrong on this pack being originally sealed. Additionally he had to struggle to peel the wax wrapper to open it and ended up having to tear it to get the cards out. Pretty confident that pack was resealed based on those two observations.
True enough
That was totally what I thought also that the pack had been opened and resealed.
Maybe...
Considering vintage is a scammer, hes probably in on it.
Of course it was resealed. I don’t trust any vintage packs. Almost all vintage packs, especially ones that look really good condition wise are going to have been resealed.
The excitement... of turning $20,000 into $200! Boom!!
These people need to go see a doctor
😂😂
Yeah, then into a monetized RUclips video with almost 300k views though.
The gamble
@@sarahandbrettSCAM you wouldn't be saying that if they got the Mantle ya turd bucket
I think it's cool to see things like this but it also shows how the hobby has really transformed into different worlds--one very elite and based on financials most can't fathom and everyone else. It's become collecting classic cars or wine at this point.
The retail stuff is still for the kids and is back to normal but yes the top of the line products each year are not really for the average consumer which is kind of sad. It would be nice if even the retail products had 1/1 autos even with redemptions that never expired of big names to give people something to chase after.
I had a Pete Rose Rookie Card. Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Don Drysdale etc.etc. All mint. My mother chucked a whole box out when I went away to college in the 70's. Stacks and stacks of Marvel Comics, all chucked out.
I went to college/Uni in 1998.
Only luck prevented my mom from tossing a box with my Revised era MtG cards, including 40 duals.
Later sold most of them too early (2001 I dumped the lot) but a friend of mine's dad threw out his collection in 1997, including at least two Mox Jets, 1 being a LP+ beta that he won in a tournament back then - Cause the dad said that now that he was in apprenticeship for carpenter it was time to get rid of "kids stuff" and grow up - He still hates his dad for that.
Why do they do that?? I had a magic collection with portal through 1st editíon. Gone cause "it was in her way". Unreal. I'll be a plumber for the rest of my life now...
Through 4th edition* lol
You just GOT TO love breaking a $20k pack to get maaaaaybe $500 worth of value. Some things in the hobby are just awesome hahahaha
It’s kind of like opening $20,000 worth of packs today and getting $500 of value in them lol
@@carolinatarheels7903 Def not about value. It's a physiological endorphin hit, i.e. a form of addiction. The next generation might move mostly to ePacks, to get their gamers' hit. Whoever bought that Bobby Adams spot for $1,000 (or whatever it cost) landed a $5 card. You don't do that because your are a simple hobbyist or a sound investor.
@@Fultoncards you do that when you are rich and money doesn't mean anything . $1,000 to rich people is maybe $400 to regular working stiffs.
your comment ruined this for me gg
@@BeeRumblin13 You mean $20,000.
Vintage breaks swap packs. They are legit scammers as we've seen in the recent videos of proof that they scam. Be careful who you decide to feature on your channel.
I estimate 80 to 90% based on what I have seen on RUclips is made up bullshit. It is like seeing a script for a reality show.
I guess people are tired of waiting for interesting things to happen, so they just fake it. It is all bullshit.
Geoff is a professional scammer .. trash finds trash
Without even knowing these guys...I was going to say that I would never trust this.
@@Buckmelanoma1 You're 5 months late, and there is proof they are scammers.
Most of the big 3 sport breakers are scammers. Thankfully my sport is only 30 years old and cards are low value and overly volatile so not worth scammers time as not many collect either.
Hilarious watching people clapping when someone turns a very rare 20k item into $100 worth of easily found commons. Maybe tommorow you could take a Picasso and use to wrap Christmas presents??
Meh, win some you lose some. I’ve seen people drop twice that at the casino, lose and not bat an eye.
Cards are meant to be opened. That's their purpose. A Picasso isn't meant to wrap gifts.
My biggest problem with these old single packs is that I have always considered them to be “leftover” packs with the previous ones with the stars in them having been opened already! My opinion but from what I have seen with these random older packs, more commons come out of them than stars ever do!! 🤷🏻♂️
Ugh
500k RUclips views!
No Mays or Mickey or a HOF’er? Hmm, the pack must’ve been authenticated by BBCE.
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
BBCE authenticates every pack PSA grades
@@shakascloset1700 yah dip Daniel?
BBCE is a crook me and my mom brought my late father's 1952 complete 52 bowman set just to see what Steve would offer he offered 4 grand the mantle alone is worth that along with the mays they are in great shape I would never deal with that crook
@@michaelmaluchnik2940 If you are selling your cards to anyone who is looking to also resell the card, then you will always get 65-75% of what the cards are valued at. These people buy cards to resell, they are a business, they ain't giving you collector prices. If you want to sell your cards for the highest price, you need to sell them to collectors directly. This is common sense and applies to everything from cards, to comics, to video games.
