Jehovah's Witnesses Aftermath Episode: Thoughts and Comments
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- Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025
- Season 3 of Scientology and the Aftermath has now begun with a vengeance. In the first episode, Leah is highlighting the abuses and crimes of the Jehovah's Witnesses. The JWs are a massive, worldwide destructive cult that have been investigated and it has been proven that they hide pedophiles in their church and break up families through their cultic shunning and other horrible activities on the same level as Scientology. JW activist Lloyd Evans and I talk about his impressions of this first show, what it was like to participate in it and the JW's destructive practices.
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My wife who passed away 2 years ago was raised a jehovah's witness and left about 10 years before I met her. She told so many things that she had to endure and its good to hear people speaking out against them.
Tony Albano ... I’m so sorry for your loss. Best Wishes! 🌺
@@janetr1633 thank you.
I'm so sorry to hear about your wife. I'm happy she got out and lived her life free from the cult.
I'm sorry for your loss Tony.
@@MrCouchIncident thank you and even though she got out she was never truly free from them. I've literally had to pull a gun on some of them to make them go away. When ever they found out where she was they would be at the door 3 to 4 times a week.
Thankyou Chris for sharing in our elation over the show exposing the dark underbelly of the JW org. I really liked how you said that not everything in these high control groups is bad, but that the good stuff doesn't negate the bad. When the JW hierarchy continues to refuse to acknowledge the abuse it makes those who've been abused shout louder. Here's to shouting at the top of our voices! Thanks to Leah and Mike and all those wonderful brave people on the panel!
Lloyd, congratulations buddy! 🎉 This is a huge recognition for your story and your channel.
Was absolutely shattered by the fear and isolation the children have to suffer. Great work!
Hey guys because of what last night program, I sent the GB my disassociate letter . I have been a non JW for 20 years. It felt so good
Awesome man. That's cool.
Rock on
That's awesome! Good for you. Welcome to your freedom
George Brito congratulations!! Love it! Only been 3 years since we woke up.
You're not the first and you won't be the last. When Jehovah starts his destruction he says at ezk.9: 6 that he will start in his own house doing away with all phony jw, then go out into the world to do away with the rebellious ones.
YAY! Former born-in JW, here. Loved the show. It was such a validation of the reality of what it is to be raised in Doomsday fundamentalist religion, and live the life of a JW. So good.
I wonder if Leah will now do a spin off series. There are a lot of groups that need looking into.
That's for sure.
Hamish Downie She should look into INC, (Iglesis Nah Cristo) originating in the Philipines, who have a million members in the States and more worldwide They are militant, violent and crazier than Scientologists.
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She definitely should do an in depth show about the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
You could find negative things in every religious group and secular organisations.
Chris, you are amazing. Thank you for this interview with Lloyd. Please let us know of anything we can do to encourage A&E or others to dig deeper into the abuses within the JW organization.
I'm a never-in and so saw the Leah Remini show with fresh eyes. Trust me, the JW organization came across as creepy and cruel. Starting out with a clip of Stephen Lett looking and sounding very Marshall Applewhite-esque set the tone and it was a journey into crazy town from there. Every clip of JW leadership after that brought memories of historical bonafide criminal-level cults (think Gerrit Losch = Jim Jones). The editing was flawless, contrasting between leadership saying dont go to college and the lady living in a tent. Between leadership praising the children who refuse blood and the real story of heartache after the ladies little brother died. A rock was turned over last night and the world got to see all the ugly squirming evil underneath. It was powerful.
barbjoz63 ... stephen lett is straight comedy.....
Wow! I have been trying to figure out who Lett reminds me of! You are SO RIGHT! He is a Marshal Applewhite doppelganger!
Oh you would have loved moses u couldn't understand him because he studdered hard to understand a word he said yet jehovah didn't take to kindly to aaron his brother and Marian his sister trying to userp his authority. Nu.12:1-3 and verse 10
News flash=breaking news. Leah remini reminds me of jezebel and john cedar judas. Guess what? You are not the first to expose j w. That title expert exposer belongs to none other than jehovah himself. It all started with adam and eve, he exposed them and sentence them to death.ananias and sapphira. Also was immediately sentence to death. Jehovah sees things that are going on now that was going on with his chosen people before.everything thats done in the world is naked and open to his eyes. And guess what?? Whether it be his people or adversaries. He will take care of all, rest assured it will happen. In his own due time he will cleanse this earth from one end to the other. Jer.25:33
@@ernestdooley6409 how weak minded you have to be to not only believe and give yourself to this cult, but to actually post this idiotic, brainwashed comment. You do nothing for society or the human race.
