Progress update on the Pimax Crystal Super, QLED & micro-OLED VR
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
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Crystal Super: The world’s first changeable optical engine for QLED & micro-OLED: The Crystal Super represents a significant leap forward from the highly successful Crystal. Boasting a total pixel count of 29.5 million, it significantly surpasses the Crystal’s 16.6 million pixels, enabling a larger field of view (FOV), and higher pixels per degree (PPD) at the same time. These enhancements, combined with Pimax’s proprietary, innovative glass lenses, make Crystal Super the clearest and the most immersive VR headset.
Besides FOV and PPD, the choice of display panel technology plays a critical role in the user’s visual experience. While QLED remains the top choice for high-end VR headsets, OLED panels are gaining traction, particularly following the Vision Pro’s release. Each technology offers distinct advantages for specific applications. The Crystal Super allows users the flexibility to choose between these technologies or opt for both, leveraging the advantages of each at a reasonable cost.
This flexibility stems from the world’s first replaceable optical engine system introduced by Pimax at the event. This system permits effortless swapping of the optical engine, which includes both the display panels and lenses, thereby maximizing versatility and users’ freedom to choose.
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Since the lenses will be interchangeable, if you guys create more lenses in the future, such as higher refresh rate, micro OLED or higher pixel counts, will be compatible with the Crystal super? Although I think all the specs right now are stupendous, and can’t imagine needing anything more powerful, but you never know what the future holds
when will there be an update for the 12k?
Is there a way to reduce the chromatic aberration by using a different lens coating or by making further adjustments on the software side? It's the obly thing keeping me away from using your headsets
Are you considering incorporating the Almalence style solution to lens distortion into your pipeline?
The trial wasn't perfect but when it did work the effect showed a clear usecase. Especially given that the chromatic aberration is an issue with your lens type, and the focus on clarity in this brand of headsets.
Will there be a trade-in program for Crystal users?
Just a suggestion..... if you're going to offer a premium headset, please get rid of the SMAS sound and make the DMAS standard with the Crystal Super, putting the SMAS on such a high end headset would be kind of silly?
This way customers get a premium experience both visually and audibly, sound can make or break a VR experience, Half Life Alyx is a perfect example, the sound in that game is on another level.
Agree with this. The DMAS is essential and the SMAS is just crap. DMAS should be standard.
I fully agree with what you just said: I've had to buy the DMAS upgrade(which I should be receiving today) because I find the SMAS audio ear-phones very lacking on my Crystal Light! They are simply not loud enough and the base is just not there!
@@gcampagn I am waiting for my Crystal Light, supposed to be mid to end of August (Ordered May 31 and not a pre-order), I will try the SMAS, if they sound as good as the sound of the Pico 4, I'll be happy. Otherwise, I already 3D Printed adaptors for the Vive DAS speakers, will try those before I spend for DMAS.... DMAS is $140 Canadian from the Pimax website and $250 Canadian from the Pimax Amazon Canada store (that's a huge difference in price).
Can you please let me know how you like the DMAS, seems everyone has a different opinion, some say just as good as Index / Reverb G2 for sound, others say not as good.
Same with SMAS, some say just as good as Pico 4 or Quest 3, some say more like Quest 2 (Quest 2 is horrible). Pico 4 and Quest 3 actually aren't bad.
@@jackr.749 Ok, I will let you know how my DMAS work out with my Crystal Light.
@@gcampagn Thank you! :)
Wow the 30% form factor reduction is a pleasant surprise! I just assumed the Crystal shell would just be reused for Super to reduce costs. It’s nice to see that as was the case with the light, Pimax is responsive to customer demands.
Yes. the 30% reduction is very impressive. I hope they can apply it to a v2.0 of the Crystal Light!
@@somerandomperson8282They could basically just sell it as an module for that frame at some point, 8.3MP is still a resolution that will be nice for years to come.
I was surprised too! I hope this means it will be lighter and close to the weight of the Crystal Light!
@@burgerboy3005 I hope it will be lighter
The through the lens shots of the micro OLED look incredible. Cant wait for that one.
Through the lens doesn't do it any justice, it looks sharper in real!
Indeed, it looks crazy sharp!
The OLED is the main reason I'm interested. I hope it's not too delayed.