It’s still cool to have a card that old. A real artefact. Vintage has a charm that modern simply doesn’t have.
You can buy these commons in a psa 8 for $50-$70.
Great news for the other 1952 pack owners out there....now there's one less available and your stock just went up. Awesome video however, loved the thrill of the possibilities.
Nice Way of Looking At Your Investment...
100% like when a rare low numbered car crashes LOL
Impossible to tell at any one point how many are actually left. The pop report only shows how many of a card has been graded previously, but there is no check after the fact that they all still exist as graded cards. Some get stolen, destroyed, or broken out of slabs for re-submission. People rarely tell PSA to remove those entries. So.. just take pop reports as a VERY rough guide. Value can plummet if some random pops up with a bunch of these sealed packs they've been hoarding all this time. Was there ever a record kept on the print numbers? Cause these packs would have numbered in the thousands
Talk about flushing $20k down the toilet.
@Ozsportscard 2 At $20k, a person would have to first be lucky enough to pull a Mantle or Mays and then be lucky enough to have it grade an 8 just to make any money! Even Mantle/Mays at a 7 is a bath. Not my business how others spend their money, but sometimes people lose their sense of reality.
lol the people who buy into these breaks can easily flush 20k down the toilet and not even blink.
The remaining unopened 52 Bowman packs just skyrocketed in value 🤣🤑
Haha yep! That’s one reason why I love investing in sealed wax.
@@SportsCardInvestor How many 52 Bowman packs do you think are out there? I thought maybe some people have full boxes still with many packs?
@@888strummer there's probably maybe 4 to 7 sealed boxes left total discovered and undiscovered. Every year the supply dwindles by 10% of the total population. Eventually less than 24 packs will remain of 1952 Bowman.
@@ObsessedCollector Thanks for the info and that's less than I would have thought. The original poster would be right then that the value shoots up with each pack opened
@@888strummer You can look on the pop report of sealed packs to get a better idea.
all 6 cards were in numerical order in the set. 165-170.
Yea they do that and I garantee you the guy that opened the box knew that to when they sold the packs ; )
@@miketyson8933 and the SCI team sold other five spots to people and cut their loses
@@miketyson8933are you saying the pack was opened then resealed?
That’s how you turn 20k into 300 bucks lol. I understand though. The rush must have been something. I’d almost rather leave it sealed and in my own mind that Mickey Mantle will be in that pack lol
i dont think this pack was worth $300....
Schrodinger's Mickey Mantle card
funny how everyone walked away when he started talking at the end
Feel like I just watched Geraldo open Al Capone ‘s vault again.
I remember staying up waaaay too lake for this as a kid. Total bust tbat should of never aired
He’ll never live that down. LMAO
Same level of jack2ssery, that's for sure.
Pack was probably opened in 2005.
A bunch of commons. I didn’t know Panini was around back then…lol
😂 brutal truth
Damn, I wish this was the top comment. So true
I still have that huge collection in Dallas I haven't had time to go through if ever back in town.
I'll give you 12 bucks for it
Wow that was a dumpster fire
😂 love it
People need to realize that any Single Vintage Pack, regardless if it is Authenticated, is most likely a dud pack. Not fake, but a Dud. I will use myself as an example why. About 20 years ago, I opened a 1986 Fleer Basketball Box. I knew on average, there would be 2-4 Jordan's, most likely 3. And I did get 3 Jordans with about 14-15 packs left to go.
While the chance of a 4th Jordan exists in the remaining packs, the chance of there NOT being a 4th Jordan is much more overwhelmingly higher. And plus, I have never heard of anyone pulling 4 Jordans from a box before.
Thus, I got the remaining 14-15 packs authenticated and sold them off, and because they were authenticated, I got premium prices for them and actually made nearly the price I paid for the entire box!
I felt as sure as I possibly could feel that those 15 packs had no Jordans in them. At the time, no other card mattered, so after that 3rd Jordan was pulled, I viewed the those remaining packs were worthless.
Anyway, what I am insinuating is that most high dollar packs like this one, are "left over" packs from a box.
Hence, if you ever buy a single pack like this, you DO NOT open it, as it's most likely a leftover pack from a box where the high value cards have been pulled already.
And this also goes into the "scam" of a piece together box, ie., people can piece together a full 36 pack box with leftover packs.
