TIMESTAMPS IN THE DESCRIPTION! To fulfill the requests of all my tactician friends, I updated the video, how you can build your own decent Tac Build. There are 5 chapters in it, where I will discuss with you, what options you have to set up yours and give you an insight, why I choose specific stats and how you have to adapt your gameplay ;-)
As usual good stuff and I agree with all of it as an avid tac player. I've been playing around with showstopper lately and the stacks come fast and the stagger is nice. Keep it up dude!
Hay Rod , I found your video months ago on this an it became my favorite build right then! Before classified. Thank you for all the information you give an your input..
Thanks for another well explained video. I'm a full Tac convert since finding you. I'm trying a 5 piece classified with the specialized BP at the moment. I just find the inventive BP too situational for my play style. As in, I keep getting shot. Keep up the good work. :)
thx a lot, really appreciate your feedback and comment. if i where you i would rather go with barretts instead of specialized. you do usually just have about 3k stam and 3k fa which means you get about 11-12k extra skillpower. of course better then nothing but usually you are at about 390-400k and with barretts 10% additional skillpower to this stat ;-)
RODSCHER 80 , Just experimenting ATM. Would the difference between the extra electronic 1272-1401 not make up the 10%? Will do some checking tonight, but will probably end up back with a Barrett's.
Danke, rodscher! Super Arbeit, wie immer! Auch nach fast 2 Jahren (oder wie lange es Division schon gibt) und knapp 1000 Spielstunden lernt man bei dir echt ne Menge. Du lieferst immer intelligenten und informativen Content, große Klasse! Gerade jetzt, wo man nach dem in der Praxis unbrauchbaren 6er Taktiker Bonus nicht so genau weiß wie man sein Taktiker Build nun bauen soll, kommt dein Video genau zur richtigen Zeit! Ein paar Anmerkungen/Fragen hätte ich: 1. Primärwaffenmods: Da die Primärwaffe ja eh hauptsächlich nur zur Aktivierung der Waffentalente und des 4er Taktikerbonus zuständig ist, würde ich neben Stabi/Präzimods ein Magazin mit 11% mehr Schussfrequenz nehmen und auf ein größeres Magazin verzichten. Die "nur" 30 Schuss langen ja für den 4er Bonus und länger kann man meist eh nicht schiessen ohne in Deckung zu gehen, die Zeit kann man dann zum nachladen benutzen. Der 4er Bonus hat dann halt schneller mehr stacks. 2.. Sekundärwaffe: Hier würde ich eine starke 286er Waffe nehmen (mit talentiert und kompetent sowie je nach Vorliebe räuberisch oder entschlossen in freien Slot), da es ja doch immer mal wieder vorkommt das ein oder mehrere Gegner vor einem stehen und alle Skills im Cooldown sind. Die fehlenden Talente zerstörerisch und bösartig für die gelben Endbosse bei "Legendär" könnte man auf die Pistole auslagern. Die ist mit einer blauen Blaupause schnell gemacht, allerdings hat man dann einen Gesamtgearscore in den 240ern und Randoms denken dann man ist ein schwacher Anfänger. 3. Zählen die 23% Rüstungschaden der Sturmgewehre auch bei den Fertigkeiten? 4. Kannst du noch was zu den 450k Softcap Fertigkeitenstärke sagen? Mit vollen 30% 4er Taktikerbonus werden ja weit über 500 K Fertigkeitenstärke angezeigt und auch der höhere Skillschaden sowie die schnellere Abklingzeit wird angezeigt. Deswegen ist mir nicht klar wo/ob da der Cap ist und wie er greift?! Gruß, Thomas
halle thomas, danke dir sehr für deinen kommentar und dein feedback. das weiss ich sehr zu schätzen. sorry für die späte rückmeldung, war grad ziemlich was los in letzter zeit. gerne noch zu deinen fragen: 1. ja, ist durchaus ein interessanter ansatz mit dem magazin und der erhöhten schussfrequenz. mein ansatz wird dann in zukunft vermutlich der sein (sobald ich ich eine big ally mit den richtigen talenten finde) mit dieser die stacks zu bekommen und die gegner besser zu unterdrücken. werde dies aber gerne mal so ausprobieren. ehrlicherweise brauche ich das stacking bei meinen runs eh noch etwas zu wenig. danke also für den tip ;-) 2. das wäre dann eben die big alejandro für mich ;-) und könnte man so machen mit der pistole. du verlierst aber dann leider 24% an gegn. rüstungsschaden welchen du bei der AR hast. wäre für mich ein zu grosser verzicht. und wenn, dann würde ich eine abesägte doppelläufige schrotflinte nehmen. dort hast du auch drei mögliche talente anstelle der pistole mit deren zweien ;-) 3. ja, die max. 24% die du haben kannst bei AR erhöhen auch den damage deiner seeker und deiner sticky. 4. der softcap bei 450k bedeutet nicht, dass du nicht mehr schaden machst mit deinen skills. aber sobald du diesen wert erreicht hast, nimmt der zuwachs an schaden exponentiell ab. kannst dir das in einem diagramm als kurve vorstellen. am anfang und bis 450k ist diese ziemlich steil und flacht dann sehr stark ab. habe kürzlich einen test gemacht und glaube total 750k oder annähern erreicht an skillpower und meine sticky hätte dann "lediglich" gut 1,5 mio damage gemacht. war dies einigermassen nachvollziehbar? lg und einen schönen tag, roger
5 Setup's die super durchdacht und erklärt wurden! Von mir bekommst du 2 Daumen hoch :o) Ich hatte leider nicht soviel Glück beim letzten GE .Hab zwar alle Setteile zusammen aber aus 118 Kisten nur 1 Maske bekommen! Bin also etwas in eingeschränkt bezüglich Set Umgestaltung! Ansonsten ,mach weiter so !
danke dir andreas, das weiss ich sehr zu schätzen. sry lief grad ziemlich viel weshalb ich nicht so fleissig zum beantworten gekommen bin ;-) dann wünsche ich dir viel glück, damit du bald eine bessere maske bekommst und danke dir sehr für dein feedback. lg
RODSCHER 80 Alles gut,wir haben ja alle noch n real life neben the Division! Ich hätte da aber mal ne Frage: Hab n Freund der sich auch n class tac zurecht geschneidert hat und mit weniger skill Power mehr S Schaden aus seiner stiky raus holt als ich. Woran kann das liegen!? Set unterschied Überheilweste Weste / Inventive bagpack bei ihm und ich verwende Barrett und Inventive bagpack! Ich verwende anstatt der class Maske eine normale Taktiker Maske! Alles ohne stecks! Natürlich sind beide sets max out!
