6 Reasons I Use Apple TV 4K Over TV Streaming Apps
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- I'm analyzing 6 main reasons why I focus so much on using Apple TV 4K as my main TV interface device instead of using built-in TV app platforms for free.
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0:00 ATV vs. TV Streaming Apps
0:31 Consistency Between Rooms
2:08 Platform Capability
4:43 Gaming
5:51 Better App Support & Quality
7:25 Developer Access
8:23 Cost Is Acceptable
9:56 What Do You Think?
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I used to use a fire stick on all my TVs for pretty much the same reason you stated as far as consistency. I upgraded my theater to an Apple TV and realized how much better it was. I then started swapping out the fire sticks with Apple and it’s been great. My favorite feature that you didn’t mention is that anyone in the house can use a phone as a remote so there is no need to look for or ask someone for the remote.
Did the same, but replaced all the Chromecasts with Google TV for Apple TV 4k. What a difference. Better quality and much faster to open and close apps (or switch between multiple apps). Well worth the extra money.
Phone remote for sure is awesome. I use that feature quite often for various purposes. Another "reason" to add to the list!
I treated myself to an Apple TV 4K for Christmas, my first Apple product, and I have grown to love it. The UI is ad free, super sharp and the screensavers are beautiful. I also noticed straight away the upgrade in picture and sound quality, Apple's own shows in particular are simply the best quality I have ever seen from streaming.
Physical media is still the king for quality but Apple's own shows on the Apple Tv 4K are really good, noticeably better than Disney plus to my eyes.
This channel has done a few different videos comparing the various streaming services/shows video and audio bitrates on Apple TV hardware. I recommend checking them out if you haven't seen them.
@@fl3shgordon It was a video on this channel that convinced me to buy :)
I agree the Apple TV 4K does most things with class and style. For me, it's perfect. I made the decision to buy my films from iTunes rather than disc way back in 2010. It was the best decision that I've ever made. Years later, I enjoy them on my MacBook Pro, iPhone when travelling along with my Apple TV. Then when I visit friends in Paris every other weekend, I sign into their Apple TV and all off my content appears. Plus it works so well with my AirPods Pro - no lip sync issues etc. Also the Computers App is amazing if you have content on your Mac such as video, music, photos etc. Best £160 I've ever spent - less than the price of a nice bottle of fragrance and this will give years of pleasure!
Here's my latest video on streaming quality comparisons. ruclips.net/video/0jk3b-yE_80/видео.html Apple wins on quality for sure, an TV+ content is generally the best.
Ad-free is a great bonus as well. I should have had that in my list of reasons. 😀
I love my Apple TV 4ks, one for my media room and one for the bedroom. I just wish it had Bitstreaming over HDMI for audio out.
This is the deal breaker for me, I have a 800 movie Plex library and the Nvidia Shield is the only streaming box which will support practically every audio and HDR format flawlessly.
I am connected Apple TV with my 8805a processor but sound not satisfied but sony a80j inbuilt appe it’s amazing sound quality
Thank you, for sharing your top six (6) reasons that, you use an Apple TV 4K streaming box. For myself, I use a Roku Ultra $99 (US) on my main TV and, I use a Roku Ultra LT $79 (US) on my secondary TV. For years, this set-up has worked great for many of the reasons you stated in this video (simple set-up, same interface, same controllers, etc.). Another thing, I enjoy about my Roku boxes is that they also, help you track and terminate trial streaming subscriptions (smile...smile).
Well presented 👏🏼👍🏼 and good info 👍🏼🏴
Thank you
Very welcome!
Another great video!
Thanks!
I would love to see the steaming details available on the 4K+ boxes. I have used Roku for Years but when I bought my first Apple 4K+ last year, I noticed a huge difference between a Roku Ultra and the Apple . I now have 4 of them !!
