Why is Sweden allowing fueling of hatred?
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- Burning of Quran by Swedish far right politician draws condemnation by Muslim countries and raises question why Swedish government is allowing fueling of hatred.
Guests:
Ahammed Hussain
Spokesperson for The Muslim Public Affairs Committee UK
Farid Hafez
Lecturer and Researcher at the University of Salzburg
Ajmal Masroor
Imam and Broadcaster
Sweden has gone from being a wealthy country to allow uncontrolled immigration causing social clashes, illegals demand everything Sweden citizens had worked to hard for, an immigrant needs to have ambitions and once in a different country adapt and become part of that society
*But Swedes believe in freedom.*
@@redwine1896
*What are you talking about,you sound silly!!*
@@yonggasaputro656
long live Islam!
@@redwine1896
Good point!
Where ever Muslims go they plan on taking over . Their goal is to make that country a Muslim country . People better wake up .
It's funny how they can blame a country like Sweden for an act done by a single person that is Danish 🤣
It's funny how Sweden prefers to bow to a bunch of savages, than defending a fellow Scandinavian.
It looks like they allow him to do it, they didn't really try to stop him. So yeaaah
Exactly and they cry Islamophobia all the time if even you question the illegal act of any one muslim immigrant. Its amazing that Sweden is allowing this nonsense to happen.
@@ivantulumovic861 Laws in the country DO NOT ALLOW anyone to stop him.
@@wafle7350 Which is good that he can talk and express himself but that is a sentence of death right there from Islam ☪️. Just that should make people think about freedom of speech under Islam
They are not fuelling hatred, they are releasing anger that has been drip fed into them by the way they've been abused by so called asylum seekers and all their vile despicable ways, and rightly so, God bless this politician and all that stand with him !
He is an idiot. Denamrk do not want him nether does we really...
I stand with SWEDISH GOVERNMENT.
I agree 100%
Such an interesting outlook. You get angry with your government’s policies and burn something sacred to over 2,5 billion people???
@@bc7190 98 % of those people don't even know how evil the Quran is . What is interesting about the so called Holy book is that anyone would give it any credibility . What is wrong people who think such a book of dribble could come from God when it motivates its believers to kill people . GOD said thou shall not kill .
Where the Muslims are not happy:
They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.
They're not happy in Indonesia.
So, where are they happy?
They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in India.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame [for their unhappiness]? Not Islam...not their leadership...not themselves... They blame the countries in which they are HAPPY! And they want to change the countries in which they're happy, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy.
Well thought and sadly true because Islam ☪️ is at war against non Muslims world, until they get the whole world for themselves and us dead 💀
Which countries are destroyed and looted by european countries in WW1. Divided by them etc.
Gaza, Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon and Turkey. Are you blaming us for your evilness?
it's their version of "trade'..
I am X-Muslim. I read Quran and hadiths since childhood. These are evil books. it should be Burn. That Swedish man is doing a brave job. GOD BLESS HIM and HIS family.
Oh really, tell me who’s the current caliph of Islam
Thank you for your courage to speak up with the truth .
We can't just pick and choose what is freedom of speech and what isn't. This was hate but isn't a hate crime. He was under his right to burn the Quran and Swedish law protects him. Why should Turkey dictate what Sweden does within it's own borders? This is coming from a Muslim living in Sweden. We have rights that shouldn't be infringed and freedom of speech is one of them. Turkey being a so called "secular" country should understand.
*Talk about the Holocaust and see what happens.*
Hej! Vet du något om hur allvarligt olika muslimer i Sverige tycker det är att bränna koranen?
I min värld skulle man kunna göra ett argument utifrån principer i islam som gör att det inte vore fullt så problematiskt. T.ex:
Uppenbarelsen för Mohammed var ju verbal (eller mental?), ängeln Gabriel kom inte med koraner i bokform, det var först senare som koranen skrev ned. Koranen i bokform är en mänsklig konstruktion och den eviga koranen är den som funnits i guds medvetande som ängeln uppenbarade för Mohammed. Därmed kan man separera brännandet av en fysisk bok från koranen som heligt ord.
Koranen kan inte heller själv nämna att brännandet av koranen i bokform skulle vara haram eftersom koranen inte var en bok när den uppenbarades.
Jag känner mig tveksam till att många skulle vara mottagliga för något sådant resonemang, men det kanske finns någon annan väg att rent teologiskt ta udden av koranbränningarna?
@@user-ry2qs7xf9k are you seeing all the rallies are going down now and all the awful things are being said about Jewish people? I guess your comment didn't age well
Oh, now I see this is a Turkish news channel. That’s why the reporting is so one sided 😅
Too true.
One sided? You can not burn lgbt flag in Sweden. Or torah, or bible. But you can burn Quran. This is very one sided situation, yes.
@@vedattokgoz7213 What? Of course you can. Where did you get that nonsense from?
@@vedattokgoz7213 And why have three “experts” in the panel when they have exactly the same opinions.
@@johnsvensson4579 Bro, they didn't allow it for Torah years ago stop lying. They said we will not allow anti semitic stuff in sweden etc.
Sweden has a seperations of powers structured into three branches one legislature, one executive and one judiciary , therefore the goverment cannot even legally interfere in cases like this. One fundamental part of the swedish democracy is freedom of speech and opinion, which cannot easily be limited as its a necessity for a true democracy. Not only because it lets the citizens opinions to be heard and raised, but it also functions as a form of democratic self defense against actors/a goverment that wants to limit others ability to make their voices heard. You cant have it both ways, youll have to accept people expressing themselves in a way you disagree with.
In sweden there is laws that limit free speech under very specific circumstances, one of these is incitement against an ethnic group. This law tho is kinda fuzzy and a bit inconsistent when its being used. However, this probably has to do with how strongly the right to free speech is protected in swedish law.