Love the lighted panel, and the definition is incredible. This could be all one needs for the ultimate consumer VR experience.
Just an honest question, why was it a big deal and so many people were upset about no lighted exterior panel? Why bring it back? What's the benefit from this?
@@demdirtyboyz247 It's purely aesthetic
@@Pricklyhedgehog72 OK, I just saw a lot of people complaining about how it wasn't included on the newer headsets and I was confused why it was a mentioned feature again. All good, to each their own. Looks cool.
@@demdirtyboyz247 agreed, looks sweet
Love that you guys are listening to the community and giving us a lot more updates on progress, potential hickups and other videos. Great job!
30% smaller! Thank you. Can't wait for shipping. Really hoping I can buy one this year. Keep up the good work.
Just to say I feel the most excited I've been for over 20 years about a new tech :) I feel like I'm 7 years old again! Thanks for taking us into the future :) If there was 1 comment, I wish there was some very easy bullet point list of the advantages and disadvantages of QLED and OLED. I had no idea which one to choose so literally just chose QLED because you said most people were, and most people can't be wrong ..
I can answer that: QLED give you bigger FOV and OLED smaller FOV.
Is the oled shaper than qled looking at through the lens footage or the same (oled advantage only is richer blacks though the qled will have local dimming which won't be far off)?
@@justinspirational OLED is sharper but not brighter. The problem with OLED is brightness. QLED is brighter, bigger FOV.
Oled has better contrast (colors), sharper image. Led's are back lit, so when things are black, they are a dark grey on led panels. Oled each pixel can turn off, making it black when off. Oled's aren't as bright. Usually, they have a problem if other light sources are very bright near them (drowning the oled light). In a headset shouldn't be an issue.
I have an oled TV, I probably will never go back to a led. Honestly, it was a game changer watching movies.
I like that you make it smaller, it's a game changer
I like that it is smaller too, but will my old Lighthouse faceplate fit?
Preordered the Super QLED and can't wait to fly in DCS with it!!
I know that you guys set timeline deadlines for development but please make sure this headset is perfect before release. We’ll wait!
PIMAX -- You Guys are GREAT!!! Waiting for Crystal Super!!
I’m absolutely blown away that you guys were able to make it smaller. I haven’t had a new PCVR headset since the index and I cannot wait to own the Pimax Crystal super. My preorder has been in! I do hope it comes with the higher and audio attachments.
The crystal never needed to be that big in the first place. The were reusing the chassis designed for the 12K QLED headset with near full human FOV. Much bigger lenses.
You guys are extremely important for the future of the industry. Drop the Swiss Army knife mentality and divert attention to QA and we are GOLDEN!
I think the swiss army knife method suits the super and 12k pretty well tbh. I think the crystal light was them dropping the army knife mentality. And that's a great headset, but I think pimax will have the best influence on the market doing exactly what they do now. Pushing limits and innovating.
Thanks for releasing another update. I’m looking forward to seeing the reviews for the Super. The Crystal Light almost made me finally upgrade from my G2. The Super is probably the one that’ll do it.
It would be really nice to see DMAS standard on the Super, though. It doesn’t feel good to have to pay extra to get the audio quality my G2 has standard.
Love what you guys are doing and looking forward to hearing more about the progress on the upcoming headsets. Well done, everyone at Pimax.
Hi! Changing form factor of Super HMD also means - current lighthouse plate will be incompatible. I guess this means Super headset will have it's own lighthouse faceplate. Also, we haven't seen anything yet about the Mixed Reality faceplate, that would be really nice.
Thanks Pimax for your innovation in VR ! Love my Artisan for simracing but hope for a replacement headset soon.
Please don't fool us with FOV, make it AT LEAST 130 hFOV for everyone, instead of being a maximum value.
In the one pager advert, you're referring to a "massive FOV", but guys, 130°hFOV was the MIMINAL FOV you got from the cheapest headset of the previous line up (5K series).
Crystal Super even with 130° hFOV won't have a "massive" FOV anyway, it's just way under what you were providing with previous generation. So don't miss it...
The 30% reduction in size will add substantially to the usability & comfort of this headset 👍
I would be interested in the optical stack of the OLED version, any details on that. Just curious about optics.
Mostly if its a true folding pancake and what is the reasoning behind using folding designs when you have room for non folding design.