My EX hair stylist is a HUGE JW believer/activist. She volunteered to drive me to and from my Breast Cancer Surgery 2015 which was a kind thing to do. However when, in pre op, I was asked to sign that I accept a blood transfusion, if necessary, she did a total freak out. Her argument that she never realized I would be OK with that, or that it was a possibility, I had lured her into SIN.. Good grief.. Why we no longer speak. Meanwhile she is a raging (literally) alcoholic
Glad she's you Ex-hairdresser!
My goodness I would never impose on another's conscience like that!
it is what they do
Yeah, her aim was to convert you to being a Jehovah's Witness, and she thought she was half-way there already. Their anti-blood-transfusion policy wasn't there from the beginning; they picked that belief up from somewhere right after WWII. So, they went 60 years accepting blood transfusions (although they were anti-vaxxers for much of that time), then flipped their policy. It's probably caused more JW deaths than any other non-natural causes. Some estimates run as high as 10,000 JWs dead over the 70+ years they've had that policy in place.
This one in particular has quite the reputation in our small city- shes a violent, nasty drunk
Destructive cults: running out of places to hide. I love you internet.
Jehovah hide??? Are you serious?? He says at ezk.6:7 that those slain will fall in your midst, and you will have to know that i am jehovah.
@@ernestdooley6409 are you aware that the JWs are aware that the name "Jehovah" cannot possibly be the correct pronunciation of God's name??? They have a big, long article on JW.org that says as much..........and even mention that the correct pronunciation is probably more like Ya-hoo-a .................and then mention that they are not going to bother to change their names to Yahooa's Witnesses as it might cause confusion. Huh??? Lies upon lies do not create God's Organization here on earth!!!
That Jehovah's Witness special was so emotionally charged. I'm glad the information was made public. However, watching it made me think about how my actions over the many years I was an "active witness" contributed to the pain and suffering of others. For what? A bunch of calloused, irrational, controlling men? What a fool I had been all those years. Wish there was a way to sincerely apologize to all those I shunned or preached to. Hugs to all of you who have escaped, or are trying to!
Always great fun to have Lloyd on. He is hilarious and as you are, brave to speak out.
Its so awesome that they making programs about it and make it public so people can get educated about what's going on. :-) thanks for a nother good video Chris
And next needs to be Christianity and their zombie Jeebuz who probably sleeps in the basement of the Vatican
Thank you to your both!!! I am so amazed that we had this opportunity to share out stories and help create validation for those hurting yet in isolation. For bringing out the actual abuse and to open others to awareness. Lloyd a very special thank you for being a lead in helping arrange this and provide Leah and Mike with the confidence that the show could be done with accuracy! Leah and Mike thank you for be willing to advocate for another cult and trusting us to come share our stories to help another group of people who have suffered atrocities from a manipulative mind set!! Thank you Chris for this well put together piece that answers many, many questions that we are all getting!!! Keep doing what you do. Thank you from Shannon Rowland
You were awesome. Thank you for sharing your story. It really mattered.
It was an EXCELLENT show! They covered the main evil policies that Lloyd taught me about. I watched it again this morning. Big fan of both of you Chris and Lloyd!
It felt like I was watching an old friend on tv- proud of you guys! And thanks Chris for bringing us the real tea as usual 🙌
I have watched both of you and you are great at what you do. Leah and Mike were able, with the help of the contributors, to consicely expose another distructive cult. I would like to watch more interviews of former members telling their story. 😊
So happy this organization is being exposed & a huge thank you to ALL who participated! After being a born in, 4th generation & out for 25 years, it was still so emotionally draining! Many tears shed 😰 I hope this gets us one step closer to getting our families back .