Sweden also have a complicated goverment constellation as sweden has a minority goverment, which forces the goverment to seek a majority in the parliament from other political parties. One thing is that for the current goverment to seize power they needed the support from the Swedish Democrats, a party that historically have a xenophobic background and anti-muslim. The swedish democrats think that the current goverment is compromising too much with turkey in the nato negotiations, and that they are caving for "islamism". To satisfy the Swedish Democrats the goverment probably cant be to0 outspoken about condeming this mans action of burning the Quran without risk loosing some of their support.
Ppl also need to realize that Erdogan is using the international political arena to gain support at home in the upcomming turkish election, where he is blowing things out of proportion. This guy is a fking nobody and muslims should realize that this is a guy who basically is exploiting the swedish system. And only doing it to provoke muslims and to polarize the political landscape to further arouse his far right/xenophobic agenda. Laugh at this guy instead and move on.
After the Quran burning a man in Sweden applied to do the same thing to the jewish Thora in front of the Israeli ambassy… and guess what, the authorities did not give the permission. So any excuse you may come up with has ZERO value!
Sure… But government interfered when the same group wanted to burn the Torah…
No one is buying democracy, separation of powers story…
Yeah. Its weird the effort of the police setting up perimeters and protecting this fool.
Hes fueling the extremists. Im sure there will soon be a new terroridt attack in Sweden.
We dont need this frickin dane burning qurans provoking the terries.
This isnt about erdogan lol. If they are not allowing doing the same against jews or with bible this is just hypocrisy and everyone has a right to demand they do not show such a hypocrisy. And erdo he is a far better man than many of these western leaders. If a man like him who serves his people this much especially to lower class ones were to come to authority he would be remembered as one of the best president of his time. He is just born in a country which is the target for colonialist lobbies who tries to corrupt others and colonialize through that as we have seen in africa, iraq and so on
What kind of people want to stop freedom of speech
People with no freedom
Exttremism
long live freedom of speech 👍🏼
Because Sweden is the land of free speech and expression. It's shouldn't be this hard for Muslims to understand and I am a Malaysian Muslim. You abide by the country's law whether you agree or not. You don't see Swedish people protest Saudi Embassy for chopping people's hands off for minor offences.
May I burn LGBTQ flag in Sweeden?
Why Sweedish people not protest about a saudi employer chopping india maid hand? Because she is not Sweeden. Bro, your analogy quite stupid.
Insulting religion is not allowed. Read Sweedish penal code. Chapter 16, section 8.
Provocation itself is not a good act.
In other words, provocation is something which causes a reasonable person to lose control.
If someone provoke you and then you kill him and die, you are not a murderer, just a manslaughter. You are going to be jailed a couple of years instead of death penalty.
Hmmm, I wonder what will happen if I express my freedom of speech on something like lgbtq in sweden. They are just Bunch of hypocrites. All the point is that they don't see Islam something important. The freedom of speech is there is just to spread hate against groups the government doesn't care about. And since when are crimes justified by laws ?. their laws won't save them from jahanam. I'm shocked this coming out of a Muslim.
Estagfurullah
Agree sweden ground law is your choice to go to country of choice but we dont have a reasen to change laws becouse it come muslims is over rated absolutly no hate crime
If you say that burning Quran is a "freedom of speech" that takes you out of Islam.
She keeps coming back to "why did sweden deport him when he was danish citizen but allowing him when he is a swedish citizen?". Well the simple answer is that that they can't. Sweden is a democracy and the state can't just do anything they wan't. They do not have that power. They could change the law, but that will take years if they decide to do that.
which is what they should do, to properly apolagize, weden to accede to turkey's request and provide the same protections to muslims as it does to the jews.
Change the Law to protect only Islam ? Hypocrisy without borders !!!!
No, being a citizen in democratic nation doesn't allow any person to hurt people's feelings.he can hate the Qur'an but burning it and chose to go in the doors of Muslims is another issue
@@ahmedthasleem4627 I don't mind them protecting other faiths too, but how is hypocritical??? I only care about islam, so if I don't get protections for any other religion, how am I being hypocritical? I never said I care about other religions, only mine.
Jews already get protection in many places in Europe, so Muslims are only asking for the same.
You want Us to give you something, right? we have you future in our hands, you are Requesting that we do something that you want, then as fair exchange, you apologize and do this for us. why should we let you insult us and not even make any laws to ensure this doesn't happen again before letting you join? If you want to Join NATO do this or forget it.
Only Finland can join, not Sweden.
@@landlord4real Don't allow your feelings to get hurt.
The Quraan hurt my feelings too. But you guys are reading it right?
As a Swede, I would like to announce that we do not have medieval blasphemy laws. We still have freedom of speech. The fact that people are violated by freedom of expression is not reason enough to restrict freedom of expression. Those who are offended will only advance their positions and demand even greater restrictions on freedom of expression. Next time we must not criticize religion as people can become violent and offended. What about freedom of speech in Turkey? Egypt? Saudi Arabia? Can you criticize religion? Can you leave religion? Are people free enough to choose? Of course we should be allowed to mock and mock religion, politicians and power. It is a human right. The Turks and Turkey can do what they want in their country. In Sweden, Swedish laws and regulations apply.
If antisemitism is normal in Europe in the past, but it's illegal today in many countries and considered as crime, well as you idea of free speech is flawed and contradictory in the first place. Islamophobia is just different type of antisemitism, by allowing islamophobia you just move on from allowing hate speech to Jew to allowing hate towards Muslim.
@@thatsawesome2060 If only I had a large private island, I want all Muslims in Sweden to go and move to my island, is there any guarantee that there will be no more burning of Qurans & Islamophobia in Sweden?
@@thatsawesome2060 It is not Islamophobic to criticize Islam and its not "phobic" to burn a book. He does that just to prove a point. And many muslims falls in his trap. They just confirm what he says.
@@Fishybusiness2024 say whatever you want against Islam you will never wipe it out
@@carljohnson2194 Wipe it out ?? i dont think thats the point.... To creetike any religion or political ideology is necessary for a free thinking public. Even if no one likes it. "I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It" And thats meens everyone religus, politics or ireligus
It's hate, but not a hate crime
It´s all in the eye of the beholder...
People tend to forget the messages inside the book addressed against non belivers.