Found this really useful for both Tac and Firecrest i personally run with Barretts chest and 5K firearms as i lile to use my LW M4 and a sniper rifle thx for insights
Awesome vid as usual. I have been a skill build player for quite awhile so thanks for pointing out options. GE and RNG didnt think i needed a Tactician backpack, so i have stayed with my 5 piece and Inventive BP. Would like to try out Barrets version better. Thanks for the pointers
Great video and presentation of information as always. As a primary skill build player I love this content. I do hope massive rework the 6 pc tactician slightly, to what, I don’t know but something more functional.
I run; 5 piece classy tactician plus inventive backpack. Mods 205 ELE 4% DTE Sticky Damage. Guns AR74 gear 204 blueprint crafted, DEST/FERO/DETER, then the second is DEST/PRED/TALENT. I only switch to the second gun when inventive loses its buff, to gain predatory and talented while inventive buff is inactive.Your tip on Barrents and seekers first was insightful to me, I feel foolish for not knowing that already! Good one.
if you have 4 pieces of tactician an inventive bp and a random holster would work as well. if you are used to go cover to cover i would choose nimble to get another healing resource on your build. thx mate appreciate it 👍
I have made a standard optimized tac build a 6 piece tac and a 5 piece tac with inventive and a 4 piece tac with inventive and Barret's and the best one is 4 piece classified with Barret's n inventive I also found that if u only have dte on your pads n mask & ferocious weapon talent & skill power electronics mods that it is more powerful than putting purple dte mods on
Interesting vid, as I’ve wanted to find out what I could change on my 5pc build, while I do have 6 A’s people have stated it’s lack luster :P I used to run my classy Tac as a back up healer, but have since moved on from that
I personally use the barrets and inventive. Also I keep predatory on the free slot of one of my guns. Still rips through anything in the game while solo.
RODSCHER 80 the only down side is the DZ, sometimes you get folded and there are times when. I group allows you to be the 5th wheel and and you can clear the loop in dz 9. Either way... I love the build...
Nice build. I chose to go with Dmg 2 Elite mods all around since the softcap on skill power is at 450K. 4% seeker mine mods all around as well. I have 53% Dmg 2 elites and 61% EAD. Still able to one-shot healers. I run a low GS ACR with Predatory, Ferocious, Destructive. I don't fire it. It's my stat stick. Secondary is a sniper with Talented, Competent, Coolheaded. 209% HSD
really good setup as well. depends of course if you run mainly heroic incursions or the new legendary missions. and if you run it solo or in a group. and yes, the softcap is at 450k which doesn't mean you deal not more damage above this level
I think it would be better to have a second weapon MDR (competent, talented),because have very good third talent (damage is increased by 18% against targets with status effects). If you use seeker mine, enemies will be bleeding, so you can finish him faster. MDR is for long distance and have very good damage, and don't need a lot of ammo.
yes, it is a nice weapon as well. because my main source of damage are my skills on this build i do prefer to have the "right" talents unlocked. but of course it is a really good setup as well ;-)
Did my first heroic incursion tonight using your tactician build. This guy called Rodscher 80 joined the team. I awaited the biggest carry of my life .....aaaaaand you left 😂
Sry mate 😂 we can gladly do it once. But you See pretty fast if it can work with a group or not. Especially if you don’t have communication. I didnt had that much time left. Just tried „new“ build. Tactician is great and would work there as well. But there are better setups for this incursion 😉
It was me and my bro and another guy who jumped in...and then you. Hadn't done stolen signal before so need to get the mechanics down. Ran striker on dragons nest after that and finished it..thankfully had a reclaimer on the team. Have a Firecrest build based on your vid too and it's a fun build. Was telling my bro that this is that Rodscher dude so we should be good here...then you jumped off...🤣.
i can remember, yes 😉sry buddy you should have wrote me a message. as i said i am up to help you once if we have a little more time. on this one (especially for this room) at least one final measure is great to have. usually the grenades are the main problem.
Thanks for the video. I'm not following the logic with Damage to Elites discussion at 19:05. If one's skill power is over 450K and at this point (for instance, your skill power is showing 532K here) why use skill power mods over Electronic Damage to Elites mods? I realize skill power is lower with no stacks but if one is using stacks to keep it around/over 450K, skill power mods are no where near as helpful as Damage to Elites. I've tested this and as far as I can tell Damage to Elites mods (I use 206 Electronics with 4% Damage to Elites on all possible slots) are much better when one is able to maintain around/over 450K skill power.
you are right, dte mods are really strong. there are many factors counting into it. it depends how many stacks you have equal over the mission. idt depends what kind a missions you usually play. most legendary so far have not all elite npc, etc. etc. in the end you will not feel a huge difference. but if you have such good dte mods with all 4% then yes, they could be better all in all as long as you have determined on your gun.
Thank you so much for your classified tactician build video. This was much anticipated! I can trust you will deliver the best build after your testing. So thanks for your hard work and sharing the info with us. Much appreciated! By the way, will you still be using your old tactician with Barrett’s & inventive plus 4 classified pieces, or is this 5 piece with Barrett’s a much better build? Which do you prefer? Also don’t be jealous but I have a Big Ally with Talented & Competent rolled :) I will try this to build stacks
thx mate, do really appreciate your feedback and comment ;-) you will find the answer in the video, which setup i do prefer ;-) but of course here and just for you. my preferred version is 5 piece tac with barretts ;-)
👍 look forward to your ideas for the other new gear sets, if you decide to cover them. I know firecrest & Alphabridge is causing lots of discussions now
They should make the 6 piece tactician so that you get health instead of 30 more stacks ! Because you invest all in electronics so health would be better . OR give more of that skill you use example: double the amount of seeker mines or give 2 turrets .
Run 5 piece Tact with the backpack that gives 5% healing from skills throw out the pulse turret n have fun if u take damage just run around the turret n watch ur health regen or throw out seeker mines
Relentless is the best pack in the game. Teamed with barrets my tac build is doing 387k and I run with an lvoac and mp5 both with competent talented and determined
OMG: I always use the sticky first and then the seeker mines! What a mistake!! 😲 Many details here: thanks. I didn’t get a mask with damage to Elites during the GE: I will have to get one maybe in Resistance! See you ✌🏻👊🏻
thx ;-) i am working actually on a firecrest build / gameplay video. will be out soon. probably this week. yes and no it is pretty nice in pve but in pvp because of the modifier not as strong anymore (unfortunately).