The headset looks really nice, Crystal already was a good looking headset. I think this looks even better as it removes the excess width, but still retains the wider but shorter design. As XR4 and VR1 look a bit silly, they are so elongated designs.
Well Done Pimax. Keep pushing
Can you please make sure the DMAS speakers are black this time 🙂
Its confirmed Pink color. 😂
Pimax, great that you come up with new products all the time, but why don’t you focus on fixing the issues of other headsets like the Crystal. The Passthrough quality is just unacceptable, you promised to release soon the wider FOV lenses for the Crystal, but we haven’t heard anything about it yet, more than just reviews from prototypes.
How about providing solid drivers for the Hand Tracking Module? Right now the way it is it can’t be used. In MSFS2020 the virtual hands are 15cm higher than your actual hands. After some time of use, the hand tracking module is not recognized any more and gives you a USB error. You have to unscrew, then unplug the hand tracking module and then reconnect it for it to work again. It shouldn’t be like that.
Pimax needs to honor and respect that a lot of people bought the Crystal and that we are waiting for fixes and promised products for the Crystal.
Amen brother. They need to finish the crystal and deliver on their promises before I buy another unfinished product.
Can't agree more
i disagree - new headset development for PCVR is basically at a standstill and has been for the last 4-5 years. id much rather them focus on R&D for better tech in future HMDs
@@killerkon141 Clearly you haven't spent $2000 on an unfinished product...
The only way they make revenue is selling headsets, so it's in their interests to keep pumping out new models to drive sales. Sadly I think they probably view the crystal as a bit of a mis-step in some ways, unnecessarily expensive to make with the XR chipset and battery for a standalone function which never really left the incubator let alone developed into anything usable... I'm not particularly hopeful for seeing any major improvements to the crystal going forward, I think they seem to be focusing all their energy on the light, and the super variants. Not saying that's right of course!
I am happy to see Pimax focus on the important stuff, the weight, the PPD, and strip everything else down. I am afraid the interchangeable optics system is going to be another one of those that slows down the overall progress. Like...is it really necessary?
That new design looks really nice, i see one with carbon fiber looking front plate.. that would be quite cool. Matte carbon fiber look.
Cracked a beer and it finished lol.
Thanks for the regular updates, Jaap - much appreciated! It seems Pimax is trying to make an honest effort to improve communications and product cycles. Love the new Super headset formfactor redesign; pretty happy with my Crystal but if the current-owner discount still applies I'll definitely keep an eye on it for an upgrade.
Appreciate the well done video and updates. Current Crystal owner, and I love my headset. Although still waiting for my wide lenses…
This. Makes me doubt the 57 ppd lense will ever be released to anything but RUclipsrs like the wide fov for crystal.
Love to be able to afford one of these ! the oled resolutions is the best thing i've ever seens so far :) excited !
Might I recommend not having interchangeable ppd lenses.
It was not a well received feature of the Crystal, and everyone was relieved when it was removed from the Crystal Light.
"everyone" lol no. Interchangeable lenses are why I bought the Crystal, and why I'll buy the Super.
Great delivery with lots of information. Well done!👍
Just reserved the micro OLED
Looks incredible!!!
Some pretty cool stuff to see! Especially the change in form factor. By current gen standards it's still "big" but just eyeballing it the chassis seems to be around averagish in size, maybe a little bigger, from the era of things like the Index, HTC Vives, Reverb G2, etc... Which I think is fine for something that's trying to cram in so much bleeding edge and high tech stuff.
Really looking forward to the FoV improvements and hoping Pimax can deliver on the claims, given some of the numbers I've seen on the XR4 and assume it's using the same panel. Having even around 125~ horizontal with the super high clarity of such a display would be a pretty nice experience. Hoping to have a chance to play around with the headset by the year's end.
My biggest issue with Pimax is that they're working on too many different model VR headsets at the same time instead of pooling their resources to make one, really good VR headset.
This is why I bought a Beyond and haven't even thought about buying a Pimax, because as soon as I buy a Pimax headset, they'd have already announced another new VR headset. Bigscreen on the other hand took their time to make a headset that focuses in on doing a few specific things and doing them really well, instead of trying to fill a spreadsheet with every feature possible.