@@kajman911
Exactly
To a godless, soulless person...yes
@@amarsharif2585 Funny you call soulless to people who have the mental capacity to think on their own, and not the ones who repeat whatever they were told since they were child, all of them a copy of each other with no personality, like NPCs.
@@amarsharif2585
I am from Sweden.
We have practical experience from your kind of belivers for decades.
That is riots, violence, fire, stone throwing (and much much more) most often aimed against the society of non belivers.
So i am sorry that i do not share your point of view.
He who angers you, controls you.
Not when you hold his safety in your hands.
If someone punches in the face you will smile at them?
@@dripwoo6389 what a way for compare. See thats Are really not legal like it, s illegal spitting and threating him and set fire to ppl cars. That dosent bother really many, we dont care.
@@gormenghast9985 still he, s own book. What some put into a book is not really he, s problem.. Like it was a book of national songs Also could Hurt someone.. It would theirs problem and weird enough those meet up for look at it.. So they have a argument for cause troubles like last happy easters 3 day in row full of destruction and he was not even there..
Only our leaders controlling us none Earl's, we are ready to protect our religion and its value at any cost
These panelists talking rubbish. All agree on same rubbish
It is a insane act against a insane religion a disresptful act against a disresptful regiligion
I really concern about you. you fine? you should respect a disrespectful religion?
“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.” - Noam Chomsky
The freedom to be inoffensive is no freedom at all.
Any one who says this is so offensive to them that this swede should be thrown in prison has offended me even more so, so to keep the principle consistent they to now must join this swede in his prison cell
That is hate speech not the same as freedom of expression
@@lilinsanity1015 That's a very hateful comment you have just made
I hate genocide. I wish my entire species hated genocide, and then there would be no more genocide.
@@lilinsanity1015 show me the difference and ill have my brother in law arrest. My goodness your stupid
some hate freedom and democracy - like north korea-ruzzia and mostly muslims country - why we have a place for live next to each others - not together - those cant handle living by democracy and enjoy freedom - they think freedom is killing others and threaten throw arounf with rocks bevause their feelings are hurt .
I don't understand why they don't migrant to Muslim countries where they can be free in their religion.
According to doctrine (SvJT 2006 s. 213) analyzing the swedish laws 16:8 BrB (brottsbalken) and article 9-10 ECHR (european convention of human rights), the subtile line between being and not being a hate crime is if they are preaching violence (or ill-treatment) against other specifically because of e.g. their religion. I will try to demonstrate this with the following examples:
1. A person who is preaching "hurt those people who believe in X" *IS* concidered hate crime.
2. A person who is preaching "Those who believe in X are like a sickness" *IS NOT* concidered hate.
3. A person who is burning a quran, *IS NOT* preaching violence against the people who believe in quran.
4. A person who is burning a quran and saying "go and burn those believers" *IS* committing a hate crime.
5. A person who is burning a quran and saying "I hate the believers" *IS NOT* committing a hate crime - they are just expressing their thoughts.
now do the same with burning the torah, lgbt flag and ukraine flag.
@@ReviewGuy01 doesn't matter what it is. It is legally possible to burn hbtq-flag or torah if you want to. This is the freedom of individuals in Sweden. No matter if hbtq or rabbi gets very angry, they can not prevent individual from their freedom in Sweden. Same goes to burning any flag. The last time burning flags in Sweden was criminal, was in 1971 (skymfande av svensk rikssymbol, skymfande av utländsk rikssymbol).
how about if I deny the Holocaust?
@@user-ry2qs7xf9k It is not illegal to deny the holocaust in Sweden. You can check directly from source "Dir. 2021:87 Regering"
@@danielalt7508
*I know there is no law but some people suffered because they talked about it,it's like an unwritten law,for example I remember a Swedish democrat woman who was suspended because of some remarks about Anne Frank,anyway it's a matter of time before Sweden issues a law against the outrage of religious feelings because security is above all,if Swedes want to to protect their "freedom" of expression they have to expel all Muslims.*
*When a country is ethnically, religiously, ideologically homogeneous,people can talk about freedom and democracy all the day, Swedish democracy is being tested to see whether it's real or it's just double standard. *
Anyone has the right to freedom of speech even people with brain injuries and a criminal record. And that should be so obvious that it should not even have to be said.
Too true.
He can burn it if he likes. Any one can burn any book they want. Freedom to like or not to like. Paper is NOT GOD, unless you choose PAPER to be your GOD.
If you are willfully being ignorant of other people's beliefs then shame on you.
People hold different things as sacred, just because you don't understand doesn't make it okay.
Sweden should be humble, apolagize and ban blasphemy to make ammends.
@@glurppuffloid9796 The SHAME IS ON YOU for condoling and believing LIES. Different people believe in many lies, and if you believe their lies THEN THE SHAME IS ON YOU. Find TRUTH and remove your SHAME. It is written that few will find TRUTH because many follow the BROAD WAYS of the things of this world.
May God bless Rasmus Paludan and protect him from his evil enemies
Sadly this discussion is full of lies and wrong answers. Even if its Turkish news it's Extremely one sided.
Look here, this ONE person. Why would you blame a whole country for what ONE person does?
He has ZERO things to do with the swedish politic parties, Nothing!
All people here in Sweden Knows that he is noting more than a person that likes to provoke.
And sadly, all have not played along. Instead of ignoring him, you do just as he wishes.
Also one important thing, this happened in Sweden and here Swedish law apply. We have democraty and freedom of speech.
This is not a hate crime, since its not a crime to burn paper.
Its a hateful thing to do, but not a crime.
I mean, look how some are acting now. I guess that there are some that one bad things to happened to Sweden. But should your whole country pay for what one person does?
What is vorst,burning a book?.Or burning,hanging,dismember and stoning people?.THAT is a more inportant topic.
We Swedes thinks the rights to express our opinion is far more important...As long as no harm is done. Burning a book ANY kind..is only a way of upsetting ...
Childish.
Let's talk about the Haulocost.
Too true.