#tacticanincharge 😂 Hallo Rodger... Wie immer ein brillantes Video. Was Skillbuilds betrifft,hast du bei weitem den BESTEN Content. Nochmal zu den DTE Mods. Normal sollten sie gegen gelbe Mobs doch besser sein. Oder hebt es sich einfach auf weil meine sticky mit lila Mods einfach von vornherein schlechter ist? Beste Grüße
danke dir erol, das weiss ich sehr zu schätzen. ich brauch ja das set vor allem für die legendären missionen und da sind nicht nur elite npc anzutreffen. dies ist ein grund. aber auch, weil die mods ja einen niedrigeren wert haben (elektronik) und zudem nicht skill power sind. so verlierst du am ende schon eine ganze menge an fertigkeitenstärke. nicht zu vergessen, mit einer niedrigeren fertigkeitenstärke sind ja auch die cooldowns länger. bei meinem test den ich einmal gemacht habe, war der schaden ziemlich identisch. deshalb finde ich diese nicht wirklich nützlich dafür. verwende die aber ganz gerne z.b. bei meinem striker build ;-)
RODSCHER 80 ja beim Stürmer hab ich sie auch drauf. Wenn du mal lachen willst und im Team mit Heiler spielst,Roll deinen pve Stürmer auf 9k SW hoch...purer Spass...und mit räuberisch/zerstörerisch/entschlossen biste auch ohne den heilbonus gesund. Beste Grüße und weiter so.
i am not really a huge fan of this talent (explained it in the previous video but not in this one) for me there are better alternatives. just have in mind that it is not a 100% chance and if you kill an npc with the sticky he doesn't bleed anymore ;-) and if you can't kill him, the damage on your sticky is probably not high enough. with the seekers you anyway should hit everyone and force him to bleed. and if not, they are usually too far away to proc shrapnell as well.
wie du evtl. am kurzen clip am anfang gesehen hast ja ;-) aber nur die damage variante mit sticky. ist nicht ganz so easy aber teilweise kriegste ein paar kills damit. gibt ja noch die puls variante wo du das set nutzen kannst um den damage deiner mates zu pushen ;-)
because i use a lower gearscore weapon (204) on this build. best way to get one with the right talents is to craft them by yourself. and or buy the blueprints every week.
Hi . I just turned on division today to a 3.2GB download and guess what they have done. They removed talented been proced from seekers and sticky and predatory been proced from a turret. I know this because I was doing solo Warren gate last night and they were working. Why do they keep nerfing tactician ?
nope they don't this has not worked before either ;-) talented just procs if you kill someone with your turret or with your weapon. but yes, tactcians are not the most beloved gearsets in the game.
hi and nice explanation/ builds, have a question idk if is because of maybe the vertion im playing on or maybe is that im not lucky getting good rolls on my weapons, so my question is how you manage to get the three talents on the same weapon if any time i craft a weapon i get 3 ramdon talent (the first 2 of then require xxx of firearms, and stamina to unluck) and the 3dr you cain of get it for free... so how you manage to get this three talent on the same weapon if they required a much highter Fi../Sta.. hope to hear from you bye..
thx buddy for the message. sorry for the late answer. was really busy. the "secret" is, that this is a low gear score (204) weapon so you do have the lower requirements. best way is to craft one by yourself and or buy a blueprint for it 👍
First thanks for the videos. I have 448k Electronics and i seem to be getting the same damage with or without 30 stack (still only 137k seeker dmg per tick) .. i cant really see any difference. So is the four piece tactician bounus worthless and would i be better making a ninja hybrid instead?
Erm, i'm not sure but dosn't all Skillpower and DMG buffs get snapshotted the moment you activate a skill? If yes, then in this case its wrong to drop your seeker before your Stickie explosion goes off. The 20% dmg buff demo expert is stronger then the missing 30k Skillpower from barrets chest. and as a follow up question, does the LMG out of Cover dmg bonus applie to skills?
nope this doesn't matter. you can even change the weapon (to the weapon with more damage) after the skill is deployed. but otherwise of course you would be right. and no, the damage from lmg's don't increase the damage of your skills.
To be fair getting stacks on legendary solo is very hard so I switch between my turret and sticky a lot because the turret makes my seekers stronger. Also I don't understand why u use a lower tier weapon when you can get all those weapon talents in top tier
Hey, if you optimize a 204 blueprint gun to get up to 24% EAD will it raise the gear score enough to increase the requirements on the talents? I have been afraid to optimize my 23% EAD gun.
Thank you for the video. 1 question why do you use over 450.000 skill power since the damage with 550.000 skill power is the same as using 450.000 skill power. I have 455.000 and my damage for sticky and seeker mine is the same as you have in the video with that 530.000 What do you think about this?
yes and no. the damage is not the same. it is a little higher. but yes, you are right. the soft cap is at 450k actually the build is (without stacks) at 430k skillpower ;-)
I wanted your opinion that should they up the skill power soft cap from 450K since our damage could be so much better if they raised it even to 500K With 455K SP my sticky dmg is 1.38 million and with 550K SP damage only goes to 1.39 million so the difference is so little :)
I'm trying to build a good solo Tactician build, I understand skill haste, but is it skill power that makes sticky bombs & mines hit harder or the electronics in general? trying to get a one hit sticky bomb / boss killer in challenging or legendary. I can kills bosses in open world & hard missions but just can get it done in a challenging / legendary mission yet.
it is anyway really hard to one shot bosses in challenging and or legendary missions. there has to fit so many things together (without any modifier). a couple things you should have in mind are: - soft cap is at 450k after you reach this amount there could be some other stats become more useful (e.g. ead) - for the hardest hitting sticky you need sticky damage mods (4%) and the right talents on your weapon as well as the right abilities (talents) and you need to hit more then one at the same time
I tried a build with 6pc Tactician a few weeks ago & wasn't very impressed with the out come. then tried an Inventive build 2 days ago skill power is at 435k, this morning I completed Amherst Apartment & Warren gate on legendary solo and wasn't using firearm stacks, I only used the rifle for the talents, Now I'm impressed. thanks for the videos and help.