100% with you on this bro! I bought the LG OLED C2 and immediately got the 3rd Gen Apple TV 4K to go with it - it's perfect! I just couldn't get used to the LG remote - a nightmare to work in a dark movie room. Also, since tvOS 17.2 my iTunes 'Extras' button/tab doesn't show on the screen anymore. Do you still have it on yours? The only way for me to access Extras is to go into the store and click on the title and then scroll to the bottom where extras is. Very bizarre. Just checked and the Extras tab is no longer on the latest Mac OS BUT it's still there on my iPhone 14 Pro on iOS 17.2.1
Is the streaming picture quality and/or buffering any better than the streaming apps built into the C2?
Yes, to me the Apple TV 4K looks even crisper in picture. I have 170mbps fibre broadband. I've set my router to 5ghz and the Apple TV 4K is FLAWLESS at streaming 4K Dolby Vision video from both iTunes purchases and Netflix. Press play and it starts INSTANTLY within a millisecond :) It's been 100% FLAWLESS :) Also Apple HomeSharing from my MacBoo Pro 14" 4K UNCOMPRESSED 50mbps+ video to it has been flawless too which surprised me as these files as uncompressed and large - very very impressive. The most underrated Apple product ever and one of the absolute best! :) Plus the remote control is gorgeous and I'm surprised by how well the iPhone remote for Apple TV works :)
@@chrisjfox8715
Agree with all points, the only exception for me will be Bravia Core which you can only get on Sony (with free credits)
Have yet to get the A95L but apart from firmware updates & B.C it will never be connected, my use case is specific obviously but that’s the only exception I’m prepared to make. Everything else is ATV4K all the way, had it a few years now and it definitely tookm y my budget HIsense into the mid-range as far as quality output goes (video & audio!)
Just discovered you. I appreciate your approach and agree with your sentiments; here's my dilemma. I want an iPad experience (wired out of a jack) direct to my audiophile system. I'm using a 12 year old iPad for this purpose but I fear obsolescence is near. If I have to go iMac I will, but I prefer the pad interface and small screen to do the job and fear TV+ and other pad-friendly entertainment does not operate as well on a desktop. Note- no large screen desired so a television will not do.
Your thoughts please.
Welcome to the channel and thanks! Would you be using this iPad for just music or video/movies as well? Are you trying to get the highest resolution music, such that an Apple TV won't work? I've considering using an iPad like this. For music, I would basically look to go USB out of the tablet into a USB DAC input on a preamp or music stream. Then you use the tablet screen, but you get the highest quality output. If you go HDMI out of the iPad, you'll get video, but I don't think you get the highest audio.
I agree with you on using a ext device to do your streaming...we use Roku's 4k Ultra HDR media device...the main reason we use the Roku is because I'm able to change the movie format/zoom in to full screen to get rid of the black bars that you will see on the top and bottom of movies.. you can't do that with the apps on the tv...so that way I can see everything on my 98" Samsung 4k tv...
I have a variety of streamers on hand but lately(now that my Tv is working)I find myself using the Tv apps. more. In my case I like them and although I have a Tv in every room I 99% of the time only use my Living room Tv. So I don’t have to worry about picking up where I left off on another Tv. The only issue I have so far is not having ARC setup to hear audio through my AVM70 and even if I did I wouldn’t get Atmos! So I won’t bother with it. I’ll just turn on my streamer for that. This is why I love your channel. You have a wide variety of topics that you speak on and it also causes us to think and sometimes rethink a different way to interact with our equipment that we weren’t aware of! You sometimes have guess that add to our knowledge. In my circle of friends/family I’m the Guru of electronic knowledge! They don’t know I have an amazing younger teacher schooling me!💯 Thanks!😂👴🏽
Thanks!
I’m curious how Apple get it right with their TV + footage it’s so clear and optimises
Is there any way of controlling playback of Apple Music via the 4K tv box without the need of having tv display on? Would you be able to use iPad or iPhone to navigate playback of Apple Music app?
Your best bet in that case would be AirPlay to the ATV from the Music app. The system will play, and you can navigate the whole app by touch on the tablet or phone screen.