You cannot force people to accept something they do not want to accept. All muslims have their own countries to live in, work in and practice their own religion, and should stay in their own countries, instead of trying to push their agenda onto others. Sweden are perfectly within their rights to protect their own values, customs, culture and religion.
They converted probably the most important landmark of orthodox christianity into a mosque. Is that not offensive against orthodox christianity ?
no crime that's for sure, it's a right u have
just as Turkey has the right to ban sweden from NATo, just a right that it has...
@@glurppuffloid9796 Turkey don't belong in nato to it has shown many times why they don't turkey is a corrupt country that shut be side by side with Russia and not EU
@@sypainthy 1) Turkey is one of the largest contributors to NATO's effective military strength besides the US
2) Turkey is a better military asset than Sweden ( bigger army and better geographical location and ports, airports)
3) Turkey houses USA's nukes
4) The EU is not the same as NATO, also there is nothing wrong with keeping good relations with Russia, especially considering that the rest of the NATO members didn't support Turkey in its military adventures and many nations were hoping the coup to overthrow the government in Turkey had succeeded.
Just like if someone do tha same thing ?
@@glurppuffloid9796 but for the wrong reason 🙂
As a swede I can guarantee you that there are NO political objectives in Sweden behind allowing this demonstration.
Devlet izniyle başkasının kutsalına saldırıldı.başkasının kutsalına saldıranların kutsalları yoktur.domuz gibisiniz hayvansınız.bu ifade özgürlüğü ise neden isveçte başörtüsü serbest olmalı diyeni hapse mahkum ediyorsunuz
@@Farbror_Torkel Respect for the opinions of others is different. Attacking the sacred of others is different. For example, imagine kicking a dog in front of an animal lover, torturing him. Then this is my freedom of expression, my opinion is like that
@@bekir3010 the problem would not be the feelings of the animal loving person but that the dog is injured. Burning a photograph of a dog. will not offend anyone enough to protest and is perfectly legal.
@@thomasherzig174 can I burn rainbow flag in front of sweden parliement?
@@thomasherzig174 Türkiye denying them NATO is perfectly legal. The Kuran burning is illegal according to Sweden's own laws, as it is considered hate speech for targeting a religious group. Hate speech is prohibited in Sweden. So Sweden broke their own laws here.
is it a hate crime to burn a flag? is it a hate crime to burn a lawbook? is it a hate crime to draw mohammed?
The 3 guys are boiling with anger (if not hate) even though Rasmus did not touch/injure/kill a single person. Do these 3 feel the same anger when hundreds Europeans are killed by muslim knife-, axe-, car-, bomb-attacks? I have some doubts... sadly.
Leave Europe if you can't accept freedom and freedom of speech.
They should leave no matter what.
Avrupa'ya gitmek istemiyoruz Türkiye de anket sonuçları %90 Avrupa'yı istemiyor kendinizi bulunmaz Hint kumaşı sanıyorsunuz
Buring of LGBTQ 🌈 Flag will be considered as Homopobic.
Burning of Israeli 🇮🇱 flag will be considered as Anti sematic.
Burning of Quran ☪️ will be considered as freedom of expression 😄 😆 😀 👌.
You are a new right ?
@@hassanrafi5887 how many Swedish flags and danish flags has been burnt by Muslims.
Try to search in Google, and you will find plenty of pictures of Muslims burning other countries flags .
So what is your point ??
Stop acting like a big cry baby and accept the fact that we live in a country with freedom and freedom of speech, or go back to you Islamic state, who by the way kills lgbtq for fun and Jews and bombs innocent woman and children.
So don't try to make islam look like a victim, when you are the killers.
@@erikstorm4536 a typical jew. Answering a question with another question
The muslim reactions is like food for Rasmus' actions. If you express concern or hatred over him burning books, you are partly to blame.
The entire idea of him is to burn humans instead of only books, which is why Muslims are outrageous across the blanet!
Exactly, he knows that if he throws red meat to ill educated, primitive savages they’ll explode into violence and will fill TV screens with their hatred, threats , nonsense and irrational behaviour. He’s a failed Danish politician, desperate for attention, he could only muster around a hundred to even watch his stupidity, but many millions see the violence and hatred of islam on the streets of backwards, ill educated and oppressed countries
And if you don't? they will walk all over you and humiliate you like they do to Christianity. If you don't stand up for yourself who will? turning the other cheek is weak pacifism.
You christians just envy us because we have power of brotherhood and commonhood, if liberals burns your Bible nobody even do anything and everyone just gonna forget them few days later
@@abumuslimal-asiani2066 Religion is nothing more than ignorant, hate filled, primitive superstition. I’m no Christian but I doubt they envy the ill educated, impoverished mob of violent low life that imagined that some failed Danish politician burning a nonsensical work of fiction, merited rioting on the streets of Turkey. The book burning fool wanted the world to see violent muslims spewing hatred on their TV screens and mobs of none too bright, ranting, violent muslims happily obliged him. Hopefully christians would behave more sensibly if someone burned an equally nonsensical work of fiction, the bible and did the sensible thing and simply ignored them.
Why is Turkey not deporting criminals who are wanted in Sweden and Internationally? Some of them bought some real estate(from money made from crime!!) and get Turkish citizenship. Same same but a different story. And it is so many different stories going on.
As we seen again democracy, free speech etc works in EU when it suits for EU.
Read what the evil lying cult book the quran say about people who can think by themself and don't need the rat allah in there life. vers 98:6 Those who disbelieved - be they from among the People of the Book or among those who associated others with Allah in His Divinity- shall be in the Fire, and will abide in it. They are the worst of creatures.
Mass immigration of people who hold beliefs and customs totally alien to Europe's should not be allowed in, and if in, should be helped to relocate to own or other country
@@marioformosa4259 USA and european countries sent 4000 truckloads of weapons to YPG in North Syria. For dividing country. Just in 2022. That terrorist organization kicked out whole Arabs and Turkmans from their zone. Immigration is exist because of your goverments. So shut up!
Sweden is a Progressive Country..They Have Done Very right thing.
cry babies.......