6 pc skills sets this GE are beyond sad. 4 pc 1.6 builds still better in most cases. I don't understand how someone at massive thought this is how you play Tactician. 5 minutes on google or RUclips will tell you otherwise. Trying to get 60 stacks while running solo with 2900 stam is a good way to get melted. For Firecrest I am getting better results with 2FC, 2 tac, Barrett's and ninja at 370 SP than the 330 SP with the FC 6 pc... If you don't like setting yourself on fire with the 6 pc explosions I recommend the build.
can understand you fully. was a bit disappointed too. the best thing about it is, that you get the higher stats from the classified gear pieces. not less not more ;-)
Yes just some extra skill power nothing special tho ): Considering how powerful other gear set's are like striker/pred and nomad the tac classified really sucks.
Agree with that. I've gone 5 piece. With incentive I think. 15% more skill power at full health. If it doesn't feel as powerful I'll go back 4 piece with barretts and incentive. Great for anti social soloing
you should find the explanation in the video ;-) you need the mods as well and you need inventive and barrets to reach the highest amount of skillpower.
nice Build, thanks for the vid... but why don't u run with lower Gearscore Weapons, so you can activate all those Talents without " wasting " anything into stamina or firearms...because the Skills will do most of the Work anyways... ,-)
thx buddy, i am using lower gearscore weapons. i do have nothing specked into FA or STAM ;-) i have just higher stats because of the classified version and because i maxed out my weapons on the optimization station ;-)
a gamplay in dz or ug or even on a legendary mission would be good rather whole video explaining might be boring or some might no believe sharing my opinion dont mind
Appreciate your guide, but 6pc Tac isn‘t worth the effort. 4pc Tac + Barrets Chest + Inventive Backpack is way stronger. The best Tactician Build in my opinion
First thanks for the videos. I have 448k Electronics and i seem to be getting the same damage with or without 30 stack (still only 137k seeker dmg per tick) .. i cant really see any difference. So is the four piece tactician bounus worthless and would i be better making a ninja hybrid instead?
hard to give an answer if i don't see your screen. i would just go to the shooting range in the BoO and do the test there. check the stats on your skills with and without stacks. it should def. be higher with 30 stacks ;-)
what i mean is with 5 piece tac i have 422k Skill power/9,870 ele and 452k with inventive, however wether i use seekers at 422k skillpower vs 550k+ it make no/negligible difference. Thus i was wondering, seems the 30 stacks from 4 piece tac don't do anything whether it would be best to make a hybrid instead of havinf wasted set bonuses? my gear isnt fully optimized yet but all pieces have same stats as yours except barrets which has HoK instead of skill haste untill i cann get a better one to drop.
just have in mind, that the soft cap is at 450k so after this you do not benefit from more damage as before ;-) i did once a reddit post about this topic where you can find the stats ;-)
Ah ok, thanks. so if you use inventive there is no point having Death by proxy, seems i wasn't noticing negligible difference with damage i go with police up .. so i get always replenished ammo (though it dosen't refill grenades unfortunately). i'm going to tey your D3 build next, looks interesting XD
TIMESTAMPS IN THE DESCRIPTION!
To fulfill the requests of all my tactician friends, I updated the video, how you can build your own decent Tac Build. There are 5 chapters in it, where I will discuss with you, what options you have to set up yours and give you an insight, why I choose specific stats and how you have to adapt your gameplay ;-)
I have a question why is my tact-classified gear maroon instead of blue?
probably because you don't have the classified version ;-) you always have a different colour on the classy and the "normal" version
Thank you for this in depth video. Finally found a knowledgeable skill build user, really appreciate it. Keep up the good work.
thx buddy, do really appreciate your feedback and comment ;-)
As usual good stuff and I agree with all of it as an avid tac player. I've been playing around with showstopper lately and the stacks come fast and the stagger is nice. Keep it up dude!
thx buddy, appreciate it ;-) yes, the showstopper is awesome to get the stacks really fast only downsight is you can't unlock that many talents on it.
Hay Rod , I found your video months ago on this an it became my favorite build right then! Before classified. Thank you for all the information you give an your input..
very welcome my friend ;-) happy farming with this "new" build
Fantastic, yet again. I now have this ‘exact’ build with a Big Alejandro and the talents you advised - let’s kick some digital butts! 👍🏼
thx mate, really appreciate it 👍hope you enjoy the build as well. wish you some nice moments kicking some digital butts ;-)
Thanks for another well explained video. I'm a full Tac convert since finding you. I'm trying a 5 piece classified with the specialized BP at the moment. I just find the inventive BP too situational for my play style. As in, I keep getting shot.
Keep up the good work. :)
thx a lot, really appreciate your feedback and comment. if i where you i would rather go with barretts instead of specialized. you do usually just have about 3k stam and 3k fa which means you get about 11-12k extra skillpower. of course better then nothing but usually you are at about 390-400k and with barretts 10% additional skillpower to this stat ;-)
RODSCHER 80 , Just experimenting ATM. Would the difference between the extra electronic 1272-1401 not make up the 10%? Will do some checking tonight, but will probably end up back with a Barrett's.
Danke, rodscher! Super Arbeit, wie immer! Auch nach fast 2 Jahren (oder wie lange es Division schon gibt) und knapp 1000 Spielstunden lernt man bei dir echt ne Menge. Du lieferst immer intelligenten und informativen Content, große Klasse! Gerade jetzt, wo man nach dem in der Praxis unbrauchbaren 6er Taktiker Bonus nicht so genau weiß wie man sein Taktiker Build nun bauen soll, kommt dein Video genau zur richtigen Zeit! Ein paar Anmerkungen/Fragen hätte ich:
1. Primärwaffenmods: Da die Primärwaffe ja eh hauptsächlich nur zur Aktivierung der Waffentalente und des 4er Taktikerbonus zuständig ist, würde ich neben Stabi/Präzimods ein Magazin mit 11% mehr Schussfrequenz nehmen und auf ein größeres Magazin verzichten. Die "nur" 30 Schuss langen ja für den 4er Bonus und länger kann man meist eh nicht schiessen ohne in Deckung zu gehen, die Zeit kann man dann zum nachladen benutzen. Der 4er Bonus hat dann halt schneller mehr stacks.