Got mine booked.. can't wait.😊
i love you keep us informated, close to us, and motivated to provide great vr headsets ! kudos !
Transparency as clear as your headsets. Love it.
I'm hoping that the QLED portion of the Bundle version can be shipped earlier so the Bundle users can start using the QLED, and receive the OLED module sometime later when it's ready. Is this a possible scenario? Keeping fingers crossed for your team!
Well done for reducing the size! 👍👍 When development is finished and production is underway I'd love to see you apply the same smaller size (and great new lenses etc) to a next generation "Light" model (perhaps called the "Light Super"?!)...
Does Pimax Crystal Super support HDR?
are there even any VR games that support HDR?
Thank you for the update. This all looks very good and interesting. Hopefully most of it will work for the planned release.
Fantastic work team. Love the work and cant wait for the next teaser wd Jaap and co!
This looks incredible!
Looking forward to learn more about the oled version, it is the most likely to become my next headset i it lives up to your plans
Looks amazing guys. Excellent work keeping people informed too
Cheers Jaap, looks fantastic!!
Great that you reduce the size of the headset, that will reduce its inertia that is not only proportional to the weight
will be my 1st pimax headset❤
mine too, finally I am gonna change my HTC Vive Pro 2 - there are only problems with them
Dear Pimax! please answer the following question. Since Crystal Super's display specs would need a bandwidth of DisplayPort 2.1 (that RTX5000 cards will most likely have) and since DP is backwards compatible, do you plan to put DP2.1 port on Crystal Super?
This, as these headsets only really make sense with a 5090 / 5080 / 4090. The 4090 will have to use Display stream compression because nvidia :facepalm but for future GPUs DP2.1 surely is a must have.
Yes if this headset does not support DP2.1 then it could be a problem...
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 AMD already support DP2.1....
Launch a product only compatible with a DP1.4a doesn't make sense...and it will give a massive compression well above the 3.1 ratio using by DSC for lower resolution.
As already said above, a DP2.1 controller is backward compatible.
The Super need a controller video which support both 1.4a and 2.1 !(or USB 4.0)
Thing is, even AMD don't support the full DP2.1 bandwidth.
And you're stuck with 1 metre long cables on the *one* monitor that does implement DP2.1 lite.
Granted, DP2.1 with DSC would be even stronger. But then you'd still be stuck with that 1 metre cable.
DSC is just the most elegant way to push higher bandwidth right now, no matter how you cut it.
That might change next year, it might not. DP2.1 adoption has been painfully slow to the point that the 5090 is almost here, we have 360hz monitors, and DP1.4 hasn't been a bottleneck.
You'll know when that is by the existence of a >240hz 4k display.
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 That is why I wrote DP is backwards compatible, so you can use a DP2.1 port with a DP1.4 card...
i dont realy get why you had to make it interchangeable from qled to oled and back... all the expensive parts are in the interchangable-bit anyways, the cost savings are limited to the headstrap and the front-cover... that is if you even find someone that would buy both and switch them regularly, which is a big stretch to begin with. are you being extra complicated for no good reason again?
@tomduke1297 hmm this is true qled alone would be great at 120hz and 3.8k panels
Yeah Pimax tries everything instead of focusing of one good thing! We don't need interchange ability! Better bring the QLED PIMAX with a small for factor and then wait 3-4 years and bring a OLED design!
That is looking really good Pimax! One more thing I would ask is to improve the facial design. I know some people find it very comfortable but most of us have to mod it adding spacers and so on, also the material used maybe is not optimal, so take a look into there to find some improvements if you can. Also, I would advise to have a look into the focal distance of the lenses, because many people got eye strain with the Crystal and it looks like other headsets in the market are using 2 metters focal distance, and yeah, the focus in those are good, so I don't see a reason why shouldn't work also with the Crystal Super.
My Best wishes! Regards.
You guys are amazing! This is the first time I have seen such amount of effort and quality being dedicated to a VR HMD. All of the specifications of the Super Crystal fits exactly my needs of a high end VR HMD (Amazing contrast, Vibrant Colors, Extreme Sharpness and High Resolution). I have never seen such headset accomplishing all of these goals in a single HMD under $2000.
Great work on the updates Pimax! 👏 Keep it up! Definitely hanging out for this Super QLED model to finally replace my 8KX, so long as the horizontal FOV is close to Normal 8KX FOV (130+). Cheers 👍
Any update on 60G WILINK ?