Not crying, sweden is not going to nato. they can cry lol
please correct me if I´m wrong, but I was told that this is an English speaking Turkish channel. I grew up in Sweden and my experience tells me that it is far from being a perfect country, but still, being lectured on "hate crime" and "freedom of speech" by a government led by a "freedom fighter" like Erdogan...the gall!
If he has no relevance then why do all Muslims have their panties in a knot?
Why have a panel if it’s only bias takes?
Double standard.
Strange thing with turkiey whether you are Islamphobic, kurdish, Swedish you should be condemned whatever you do just so erdogan can use it to boost his domestic politic.
The headline sould read, 'Why Is TRT Fuelling Hatred'?
My butt
Depressed people do depress things it's that simple
Freedom of speak.
-Has Mr’ Islam ever heard of it?
I never see them burning the Torah. Are they scared of the Jews?
This is the definition of echo chamber.
They ask for equality only from the side that benefits them.
Only one paragraph from Wikipedia:
"The contemporary persecution of Christians includes the genocide of Christians by the Islamic State and persecution by other terrorist groups, with official state persecution mostly occurring in countries which are located in Africa and Asia because they have state religions or because their governments and societies practice religious favoritism. Such favoritism is frequently accompanied by religious discrimination and religious persecution."
Seriously you use wikipedia as the basis of ur argument??? Like not even single text from their religious text?
Shame on you. In sharia you are not allowed to mock religious scripture or insulting Jesus (which they consider as their prophet)
From Google:
"What are 4 countries where Christians are persecuted?
Country Persecution Source Region
1 North Korea Communist and post-Communist oppression Asia
2 Somalia Islamic oppression Africa
3 Yemen Islamic oppression Asia
4 Eritrea Dictatorial paranoia Africa"
Could anyone imagine that Islamic countries could ever tolerate dialogues in their own media about Christianophobia ?
Then burn their flags burn the pictures of people who allow those refugees and persecute against other religions. Burning quran is completely different than this. Turkiye didnt create those refugees or their problems on the contrary turkiye is taking in most of those refugees going to eu and suffering for it even. If you wanna stop those refugees you should first stop usa and france and their little guy in me israel. They create most of those refugees. But you wanna say 'f your mother' to many religious turks while trying to justify this in a hundred ways. Just hypocrisy and double standarts
Why is the panel 3 muslims? Not 1 European christian. Right there you have 1 exempel of the problem...........
Another broadcast that shows focuses on the intolerance of a host country and not addressing why all these Muslims are leaving their home country. Stop being a victim, if you don't like Sweden because of liberalism, go to another Muslim country.
This cult wants to live in his 1400 years earlier imaginary world.well done sweden❤
Any raw footage of his speech?.
The best response will be to ignore
Which is what we have been doing since his first burning of holy books , I wonder who drags this out into media now , who gains ?
Freedom of speach, you should try it.
Too true.
The book is not holy for everybody. Mohammed is not even Gods prophet for many. So dont be cowed by Islam n Muslims. Muslims can't impose their primitive beliefs on people who don't subscribe to the beliefs.
N Pls define Islamophobia. Korans values are against Swedish secular democratic values.
Theres nothing called Islamophobia. Its just another manipulation.
If you cannot sympathise with other people and what they hold sacred, don't expect them to do what you want either.
If Sweden doesn't want to apolagize and make laws to ban blasphemy, then Turkey has no reason to admit Sweden into NATO.
i would not insult your mother and then demand you let me join your party, so why do you expect Turkey to let Sweden join?
No common decency and no moral character. smh
@@glurppuffloid9796 the Koran is a book of hatred against Jews Christians n everyone else. it insults us and then expects us to respect it? Stop playing victim. Grow up!! Stop implementing your Sharia on rest of world. Maybe you Muslims should stay behind the Islamic curtain, so you can feel safe in your religion. Btw you don't respect our holy Bible by coming to our countries n saying it's corrupted.
@@johnpeter3626 You have clearly not read it, please read it once.
the Bible is corrupted, even Christian scholars believe that.
Also the trinity is illogical, try explain it if you can, without committing heresy ( modalism etc.)
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As a christian you should understand that god's law (sharia) is universal, christians also have some sharia even though you abandoned your laws. jews have sharia definately.
Sharia just means the law that god gave us.
as a Christian you should know that religion is universal
Muslims NEVER insult Jesus( peace be upon him ) and we NEVER insult GOD. that is what atheists do.
We believe the Gospels you have are not 100% accurate but we can back up that claim and you will agree too, you take it on faith that even though there are copyist errors and contradicting numerical values and inerpolation and corruption( editting) in the bible you still believe it has guidance, we also think there are some nuggets of truth in the bible.
eg. the Lord's Prayer.
Muslims believe only the FATHER should be worshipped, we do not believe the Son is = father /GOD
since the son was created and hence not eternal. he is eternally begotten of the father hence he cannot be GOD himself
also the trinity is illogical ( no offense, it just isn't and many christians agree that classical logic doesn't apply to the trinity )
3 persons cannot be one GOD, yet remain distinct.
if A=B & C=B Then Logically A=C but in trinity that is false since the Son = God, Father = God, but the Son is not the same as the father since both have seperate wills and centers of consciousness, which is illogical.
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Back to Topic, you would not Appreciate a liberal atheist burning a bible, so why do you support a nazi atheist burning the Quran? you Chrsitians have already let the atheists and liberals completely walk all over chrisitianity, THEY ( atheists) mock God, they mock Jesus(p.b.u.h), they mock christianity, yet you all do Nothing, and hence they do not respect you.
We will stand with you and also stand up for you when they mock christianity, if you stand up with us and protect us too. We both Worship the GOD of Abraham, we Both respect and revere Jesus ( may peace be upon him) we both believe in the prophets and believe that satan is our enemy, so why do you side with the nazis and the atheists?
If you protect the freedom to Mock and Blaspheme, they will continue mocking you and blaspheming against god! is your hatred to islam really that strong that you are willing to kill christianity to ensure that islam burns too?
