Peugeot 206 ABS pump replacement - Part 1: Removal
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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Part 1 'How to replace the ABS pump on a Peugeot 206 1.1 litre.
PLEASE NOTE: Disclaimer: This video is for entertainment only. Since working on your vehicle's braking system is a serious and safety-critical process, only attempt any repairs if you are one hundred percent sure of your abilities. If in any doubt, seek professional help.
Another video showing 'real world' car repair and maintenance - so no glossy studios or workshop, just myself working on a car on a driveway outside in the cold because chances are that's where you viewers and subscribers will be working on your own cars. That's not to say I wouldn't say no to a nice warm workshop or filming studio.
In this video I show how to remove the ABS pump from a typical Peugeot 206. In this example it's a late 2004 1.1 litre 8 valve with ABS...and not a lot else. The clock was against me because the car was booked in for a free retest two days after I filmed this, plus heavy snow and freezing temperatures were on their way in the form of 'The Beast from The East'.
ABS faults on this make and model are well known and usually down to pump failure - which can show up as a 'locked valve' on diagnostic equipment. Few months ago the ABS light kept lighting and staying on after hitting a pothole. Sometimes it would go off if engine was switched off and on again and stay unlit (apart from usual self-test when putting ignition on) but as it got closer to MOT time, the ABS light stayed on - typical! So I plugged in the Foxwell and it came up with 'locked valve'. I Googled it and this problem affects other PSA vehicles and other makes that use this type of ABS pump. Despite the failed pump, the Foxwell showed accurate speed traces from the ABS wheel sensors so I didn't have to replace any of them.
Since ABS pumps are very expensive from main dealers and still £250 from independent specialists (with 2 year warranty) I decided to take a risk and buy a good used ABS unit from specialist breakers on Ebay - for £40 including postage! Bit of a risk but feedback for the seller was very good.
My advice before starting this or any other brake repair is to:
Clean up and spray Plusgas release agent around brake-pipe unions and the brake caliper/drum bleed nipples (bleed screws) - preferably a couple of hours before attempting to release the nipples or unions. Nothing worse than getting half way through a job and you can't bleed out the trapped air or release a pipe union because it has seized or snapped off.
Take reference photos and make notes before you take anything apart. I still do and I've worked on cars since 1987 (DIY and professionally)
Just like to point out I am not being payed to use any products or tools in my videos. The main reason I use 'Plus Gas' is because it works well. It's a very thin viscosity liquid which creeps into the smallest clearances by capillary action to start releasing joints and threads that are stuck from dirt, rust or time. You don't need a lot either.
You sir are a real gentleman, thanks for the video!
i have to say, that video is awesome! thanks for made it!!
Thank you bro i have the same trouble with pomp abs, now is fix
great video
It’s awesome. Thanks
Thanks for your video dude, it's awesome, I need to do that today on my 206 :) It'll be easy ! Thx
Hope it helps, don't forget to take photos as reference guides before you disconnect anything and don't rush it. If the brake pipes to the ABS block are original or never been disconnected, the pipe unions can be a bit stubborn to undo. Go easy and spray some thread release on them before you plan to remove them. Good luck. 👍
@@TK42138 Thanks for your advice :) Yeah I always take a lot of pictures when I fix things, it helps so much. I watched your video yesterday so I've put some spray yesterday evening, and again this morning so it should be ok, I hope so :)
Thanks a lot !
@@TK42138 I forgot to answer you back but I've done it andd everything works perfectly, it has passed the mechanical inspection :)
Thanks again !
@@dorianinho30 Excellent!😊👍
Really useful! Thanks :)
Hi there, how did you bleed the brakes after fitting the pump? Did you just use the conventional two-person method? Thanks again.
Hi, I prefer to use a pump pressure bleeder which screws onto the master cylinder reservoir. I don't like the two-person method because pushing brake pedal all the way down to the floor can damage the seals by flipping or reversing the cupped seals so it can't generate hydraulic pressure. If you have to use two person method then brake pedal should only be pushed to same amount that you would in normal braking.
TK42138 Thanks! I’ve just bought the Eezibleed pressure kit today so hope that works. My main concern was making sure fluid fills the voids in the pump after replacing it. Thank you very much for your reply. :)
@@kieranbutroid4631 On the Peugeot 206 the ABS pump will be bled once it's connected up and braking system is bled through. Officially, any ABS pump should be kept level during transport and handling to reduce chance of air getting in or fluid out when it's disconnected from donor car or after bench testing if a factory rebuilt part. However in real world, so long as system is bled, you should be ok.
@@kieranbutroid4631 Ezibleed should work ok. Follow the instructions though. Been years since I used an Ezibleed. I think the spare tyre pressure must be reduced to 15 psi. Also good idea to have a hose nearby just in case you have to rinse off brake fluid splashes from Ezibleed.
Bonjour,
Grâce à votre vidéo je vais tenter de changer mon bloc abs.
Pouvez vous preciser si il faut purger le liquide de frein ?
Le fait de mettre un plastique sur le bocal de liquide de frein est suffisant pour éviter les prises d'air ?
Merci d'avance 🙏
Bonjour,
oui - vous devez purger le système de freinage après le montage d'une pompe ABS ou tout autre processus impliquant le démontage des conduites et/ou flexibles de frein. Le plastique sous le capuchon réduit la quantité de liquide déversé car il endommagerait la peinture.