Wait… pancake lenses were mentioned for the OLED displays at 3:40??? I thought it was always intended to use glass aspheric lenses for both display modules? When did this change?
Pimax Frontier said pancake lenses too, most of the marketing out there is for the QLED version, the OLED is still using glass lenses though.
Owning the Pimax crystal the only thing I can add is that the headphones should be able to get closer to the ears. Because I'm sitting in a motion rig that makes noise . So to illuminate that noise the headphones need to be right against my ears. My HTC vivepro2 did a very good job at that. Oh while I'm here.. a better head strap would finish it of...thanks 😊
Can’t wait to buy. Thanks for the update!
RIP Somnium
We hardly knew ye.
Awesome job @pimaxvr keep up the great work!!!
Great to see a new smaller design for housing and bigger lenses. I wonder if this housing could be used for the crystal light, maybe a switch over to this once production of the new housing happens, that would be cool.
thanks for the update. Please keep them coming. And if possible, can we have through the lens videos of top games like DCS? I'm sure flight sim'ers make up a bulk of your customers.
30% reduction in size will be nice to have! Great job dev team! I know myself, and a vast majority of the enthusiast VR community, are ‘Pimax Super’ excited… Joke aside, this is bound to be a huge step up from the already amazing Crystal, Crystal Light, Beyond, VR1 and Aero. Not to mention that price is extremely affordable for the tech…
Just two screens in a box, few cameras and lens...No ram, no chipset....The price could be lower...
@@SETHalpine for current Crystal owners it will be cheaper. $400 cheaper. Besides that, how’s it compared to other VR headsets price point? The XR 4 is three times the price, the VR1 is even more expensive for its cheapest most bare bone model (and it doesn’t have inside out tracking abilities like the Super amongst several other features like eye tracking), buying a Beyond or Aero will require base stations and controllers which would end up being more expensive than this HMD.
Not to mention these panels and optical stack are not cheap. Could be cheaper, maybe, but even MRTV had said in a recent video that at the price point he thinks they’d be losing money. But for a company for VR enthusiasts to survive, the price is way more affordable than it should be. People were assuming it would be well over $3,000 when watching the announcement video before the price was revealed.
If it’s not the price for you, then it’s not the price for you. But for a 50PPD HMD, or even 35PPD, you’ll be spending more money. And in some way more than double.
The Pimax Crystal Super will be the next VR headset I buy.
I booked the dumble a few minutes after the live pimax frontier I can't wait to receive it, it's going to be crazy!
I ordered the QLED/M-OLED combo. Will you be shipping this with only the QLED panels first and then send out the M-OLED when they are done? Or is the entire order held until both panels are ready?
I'm really interested in the Super. I think the most important problem you guys need to focus on is dynamic foveated rendering, so that 57 PPD can be achieved in every game. The foveated rendering has to make a huge difference in FPS. It has to at least double the FPS.
Please don't listen to anyone telling you to focus on QLED only. There are a significant number of us that think the contrast and beautiful colors of OLED craps all over the QLED panels. This is apparent even in your simple through the lense in the video.
Try and make it as small as possible, and it should be a great headset. Although I do think it would be wiser focusing on it being QLED only, like crystal, and work on a smaller OLED headset later.
This would have been smart, however Pimax insist on trying to do everything at once. I have serious concerns about the interchangeable displays and the effect on visual quality. However, if they manage to pull it off and visual quality is not impacted then I will strongly consider buying one.
They did make it 30% smaller.
Maybe as small as possible without sacrificing fidelity. But otherwise, just get a big screen beyond?
I'm honestly really curious where the modular lenses and displays take us. I for one love the fact that the 12k might be able to use display engines from the super as well, for better clarity at a lower fov.
@@giganooz The BSB has low FOV, bad glare and the lenses are not great.
@@somerandomperson8282 I'm pretty sure big fov with great lenses is very hard to combine with small and lightweight. At least for as long as we're using glass aspheric lenses and flat displays.