@@glurppuffloid9796 omg , I'm supposed to read all that?! Your Koran was written by a pedophile, who beat his wife up... He was an adulterer, practiced incest, caravan robber, afraid of demons, demon possessed, liar, slave owner, racist, unclean, etc...etc...Antisemite. ..
You want us to think his book is Holy?
Pls, this is the West, where Islam n Koran are scrutinized with modern literary tools, unlike what u do in Islamic countries. Get used to it or bugger off.
The reporter asks why nothing was done from the Swedish goverment when it says it was upset? There was nothing to be done. One can dislike a statement without thinking it should be criminalize. The goverment in Sweden can't get involved in individual cases of administrative matter, it is illegal according to the constitution: "No authority, not even the Riksdag or a municipality's decision-making body, may decide how an administrative authority in a particular case shall decide in a case relating to the exercise of authority against an individual or against a municipality or which relates to the application of law." (12 ch. 2 § of the constitution) It is not illegal to burn the Kuran in Sweden. It is not considered hate speech. The law thats prevents hate speech in Sweden prevents hate speech against groups, not books. The law states it wery clear: "Anyone who, in a statement or in another message that is disseminated, threatens or expresses contempt for a people group or another such group of persons with allusion to race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, creed, sexual orientation or gender-transgender identity or expression, shall be sentenced for incitement against a public group to imprisonment for a maximum of two years or, if the crime is minor, to a fine." (16 ch. 8 § of the criminal code).
Burning the Quran ( a religious symbol like the cross of David or the Torah or a Synagogue ) would normally be considered as Hatespeech against the Muslim community by any sane person. as such Burning the Quran, intentionally making caricatures of holy figures in Islam or other similar things are as such a part of hate speech, including the Nazi man's white supremacist rants against islam. he should've been banned, but Europe is hypocritical and only allows hate speech towards islam, calling it "freedom of religion"
I guess it's kind of flawed given that something like a holy book is truly attached to someone. All of this subliminal message is not even considered. Alas.
So why the same government didn't give permission for Torah burning in front of Israel Embassy?
@@azmard4865 then every book should be forbidden to burn maybe a group of nazi People doesnt want People to burn mein Kempf and so on (sry for my english)
@@ernaherlina8014 Is there a decision from the authorities (police) that someone was not allowed to burn the Torah?
Hey it's not fuelling the hatred, it is purely the act of freedom speech, it is legal in the entire europe to insulting islam. Even if you burn the muslim's lands to find an imaginary weapon or to take some of random ancestor's land,oil or some,etc. Etc. it is called an act of spreading peace, it's not called terrorism at all. I can't believe you guys forget this untold rule
*Let's talk about the Haulocost.*
@@user-ry2qs7xf9k It's gonna be an act of cursed ethnic cleansing, but it works differently when it comes to palestine and uyghur, this world's hipocrisy will end soon, the awaited one will come
LMAO these mosIems here don't even invite a single differing opinion, that tells you everything about them
The Malaysian Government led by Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim has announced that one million copies of Quran will be distributed worldwide in response to Rasmus Paludan's provocation.
Nice, free toilet paper.
Anwar should learn his Quran scientifically not too dogmatically. Learn from MBS.
@@urzirwanomar1962 You're a follower of a barbaric desert cult and call civilized people "cavemen". Really?
@@lautaroka5847 just show how much of a cavemen you are to say such thing. what a joke
@@lautaroka5847 Bro muslims are clean. We use water not dry paper like yours . I smell bad smell from u, r u christian ?🤔🤮🤣🤣☝️🤫
Because "hate" is subjective. I think the Quran is hateful. This is the whole point of freedom of speech - we won't agree on everything that depends on personal interpretations.
the best solution is for whole religious beliefs and nonbeliefs must stay in a separate country and they can do what they want in their own country by their own law and never mix up all in one plate.🤣🤣🤣🤣
It doesn't work that wat, Religion is beyond borders. religion is international.
eg. this case itself
the Swedish Nazi man burnt the Quran in Sweden but Muslims worldwide are angry, from Malaysia to the USA.
Turkey a majority Muslim country is also angry and hence is refusing to let Sweden join NATO unless Sweden says sorry and denounces what happened.
So as you can see diefferent borders and population seperation is not the issue. Turkey is a seperate country from swededn and is still upset with what a sede did in swedish borders.
No islam in Europe.
How is this a hate crime? It's his book and he has a right to burn it if if likes. You want to burn a Bible? Go ahead. That's on you for doing it not me and I'll leave it to God to judge. I'm certainly not going to demand someone be imprisoned or suddenly allow myself to feel unsafe because of it.
Evil will continue if you good human ignore and only watch wrong doing from happening.
Maybe thats why good people burn books that contain wrong and evil?
While not recommending Qur'an burning, keep in mind that while Muslims demand that non-Muslims respect their religion & Qur’an, Muslims are explicitly forbidden by their Qur’an to respect any other religion than Islam or even to respect non-Muslims. Only intolerance & derision are encouraged.
_"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."_ Quran (3:85)
_“There has arisen between us and you enmity and hatred forever unless you believe in Allah and Him alone”_ (Q 60:4 ).
_"Those who do n𝜊t believe in Muhammad are but fu𝜀l for the f𝜄re of H𝜀ll"_ (Q 2:24. 21:98).
So why should non-Muslims have respect for the Qur’an or Islam?
Muslims need to understand that in the West people, esp the US, people insist on their freedom of speech & of expression, something that Islam does not have. Islam, in fact, is highly antithetical to the freedoms cherished in the West, esp the freedoms enjoyed by non-Muslim women.
So true. They (the muslims) would like the world to be ignorant of that fact
That is rubbish hahahaha
@@user12345abcdeft You're calling Qur'an verses rubbish? Rubbish that's k𝜄lled millions over 1400 years.
We actually told to respect other religion as told in Al-Kafirun 1 - 6 :
1. Say, “O disbelievers,
2. I do not worship what you worship.
3. Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
4. Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
5. Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
6. For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.”
I am slightly frustrated at that imaginary rights of western women. Rotten men are still at play. Can't really claim that sort of freedom, not yet. I just see blatant hypocrisy.