@@TK42138 parfait merci beaucoup 👍
Hi, is it possible to solve this problem by combining only the ECU and not the whole ABS pump?
Unfortunately not. The abs and control module are almost impossible to separate without causing damage to both.
did this fix the problem?
Yes. Four years since this repair and everything works.
just about to do this on my 2004 206SW 1.4. Can I ask what model Foxwell you have?.. all the advice I've seen says you "must" use Diagbox or Peugeot Planet... my other code readers don't work on a Peugeot but if Foxwell does I'll get one of those !
Hi, my one is the NT414 which is now several years old but still works. I think it's been superceded by the NT515 or possibly 600 series.
I didn't have any problems with my Foxwell connecting with our 2004 Pug. In fact the replacement ABS unit cleared the fault code. Just make sure the brakes are bled before connecting the battery. A bit of polythene bag under the reservoir lid can reduce brake fluid loss when you loosen off the pipe unions but have old cloths to absorb spillages because brake fluid will damage paint.
@@TK42138 Thank you !... I have various scan tools that recognise the protocol but when I run a fault check they all say "no errors in ECU" even though I have a permanent ABS light on, pedal pulses on application and I'm pretty sure it's the controller as I've tested the sensors..cheers !
@@TK42138 I replaced just the controller box yesterday hoping I could get away with it, ABS light went out!.. until I started driving then it came back..I read on a peugeot forum, controller and pump need to be a pair, so it looks like I need to do what you've done..
@@PompeyMatt17 How did you do just the box? Is that a seperate unit? I thought that was attached to the pump in this video or am I mistaken? I'm looking at doign this on my gf's citreon c3 but wondered if I can just do the controller! Cheers
When replacing the abs pump does the pump need to have exactly the same code on the bar code or will any do of the same model?
The code must be the same to ensure the correct type of ABS is fitted for your particular age, model and option list of the car. Some 206 had ABS with electronic stability control which means abs pump is slightly different.
TK42138 cheers for the reply. I found an abs pump at a local dealer. I couldn’t find the exact abs pump and feared I would have had to code another model.
@@luketuttiett Electronic stability control is also known by Peugeot as 'Electronic Brake force Distribution'. So long as part numbers match then replacement unit should be fine. Regarding abs warning light - on my car, I didn't need to reset light as the fault was a seized motor. However some abs faults might need clearing using suitable code reader/OBD unit.
TK42138 mines a blocked pumped too. I had it apart and repaired the motor but it didn’t last that long. (The bearing was shot). I use Delphi DS150e so it’ll clear the car. They didn’t make it easy for us guys to repair the pumps.
I was surprised when the abs warning light went out as soon as new pump was fitted and connected up. My old pump motor had corroded under the cover. As you say, they don't make it easy to remove. Cover was staked on to the pump body.
Hi, my friend has a problem with their Citroen C2 1.1L and i think it might have the same engine as this - do you know if thats so, or exactly what engine this one in the video is? Fantastic video btw, if its the same engine this video makes it look easy to replace! Mechanic quoted £500!
Hi, yes - the Citroen C2 1.1 is the same engine (TU series) as the Peugeot 206 and other models.
The ABS pump is generally straight forward to remove (once the headlight is removed) but it's definitely worth spraying some anti-seize on the pipe unions on the valve block. They can be really stubborn because of the steel pipe unions are screwed in to an aluminium valve block.
£500 seems a bit steep. Just make sure the part number on replacement pump is same as your old pump. Even though C1 is mechanically similar to the Peugeot 206, there may be differences on the type of abs pump used depending on what options your car has, so any replacement pump must be the same. Also, don't condemn the pump until you're sure it isn't just a duff wheel sensor.
Is this the same on a 207 1.4?
Thank you for your videos... Is your method appliable for Peugeot 307 2.0L HDI?
Not familiar with that particular ABS unit. I suspect it will be a bit more sophisticated with regard to bleeding the system after installation and resetting or coding the ABS pump to the car.
Just been Googling 307 abs issues and apparently there have been some dealer recalls for ABS ECU and/or associated wiring loom which can suffer water ingress.
www.peugeotforums.com/threads/307-abs-pump-fault-52-reg-2-0-hdi.1793/
@@TK42138 thanks a lot peace !!!
How did you take the wiring connector off? - This looks similar to Citroen C2
On the 206 and other similar PSA group models, there is a large cam type clip which is released and as it moves, it forces apart the ABS connector block. It can be hard to remove if it's never been apart. I used WD40 to work its way between the dirt that builds up between the outer parts of the connector. Often the clip will snap if it's forced as years of engine heat can make it brittle.
How did you get the connector off from the pump ?
There is a clip that needs lifting and pivoting back to release the connector. It will probably be quite hard to move if it's never been removed before. I sprayed some WD40 over the clip pivot points and gently worked it loose.
I broke the yellow lever 😞
@@peterrevens8454tambien
Tá tudo bem?
Car is still in regular use and not had any problems since I replaced the ABS unit.
Original failed due to motor shaft bearings corroding and seizing.
donner moi le brochage du capteur abs
Je vais jeter un oeil et revenir à vous
I have some data screengrabs for you but in jpeg form. Can email them.