2.. Sekundärwaffe: Hier würde ich eine starke 286er Waffe nehmen (mit talentiert und kompetent sowie je nach Vorliebe räuberisch oder entschlossen in freien Slot), da es ja doch immer mal wieder vorkommt das ein oder mehrere Gegner vor einem stehen und alle Skills im Cooldown sind. Die fehlenden Talente zerstörerisch und bösartig für die gelben Endbosse bei "Legendär" könnte man auf die Pistole auslagern. Die ist mit einer blauen Blaupause schnell gemacht, allerdings hat man dann einen Gesamtgearscore in den 240ern und Randoms denken dann man ist ein schwacher Anfänger.
3. Zählen die 23% Rüstungschaden der Sturmgewehre auch bei den Fertigkeiten?
4. Kannst du noch was zu den 450k Softcap Fertigkeitenstärke sagen? Mit vollen 30% 4er Taktikerbonus werden ja weit über 500 K Fertigkeitenstärke angezeigt und auch der höhere Skillschaden sowie die schnellere Abklingzeit wird angezeigt. Deswegen ist mir nicht klar wo/ob da der Cap ist und wie er greift?!
Gruß, Thomas
halle thomas, danke dir sehr für deinen kommentar und dein feedback. das weiss ich sehr zu schätzen. sorry für die späte rückmeldung, war grad ziemlich was los in letzter zeit. gerne noch zu deinen fragen:
1. ja, ist durchaus ein interessanter ansatz mit dem magazin und der erhöhten schussfrequenz. mein ansatz wird dann in zukunft vermutlich der sein (sobald ich ich eine big ally mit den richtigen talenten finde) mit dieser die stacks zu bekommen und die gegner besser zu unterdrücken. werde dies aber gerne mal so ausprobieren. ehrlicherweise brauche ich das stacking bei meinen runs eh noch etwas zu wenig. danke also für den tip ;-)
2. das wäre dann eben die big alejandro für mich ;-) und könnte man so machen mit der pistole. du verlierst aber dann leider 24% an gegn. rüstungsschaden welchen du bei der AR hast. wäre für mich ein zu grosser verzicht. und wenn, dann würde ich eine abesägte doppelläufige schrotflinte nehmen. dort hast du auch drei mögliche talente anstelle der pistole mit deren zweien ;-)
3. ja, die max. 24% die du haben kannst bei AR erhöhen auch den damage deiner seeker und deiner sticky.
4. der softcap bei 450k bedeutet nicht, dass du nicht mehr schaden machst mit deinen skills. aber sobald du diesen wert erreicht hast, nimmt der zuwachs an schaden exponentiell ab. kannst dir das in einem diagramm als kurve vorstellen. am anfang und bis 450k ist diese ziemlich steil und flacht dann sehr stark ab. habe kürzlich einen test gemacht und glaube total 750k oder annähern erreicht an skillpower und meine sticky hätte dann "lediglich" gut 1,5 mio damage gemacht. war dies einigermassen nachvollziehbar?
lg und einen schönen tag, roger
5 Setup's die super durchdacht und erklärt wurden! Von mir bekommst du 2 Daumen hoch :o)
Ich hatte leider nicht soviel Glück beim letzten GE .Hab zwar alle Setteile zusammen aber aus 118 Kisten nur 1 Maske bekommen!
Bin also etwas in eingeschränkt bezüglich Set Umgestaltung!
Ansonsten ,mach weiter so !
danke dir andreas, das weiss ich sehr zu schätzen. sry lief grad ziemlich viel weshalb ich nicht so fleissig zum beantworten gekommen bin ;-) dann wünsche ich dir viel glück, damit du bald eine bessere maske bekommst und danke dir sehr für dein feedback. lg
RODSCHER 80
Alles gut,wir haben ja alle noch n real life neben the Division!
Ich hätte da aber mal ne Frage:
Hab n Freund der sich auch n class tac zurecht geschneidert hat und mit weniger skill Power mehr S Schaden aus seiner stiky raus holt als ich.
Woran kann das liegen!? Set unterschied Überheilweste Weste / Inventive bagpack bei ihm und ich verwende Barrett und Inventive bagpack!
Ich verwende anstatt der class Maske eine normale Taktiker Maske!
Alles ohne stecks!
Natürlich sind beide sets max out!
Found this really useful for both Tac and Firecrest i personally run with Barretts chest and 5K firearms as i lile to use my LW M4 and a sniper rifle thx for insights
Awesome vid as usual. I have been a skill build player for quite awhile so thanks for pointing out options. GE and RNG didnt think i needed a Tactician backpack, so i have stayed with my 5 piece and Inventive BP. Would like to try out Barrets version better. Thanks for the pointers
thx buddy, do really appreciate it. do not bother too much. it is an awesome set with inventive as well and the skillpower is even higher ;-)
Good video RODSCHER 80. You were concise and conclusive in your presentation. You're the best bro.
thx buddy, do really appreciate it ;-)
Great video and presentation of information as always. As a primary skill build player I love this content. I do hope massive rework the 6 pc tactician slightly, to what, I don’t know but something more functional.
i hope they rework it not just slightly ;-) glad to hear you like the content ;-)
I run; 5 piece classy tactician plus inventive backpack. Mods 205 ELE 4% DTE Sticky Damage. Guns AR74 gear 204 blueprint crafted, DEST/FERO/DETER, then the second is DEST/PRED/TALENT. I only switch to the second gun when inventive loses its buff, to gain predatory and talented while inventive buff is inactive.Your tip on Barrents and seekers first was insightful to me, I feel foolish for not knowing that already! Good one.
thx buddy, really nice setup as well yes ;-)
I can hear you now - brilliant! Thanks for the great vid too :)
thx buddy, appreciate it ;-)
love your build. however i dont yet have the clasified holster yet. but do use inventive bacpack.
if you have 4 pieces of tactician an inventive bp and a random holster would work as well. if you are used to go cover to cover i would choose nimble to get another healing resource on your build. thx mate appreciate it 👍
I have made a standard optimized tac build a 6 piece tac and a 5 piece tac with inventive and a 4 piece tac with inventive and Barret's and the best one is 4 piece classified with Barret's n inventive I also found that if u only have dte on your pads n mask & ferocious weapon talent & skill power electronics mods that it is more powerful than putting purple dte mods on
yes, you are right with what you say. and 4 pc with barretts and inventive works really good as well ;-)
Great video, I'm new to the tact build so I found this very helpful 👍😁
Thx a lot. Glad to hear that this was helpful 😉
Interesting vid, as I’ve wanted to find out what I could change on my 5pc build, while I do have 6 A’s people have stated it’s lack luster :P I used to run my classy Tac as a back up healer, but have since moved on from that
Always follow and line your videos. Thanks for the tips.
very welcome ;-)
I personally use the barrets and inventive. Also I keep predatory on the free slot of one of my guns. Still rips through anything in the game while solo.
it is still a really viable setup, yes ;-)
RODSCHER 80 the only down side is the DZ, sometimes you get folded and there are times when. I group allows you to be the 5th wheel and and you can clear the loop in dz 9. Either way... I love the build...
i would recommend using the nomad skill build for the dz ;-) you will have much more survivability and almost the same amount of damage ;-)
RODSCHER 80 I run predatory on one of my weapons... it helps a lot. Killing enemies in a group boosts my health up in no time. So many ways to build!