Sweden Law permit burning of personal item, eat them. 🤣😁🤣
Why must you force it’s clear they don’t want y’all there! Go to where y’all are wanted. You can’t legislate love guys…
The muslin silent invasion of western countries has been very unpleasant and not always digested. Their believes and behaviors are very different for westerns, and sometimes generates a strong response.
So, we need to persecute people withe different believes and behaviors?
Muslin invasion of western countries results from western countries attacking and destroying Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and more. Making people refugees.
@@adamharris1406 totally agree with you...
There’s no silent Muslim
Invasion of the west lady you’re getting it twisted. Have you ever thought that many Muslims that are running from their countries are doing it because of bombings of western armed forces acting or disguised as terrorists or is the result of western arm trade deals with our corrupt leaders ? In case you didn’t know many of us would have never left our chaos under the sun for your environment if your bombs weren’t drop on us.
This comment coming from a descendant of Portuguese as I can assume through your name, i guess you believe we are all amnesiac or brainless.
Your forefathers destroyed my nation and where the first ones to introduce the Atlantic slavery some 100 years prior to any other western nation, who deemed it as an evil practice in the beginning. Upon seen how filthy rich Portugal and Spain had become though their evil practices, France, England, the Netherlands and Denmark felt they needed to catch up!
Since you’re very limited let me bring it back to you in Portuguese;
Se a senhora não tem a mínima ideia do que fala fique caladinha por amor de DEUS.
Para a sua informação a nação mais responsável pela destruição das ordens reais, sociais e económicas Afrikanas foi a portuguesa.
Por vezes quando não temos nada interessante que falar o silêncio torna-se a opção mais inteligente.
*Are you Hitler?*
Burning of what you consider "holy" is perfectly fine. Holiness or whatever is just your opinion. Because you choose to believe it.
People deserve respect. I am not sure believes do.
Hate, enemity,racism is a modern world civilization and free speech but only on particular religion or people, is it not a shameful act?where are human rights organizations? Does it mean others have no right?
This is not a hate crime it’s a country that don’t want mooselin in it it’s a clear message that mooselin doesn’t fu..,ing understanding mooselin are sucker for attention
Respect need to be mutual not one way traffic
A book cannot be respected or not. It's a pack of sheets.
@@lautaroka5847 yet he burnt the book. Talk about the actual substance at play that you conveniently missed. The message is clear and people protest. You guys are nothing better than some Muslims that justify killing. Bah.
okay ching chong
Tell the muslims to stop telling us not to celebrate our cultures, because they feel uncomfortable then. You don't move to another country and disrespect their culture by not learning their language.
I completely agree and muslims need to learn to respect other cultures and their values.
Paludan is a leader of a very, very small group of people. He is NOT a representative for the Swedish people. In Sweden, it is not a crime to burn a book. Burning sacred symbols maybe a crime of hatred if doing so is intended to cause something bad for others. Most swedes think this guy is an idiot. Please don´t make Sweden look worse than it actually is.
Do NOT move to Sweden
There is a Muslim party in Sweden as well that want to do the same thing as rasmus. .
All this talk is like the wolf complaining that the sheep is very aggressive animal.
The three additional commentators are the father , the grandpa and the ungle of the wolf. :-)
some are really to much up in their heads and the nose to much into a book -
Indeed
@@MIKEDIAMONDZ that stupid book will burn today again same place. Until Erdogan accept Yes for Sweden into NATO a book will burn.
@@jubastheilade6384 the liberals in sweden they are ones making it hard for Sweden, not the muslims ... where ever you recieve muslims they stay to never leave, is known in history ... now try to mitigate that by voting right christian parties otherwose sweden is lost to islam... Russia is nothing compared to Jihadic mentality, you camt bargen with islam is extremly radical
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Respect Sweden. Europe first !
It’s not hatred 🙂
Hatred is a word that minimize his crime
Unfortunately, there are individuals who find it necessary to burn or otherwise damage Qurans. This is purely for provocation and to attract publicity and this is NOT something that the vast majority of normal, sane citizens support.
The Turks were asking for the Kurds to be sent to Turkey. They have made sure Sweden will not do that. A new deal will have to be made or Sweden will not be joining NATO.
Tell that to the people around the world that thinks whole Sweden is behind those that do it....
Jag stöttar såna bränningar 👍Kommunister gillar ej frihet
vast majority you say? Any proof of that? I totally support the burnings of Quran because it is disgusting and full with filth.
Will Sweden allow burning other religious books?
Yes.
It´s called freedom of expression.
This is the pillar in a democracy and in an open society.
@kajman911 Torah in front of Israeli embassy? Are you sure?
@@jerrypotter9070
What i know is if a private citizen owns a book, regardless of its content you are free to burn it.
It´s an act of freedom of expression.
In this case it´s possible that the act only will be permited some distance away from the embassy?
@@kajman911 Sorry to say your version of freedom of expression is wrong.
@@kajman911 what swatstika or what the name that german have in ww2 l forget, what if people wearing that symbol ?
We can begin ask us wy cant we live together as swedish and muslims in peace ? Is a simple solution
If dont follow swedens law wy stay example if burn bible sweds dont attack the police but when your book is burned then it is small wars in country be one with sweden as country
WHOEVER QURAN ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM OR GIVE HIDAYATH TO THEM THATS FOR SURE INSHALLAH
LOVE SWEDEN
دولة عنصرية بكل ما تحمل الكلمة من معنى
@@elhadouchirasheed9283 speak English 😂😂😂😂
@@elhadouchirasheed9283 I don’t speak caveman
It is becoz Islam is spreading fast...it is the reason ...shame on u people that disrespect our Prophet and Book
@@VikingRingstedt yes indeed we have that power and ur men will only see porn and don't have power to produce children.... 😂
@@VikingRingstedt maybe you should go and read it the Quran because in my city I have seen hundreds of people convert from all sorts of religions mostly leaving Christianity.