Using airplay 2 would be lossy codec I believe, not lossless quality. Can you confirm?
For video, I thought if you, for example, AirPlay a movie from the TV app on your phone that it just sends an instruction to the ATV to play that content. Then the ATV will go stream that content at highest fidelity directly from its own internet connection. Thus, it doesn't matter if AirPlay protocol is lower fidelity. I'm not sure if works the same way for Music though.
Nice video. I wanted real perspective as to why you genuinely want the external box. I felt your first point was strongest
Personally i use LGs native apps. I like the speed, ease of use, and picture quality
Apple TV has better performance due to its chipset, no annoying ads and more frequent software updates etc. Some content displays at higher bitrates (mainly Apple TV). Other users have reported to experience better video or sound quality for some streaming applications. Can't confirm if that's true though. I have owned new 2023 TV's and I find them to be slow and problematic from time to time, especially when having a few apps running in the background. Apple TV 4k never lags or freezes and the remote control is the best I've ever used. I'm completely sold on this thing, honestly.
If you only use LG TVs around your house, then you still satisfy my "reason" #1 in that you have UI and control consistency even if you use the TV apps.
Apple TV 4K is a Home Hub and a Thread Border router. Video Doorbell alerts and Smart home controls through Apple Home/HomeKit. Apple Fitness+. Apple Arcade. Stereo Pair and Dolby Atmos with HomePods. Siri intergration. Apple Ecosystem integration including control with iPhone, Apple Watch etc. The highest quality streaming. HDR10+ support. The list goes on...
I only use the internal apps on my jvc projector. Settings is my favorite app and it's also the only app.
LOL, you win comment of the day! 🤣
All I wanted to know is whether an Apple TV 4K will give better video and/or audio quality than the streaming apps available on the LG OLEDS (e.g. like your G2). That is all that would matter to me…. I always wondered if LG, for example, makes sure that the video quality optimizes for their panels
I trust the ATV more, personally, especially because I can see exactly what I'm getting. I'll try to do more to test the LG UI/apps coming up.
Since switching to Oleds we stopped using additional equipment only use the tv apps
So Sorry, I have LG C3 and the Apple 4K is Heads and tails Better than the LG core apps. You're really missing out on a great picture and audio upgrade.
I like using the RUclipsTV app on my smart TV instead of Apple TV 4K. I use the AppleTV for everything else. I like smart TV app for RUclipsTV as it doesn’t flicker and ‘refresh’ or change resolutions between shows as much.
Frame rate matching is the Nvidia’s shortcoming. Even the beta frame rate matching feature is faulty. Gonna have to try the Apple.
One thing that needs to be said is less buffering. You do not run out of cashe on Apple TV like you do on the preinstalled app or a fire stick. I have used both and video stops play back to buffer because of the lack of a hard drive.
My streaming reliability on ATV has been pretty flawless.
Apple TV 4K is an excellent streaming box, but I’ve had to stop using mine because there is so much lip sync delay when watching HDR content :( It doesn’t happen on any of my other streaming boxes.
Mess around with the audio delay in the sound settings.
Which sound settings are you speaking of?
@@bsperoz
@@stevelindstrom4765Look up if your TV or sound bar has an "AV Sync" or "Delay" setting." It might have a different name, but most TVs will have SOMETHING that adjust the audio to match the picture, usually in 10 or 25 microseconds increments.
I like how a bluetooth speaker you just turn it on press play on the speaker and plays music off of apple tv without it showing that its on or turning on the TV.
I think that is why we are seeing lots of tvs with fire OS and roku pre installed these days. My main player is a zidoo.
Building OS and app platforms and having them maintained and supported isn't easy nor cheap.
Totally agree. I have 4 of them (latest generation). Wish they would support digital pass-through, then my aging NVIDIA shield could be retired.
How come you did not buy more NVIDIA Shield Tv's?