Hence, if you are ever going to buy a high dollar Sealed box, it does not matter if it is Authenticated. What matters is of the Box is Authentcated with the inscription that it is FASC "From a Sealed Case", ie, not pieced together box.
I like this info, thanks. Very wisely notated. Being a total nerd-novice I wonder about these things. I saw this video online awhile back where someone did a break on a box of 1972 or 1974 Topps Baseball that they paid several thousands for and the box was sealed and authenticated by BBCA. After the first three or four packs the cards were all saturated with residue from the gum. I guess it seeped through the cards and they stopped the break. That's got to be a concern to anyone buying something like that, right?
Wow. Definitely killed this explanation.
Pull all the food cards and sell the dud packs for high dollar? Kinda ratty if you ask me. This is why you can't buy sealed wax online anymore
@@Hudson152gopackgo I wouldn't make that much of an effort to be a schnook. It's not worth my time. I guess I'm just too poor to do anything like that, but, I wouldn't in the first place. I keep wrappers of packs I've opened just cause I like the wrappers. I paid $40. for three BEATLES wax wrappers from the 1960s just cause they looked so cool. If they'd had cards in them I never would have opened the packs. Of course, you wouldn't expect to get a GEM MINT 10 RINGO ROOKIE, right?
@@Hudson152gopackgo you are exactly right, it is a scum move. That was the only time I did that, 20 years ago, to be honest at the time, the Hobby was much different than it is now, and when I stopped opening the rest of the packs, it was more done so as an after thought, with no "scam intention".
But I share that story because when it's done today, the intention is clear by the person doing it. Open up 3 Boxes of a product, hope to pull the hot hits early on, and use the leftover packs from 3 boxes to make up a full box, and BBCE it.
But is it bad when all the major companies is doing it? Is it any different than Blowout or Dave Adam's or Steel City, get the case hits and then sell just the remaining boxes?
Main takeaway for me is that I do not hold any old BBCE boxes as a premium, but rather approach them with hesitancy, because the majority of the BBCE boxes were done at a time when no one cared to open boxes, so how many are suspicious?
Even Dave Adam's now have their own box sealing product which seems like a good approach.
Glad everyone is comfortable paying for the experience... Because that's all that it was.. It was amazing just to watch, but please leave the rest of the history sealed!!
#keepitsealed 💫
Says the guy who’s name is Opening Stuff. LMAO.
No
Broke people don't open.
never mind how it was supposed to be enjoyed as a kids thing and you want adults to gatekeep it.
Cool to see the Bobby Adams card--he is my friend's grandfather
I just received my (43) 1951 Bowman submission back from PSA after 18 months. I actually had two PSA 8's of Pee Wee Reese & Bobby Thomson. Overall, I was happy with the grades.
@@user-fw3sk9mx8h 3.50
I would love to be on the list to receive someone pass on any fifty's vintage & when I die my family will have my beautiful new best cards I never owned vintage n at the Canadian card shows I'm jealous of the Mick mantle RC dude had f k n three 52 Topps I can't find one shitty one he has Three
I just got a Gem 10 1991 Pee Wee Herman mug shot back from PSA...
The privilege of opening Al Capone's empty vault baseball card style.
Vintage breaks literally confirmed pack scamming yesterday😂
YA DIPPED DANIEL !? 😜
Why ya a Dip Daniel?
What can I type in RUclips to find bro
did you mail PSA the cracked case so they can update (decrease) the pop report?
Good point! I’m sure however if a nobody like me has clicked on this vid by chance, that their team of industry experts have been well notified of this historic event by now though.
But I hope you’re right about them updating a database somewhere of these.
Why not penny sleeve it before the card saver?
These old cards its recommended to put them straight into a cardsaver or top loader
@@harjimbaugh4234 PSA from about 20 years ago. If you are a long time submitter, that always was the way. May differ for new chrome cards, but not for paper/vintage stock.
@@harjimbaugh4234 the past 25 years of history with grading?
@@oneshotgrow - That makes zero sense. Why do they say that? Those card savers are awful. So much friction putting the card in. That plastic needs some sort of antifriction coating. I bought a pack and threw them in the garbage after trying one.
I remember when those could be had for $50-$60. Almost nobody collected unopened packs.
When was that, 1975?
@@threefortytwo23 close, around 1980.
@@CapAnson12345 ahhh before the great 1981-1985 pre boom!
You must be pretty old if you were born in 1852.
You pay a grand for the pack and if it has Mantle or May's you split the profit. Paying 20k for that is insanity
Did he really not put them in pennies sleeves! Wow
Thanks for opening it up. Cards look good for being 70 years old.