They're just jealous. They have left practicing their own religions and now they want us to let go of islam too. Even if islam is shrinking in numbers, true believers will always remain steadfast.
ur prophet liked children and sold slaves, i'm pretty sure it's human decency to not like him
@@turbonoodle3015 😂😂
Okay that is a bad person but has anyone in Turkey ever burned a U.S. flag and not been criticized?
Based
It have nothing to do with hate. It, s about love to the right for free speach. Only that.
Is it the right to speech to say the same infront of a synagogue, or to do a nazi parade?
Now we are boycotting Every Swedish product in our country like IKEA H&M etc... This is great movement...
are there any products from islamic countries to boycott except dates, olives, oil and gas. ?.
@@thomasherzig174 just let the boycott begin and you'll know your worth
@@ashkanzahoor7242 the best way for you to boycott Europe would be to stopp exporting masses of uneducated violent religious young men to Europe.
@@thomasherzig174 you Europeans destroyed West Asia, understood, what's happening is everything your doing
@@ashkanzahoor7242 I always was against the wars and military involvement of the USA and their allies. in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc.. I am Austrian, so my country never took part on such military missions. If it would I would do my part to stop my government to so.
But sending military forces to another country to kill people and burning printed paper in your own country are 2 totally different thing, .even when that bunch of paper is considered as a "holy book" by some people.
If someone burns your book of faith and religion, do like Jesus Christ did, ignore your critics.
Its also funny how they only choose to talk to muslims rather than someone that can talk for ''islamophobia''
it turns out that european countries are still behind in their thinking, too afraid of islam, even though muslims consider difference to be something beautiful, we muslims don't consider non muslims enemies and we live to respect and respect other religions, take a look at indonesia here there are 6 religions but we get along just don't care about the religion of the people we care about maintaining security and peace in our neighbours
Well the Yazidi women, schoolgirls and infants were not behind when thinking about Muslims. And suicidal bombs, driving lorries into crowds, cutting of throats, blowing up churches in Britain, Spain, Russia, France, USA, , Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia (Bali) everywhere
@@marioformosa4259 Yes, we in Indonesia live in various religions, and in the government we always protect religious people to protect all their rights, and so do the scholars always instill goodness, don't hurt each other because we live in a world that is not alone, if Christians celebrate Christmas, we Muslims provide facilities for they carry out their worship, we don't harass them, but Europeans always if they don't like Muslims, the religion is brought under control, the brain is like a child, we Muslims don't want religion to be insulted, try to see if there are Christians who are being oppressed or their rights are abused by Muslims, because we Muslims consider differences to be beautiful, you know you are Muslims, animals, we can't even hurt humans, because humans are the same in the eyes of Allah, our religion is different, we both have hearts and feelings. or you don't have feelings
Sorry but u country alway have sunammie ...
"Freedom of expression" is the biggest tool people use to commit hate crimes nowadays💯💯
burning books is not a hate crime 🤣😂🤣😂
Clearly you have no understanding of the definition of a hate crime.
@@anushkasekkingstad1300 I know right
@@mersifullwolf4054 your comment is perfectly correct. My response was to the comment above yours.
The best excusion for let some feel Them Hurt and hated moving to a country with freedom and Then complain..
The only thing I wanna ask is: would the reaction be the same if he burned The Bible?
No. Hardly anyone would care.
Anywhere you go ,you have to respect the law, you can't or don't like it,I no its hard to say goodbye, but that's the only and fair solution
Not only the UK , Swedish Muslims also migrate to Turkey. In Turkeye on the contrary, people of all religious backgrounds feel freely
Utter nonsense.
Is there any hate in the book?
What's Jihadism concept any way!? Islamisation and evangelisation concept any way!?.
Both resulted blood bath where millions were killed in the name of jihad and crusade but they claim that their religions are peaceful and loving respectively. What an irony. Both deserve it,but unfortunately both attack Hindus if only resist want to turn tables on Hindus. Thus with jihad concept muslims and conversion (crusade) both are curse to humanity but preach Human rights to Hindus who ultimately want not to kill even food when vegetarian alternatives are plenty these days. Of course some non vegetarians in Hindus and beef brigades make mincemeat of who ever says so. It's difference discourse.
Plenty !!
@@jr.ilovelibtardtears7669 then list it.
@@jr.ilovelibtardtears7669come on son bring your nonsense accusations
No there is no hate whatsoever in quran and Islam is peace.And the book is the preception for peace.🙂
Freedom of speech is more important then a fictional storybook
Depend on the point of view, brother. You can keep spreading your freedom (hatred) of speech.. Nobody gonna stop you.. Go on.
freedom of religion and conscience has been attacked. supposedly these are democratic!!!freedom of expression is not attacking the sacredness of others.your freedom ends when you hurt someone else.sweden is an oppressive dictatorial country just like north korea
Türkçe yazayım birazda.başkasının kutsalına saygı duymayanların kutsalları yoktur.hayvan gibi domuz gibi yaşam benimsemişsiniz.sizi sadece kanun ve yasa sınırlandırır.ahlak kavramı yok sizde
And turkey has the freedom of choice, not to allow the enemies of Islam into NATO
@@Farbror_Torkel Sweden is a country where those who say the Armenian genocide is a lie are imprisoned. Someone needs to wake you up from the dream. You know, there was freedom of expression
If you throw a stone a a policeman in Turkey what will happen?
Ebba Buch the leader of the small Swedish party the Christ Democrats (Kristdemokraterna) just emphasized that the Swedish police 👮♀️ has the right to defend themselves.
extremism and intolerance can be found across various ideologies. It is indeed a troubling aspect of human behavior that stems from a complex interplay of factors, including individual mindset and societal influences. In some cases, it can be attributed to underlying mental health issues that contribute to radicalization. It is crucial for us to recognize and address these issues, promoting understanding, empathy, and open dialogue. By fostering a society that promotes mental well-being and encourages respectful discourse, we can work towards mitigating the harmful effects of extremism in all ideologies."