So all I'm saying is that, if it's one or the other, I want pimax to prioritise their current goals: massive fov with good clarity, eye tracking, and a bright, high contrast HDR display with good resolution. If they have all that in a package that is comfortable enough to wear for 2 hours, which the light already is for sure. Probably more than the Quest 3. THEN they should start thinking about how they can keep all that and make it even more comfortable. Because there's already options for comfortable light weight headsets. Even if they're not the greatest. But pimax is basically on their own with the current goals. I want them to keep pushing the limits. Wouldn't you agree?
I'm truly exited about the Pimax Super. I even reserved the Super bundle version now that it seems that the 12k version won't arrive in the near future. The only thing i regret is that the super won't have the option of a wireless connection with the pc. Its not a huge thing since i am a pc vr gamer, but it would be nice to get rid of the cable. Hopefully the 12k will have that option combined with a better battery life. I love my pimax crystal and i think i will keep it even if i get my hands on the super.
One more thing that could be improved in the Exterior design is the headstrap, the Crystal has a point where it doesn't go any more down your nape, it gets stuck. I think you could increase the avaliable angle of the headstrap to be placed down the nape, so users with bigger heads can place it better.
Please focus on one lens type at a time. Interchangeable lenses Will complicate things for the user. Just like for og crystal it was a bad idea. Pimax please keep improving your quality and user experience rather than investing in new experimental features
Take your time to get it right. I can wait!
They should have standalone since it is lighter. Standalone components should have a wire and can be kept in your pocket to reduce weight.
💪 cant wait to get my Super.
Wait till next Year.
I would request a measurement of FOV of someone using the same measuring app on the crystal super and the crystal, to see the difference between the two. Probably the best way to gauge real world improvement and difference using crystal as direct reference. Looks good
Quick Quick for the Pimax Crystal Super in my hands 😍😍
Thank you so much team Pimax for this news 👍🏻
But a little question if I’ m understand all ? :
-Pimax Crystal Super Q-Led =
Aspheric Lens
-Pimax Crystal Super Oled=
Pancake Lens ?
It’s true ?
Aplushhss 🇫🇷👍🏻
pls go back and focus on FOV,50 PPD aint needed i cant see any pixels on my crystal,but the FOV is abysmal coming from my 8kx,the only reason i use the crystal is the local dimming otherwise id be back to the 8kx because of the more immersive fov
Yes I agree. Something in the middle would be perfect. The normal FOV setting on the 8KX of around 150 is enough.
Seriously!!!! I miss my 8kx the crystal looks nice but man it sucks.
Just like inside out tracking is a total waste of money and time. The horrible controllers again waste of money and time.
Sticking to fundamentals would have been nice instead of trying to build a swissarmy knife where it's crap at everything it tries.
@fiberop635 they should have sold things if you needed them from the get go. I already had base stations and controllers.
A bunch of complainers!!! Not everyone has base stations. I took my crystal on vacation, and all I needed was my pc, and it's more portable and easy to set up and less expensive. Also, it will have a larger FOV. If the 8kx is good enough for yall, then just stick with that. As for the rest of us, we're moving on to better things. Thanks for the innovation, Pimax!!!
@@kangjames2492 complainers? Dude, we have been supporting pimax for years. They should listen to their loyal Pimaxians. The controllers on the crystal are horrible. They feel cheap and the tracking sucks. Lighthouse is so much better. If you are going on vacation take a quest.
Excited for this one.. would love to see through the lens footage of both the oled and qled with local coming dimming side by side of the SAME footage ideally please.. will there be a mixed reality face plate with cameras on the outside for hand tracking etc coming too?
I commend you for pushing PCVR forward. The crystal light is really good but not perfect. The Crystal Super will further improve the design and I am excited to buy one. Will be using my crystal light until then.
The problem is the PPD is too high for gaming. if the Crystal Light had this form factor, with eye tracking, it would be really perfect. I wish Pimax had made the Crystal Light a fully featured headset because the Crystal Super is a couple of years too early in terms of the GPU horsepower they will need to play games.
Can I get ur crystal light when u buy crystal super
@@somerandomperson8282 i wouldn't say that to be honest. The new generation GPU's are right around the corner with multiple sources claiming atleast a 50% performance gain over there current gen counterparts. But only the top GPU which costs as much as the headset would be able to succeed in pushing those pixels out. In my opinion these specs are end-game level territory and the only technical upgrade I can think of is OLED panels with higher refreshrates and moving on from 120-> 200+ same thing as the monitor market moving on from 1080 144hz LCD's to soon even 1440p 480hz QD-OLED panels at a 27" formfactor. After this i see companies lowering their prices and more focussing on immersion technology.