The phrase "For the love of all that is holy don't do that" just jumped out of my mouth. Does this guy think a 5 cent pack hasn't been searched? Come on Jeff, stop being stupid.
When the guy asks for an applause I laughed, everyone has their phones in their hands recording this.
"please clap"
And it was probly resealed.
that occurs way more than most realize . way more .
I was born in 1953.
Glad I didn’t pay 20,000$ for that pack.
However, $0.05 in 1953 is worth $0.59 today. That’s the original price adjusted to inflation. I’d say it’s worth that lol
Geoff is looking at him like " are you really not going to put them in a penny sleeve first"?
Serious question: how necessary is that, and why?
@@matthewryan9019 thanks
@@TwoPyramid you can scratch the card and/or clip a corner/edge on the lip while inserting. the sleeve allows the card to slide in more smoothly. also protects card from fingerprints.
Guys those are card savers designed for sending to PSA , not top loaders. Top loaders for sure need a sleeve, but you can't put a sleeved card into a card saver, and if you think you want to try it, use a common, because it won't end well.
@@canadiantraveller281 that's what I thought, thank you
OMG! I can't believe you opened it. That takes guts
And a lot of stupidity based on the odds lol
He didn't open it
Dude was awesome in Wedding Crashers.
It's cool, feeling like a kid again opening up a pack of baseball cards. But in this case, a $20,000 pack.
Vintage Breaks are the ones just caught swapping packs. Now they open an antique that should have stayed sealed. Morons and crooks to boot. And these influencers need to be gone.
I NEED TO START SELLING MY CARDS AND INVESTING IN GRADED CARDS
I have a Mantle and Frank Howard rookie card, Matty Alou Bobby Bolin I have a few Kareem Abdul-Jabbar cards as well
Time bomb 💣
The cards have not seen daylight for 70 years, that in itself is exciting.
Lot of guys too
@@stevedamien638 Yeah, you probably were sweating it out.
Fun experience! Thanks!
You didn’t open the pack. You participated in a break.
i like trading cards but what do you do with sports cards i like playing sports but i hate the pro leagues i was a skateboarder after i quit school sports and i compete against some of the best in the world when it comes to games like magic the gathering or... i can use my old vintage cards to compete in tournaments i dont know much about sports cards lol.
He tears the pack while opening it, and he sticks a non sleeved card into a card saver, smh. Total rookie!
I don't think I've ever seen a single person sleeve a card before putting it in a card saver. You sleeve cards before top loading them, but with card savers you don't need to sleeve.
Uses bare hands fingers all over the front of it card. Lots of skin oils all over all of them
@@harjimbaugh4234 yeah. The first pack of cards I opened back in 1978, and even as a 5 year old, I kept my cards protected in binders. My dad was a huge collector and he was really big on protecting his sports cards back then. We didn’t have card savers then.
@@harjimbaugh4234 yes he is...and so am I
U shouldbt put penny sleeved in a card saver unless its a modern era chromium or glossy card
why would he not put the cards in a sleeve before he put them in that plastic holder? Seems like he could bend the edges by putting into that tight holder with no sleeve.
@Kaneda383 ok, but why? doesn't make sense. The sleeve protects the card.
I remember nobody used to sleeve cards before toploading. Found my childhood cards, and almost all of them were like that and made me cringe
Watching from Nova Scotia Canada 😊
I got 1991 upper deck baseball card box sealed and 2021 Topps complete set for sale.
So many people who are envious in this world.
I was 7 years old when these and others were 5 cents per/pack. We chewed the gum and played with the cards . If only i knew then what i know today.
Is there a reason they dont penny sleeve these before sliding into the semi rigid? I bought a couple Mantles last week and they came the same way.
Yeh they should be doing that, their rich clowns that don’t know what they are doing
I thought the exact same things. 1952 pack-fresh cards and he's putting them into a cheap, flimsy card holder with no sleeve. Wtf?
Could’ve bought 400000 of those packs back in 1952 for 20 grand. Today you get one. 😆😆
And you still wouldn’t pull a Mantle or Mays
Oh, if I only had a time machine? Headed for 1909 for The Flying Dutchman, 1952 for Mantle, then, of course, straight to 1986 Fleer hoops for you know who…hey, I can dream, can’t I?
But not the 1951 Mantle?
@@MGAF688 Whoops.
No star jordans sre superior
@@stevenrex-p5g Which one is that?
Very much like Geraldo Rivera opening the vault and finding...
Pack swapping scammers, not a good look doing what is essentially free advertising for them
Straight up lol
In the beginning of the video...the Mickey Mantle card looks like a 52' reprint. What would be a rough estimate worth?