@@russelldye5506 I just don't like the android eco system. The Nvidia Shield Pro I have is a great piece of hardware for streaming lossless audio in my HT, but for my casual TV sets, apple TV is just (to me) a much cleaner and better solution
I use my 2 Apple TV 4K boxes for all my streaming services and even regular cable tv watching. Those things never fail and having everything in 1 place using only 1 remote is perfect. Not cheap, but not too expensive neither. I love my Apple TV 4K's.
Nice!
I just bought a 77” LG G3 and downloaded the RUclips TV app onto the television to stream March Madness. I have the setting at the highest 1080p, but the image quality is still terrible and blurry. Would downloading the RUclips TV app through the Apple TV help with this at all? Great channel, I love the content. Thanks!
Thanks. I haven't tried RUclips TV on my LG, so I can't say. I need to give the LG apps a look and make some content.
@@Techthusiasm gotcha. Thanks for letting me know!
TBH it sounds more of a resolution issue than an app issue. The quality on the TV's app vs the apple TV's app wont be much different. But yes the interaction will be much smoother with the apple TV
Yes, No Comparison !!
I'm using a 77c3
I would be interested in how the picture quality of native TV apps stacks up against ATV apps, especially for HDR/Dolby Vision content. Aside from that, great video! I've always relied on the native LG TV apps having assumed they offer the best implementation.
Thanks! I hope to find some way to test and compare the LG TV apps.
Quality is similar on the native app vs the ATV. ATV may be a bit better as you can calibrate the output if you have an Iphone.
But yes in terms of UI smoothness and responsiveness, the ATV will be noticeably better.
@@ZK-APA While I don't doubt what you're saying, I would like to see it backed up by some testing. Vincent from HDTVTest showed that ATV color balance (calibration) can negatively affect a well-calibrated TV. So, that's not something I personally care for.
I’m an Apple ecosystem guy but I use the Nvidia box because it’s the only streaming box that can pass thru Dolby Atmos 7.1 from rips on Plex and infuse. Apple won’t allow this on its devices even though technically possible since it wants everyone to buy atmos movies from it.
No projectors. I have an LG qned85 mini-led in my living room and a 48" LG oled in my bedroom. I tried an Apple tv but didn't care for it. Sent it back. I use the apps on my 2 tv's and like them fine. I do have a Sony receiver and Polk speakers in my living room and my LG remote controls all that. Simple and sounds good to me. So not a complicated set up where another external device is needed.
Your situation satisfies my biggest concern from the video - consistency. With no projectors in your setup and all of your TVs being the same make, you maintain that UI and control consistency.
I use Apple TV on our 4K projector, but it’s a bummer that I can’t play 4k UHD movies from Plex on it. I have to use the infuse app. The plex app on the 4K TV that we have can Direct Stream those movies without issue. If I could get 4k UHD with MKV files through Plex on the Apple TV I’d be sold, but Apple’s support for MKV files isn’t there from my experience.
Yes nice to have a 1 click action devices ,Why not use computer for streaming?
In the Apple ecosystem, I feel overall Infuse is a preferable choice to Plex.
@@Techthusiasm so you use Plex media server but with infuse as the client?
You can use Plex to feed Infuse, yes. I don't do that myself though. I just have Infuse running itself.
I had chrome casts for a while, the base ones without the remote then switched to the remote one, apple TV is 10x better, recently switched tool apple TV.
ATV 4K should be a mandatory add on purchase when plenty of us are already spending 3-5 grand on premium TVs.
It's such an easy decision.
Built in tv apps on tvs usually are trash compared to the external devices applications. I agree. 😊I don't have apple but I have Roku and Google and even a fire stick. 😊
I think Roku would be my next go to after ATV.
@@Techthusiasm I like really like the Roku 4K streaming stick with choice of resolution from 720p 1080p 4K 4K HDR and Dolby Vision. Plus it's inexpensive too. Always on sale during Black Friday and the Xmas holidays. A bang for the buck external device.
I’m the exact same way. Both of my OLED’s aren’t even connected to the internet!