For DZ I always bring out Striker if I want to farm landmarks or Pred Mark if I want to farm DivTech and be a douche and PvP people around.
Nice build. I chose to go with Dmg 2 Elite mods all around since the softcap on skill power is at 450K. 4% seeker mine mods all around as well. I have 53% Dmg 2 elites and 61% EAD. Still able to one-shot healers. I run a low GS ACR with Predatory, Ferocious, Destructive. I don't fire it. It's my stat stick. Secondary is a sniper with Talented, Competent, Coolheaded. 209% HSD
really good setup as well. depends of course if you run mainly heroic incursions or the new legendary missions. and if you run it solo or in a group. and yes, the softcap is at 450k which doesn't mean you deal not more damage above this level
I've seen people use tactician for maximum crit for pulse and it's most definitely OP if your team are running striker
I do this quite often but usually I use reclaimed and a strong pulse 👍🏼
Nice tip on the Barrett's vest cooldown, Haha never though of that.
just a little tip ;-)
Awesome video. Thanks
welcome ;-)
My 4 piece classified with barrets and relentless pack is doing 387k electronics and 50% skill haste.
Die Frau hat mir keine Zeit gelassen, aber das Video passt jetzt genau :)
nice ;-)
I think it would be better to have a second weapon MDR (competent, talented),because have very good third talent (damage is increased by 18% against targets with status effects). If you use seeker mine, enemies will be bleeding, so you can finish him faster. MDR is for long distance and have very good damage, and don't need a lot of ammo.
yes, it is a nice weapon as well. because my main source of damage are my skills on this build i do prefer to have the "right" talents unlocked. but of course it is a really good setup as well ;-)
Nice!! I’m sharing this one...
thx buddy, really appreciate it ;-)
Did my first heroic incursion tonight using your tactician build. This guy called Rodscher 80 joined the team. I awaited the biggest carry of my life .....aaaaaand you left 😂
Sry mate 😂 we can gladly do it once. But you See pretty fast if it can work with a group or not. Especially if you don’t have communication. I didnt had that much time left. Just tried „new“ build. Tactician is great and would work there as well. But there are better setups for this incursion 😉
Was it your team or did you join solo as well?
It was me and my bro and another guy who jumped in...and then you. Hadn't done stolen signal before so need to get the mechanics down. Ran striker on dragons nest after that and finished it..thankfully had a reclaimer on the team. Have a Firecrest build based on your vid too and it's a fun build. Was telling my bro that this is that Rodscher dude so we should be good here...then you jumped off...🤣.
i can remember, yes 😉sry buddy you should have wrote me a message. as i said i am up to help you once if we have a little more time. on this one (especially for this room) at least one final measure is great to have. usually the grenades are the main problem.
Thanks for the video. I'm not following the logic with Damage to Elites discussion at 19:05. If one's skill power is over 450K and at this point (for instance, your skill power is showing 532K here) why use skill power mods over Electronic Damage to Elites mods? I realize skill power is lower with no stacks but if one is using stacks to keep it around/over 450K, skill power mods are no where near as helpful as Damage to Elites. I've tested this and as far as I can tell Damage to Elites mods (I use 206 Electronics with 4% Damage to Elites on all possible slots) are much better when one is able to maintain around/over 450K skill power.
you are right, dte mods are really strong. there are many factors counting into it. it depends how many stacks you have equal over the mission. idt depends what kind a missions you usually play. most legendary so far have not all elite npc, etc. etc. in the end you will not feel a huge difference. but if you have such good dte mods with all 4% then yes, they could be better all in all as long as you have determined on your gun.
Thank you so much for your classified tactician build video. This was much anticipated! I can trust you will deliver the best build after your testing. So thanks for your hard work and sharing the info with us. Much appreciated!
By the way, will you still be using your old tactician with Barrett’s & inventive plus 4 classified pieces, or is this 5 piece with Barrett’s a much better build? Which do you prefer?
Also don’t be jealous but I have a Big Ally with Talented & Competent rolled :) I will try this to build stacks
thx mate, do really appreciate your feedback and comment ;-) you will find the answer in the video, which setup i do prefer ;-) but of course here and just for you. my preferred version is 5 piece tac with barretts ;-)
👍 look forward to your ideas for the other new gear sets, if you decide to cover them. I know firecrest & Alphabridge is causing lots of discussions now
i will do them as well ;-)
I have the 5 pices with the berrets chest but i like the 6 piece nomad with skills hase mods. . With the talents on my guns work well
yes, skillnomad is still awesome ;-)
They should make the 6 piece tactician so that you get health instead of 30 more stacks ! Because you invest all in electronics so health would be better . OR give more of that skill you use example: double the amount of seeker mines or give 2 turrets .
really good ideas, yes ;-)
Run 5 piece Tact with the backpack that gives 5% healing from skills throw out the pulse turret n have fun if u take damage just run around the turret n watch ur health regen or throw out seeker mines
thats fun too, yes. i use this setup if i clear conta events in the DZ ;-)
Starts at 3:30 somewhere.