@@somerandomperson8282 I doubt the super will come out for at least a year and we will have the 5090 to pair with it.
@@angrybeaver6667 hmm it doesn't sound like it's a year away. Maybe 6 months?
You mention the qled version will be shipped first what about those of us who have ordered the super bundle?
If the wide-FOV lenses are anything to go by, you'll still be waiting over a year later. I trust these liars about as far as I could throw them.
That's for the progress update!
I legit am looking forward to this
I'm really super hyped for this. Pimax is new to me, I can't really find clear information about whether I also have to buy extra "base stations" or controllers or whether they are already included.
From what I saw, I don't think you need any base stations and the controllers are already included. can anyone confirm this 🙃
Is there an estimate to what the FOV will be on the OLED version?
😊 Great Video will wait and buy 🎉❤
Where is 12k? Its been 3 years.
Who cares about 6 pound headset unless you love sagging face skin sensation
3 years.
12K coming in 2025 seemingly being shown in January!
Are there any plans to have a high FoV lens option for the Crystal Super?
...in order to increase the FoV close to matching the 8KX but with all the improved clarity and enhanced features of eye tracking and auto IPD adjustment.
12K was the high fov but never has been released in case you guys didn't remember
@@borg2dogthey are still working on the 12k. They don't release unfinished products.
I asked this before the video premiere. From the video, it seems there will be 50ppd lenses first and these are higher FoV, but they are developing 57ppd lenses for even greater clarity at the expense of some FoV. I’d be happy with just the 50ppd lenses until the 12K is ready.
They should include 35ppd for bigger fov.
@@Kryojenix 35ppd on Crystal is way sharp enough and now Super with 50ppd is insane so they should rid of 57ppd and give us 35ppd for bigget fov
If the housing is 30% smaller does that mean the light house faceplate for the OG Crystal won’t fit?
Obviously.
Jeez
Fantastic! I love these updates
I’d suggest a leather face mask option and any chance to make the face mask with a more rounded shape than flat. For us US customers it would make a nice change as I’ve had to modify my crystal to give it a great fit. Right out of the box it just didn’t have a great seal and caused some pressure spots.
I stumbled on a review on the Pimax Crystal where someone mentioned a drawback of the local dimming: when he looked at a night sky, it didn't detect the tiny stars shining in the sky, so the local dimming just filtered out everything.
The person didn't mention how much they set the local dimming settings though; maybe very high? If not, I hope the Super won't have that problem.
Looks great, glad you decided to slim down the form factor. One question as a Crystal user, is do you intend to create more robust fully featured OpenXR support that doesn’t rely on Matt’s work to patch the holes? One example would be native support for quad views such as Varjo and Somnium have in their OpenXR runtime.
Will it have an option for mixed reality video passthrough? My main use case would be to see flight simulator controllers and keyboard in VR.
It's going to be compatible with the mixed reality faceplate according to the original announcement in the Pimax Frontier presentation. Not much details are known about the MR faceplate or when it's coming out though. But given the new smaller design of the Crystal Super I'm guessing there's going to be two different plastic plate designs to mount them as the original Crystal was intended to receive it too.
Looking forward to this one :)
I will be waiting on the bundle!
Happy to hear that the FOV will be bigger! Pimax, if that is true I will buy it. Bigger fov is a must have for me
Great update. Poease do keep them coming so that we can gauge the release date 🫶
Is the super still on track for a 2024 release?
How about pass through for the super? I hope the quality of the image, and cameras are at least better than the latest Quest, and definitely better than current Crystal, which the image is really bad, I’m assuming because the cameras were never intended for pass through.
Lighthouse faceplate????
What about it?
@@Kevin15673 does it come with one? It doesn't look like the old crystal one will fit.
What is the bandwidth of the displayport connection on the headset? Dp80? Uhbr40? Displayport 2.0? Displayport 2.1a? The pimax crystal super would pair well with the upcoming Nvidia 50 series Blackwell GPUs. And those are expected to arrive with display port 2.0 at minimum. So I'm curious to see what bandwidth limitations will exist with this kind of setup.