How to avoid dropping your motorcycle...like me.
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2019
- This week on MCrider we look at some common reasons why riders drop their motorcycle and how to avoid it.
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I had a near drop when coming to a stop light. Went to put my foot down and my boot lace got caught either on the peg or something. I sways tuck my laces in now. Fortunately the lace gave way just before that point of no return and I was able to save it. It took all the strength I had in that leg (which isn't much admittedly) and so I was lucky. My heart skipped a beat though. Immediately pulled over and tucked the laces after that near debacle. I'm sure I still looked foolish none the less. 😀
Awesome video, on point for slow riding skills. ‘Back in my day’ (before fuel injection but during ever-present common sense) I test rode every bike I ever worked on, both before, sometimes during, and always following service. I usually hand-delivered all service work.
Anyway, it occurs to me now, that rear brake adjustments AT THE PEDAL are not always easy nor quickly accomplished. Still, rear brake pedal position CUSTOM-FIT FOR THE RIDER remains critical to best results for slow speed performance as well as higher speeds. Proper pedal height provides best accurate, speedy access to both the brake pedal and/or the roadway.
Riders must include frequent high performance maintenance standards to this system, well beyond merely checking for a braking light. Ride safe, always. 🎢
As soon as you learn not to drop your bike 100 different ways, you'll find the 101st.
When you do drop it, stand back for a moment before doing anything. The bike 'aint gonna fall any further and the damage is already done so nothing to be gained from rushing to pick it up. Think first.
Can vouch. Dropped my bike the day after I bought it and frustratedly hoisted it back up. Barely noticed the point where I stopped pulling it and it started pulling me the other way, but luckily 230lbs of me was enough weight to keep from breaking the _other_ mirror lol.
When the bike falls you get a boost of adrenaline rush seeing it fall. It helps it get up. But yea it both bad and good.
@@NatsumeKonno Absolutely a great tip - as I descibed in my comment, the one time I've dropped a bike, I felt like my chest was going to explode. I was shaking from adrenaline and should have caught my breath before trying to get her back upright.
I know... its so funny how we wanna snatch it up emediately as if it'll do less damage. 3 second rule don't apply to that one lol
Jason Swader Well You do kind be want to AVOID any of your fluids LEAKING OUT...
Everyone can ride at speed. The best riders are good at going slow. That's where control and knowing your bike comes in.
Last May I was turning at walking speed on an incline with my Goldwing when I dropped it. But that that wasn't the worst thing... Trying to pick up the bike against the incline it started to roll downhill so I had to put more strain on myself trying to hold the bike when I had a heart attack! I was flighted to a hospital in critical condition, now I have had 9 stents many surgery's and a pending pacemaker and have not had the strength to get back on the bike yet. BTW I've been riding since I was 16 when my parents made me take a CHP MC training lessons in 1979. Since then I have taught several MC classes and up till last year took yearly refresher courses and rode 24,000 miles a year with countless close calls but NO accidents! Training is an absolute must and your videos are a great way to keep up on being alert. Thanks again!
Hoping all is well with you now, Dan, and you're riding again. Best wishes.
You were lucky that those drop happened. The heart attack would happen finally but maybe in a way that you wouldn’t access to hospital or worse if happened during sleeping. I wish you health and happiness. Hope you ride again soon.
@@patriot4723 Thanks 😊
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
I am going back many years. Can you remember when we had to use maps to figure out where we were going. Anyway, my wife and I were out of state, it was night time, the icing on the cake was detour after detour. I found us in the middle of nowhere Iowa. Pitch black, looking in every direction you couldn't even see lights from a nearby town. The gas light came on, and I Knew I had 30 miles till empty. I decided to pull off at a crossroads with street signs so I could pull out a map and use my headlight to figure out where we were and hit the closest town for gas.
I pulled off, had my left foot down, right foot on the break. Had my wife hop off, went to switch to put the kickstand down and it turned out I was to close to the ditch, fell over, ditch was deep enough, that my bike was almost upside down. Felt like I got slammed to the ground by a pro wrestler.
Had my foot pinned between the head and the ground. Bike still running, it was such an awkward angle I got caught I couldn't reach the switch.
My wife kind of panicked yelled out what do I do. I said relax. I pointed, hit the kill switch.
She said, now what. Relax.
I wiggled my foot back and forth till it dug out enough to slip out. I was watching the little bit of gas leaking out the cap. My foot was killing me, between the heat of the head and wiggling it out.
Just then a pickup stopped and two guys got out. I threw out the kickstand and it took 3 of us to pick up. Picking an 800 pound bike is one thing, but from upside down in a ditch, unreal how heavy it got.
The guys told me how to get to the gas station, called the gas station asking them not to close till I could get there since it was the only one within 50 miles and closed in ten minutes. You can't beat small town people. After filling up, guy gave directions to the main highway and got me back on track. As I pulled out, he turned out the lights to the station, and that was 20 minutes after closing time.