I miss the original fully functional iTunes Movies app and the iTunes TV Shows app. I am not a fan of the new Apple TV app which has been forced upon us as a replacement app because it seems cluttered, trying to do too much in one app, less easy to use, less intuitive, and less reliable. Does anyone else feel this way?
As long as they make the TV app better with new features and improvements, I think it'll be OK in the long run.
I use the tv apps. In my living room and man cave. But I do use a Nvidia sheild. In my dedicated movie room
I think the other reason to consider using an Apple TV vs built in TV apps is how they view the value of and use your watch data. TV manufacturers sell your watch history, Apple does not.
True Also tv won't get many updates as compare to apple and/or android tv
I'm an overall major Apple customer because of this logistic.
The frequent cut away edits are a bit distracting in your video..but otherwise I liked the content and thanx for the information..❤
Noted, thanks!
I think Apple TV is definitely the best streamer. I do recommend having access to another platform, whether it be the internal OS or Firestick or Roku as well. The reason to have something else as well is that often streaming services aren’t consistent with their content from device to device. For example, the Fox Sports app on the Apple TV does not support HDR while it is supported on Android and Firestick. Despite the program info on the Amazon show Reacher saying it offers 4K Dolby Vision, many episodes on the Apple TV are only showing in SDR while I get 4K Dolby Vision on Android TV and Firestick. This was an issue with the Rings of Power series as well. Another example is that Peacock does not support match content on the Apple TV. So for any 4K Dolby Vision content you either have to force DV settings on the Apple TV or just get the automatic DV on Android TV or the Firestick. Regardless, for pretty much everything else the AppleTV is the best device, and its gigabit Ethernet connection is nice to have as well.
I have the same issue with Prime. Reacher started out with DV on my Apple TV 4k and then in SDR. Same issues with some other shows. It's really annoying to have to switch over to my Firrstick 4K.
Yes nice to have a 1 click action devices ,Why not use computer for streaming?
Amazon has consistency shown how much better it could be on Apple TV through my various face-offs. Meh. Hopefully their fix their stuff someday.
I do have two apple tv’s as well, however Tv apps also used at the same time, LG and Sony Tv apps are decent, unlike Samsung…
I used the Apple TV 4k box, it’s just run smoother and seamlessly with my other Apple products. A no brainer.
Nice!
I finally convinced my mom to get an AppleTV. EVEN SHE can tell the difference...
I heard apple tv devices are nice but i don't have too much problem with my lg tv and the apps on it. But I'm glad that device wirks for you though
Nice!
I have 2 non-smart TV’s and 2 first generation TV’s. I don’t plan to get a smart tv, especially since both of mine are still healthy. I hope when it comes time to replace my TV’s that I can still find dumb TV’s for sale.
I think it would still make sense to get a smart TV. Not because of the smart features, but because non smart TVs will be too budget oriented, hence you can be certain there will be a lot of cost cutting. Maybe they wont implement arc/earc. Maybe they won't keep dolby atmos/vision support etc.
If you own a Samsung QD OLED you are missing out not using Apple 4K TV 3rd generation hardware to output HDR10+.
I don't think anyone supports HDR10+ as a output as well from a well known company.
Don’t you have to have specific HDR10+ content? I have a QD Oled and I just watched Reacher and Rungs of Power on Amazon Prime in HDR10+ both through the internal app and a Shield TV.
@TomCamies I think the apple can force everything as hdr10+.
Yes amazon looks great in hdr10+
I haven't had a chance to try out HDR10+ yet since neither my current TV nor projector support it. Hopefully in the next upgrades.
I'm revamping my TV game...switched from Xfinity to RUclips TV. I also use Disney Plus and Prime. I am in the market for a TV streaming device. Sound and picture quality are important to me. Also, I'm not a gamer. Considering those things, why should I buy an Apple TV 4K over a Chromecast 4K w/Google TV?...big price difference.
100% Apple TV, IMO, especially if you're in with other Apple devices or services. I use RUclips TV and really like it.