5 piece classy with relentless bagpack works like a charm for me
thats a really nice combination as well. i do like it a lot to clear conta events with this bp ;-)
Relentless is the best pack in the game. Teamed with barrets my tac build is doing 387k and I run with an lvoac and mp5 both with competent talented and determined
OMG: I always use the sticky first and then the seeker mines! What a mistake!! 😲
Many details here: thanks. I didn’t get a mask with damage to Elites during the GE: I will have to get one maybe in Resistance! See you ✌🏻👊🏻
it is not a huge mistake you did ;-) i will let you know if i find a tac mask for you 👍 see you 🤘
Good info
thx ;-)
i like this. did you make a firecrest build and do you think it any good?
thx ;-) i am working actually on a firecrest build / gameplay video. will be out soon. probably this week. yes and no it is pretty nice in pve but in pvp because of the modifier not as strong anymore (unfortunately).
#tacticanincharge 😂
Hallo Rodger...
Wie immer ein brillantes Video. Was Skillbuilds betrifft,hast du bei weitem den BESTEN Content. Nochmal zu den DTE Mods. Normal sollten sie gegen gelbe Mobs doch besser sein. Oder hebt es sich einfach auf weil meine sticky mit lila Mods einfach von vornherein schlechter ist? Beste Grüße
danke dir erol, das weiss ich sehr zu schätzen. ich brauch ja das set vor allem für die legendären missionen und da sind nicht nur elite npc anzutreffen. dies ist ein grund. aber auch, weil die mods ja einen niedrigeren wert haben (elektronik) und zudem nicht skill power sind. so verlierst du am ende schon eine ganze menge an fertigkeitenstärke. nicht zu vergessen, mit einer niedrigeren fertigkeitenstärke sind ja auch die cooldowns länger. bei meinem test den ich einmal gemacht habe, war der schaden ziemlich identisch. deshalb finde ich diese nicht wirklich nützlich dafür. verwende die aber ganz gerne z.b. bei meinem striker build ;-)
RODSCHER 80 ja beim Stürmer hab ich sie auch drauf. Wenn du mal lachen willst und im Team mit Heiler spielst,Roll deinen pve Stürmer auf 9k SW hoch...purer Spass...und mit räuberisch/zerstörerisch/entschlossen biste auch ohne den heilbonus gesund.
Beste Grüße und weiter so.
Thanks!
welcome ;)
Is it true that enemy armor damage increase the dmg when hitting a target with sticky bomb?
Yes. It is true 👍🏼 sry for the late response. Was busy at work.
What is your opinion on using the shrapnel talent? I find it pretty good with all the bleed damage being applied.
i am not really a huge fan of this talent (explained it in the previous video but not in this one) for me there are better alternatives. just have in mind that it is not a 100% chance and if you kill an npc with the sticky he doesn't bleed anymore ;-) and if you can't kill him, the damage on your sticky is probably not high enough. with the seekers you anyway should hit everyone and force him to bleed. and if not, they are usually too far away to proc shrapnell as well.
Colin, I'm with you on this. Shrapnel is a must talent on my Tactician builds.
Nice Build Rodscher 👌🏽.
Hast du das Set auch schon im PvP getestet?
wie du evtl. am kurzen clip am anfang gesehen hast ja ;-) aber nur die damage variante mit sticky. ist nicht ganz so easy aber teilweise kriegste ein paar kills damit. gibt ja noch die puls variante wo du das set nutzen kannst um den damage deiner mates zu pushen ;-)
Hey great vid, one question, how is your firearms requirement on talent 'Determined' so low?(2498) mine is 3832.
because i use a lower gearscore weapon (204) on this build. best way to get one with the right talents is to craft them by yourself. and or buy the blueprints every week.
RODSCHER 80 Brilliant, Thanks for replying mate appreciate that.
welcome ;-)
why the determined talent request 3832fa in my game instead of 2490 like in the video ?
because you do have probably a high gear score weapon (256) and not a lower one (204) like i do have ;-)
thanks a lot, i'm going to watch out a lot more carefully these low gear score blueprints !
Hi . I just turned on division today to a 3.2GB download and guess what they have done. They removed talented been proced from seekers and sticky and predatory been proced from a turret. I know this because I was doing solo Warren gate last night and they were working. Why do they keep nerfing tactician ?
nope they don't this has not worked before either ;-) talented just procs if you kill someone with your turret or with your weapon. but yes, tactcians are not the most beloved gearsets in the game.
hi and nice explanation/ builds, have a question idk if is because of maybe the vertion im playing on or maybe is that im not lucky getting good rolls on my weapons, so my question is how you manage to get the three talents on the same weapon if any time i craft a weapon i get 3 ramdon talent (the first 2 of then require xxx of firearms, and stamina to unluck) and the 3dr you cain of get it for free... so how you manage to get this three talent on the same weapon if they required a much highter Fi../Sta..
hope to hear from you bye..
thx buddy for the message. sorry for the late answer. was really busy. the "secret" is, that this is a low gear score (204) weapon so you do have the lower requirements. best way is to craft one by yourself and or buy a blueprint for it 👍
does talented not proc unless u kill with the gun and not by skill?
it procs with weapon or turret kills
thanks
Is the destructive talent requirements higher on exotics?
should not no. if the guns have the same gearscore ;-)
First thanks for the videos.
I have 448k Electronics and i seem to be getting the same damage with or without 30 stack (still only 137k seeker dmg per tick) .. i cant really see any difference. So is the four piece tactician bounus worthless and would i be better making a ninja hybrid instead?
Erm, i'm not sure but dosn't all Skillpower and DMG buffs get snapshotted the moment you activate a skill? If yes, then in this case its wrong to drop your seeker before your Stickie explosion goes off. The 20% dmg buff demo expert is stronger then the missing 30k Skillpower from barrets chest.
and as a follow up question, does the LMG out of Cover dmg bonus applie to skills?
nope this doesn't matter. you can even change the weapon (to the weapon with more damage) after the skill is deployed. but otherwise of course you would be right. and no, the damage from lmg's don't increase the damage of your skills.
What is your total DTE+EAD ?
DTE depends on the weapon on 28 or 38% and EAD should be around 60%
Still seem to be ~300 electronics short of hitting over 10k. At 9,764 Electronics I have 398 Skill Power with Barrets Chest setup.
Where did 10к kills with a shotgun do?