Not that any of these really warrant grading, but still shouldn't the card have been sleeved before putting the semi-rigid?
That's what I thought
No penny sleeve before card saver? Is that good enough?
Its utterly incomprehensible that they opened this without gloves on. I just don’t understand
Let's just say they're not the sharpest tools in the shed.
Exactly what I was thinking.
That's the first thing I thought
Because you’re more likely to damage the cards if you’re wearing gloves. Every expert of old books and stuff like cards recommends you do not wear gloves, especially if you’re only handling them for a few minutes
@@snooperbob exactly
The world is Mad!!
1:02 it so historic,... Lol
That was nice of the Vintage Breaks guy to not switch out the pack before he opened it
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@@aaronkosharskyswhiteknight5224 to take out good cards and just replace them with common cards and reseal the pack
@@DingChavez-m1x I know dipshit. Wheres the proof that he did it?
$20,000 for fifteen dollars worth of commons. LOL
$15 I would pay $25
@Ozsportscard 2 That's a great analogy. He sure wasn't in on that fix.
@Ozsportscard 2 yea this is as dumb as it gets
I was hoping for you pal. It would have been sweet to see a big card pulled even if it wasn't the Mantle. Now, the remaining packs have become more desirable. All the best!
This video is the Exact reason not to collect cards. Way more disappointment in collecting than joy. It’s just above investing in scratch off tickets.
A neighbor of mine was cleaning out her attic above the general store in town and found 2 sealed boxes of 1952. Can’t wait to tell her about them…
BBCE Authenticated this pack before grading at PSA... Didn't hear anyone there questioning if it was legit
Nor has anyone (but the lone commenter above) noted that the cards were sequential - when does that ever happen?
This was a bogus pack.
Cards in that era were put in at a numerical order
Sacrilegious to open up a pack that old.
My neighbor has boxes on boxes of those cards from the 50s and 60s his mother never let him open. He still has em. In his 60s. ..
Bull$hit
@@turtleneckferret how u figure.?. When i saw them . Tops cards with broken up gum in them and all. Now go back in your trash can...
How do I know how much certain cards are? Like there’s different rarity cards and idrk which are worth more
Damm! From a $20k value to about $200 bucks. That sucks!
Geoff, if you or vintage breaks would have hit the Mantle or Mays, I would have dropped my Samsung phone in amazement.....And I just bought the phone three days ago! Lol!! Great video.
Amazing I love that set! you better put your order In now for the next bowman pack,because their may not be anymore left by next years nationals!! If I had the money and access, I buy as many of those packs graded,as l could find. Their only going to go up in price
They're*
Nobody needs your lame correction.
@@BenMcMullin gonna cry?
Didn’t vintage breaks just scam an 81 Topps pack?
They are now known scammers. Camera don't lie.
Video?
@@harjimbaugh4234 yup i saw it dont think anything happened. Looked good to me.
Bro, why did he open that pack like that😂😂 and SCI complimented his steady hand??
Everybody is a critic
@@chi-tn that wax wrapper is worth few hundred......$400-1000. can't believe leyton ripped it the way he did. either that or the pack has been resealed with glue cuz they it shouldn't have ripped like that.
Great job 👏🏽 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Just sold my 52 bowman Mays in psa 5.5
Pocket change for filthy rich dudes. It's just that gambling rush that's addicting
I had breakfast with Willy at the Plaza in NYC a few years back with my Pops. When the S.F. Giants brought the 2014 World Series Trophy to N.Y.C.. Epic.
N.Y. Baseball Giants Historical Society ⚾️
Whoever thought it was okay to put the raw piece of gum against the cards was a savage lol
Hello! The last time I've been tormented by one question: what do you do with a bunch of base cards that remain after unpacking different boxes? Nobody needs these basic cards. no one buys or exchanges them
this hobby is just about imagining and daydreaming - like lottery junkies lmao
Wow!!! Love it.
So what would the value be for selling those cards now?
Next to nothing, my guess would be the cards inside that pack are worth a grand total.of $150.
Dude felt fortunate and grateful but it wasn’t his money 😂😂😂😂
Which packs should l buy
Very cool no matter what you pull.
Zero chance there is a non searched pack from this era....
Another great video as always
That was so exciting!!!
So, hey it was fun to watch
Hello from TEXAS love your content so I’m starting to get into cards what’s the best to card boxes out there to buy thank you
Hi good day. You know I have some mickey mantle cards. very old and with signatures I have no experience in this what can I do
He’s not related to Vince Vaughn?
Grown men. This is Gold
The guy in the back putting so much effort into his video recording 🤣🤣🤣