For anyway one who hasn't watched the Jehovah's Witnesses Aftermath,the material covered was intensely tragic.
Awesome video!
Many thanks to Leah and A&E Team and all of the brave souls for telling their stories!..WT will pay dearly for their harmful policies that have caused so many heartaches and broken families!
I admire both of you so much and thank you both for your work. I know that you have helped so many ex-cult members of many cults (not just your own) as well as those who may be contemplating joining one. Terrific job! Grateful for your knowledge and sharing.
Many thanks to Leah and Mike for doing this show on jws. Great job Lloyd!!!! I watched the show twice and yes I cried hearing some of the stories told on the show.
I found it at “other” outlets. It was a powerful episode and I’d be happy to subscribe to A&E to watch the rest of the series and similar work that they do. I’m really happy for Lloyd that he’s getting the word out and the group that was on the show was a great sample with well expressed experiences. I was in tears. My sister and her family are deeply in trenched in the JW cult. I cried for the losses that my nephew and nieces experience daily and the life they could be living. Thank you Lloyd and Leah and mike and all the contributors. Thanks for what you’re doing too Chris. I’ve been watching Lloyd for a while since the “three apostates” videos so I’m heartened to see a community of people concerned with destructive cults and sharing whatever resources they can to expose the destruction from these groups. Thanks again
It was a very informative show. I especially liked the clips of the officials of JW spouting off their policies and procedures. I think that Leah started an awareness of other cults and I have been fascinated by the other cults featured on A&E.
I watched the episode too. Great one. And I must say. Some of the elders featured in the episode look fucking creepy.
I don't think there's a normal Governing Body Member in the bunch‼️🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
Well, because they are creepy. Stephen Lett (governing body of JWs) is a creepster on another level.
It is an organization that has probably done more child molesting than the Catholic Church per capita, just that the Catholic Church is much larger and more public.
sylkelster
For sure. I got the creepiest chill down my spine as he spoke and it got worse when he was talking about people “tickling your ears and no one loves you” it just creeped me out! I posted it on my instagram and it creeps me out every time I see it.
I was a JW for about a year, maybe two. I decided I had to get out. All I knew,at the time, was that they were demanding too many hours of my life and telling me to condemn anyone who rejected "the Truth". I could not feel good telling anyone that they were going to Hell, as I don't believe that is my decision. I started smoking when the elders kept wanting me to go home and think about it or whatever. I am very grateful. Thanks!
Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe you go to hell if you do not become a JW.To them hell is the grave.They believe all non-JWs will be destroyed in Armaggedon
Italian Vaper I left after my husband committed suicide after a committee meeting. My mom was a supposed anointed until only the GB I guess can have that privilege. Let's just say it didn't fit their narrative with everyone partaking.
Sad thing is I started smoking so they'd leave me alone. My mom begs me to come back and quit smoking. I'll never go back. There's no love. If I suffered it was always at the hands of these people. I've experienced first hand the Pedophialia abuses and cover ups. It sickens me that my family is still in this Cult Culture. No one is ever there for them out of love, now if money is involved they're right there with hands wide open.
My parents had a so called brother suppose to be fixing a Rolls Royse totally refurbish job. He's had the car for 13 years, it's no where close to being touched. They gave him $25,000 dollars to redo it. My parents are up in years. When they pass as we know will happen because they have health issues. My brother and I whom are Not JW's are going to expose this man for his fraudulent scheme towards my parents and the congregation who enables him to continue his fraud against any in the church. If you know anyone who works at refurbished automotive in Arizona claims to be a JW watch out. Especially if they're sick and elderly people. He steals from them. I've seen my parents so worked up over the fraudulent practices of these people they're in tears, and the elders do nothing. He should be behind bars. That's where he's gonna be when we catch up to him. The criminal abuses of these people needs to stop! I'm glad they're being exposed. Stay strong, the truth when a spotlight is shining on it will always prevail.
@@marmackk jws believe that the wicked will be destroyed because thats what the bible says not just non jws. And w/jws they dont know if theyll all make it. Only God knows who will be destroyed.
@@liselottevincent352 JW's believe that the wicked equate to non-JW's.