Re 'head and eyes up', I took a master control course from MotoMark1 in NC and one of the classroom experiments involved trying to balance a broom with the end in the palm of your hand while watching your palm. Impossible. But if you look at the top of the broom, then it's easy.
Daniel Graham almost like the stand on one leg theory!! Close your eyes and do it and it’s very difficult to maintain BALANCE
age 70, I must have had a drop to equal everyone of those years. Learn to develop a thick skin if you want to ride. A good sense of humour also helps too...so who's perfect?
72 here! Same, same. 😀
THANK YOU!!! At 68 with 5 drops in the last two months (all my fault) I don't feel so bad. Keep your sense of humor.
69 years. Riding 1 week. So far so good.
@@bobburt9410 what are you riding a Grom? A 250?
@@michaelfrascati7610 Honda Shadow 750
Toll booths can be a very dangerous place to have to stop... they are covered in oil from cars and trucks stopping to pay the tolls and leaking oil... if need be I will pull up close to the basket I put my foot up on the curb if there is one... just pulling away can be like riding on ice... don't let the vehicles behind you make you hurry up... do what is necessary and stay safe
Yeah that is a trap. Fortunately here in Australia all toll booths on toll roads have been eliminated by electronic tags on vehicles right accross the country linked to your bank account the best part is motorcycles are FREE! !
The diesel bowser at the filling station is a trap too. Old spillage on the concrete and then on your tyres makes for a slippy time as well. Fill up with petrol and avoid the diesel bowser area of spillage.
Are you sure Tony? I have to pay on my bike - in NSW they read your number plate and deduct from your 'tag balance' @@tonyswheels1003
@@Bi0i0iBThanks Dean, now you got me wondering. I will check out my next monthly account to make sure or give them a call - could just be a Qld thing?. The main thing is it is worth the $$s to not have to stop - I was having a break from riding when we had to handle the coins - that would be right pain with gloves and then missing the basket thingy we had in Brizzy with the only change you had! Doesn't bear thinking about. Cheers Tony
Thank you Big Bob. Great tip. I never considered that. Once I almost dropped my bike in a car wash place on the soapy and oily cement when pulling in. I was lucky I didn't go right down though.
Yep, dropped my Honda Fury about 2yrs ago. Grabbed too much of the front brake on a gravel surface. The funny thing is, I was teaching my wife what not to do and I ended up doing it lol!!!!!!
@George Thomas, good one ;)
No ABS?
A perfectly executed demonstration.
@@0Turbox I wish I had abs
Guess there is nothing wrong with demonstrating the point you were making to her...just how you planned right?!
After 30 years hiatus I got a cruiser and thanks to you and others showing me what not to do I haven’t dropped it and certainly still am very careful
I think that most, if not all, of us have experienced the “low speed/front wheel turned” slow-mo drop! 😖
I did today. F
i did the other day lmao
It sucks!
3rd day of a new bike, trying to do a u-turn in my gravel driveway 😅
Happened to me this afternoon. It was embarrassing!
One tip you left out, especially for folks with big bikes. If it does start to go, LET IT GO. One of our Goldwing club riders severely injured his back (slipped a disk) by trying to stop it from tipping over. Unless you're the Hulk, it's doubtful you're going to be able to stop a 900 lb bike from falling.
Nooby Vapor , yep. When it’s going, it’s going. Keep your foot out of the way too. Then, gather yourself and pick it up.
Kevin Parsons - After I fail over on my Goldwing in front of many riders, very next week I practiced falling over on my own yard grass just to teach my brain to keep my feet planted on the floorboards. You are exactly right sir. At the time I worked in the oilfields, I learned quickly about heavy metal suddenly falling on the body or while its in your grasp.
Very true let it go down try and catch it not only do you hurt yourself but now you just used all your strength you will need to get it back up.
I broke 3 ribs trying to keep it from going down. Now I tuck and roll.
I dropped my new bike twice and after it happened I thought to myself, why the heck didn't you at least try to stop it from hitting the ground so hard. Thanks for making me feel better for just getting out of the way, now I don't feel so bad.
Dropped my 850Ib Indian at the Crossroads of the world , 43rd and Broadway " Times square " !! . Hot hot day with traffic , bike overheated ( V-twin ) and shut down as light was turning green . Cars,trucks honking ny drivers screaming, frazzled i go to get off bike to push to curb, yep forgot kicky stand and slowly down she went . Don't try stopping an 800lb bike ,almost pulled a hammy . Now top that for embarrassing venues folks . That's right where the Ball drops on new year's and fortunately didn't drop mine 🤣
I think you win for location.
When I was a beginner rider I dropped my bike because of the camber on the road and putting the wrong foot down
At least you didnt drop it in front of the Naked Cowboy.