@@Techthusiasm Everything I use is Google/Android based...with the exception of a pair of Airpods I have. Do you believe that I would still see an advantage with Apple TV 4K... considering that I am completely out of the Apple ecosystem?
In that and if you're not buying/building a library of content with Apple, you might find more synergy with another device. But the streaming reliability overall is still tops on the Apple TV. Or even consider going neutral with a Roku. Shield is another option, but I believe they don't have the RUclips TV app?
The reason why I use Apple TV box is because TV operating systems really really suck. They are organized in such a convoluted way with all the crap they stick on the screen. Samsung had a decent screen and the remote was real nice but the stupid LG operating system has such a crappy Remote called the magic remote. Just do something simple and things would be so much better but they tend to really muck it up. Plus the dac on the TV are not helpful to the sound quality and it's better to run everything through a AV processor. Smart TV speakers can be pretty good one used and this is the only thing good about these TVs except for the screen otherwise the operating system generally sucks really bad. I'm still trying to figure out LG when I have to use it but that really happens so, but it really really sucks really bad. And finally put all the settings on one screen rather than let us go searching around the menu to set something. The screens are big enough you can accommodate all those settings on one big screen rather than searching through a tree of menus which really really really sucks each TV is different which really really sucks
Maybe try Regular Android box not android tv. Witch can be done too for simple app of columns and or rows of apps. Just check to see box specs if haves all audio & video formats.
I watch everything through the Apple TV app
The first reason was a very first world justification for the device 😂 having an inconsistent home theatre is a very niche “problem” to solve
This hobby the whole channel represents is just first world entertainment, but that's OK.
@@Techthusiasm that’s true, yes.
My bigger question is in this economy what career do you have that supports all this on top of kids?
I work in tech. 25ish year career in software development. Been in management for some years now. I got lucky happening into and then working hard to succeed at an insanely great company for the last 17+ years. Nowadays, I try to fund all my tech stuff with the channel's business though.
@@Techthusiasm I applaud your dedication and hard work 👏🏻
It's a very personal one. I have 2 Sony A90j 83 inch in the home theater and Sony A95l 65 inch in the living room and for me the consistency and simplicity it's to use the TV app, which by the way give me picture and sound quality as good as Apple TV box. A lot of movies and TV shows are offer in HDR without Dolby Vision on Apple TV 4K vs Dolby Vision on TV apps. Sony TV have all the same apps available on an Apple TV and Amazon Prime, Netflix, Dysney are accessible with the push of a button on the controller. Also Sony have the best quality streaming platform available the Sony Bravia Core with 80-120 mb/sec and DTS/Imax Enhanced content.
When you have the same make of TV models in multiple spaces, then using the TV apps still gives you UI and control consistency, so that's a solid choice.
You spend all this money on these TVs and they run like hot garbage.
I got an Apple TV for Christmas and it’s amazing how buttery smooth it runs. I also love using my AirPods for late night viewing.
The edit 🙄
Hmm?
These reasons are superficial, not so important
What would be an "important" reason to you?
I have the lastest Apple TV 4k but many Apps have problems from time to time. Prime dont play Reacher in Dolby Vision. LG OS app all fine. Disney+ caused Audioproblems. Last i cant change the language because the Cursor disappears. More often the Dolby Atmos Track be silent. I must restart the Apple TV to solve the problem.
RUclips often dont show HDR.
Maybe Google or Amazon sabotage the Apple TV from time to time. But for me is a mix experience.
yes true check for updates. Also maintenance like clear cache and power off yr modem/router for 5 minutes. Tvs are limitative to updates and storage.
Reacher is definitely not in Dolby Vision. I’m not sure about what LG is doing. Maybe a setting somewhere?
Reacher Season 2 has DV. In LG WebOS Prime Dashboard stand DV. Apple TV app only HDR. But Apple TV switch only to SDR. Disney+, Netflix is HDR and DV correct.
Amazon fails to deliver a bit on Apple TV. It's an Amazon problem though, not Apple.