To be fair getting stacks on legendary solo is very hard so I switch between my turret and sticky a lot because the turret makes my seekers stronger. Also I don't understand why u use a lower tier weapon when you can get all those weapon talents in top tier
with this setup you cant unlock the weapon talents without having lower gearscore weapons ;-)
RODSCHER 80 I see your point. Very good idea
Hey, if you optimize a 204 blueprint gun to get up to 24% EAD will it raise the gear score enough to increase the requirements on the talents? I have been afraid to optimize my 23% EAD gun.
the requirements stay the same although you max out your 204 gearscore weapon 👍
Thank you for the video. 1 question why do you use over 450.000 skill power since the damage with 550.000 skill power is the same as using 450.000 skill power. I have 455.000 and my damage for sticky and seeker mine is the same as you have in the video with that 530.000 What do you think about this?
yes and no. the damage is not the same. it is a little higher. but yes, you are right. the soft cap is at 450k actually the build is (without stacks) at 430k skillpower ;-)
I wanted your opinion that should they up the skill power soft cap from 450K since our damage could be so much better if they raised it even to 500K With 455K SP my sticky dmg is 1.38 million and with 550K SP damage only goes to 1.39 million so the difference is so little :)
My fastest Warrengate run was with the Ambush modifier 15 minutes. It was so much fun to play with the modifier :):)
yes, they should increase the cap to 500k imo ;)
gg thats a good time as well. yes, it was ;-)
I'm trying to build a good solo Tactician build, I understand skill haste, but is it skill power that makes sticky bombs & mines hit harder or the electronics in general? trying to get a one hit sticky bomb / boss killer in challenging or legendary. I can kills bosses in open world & hard missions but just can get it done in a challenging / legendary mission yet.
it is anyway really hard to one shot bosses in challenging and or legendary missions. there has to fit so many things together (without any modifier). a couple things you should have in mind are:
- soft cap is at 450k after you reach this amount there could be some other stats become more useful (e.g. ead)
- for the hardest hitting sticky you need sticky damage mods (4%) and the right talents on your weapon as well as the right abilities (talents) and you need to hit more then one at the same time
if I build this set with 5 pieces which is more beneficial using Inventive backpack or Barrett's vest for what I'm trying to accomplish?
i would say inventive is better ;-)
I tried a build with 6pc Tactician a few weeks ago & wasn't very impressed with the out come. then tried an Inventive build 2 days ago skill power is at 435k, this morning I completed Amherst Apartment & Warren gate on legendary solo and wasn't using firearm stacks, I only used the rifle for the talents, Now I'm impressed. thanks for the videos and help.
thx a lot for the feedback really glad to hear it went that well. yes, unfortunately 6pc is not as viable as it should be ...
6 pc skills sets this GE are beyond sad. 4 pc 1.6 builds still better in most cases. I don't understand how someone at massive thought this is how you play Tactician. 5 minutes on google or RUclips will tell you otherwise. Trying to get 60 stacks while running solo with 2900 stam is a good way to get melted. For Firecrest I am getting better results with 2FC, 2 tac, Barrett's and ninja at 370 SP than the 330 SP with the FC 6 pc... If you don't like setting yourself on fire with the 6 pc explosions I recommend the build.
absolutely agree with you. imo 5 pc firecrest is not too bad. but i don't like the 6 pc bonus at all on tac and firecrest.
Can you use the old tactician?
what do you mean by old tactician? 4 pc tac with barrett's and inventive?
Yes cause I'm a solo player legendary missions are hard for me
yes, you can still use this version. you can find all guides to all the legendary missions on my channel. you can finish them all with this setup 👍
Parker's Gaming HD hi how can i make a classified gearset thanks
Honestly the classified Tac turned out to be trash. Really disappointed with this gear set.
can understand you fully. was a bit disappointed too. the best thing about it is, that you get the higher stats from the classified gear pieces. not less not more ;-)
Yes just some extra skill power nothing special tho ): Considering how powerful other gear set's are like striker/pred and nomad the tac classified really sucks.
Agree with that. I've gone 5 piece. With incentive I think. 15% more skill power at full health. If it doesn't feel as powerful I'll go back 4 piece with barretts and incentive. Great for anti social soloing
And if anyone needs a partner in crime on xbox I've just switched from the ps4. So regrinding for gear
I have 3 parts tactian, but i have 360k electronic with all stats set to skill power how the fukc you have over 500k?
you should find the explanation in the video ;-) you need the mods as well and you need inventive and barrets to reach the highest amount of skillpower.
nice Build, thanks for the vid... but why don't u run with lower Gearscore Weapons, so you can activate all those Talents without " wasting " anything into stamina or firearms...because the Skills will do most of the Work anyways... ,-)
thx buddy, i am using lower gearscore weapons. i do have nothing specked into FA or STAM ;-) i have just higher stats because of the classified version and because i maxed out my weapons on the optimization station ;-)
Yeah.. my bad .. it was too early in the morning.. and before coffee..😂🖖🏻
I know i love that buff..lol
👍👍👍
a gamplay in dz or ug or even on a legendary mission would be good rather whole video explaining might be boring or some might no believe sharing my opinion dont mind
here you can find some gameplay with this setup ;-)
ruclips.net/video/R2xuzj6A2B4/видео.html
RODSCHER 80 thanks alot mate appreciate ot
Appreciate your guide, but 6pc Tac isn‘t worth the effort.
4pc Tac + Barrets Chest + Inventive Backpack is way stronger. The best Tactician Build in my opinion
it seems, that you didn't watch the video ;-)
First thanks for the videos.
I have 448k Electronics and i seem to be getting the same damage with or without 30 stack (still only 137k seeker dmg per tick) .. i cant really see any difference. So is the four piece tactician bounus worthless and would i be better making a ninja hybrid instead?
hard to give an answer if i don't see your screen. i would just go to the shooting range in the BoO and do the test there. check the stats on your skills with and without stacks. it should def. be higher with 30 stacks ;-)
what i mean is with 5 piece tac i have 422k Skill power/9,870 ele and 452k with inventive, however wether i use seekers at 422k skillpower vs 550k+ it make no/negligible difference. Thus i was wondering, seems the 30 stacks from 4 piece tac don't do anything whether it would be best to make a hybrid instead of havinf wasted set bonuses? my gear isnt fully optimized yet but all pieces have same stats as yours except barrets which has HoK instead of skill haste untill i cann get a better one to drop.
just have in mind, that the soft cap is at 450k so after this you do not benefit from more damage as before ;-) i did once a reddit post about this topic where you can find the stats ;-)
Ah ok, thanks. so if you use inventive there is no point having Death by proxy, seems i wasn't noticing negligible difference with damage i go with police up .. so i get always replenished ammo (though it dosen't refill grenades unfortunately). i'm going to tey your D3 build next, looks interesting XD