I dropped my Yamaha at the Alcatraz overlook in sand in front of a bus load of Japanese tourists... they were taking pictures I said Japanese bike!! Lol
@@hughkilgour4172 yup I've done that... not a good feeling..
Second or third trip with my R1200GS, needed to pick up some stuff for my wife's new bicycle, turned left onto the pavement in front of the shop, steered to the right to straighten out the bike and used the front brake. Nice and slow drop to the right, much to the entertainment of the bicycle shop. "why don't you take the engine off, maybe you could handle it then...
MCrider, 1st off thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion for riding. I've picked up some great tips as a relatively new rider(not young but new).
The other day I rode to a very near by parking lot to practice slow speed maneuvers and emergency braking after watching a couple videos. I felt great. I worked on u turns, figure 8s, very slow turns exct. for more than half hour with pretty good success. With head held high I headed back home where as soon as I tried a u turn in my driveway I had a brain fart! I pulled the clutch all the way in while squeezing the front brake and turning the bars hard left and looking down. Instant plop to the concrete! I stood up, pride crushed by the clunk of a honda goldwing GL1200, scanning the neighbors to see how many were watching me be a bone head before picking up the bike to waddle in back into the garage! Oh well.....I live to ride another day!
Been riding 'many years' now, but the one thing I vividly remember the Safety Course Instructor said all those years ago: "If you look down... you're gonna go down"
I just dumped my bike yesterday in an empty parking lot while trying to work on slow speed turns - but as I reviewed this video I'm pretty sure it was a combination of coming to an almost-stop with my handlebars turned AND looking down! :(
Glad you're ok Ice!
Riding through grass at 3mph & too much front brake. It was nice grass, I just stayed there and took a humiliation nap.
same exact thing happened, but with left brake
Adam Goldman lol
😂
Been riding for 40 years. I can count the number of drops on one hand. One memorable incident occurred when I got ran off the road by an idiot driving an automobile. I didn't drop it, but when I went to put my right foot down after stopping... nothing there (drainage ditch overgrown with weeds). I went completely over (180 degrees, up side down) and the bike landed on top of me with my head under water. It's true what they say about superman strength adrenaline rush. Lesson: Look before you plant your feet!
I ride a bike that I can not flat foot. This is one of my lessons at every stop....to examine my landing area. Your situation tells the story with more excitement. Glad you are ok
Dang, Kurt! I am glad you were able to get out from that.
That's the first time i ever, that a motorcyclist requiring scuba gear to park!
Glad you are still with us!
Whoa and Wow! Yes, glad you made "out from under..."
Amen Brother...look where you are putting your feet down...I was not paying attention one day and while putting my right foot down, there was a deep pot hole...down I went...
When I started riding back in high school, (late 70’s) me and my friend road our bikes into town one Saturday night. As we pull up to the busiest intersection of town where everyone hung out, my partner stops his Yamaha 650, looks at me and slowly toppled over to the other side. Everyone breaks out laughing! He picks his bike up quicker than you can blink an eye and takes off like gun shot! (Boom! Gone!) I ketch up to him about a mile out side of town and asked him what happened. He confessed he forgot to put his feet down.....just plain and simple forgot!!
😂😂
I dropped my bike because of not putting the sidestand down....lol what a bad mistake.
what happened to your girlfriend? did she stop riding? she dropped her bike a lot.
Atleast he has a GF
@@Davidmaccc Actually a BF
Did the same the other day. Mind was elsewhere. I usually look to make sure it's down. Not that day.....duh!!
I did the same thing.
I usually put the side stand down right when I get to a stop. This time I didn't, I was occupied with my gloves and my phone, once I was done with that I was about to get off the bike. So I put it on the side stand, only it wasn't there....
Thank you for making me feel a whole lot better, and I am not the only one.. Thankyou for everyone who commented on their little episode... Looking at the bigger picture, this is laughable when out on the road it can get a little more serious, and that's where I hope all of us really practice, so we can always ride again... Thank you
Good topic Kevin, and one that is often overlooked. It can happen so easily. Nice job!
I have to admit I've had a few. I think some of the contributing factors have been getting back to riding late in life and starting back with too much bike, particularly a bike that is very top heavy.
Most of my drops where as a result of a bad habit I had from years of riding bicycles, which is putting my right foot down on the stop. It is natural on a bicycle, because you mount a bicycle from the left, so you sweep the kickstand up before mounting and you put your left foot in the toe clip with the pedal up and the first pedal push is on the left while you swing your leg over the bike to the right. When you come to stop, you just naturally keep the left foot in the clip and take the right one out to support the stopped bike. Of if you are going to dismount, the right leg is free to swing over to the left side of the bike and the left foot comes out of the toe clip last. Works great on a bicycle.