"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
@@marmackk it says jws , anointed and great crowd. 3 different groups of ppl, not just jws
I was lucky enough to get a copy of the show yesterday and it was certainly worth the wait. For people who know nothing about the Jehovah's Witnesses and all the abuses, this will be an eye opener.
@Paul Charles some people have posted Facebook but also on dailymotion.
What is the name of the show? I would love to watch it. I was born and raised a JW and I left when I was 42, it’s been a little over 6 years now and I wish I’d left sooner!
@@TracyLeaBeauty I think they just titled it Leah Remini - Scientology and the Aftermath - Jehovah's Witnesses special. Should still be doing the rounds somewhere.
Destructive cults come in all shapes, sizes and belief systems.
Do the JWs have a whistleblower line of any sort, for their whistleblowers to ethically go to, if their internal reporting lines are unsuccessful?
Chuck Beatty - No, they don't!..If they say anything against the Governing Body (ruling class of 8 men that speaks for their god).. they will be considered an apostate, and they will be shunned!!..This includes friends and family!
Sad, but true!.. I was raised in the religion and just "woke up".. It is a nightmare trying to deprogram!! 😢
I never knew the JWs lived like Amish as far as shunning the outside world.
Yeah its kinda counterintuitive that they go door to door.. They came to my door the other day and I told the young lady all about the child abuse cover ups.. She HAD NO IDEA.. And the Elder looked very disappointed that i was telling her. I even said "I know your not allowed to research but look it up"
@Kevin Willis So grateful you are out of there, but my thoughts are with you if you had to disassociate with your family and the pain involved. Namaste
The adventists seem similar. They don't go to movies, dance, music, jewelry, television, etc. I sympathise, it has to be rough.
@@samuelkeystone JW's actually birthed from the adventists.
Sam K I was in the world wide church of God or Herbert W Armstrong, cult ...25 years yikes that is a long time to be totally So much immersed in such betrays .. We were shunnned too, so much is the same ...Maybe Herbert got all his info from the J W .my children never had Easter , Christmas, Hellooween
Just needed to give a bit of background as I understand about this life that I thought was truth ...
I ask anyone that when a teen comes to anyone's door for the first time to see what it would be like too get candy on a day that was so forbidden called Halloween and have fun and is rejected , by the person giving out the Candy by saying something like ...
" your to old for Halloween, they again are betrayed by another adult " the teen has been rejected by society, exactly like the cult says you would be..stay here within the truth in the church we are the only ones who will love for you
. It never leaves you ,being in a cult , it is a remembrance that you begin to think Religion is an destructive organization, ( yes it is )! The the cult says let's collect tithe ' , they want nothing to do with The joy of Christmas , valentine day , Easter ,all,forbidden birthdays is forbidden facts to control anything BECAUSE ...these fun days take away from the money , that the leaders wants you to spend your money on the church which is them , not you as maybe you have 4 to six kids , that makes it more difficult to the congregation if they spend their hard earned money on themselves ..so a rule is to make everyone follow that the elders , deacons , priests, ministers , leaders have more for themselves by informing the 10 % tithe rule plus more on holy days , on church sanctioned days ... and no Absolute " man made holiday Accepted so rulers in these organizations they are very secret and if don't obey them you are shunned or disfellowshipped , marked as an apostate Because you did not follow the Cult rules . Abuse is rampant , child abuse , beatings , sexual abuse all hidden when spoken about , The abuser gets to stay and the one telling his OUT ...anyone who have not ever been in a cult have no idea the the pressure as a human being to conform to this is barbaric , yet we voluntarily went because we wanted to be good to people and learn .
When you get in a destructive group , you are nor shown the true colours at first it's yeh yeh , people come welcome you , them you learn more bizarre rules ...wow I have gone on and on ...
Send this to Chris Sheldon Leah Remimni ...
Blessings to all who are true to themselves . Sharlene WP
I've watched the episode twice now. Heartbreaking.
Today I messaged one of my older sons and suggested the leah show on Jehovah's witnesses for their dad to check out. He woke up during our marriage and left the Religion first. I didn't leave till after we had divorced but I told my son how happy I was that their father and I didn't end up raising him and his brother in it. I also asked him to thank his father for waking up basically because not only our boys are freed from it but my next three children are now. I may have not understood what he was trying to make me aware of at the time but I do now.