It is a disaster on a motorcycle. Most of the time when you stop, say at a light, you are on a road that is crowned for drainage. So especially if you have a tall, top heavy bike if you put your right foot out to support, the road on the right side of the bike is farther away from the saddle than the road on the left. If the crown on the road is pronounced enough, the bike can already be on its way to a drop by the time your foot hits the ground and with a top heavy bike, you may not be able to stop it. I have learned to always support the bike with the left foot at a stop and the problem seems to be solved.
One month old 19 road glide special. Wife watching me leave for a ride ... uneven driveway... front brake ...looked down for a split second from a stop and bike went right over. The funnier part was me trying to pick it back up, luckily just watched a video two days before. Wife had a good laugh... not me however.
I took an advanced course a few months ago (that MC Rider recommended here in DFW). The instructor (a motorcycle cop), says to keep your feet pointing more out than forward when your feet are down. This way, if you DO start dropping it, you have far better leverage, as well as the easier ability to move your foot out so as not to crush your ankle.
As always, another great rider tip. Speaking from personal experience I have successfully tried all of the dropping methods you mentioned, at one time or another. Some of them were so good I repeated them. Talk about embarrassing! Another reason to keep your head in the game at all times.
Nah, never happened. Those scuff marks on my mirror and bar end ... must have been somebody else brushing up against it. LOL
Oh, those scuffs and scrapes are from an extremely narrow tunnel!
Me too !!!!!!
Lol
nope they were from the extreme lean angles you've been hitting
Great Subject Kevin! With 50 years of riding, reading down on the comments, been there and I can't add to anything. Looks like everyone has it covered! Till the next drop, Ride Safe!
Yet another really useful lesson- thanks Kevin. I started riding again about 18 months ago after a 40+ year pause. Your lessons 1) make me wonder how I survived riding in the 60's and 2) are giving me new skills and knowledge that are making riding safer and more enjoyable. I'm the guy you mention who takes the course, starts riding again and buys a 700lb. behemoth to re-learn on (Suzuki VL1500). I'm comfortable on it now thanks largely to your lessons which I consider my training wheels.
We traded in my 05 Deuce and our 15 fat Bob for my new 2019 Street glide. My husband has 2018 heritage classic he loves the bike I love my new bike but yesterday experience tipping it over as I attempted to u turn and as I watched the segment I definitely learned that you need to make sure the surface where your planting your feet is a good surface. I planted my feet and those little gravel pits that we’re on the road was enough for me to have the front of the bike turn slightly left and to my frustrating dismay I tipped it over thankfully no damage to metal very slight little scratch on the left bag. But very frustrating. Kevin I’m learning a lot from your segments thank you very much I’ll be practicing U-turns on Wednesday!
Waited for this topic for a while!!
I just discovered this site. Fantastic advice and learning that we all do things wrong at times. Keep up the great information and informal videos
Another great MCRider video. Thanks as always.
Dropped mine years ago, exactly as you described- wheel turned, front brake, heavy bike. Down we went, there was no saving that heifer from falling once it started to go
me too..broke my ankle unfortunately
Exactly as you described! turning front wheel into staff carpark applied front brakes to slow down hit some loose fine gravel and over I go..work mate came over to see if i was ok and those looking out of the office had some free entertainment , now i always use the back brake for turning at slow speed , nothing like learning the hard way
Thank you Kevin for all the great information and your service to motorcyclists everywhere. I've been riding a long time and one thing I've learned that applies to motorcycling and many other areas in life, "Thinking you know is not conducive to learning." Every time I watch and listen I learn from you. I'm beginning my contribution to Patreon today.
Thanks Tyler, I appreciate it.
Been watching you for 2 months...thank you for giving me some great tools for this new rider
Good one! I dropped once after trying to park under a shade tree in the desert. I was quite fatiqued. I pulled up with the tree to my left, started to lean to the left, fumbled getting the kick out and the weight of the bike caught me by surprise. Lesson was dont start to lean in anticipation until your kick is secured and dont drive fatigued.
Or try a Bar Lean against the tree, if you can get close to it with the roots etc.
I just imagined falling into a cactus.
Humbling topic. I came to a stop on top of a large pavement arrow. (The kind painted onto the surface).⬆️⤴️. I was wearing boots with a good Vibram tread. Whew! I barely caught it. Great video as usual! Jon
Awesome video, I'll be watching all of those as a new rider.
First of all, thank you for posting these videos. They are so helpful
I recently upgraded from a Harley Davidson Dyna Lowrider to a road glide ultra. The bike is quite a bit heavier, and the biggest problems that I have had is slower speeds and mainly stopping. Unfortunately, I have dropped the bike about three times. After watching this video, I think it’s going to really help me. I’m anxious to watch the training videos you have for techniques on slower riding. Thank you again.
Anytime I get a new bike I immediately drop it so I know how it feels going over!😛
New subscriber. I’ve been riding for quite a while I really find you educational and give really good tips
The first couple of months I owned my bike, I would put the kickstand down like you would a bicycle. I would get off, hold the bike up with one hand on the bars and one on the seat, and then put the stand down. I can't believe I did that for so long. Fortunately never dropped it though.
thats actually how i do it while rolling it in and out of the shed,it works perfectly
I dropped mine a few months into riding due to wind... I got caught in a terrible wind storm her in North Phoenix and just and I started i gust that was easily over 40 mph hit me. I didn't have the experience to "maybe" stop myself, but I went down anyways. Guy behind me helped me pick it up and was also a rider. He said that was one of the craziest things he had ever seen and didn't think there was anything I could have done to stay up. So that made me feel a little better.
Confessing my only drops. Same place. Twice. I pull onto the sidewalk, in front of my house, going through the driveway so I can back up *into* the driveway and past my gate. During parts of the year, my giant Live Oak trees love dropping acorns. They sit on the sidewalk. Yah, like a box full of marbles.
Out of town, in my brother's driveway, I dropped my Honda VFR 800 when my right boot slipped on wet and slippery pine needles. I think it was the frame slider that caused the compound fracture of my right leg, just above the ankle. I now have a titanium rod and 5 screws in the leg, but it seems as good as new. However, the accident left me permanently nervous about stopping on imperfect surfaces.
The video and your commentary on the chap dropping his bike on his driveway “contemplating his decisions in life” had me roaring with laughter.
Great tips Kevin.
I wish I had seen this video a year ago. It would have saved me two drops. Both of them front braking really hard with front wheel slightly turned. Now I know why. Thanks so much for great rider tips!!!
In 1981 I rode my brand new Harley from the dealer to a gas station and pulled up at the pump. There were some ladies watching me so I took off my helmet and hung it on the mirror and started to dismount. Then that feeling hit me that I’d forgotten to put the kickstand down and I wrestled it gently to the ground. The laughed. I haven’t done it again since. 😆
I dropped my bike at near 0 mph while taking a U turn. And I wondered how in the blazes it happened. Now I saw this video and I have to say, thanks to you Kevin, I realized what happened..... It was the "handlebar turned and front brake applied" mistake.... Anyways, great video as always...... Thx a ton.....
Thank you for the tips! I’ve dropped mine twice because my front wheel wasn’t straight. Now I can be more aware since I know what is happening. Love your channel.
Thank you so much for thr videos that you have posted. Great safety vids. With analysis. Just effing awesome.
Thanks for sharing your story, Kevin!
Here's mine: I wanted to go for a ride, so I mounted it, put up my kickstand and wanted to start it up. Nothing happened, because the battery was flat. Unfortunately I forgot, that I had put up my kickstand about half a minute before, so when I tried to put the bike's weight on it, there was none. And there we lay, me and my poor bike XD
Some bikes have an interlock which prevents starting if the kickstand is down...
First of all... just accept that if you ride long enough you're eventually going to drop your bike. Heavier or tall bikes it'll happen faster... smaller bikes it'll take longer but will eventually happen. The saddest drop story I have was when I picked up my new Multi from the dealer there was an older gentleman who had just bought a really pretty black K1600. He'd never even sat on the bike much less ridden it and he dropped it trying to maneuver it from the left side... (got away from him to the right). I saw it happening in slow motion but was too far away to help and I felt really terrible for the guy. Scratched up the pannier, dinged the bar and mirror, some lower fairing scrapes... really crappy. I tend to avoid maneuvering the bike while not in the seat... and if I DO maneuver from the side I always lean the bike into my hip so there's positive pressure against me - don't be tempted to hold the bike balanced (even though that intuitively might seem like the way to do it).
BMW's tend to be high seated, and they are not as light as they used to be. What ever happened to the light tourer?
I dropped my brand new k1600 on my maiden voyage. I was taking the scenic route home to allow for break in when I stopped at an overlook to take some pictures. The area was sloped slightly to the right. When I got back on the bike I pulled the bike upright to kick the stand up and my right foot slipped on some gravel. I caught the bike but it was too far over and 750lbs was too much to hold. Was able to pick it up, but the damage was done. Scratched up the side bag and the edge of the front fairing.
I dropped my Suzuki c90 in the garage before pulling out to the driveway on the second day of owning it.. I was looking down and to the right but I cant remember why lol.
I'm 5"7 180 lbs.
Luckily it didnt get a scratch on it, thanks to the painted garage floor surface.
@@naminator5531 Just bought one myself. Coming off a totaled bike at the end of the season last fall, I ordered some crash bars for it from R&G Racing (through Solomotparts). I've convinced myself to leave the bike in the garage until I can get these bars on the bike.
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Fantastic advice of pure skill's on how to keep your bike up,thank you so much!!
When I first started ridding again after a long time off I pulled to my first light and was so happy I was out ridding I was looking ahead and wheel straight with a big smile on my face and just tottaly forgot to put my feet out. over I go like you did in your chair. I got up and see this guy accross the light fall over in his car laughing.
Thanks for all your great tips, I have been riding since I was a kid, and you still teach an old dog new tricks. thanks for a great set of videos, I'll try and buy your guide.
The only reason to be embarrassed in life is if you don't learn. especially from mistakes.
cheers.
Having just bought a scooter after a break of, er, 50 years, and finding Kevin's wonderful advice, I'm hooked on this website. What's made me write, from Wales in the UK, is a story that was told me years ago. This guy had pulled up lights in his car. A motorcycle pulled up alongside and immediately fell over. The driver got out to help and found the rider lying on the road . . . laughing. He explained that this was his first ride after removing a sidecar.
Great absolutely funny start. Maybe I should not be laughing it could happen to me. However I am out of breath and still laughing.
When I first ever rode I ran into an electric fence, I didn’t drop the bike but the fence dropped me.
Nathan McIvor bet that was a shocking surprise
A short but energizing ride.
Tex I was only 8 so it was a good thing I wasn’t charged up!
George Porteous my nickname became bat flattery
lol
My drop story might have a few good teaching points, so I will share...
My wife and I were two up on my ST1300 enjoying a great trip down the Blue Ridge Parkway. It was the end of a long day and we got off the parkway to fuel up. After getting fuel, we heading back to the parkway. The entrance was a short, steep ramp with a stop sign at the top, When we came to the stop, the bike just started over and quickly got to the point of no return.
I think the tip over was due to :
Being tired at the end of a long day.
The steep hill caused the bike to stop sooner than I was expecting.
Having the handle bars turned in preparation for the right hand turn at the top of the ramp.
Luckily my wife had the instincts to jump off and the only thing damaged was my pride. The ST1300 has great tip over protection, go very little damage there.
Thanks for the great video.
Love your videos! After years of experience and multiple bikes without incident, I actually dropped my 2019 Harley Davidson Road Glide Special...well, it was really a muscled set down.
I was stopped at an intersection waiting to make a left turn into a parking lot at a marathon running event. I must have had the forks very slightly to the left and for some reason, I looked down at my left boot to check the shoelaces. Dumb decision...for the bike just slowly got heavier and heavier and I set her down, unable to muscle her up.
No damage, just the embarrassed ego jolt from having a passing driver help me pick her up AND a few photos taken by others who saw her fall.
Thankfully I had saddle bag and engine guards to n the bike.
I always try to stop using the techniques you describe. I agree with leaving her in 1st and keeping that right foot on the brake at intersections.
I dropped my bike twice today lol, once in the staples parking lot making a slow turn. The other at a corner stop sign. Unbelievable lol
Had 3 drops over the years, no real damage just embarrassment. Worst one was setting off with the disc lock on🤬🤷🏻♂️. Bought a reminder cable the very next day😁
Dang. Didn't every do that again I bet! Glad you didn't get hurt.
Jesse Fitzgerald
Haha, no not yet & it’s been 4 years.
Still time though🤭😬
Haha! I’ve done that before now when a guy was staring at me - I went to set off with my lock chain still attached around my wheel. Man it was embarrassing
Thank you for this video. It came up this week on my feed less than 24 hours after I had my very first dump at a stop sign, the road curving to the right and banked down to the right side. I see everything I did wrong in this video. Practice time after the ribs stop hurting.
I’ve done #4 a number of times... on my Gold Wing, my R-6, and even on my dirt bikes. Great advice man! Keep it straight.
At a busy intersection in Midland TX back in 96, a car had just dumped its load of oil from Western Auto no replacing the oil plug after an oil change. I came to a stop prior to the puddle but still put both feed down in oil and did the freaking splits and rolled off the bike. Now completely coverd in oil I couldn't get enough traction with my feet to get the stinking bike back up...... that was fun.
busted my tail using the front brake,had it turned and flopped over,embarrassed the crap outta me,still not over it,but getting there.felt like the whole world saw me.keep front tire straight when using front brake at stops,dummy!i tell myself this now.musta been deaf before.thank you kevin.
It happens to all of us eventually. Glad you are OK.
My Wife and I dropped our Bike last week for the first time after riding for around for a few years. We have a Harley Road King we bought two years a go and it's much heaveier than the Yamaha V Star. Did exactly as your video shows, came to a stop with froint wheel turned and applying front brake. I somewhat knew better, but it as a slow drop, and some nice guys helped us right away. I did remember to put the kick stand down before setting the bike back up. Also thanks on your instruction on coming to a stop using the rear brake, this expalins a lot. Look forward to joining your website, thank you!
Kevin, been riding almost a year now, did everything right according to you and a friend's advice, bought gear, a cheap honda 600 that was older, which i learned on. Just bought my first harley and dropped it in the kroger parking lot over the weekend. Huge shot to my pride and ego haha. still don't exactly know what i did, but i'm pretty sure i had the wheel turned still after backing from the parking spot. How ironic i get on youtube to see this video. Your videos have been an incredible help to a new rider like me, and I wanted to thank you. I'm constantly using your advice to practice my skills. I'm an Air Force NCO and father of four, practice and safety definitely puts my wife at ease. Thanks again.
Joe F.
😞 I would tell my drop story, but I can't swallow my pride just yet Kevin. 😁
C'mon @Toby H >>> now you have to share! >>> could not be as bad as dude @ 01:52 lol
1:52= a few too many 🍺🍺🍺??
I had just purchased my new bike, had it delivered at my local dealership, was in talking to the guys at the store they're all telling me how beautiful it is and I need to take good care of it... Drove over a chunk of ice and dropped it right in front of the glass doors.
@@pacopetepnw3434 Thinkn' bout it. 😁
Your are brave to tell that story !@@DavidReagan
More wisdom from MCrider, thank you Kevin, developing good habits is what it is about, the more I practice the better I get and more fun it is! Happy days. If you wear good clothing the low speed drops hurt less but your pride still stings as I did recently, falling of at about 5 mph, a caring pedestrian asked if I was ok, I thanked her and said it was just my ego that had taken a bash.
Thankfully in 38 years of motorcycling I’ve fallen only 3 times. Two falls were while I was completely stationary! I simply lost my footing in gravel. Luckily both times were offroad and out of the danger of traffic.
Love your videos, Kevin.
I would like to say that your videos are awesome and your training is awesome. I recent dropped my bike after picking it up from a friend of mine house in front his house. Iwas staring at the ground and didn't have head up. Unfortunately my friend was recording me and it was so embarrassing. I will use your training as I await my msf course. Thanks for your knowledge and experience. Keep up the good work .
Had the brake disk lock still on the bike when I took off. Huh...they work pretty good for keeping a bike from going forward. Who knew?
Wow...and I thought it was just me..😗. I put engine guards on my Vstrom as a farkle; but they sure have come in handy...uh, more than once.
Thanks everyone for sharing.
Thanks for the first gear tip, I never would have thought of that.
As always, very informative and entertaining. Good job kevin
One major reason for stationary drops is pillions dismounting when the driver is not ready or the pillion has not been properly instructed in the correct procedure.
I saw my neighbor drop his Harley in his driveway one night. I'm pretty sure he had been drinking. That's a pretty scary thing alcohol and riding don't mix.
You don't believe the customers at "Biker Bars" are drinking coffee do you?
Comment posted 7 months ago. Yeah seems about right. Your neighbor is no longer with the living is he?
Hi Kevin. Excellent article, to encourage good habits, and not bad ones. I dropped my bike when we had to park awkwardly at work. I got through the gate ok but my rear tyre caught in the gutter when usually it didn't get caught. The bike went 'south' at very slow speed and very embarrassing. Usually engine compression, when it's stopped, prevents the wheels from moving too much but occasionally when parking on hills I'd use an elastic band to hold the front brake lever pulled in. Peace
Oh I so nearly dropped my bike in a petrol station (gas station)
I did the splits and just saved the bike. Much to my friends amusement.
I had grippy bike boots too but diesel on concrete is worse than ice!
Please please everyone be aware of tiny diesel spills at the pumps.
Great light hearted video Kevin. Top job.
Oh you missed one out. Lots drop bikes while cleaning push forward from wrong side and stand pops up. Doh
Yesterday I was cleaning my chain and I dropped my Kawasaki z1000. I had it on one of those stands where you can roll the back tire. I was behind the bike turning the tire and it fell over. Luckily nobody saw me drop it and there was no damage to the bike
Speaking of embarrassing moments... Arriving at work as a security officer at a local Mall, admiring a gorgeous Harley next to me in a motorcycle parking area made me forget to lower my kickstand. I realized the kickstand was not down when after attempting to dismount the bike and realizing there was no kickstand support felt caused me to have to lower the bike to the ground after passing the lean angle of no recovery. Two ladies had to help me raise the bike back up. Absolutely embarrassing. Luckily the two ladies were available and the incident was not recorded on the malls' security cameras. After sharing the incident with friends, I've acquired the the nickname ..."kickstand". My Springfield weighs @830lbs. I've learned not to admire other good looking bikes while dismounting my own.
Thanks for sharing, Kickstand. 😉
The lean angle of no recovery....lol!! Been there.....
@@The63chicky Oh yes... Just have to do it ONCE... and you'll never do it again...lol
Can’t lift your own bike? That is embarrassing having two women help you.
@@Bigtexbbq True... At the time, I would have appreciated the help from 2 cripple crabs without crutches!!!
HI FROM THE UK.
Wish I had seen this topic yesterday .
Today I turned into a parking space on my Triumph Trophy 1200 with a little front brake and handle bars turned to the right ,came to a rolling stop front forks came up down she went. Biker helped me stand it back up lost a bit of coolant and broke indicator cowl so got off lightly.
Thanks for the advise cause now I know what I did wrong. EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!
Killer stunt work, dude. i needed that today. thanx
So what motorcycle driving school does he work at? This guys great
Next week you should have a video about picking up the bike after you drop it
Great video doing a great job like your one on the abs right on the money keep up the good work you are helping lots of people
Cheers from New Zealand
A great video I've been writing for 41 years but it's still good to get a refresher I've not had any embarrassing drops myself I nearly have on gravel but one that is worth mentioning is when you've got somebody on the back of your bike and you come to a stop tell them when to get off i've nearly dropped the bike by somebody on the back try to jump off as soon as the bike stops instead of waiting until I'm ready for them to get off when the bike is soundly in the position for them to dismantle just one I thought it was worth mentioning have a great day 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Yep dropped my carbed 883 trying to run the fuel out. Right in a uturn guess what?? Yep. Fuels gone! And down we go.
After 4 years riding, I dropped mine for the first time in the supermarket car park. Used a disc lock on the front wheel, got talking to someone, forgot. Rode off and bang. Man down. Damage wasn't too bad, just my pride. Sh*t happens.
I use a disc look that makes an audible alarm tone if it recognizes a moving while locked. So it would have been triggered as soon as you try to sit on your bike.
yeah after riding myself for 3 years its kinda still easy to mess up,cars are stupid proof so little you can do wrong there(on modern cars that is) but if i mess up i just ignore it and move on
Once again a nice video Kevin. I was in an accident in May and I truly believe watching you videos helped me survive. My bike was totaled and I was injured although not seriously. I did drop my HD Ultra on several occasions. Twice with a passenger lol
Hey kevin great video !
Had almost dropped my st1300 when leaving a paking lot because of uneven pavement .Slowly was leaving a parking lot and had to stop for traffic and tried to put right foot down and the ground on that side was a few inches low and bike leaned over to right and was almost unable to hold bike from going over .
Wow that wakes you up !!!
So watch for uneven road .
Tnx Joe from buffalo ny
Yuup. Here's my drop story:
I pulled into a station to fuel up. As I stopped, I noticed the most gorgeous gal across from me gassing her car. I sat ogling her out the corner of my helmet for a short time, and I'm guessing you know where this story is going. Yuup, forgot to put the kickstand down! Lol
I was young and riding a sportster. I was so embarrassed, adrenalin kicked in and I stood up that sporty like a toothpick.
Had a drop or 2 looking at a female!
justmyself1000 when I did a (car) advanced driving course here in UK, we were told “remember Triple C - Crumpet Cancels Concentration”. It’ll do it every time.... Les
I had handlebars turned to right on off camber slope and dropped my bike.
44 years old, planning on buying my first biker soon. Learning allot from you.
Thanks Kevin for your helpful information !
just bought a Harley deluxe and as I was leaving the dealer I turned to the right, low speed and grab the front break just a little but that was all it took, went down like a rock. What was really bad was my salesman and a tech were watching. They helped me get the bike up. I managed to gather my wits and was able to leave without too much of a red face. Tom West
With my wife on the passenger seat, I pulled up to a Wendy’s.
Turning left into the parking space, I braked w the front brake while the front wheel was turned left.
Down we went.
My wife was amazing.
After tumbling down, she put both feet on the saddlebags, pushing while I, back to the bike, gripped the bag bar and handlebar.
Together we got that Ultra back on its feet.
(Now my wife loves to tell how her husband dumped her..)
😆
Hi Kevin....love your channel....here's my one and hopefully last bike drop experience. I own a 900 kawasaki vulcan custom. Last year at my brothers garage I was preparing to store my bike there for the winter...anyhow as I was going to get off the bike my brain suddenly for a millisecond forgot to put the understand down...Oops...as I dis mounted I as always got off and just let the bike go cuz yes the understand will take over.....well I was on the garage floor with my bike laying on my left leg...thank God my brother was there to pull the bike up enough for me to get out from being trapped...And yes I am totally getting a crash bar as soon as I can afford one. I will always remember my understand now since certainly that experience could of been worse. Love your channel......and keep o riding!!!! Its by far the most rewarding experience in traveling on the roads.
Currently live in FL. Learned to ride in FL. MSF course here always said to make sure the bike is in neutral when parked. About to make my first cross-country trip (outta flat FL) so the comment on first gear is about to send me down the rabbit hole of looking for tips geared towards elevation changes (riding/stopping/parking). Thank you for your content.