Brilliant interview, really enjoyed it. I was touched by Leah Remini's genuine interest and concern. Thank you.
I was never in a cult and never really religious beyond what was drummed into me as a small child living in an aggresively Catholic country with catholic extended family (I am a non-religious Jew) . Having said that - I am fascinated by cult survivors' stories. I am so impressed by many of the ex JW RUclipsrs/activists! Lloyd and Cliff in particular are AMAZING educators, well spoken, intelligent, warm human beings. I've watched a lot of their videos and now this show. I applaud ALL of you. Your courage, determination and kindness despite what you've gone through.
So happy to see you guys after the phenomenal show by Leah and Mike and A & E. Chris, I first watched Lloyd on your channel when you three apostates (including Jonathan Streeter, the ex-Mormon) did a few shows that really woke me up and made me hungry for other cults to be exposed as you were doing with Scientology. I feel so proud of you both and I hope that this is just the beginning of light being shined into the darkness that still holds so many captive. Also, I have such respect for the participants who were very brave in coming forward - I was literally reduced to tears. Thank you so much. I'm hopeful the Mormons will be next.
I was raised in the Methodist church but these topics intrigue me. I’m so glad y’all are exposing these cults. My question is, could they not take their tax exempt status away. I’ve watched Leah and Mike from their first show and hear very little about God in these cults. Go after their tax exempt status and watch them fall! The abuse and the separating of family is horrible. Thank you for all you do!!! I’m also horrified at the Mega Churches (like David Taylor) leaders that live like Rock Stars. I’m learning a lot by following you all. Keep on these cults and bring them down. I can’t imagine going through what these ex members have gone through. Best Wishes! 🌺
Janet Reisenwitz I don’t think tax exempt status is based on the concept of God though?
Lawofimprobability - Exactly!..Here lies the crux of the matter! 💯
I don't understand why they are tax exempt as they call themselves an organization and not a church. I know of no charities they donate to.
firstsando .... They fought hard to get their organization classified as a “church” in order to get the tax exempt status. It happened after the death of L. Ron Hubbard. Probably a better exclamation can be given besides mine but through watching Leah and Mike, I remember the clip of them celebrating the exemption status. I doubt they give to charities either but they are building a massive empire due to having this status. Not sure if that helped but if you google it, you can get greater details.
firstsando ... I personally think of this as a cult instead of a church. Just finished (and passed along) a book written by the niece of the now leader. Her name is Jenna Miscavige. The book would break your heart. She was separated from her parents at a young age and worked side by side with other children at a ranch that she considered a work camp. Although I grew up in a traditional church, I’m intrigued at the horrible life these people lived. Only hearing their stories after they “escape” these cults. It’s so tragic. Reminds me a lot of North Korea where you’re unable to speak your thoughts, your food is rationed, separated from parents, chanting L. Ron Hubbard’s name. I mean the similarities are crazy. And there’s too many to name here. There is no such thing as free-will in Scientology. 🌺
Absolutely fabulous interview. Thanks for all you do, Chris!
thanks for this Chris. Great chat. I'm an ex JW, out for over 20 years. I found the show to be highly accurate and very emotional. Leah, Mike and the team did an amazing job.
It’s on HUlu from what I understand! Love you and Lloyd! Loved the show I learned a lot and I have been following Lloyd because of you Chris! It was fun recognizing some of the Watchtower guys from Lloyd’s channel! I hope this helps wake up the JW world!
I checked Hulu earlier and didn't see it. Hmmm. Have you found this Season there yet?
Oh I see you just posted too, sorry. Bit if you do see it there, please let me know!
Yes, I checked and Hulu has it. Thankyou
@@joijoi8599 I can't find it! How did you search? Argh!
Oh it's on Hulu With Live TV
Thank you both for all you do... giving a voice to a silent majority ... your work really has an impact 👍🏻👍🏻
This is what woke me up so very grateful❤️🥰😘And then I started watching Lloyd Evans thank you so much for all you do
I love coming to your channel for more info after watching s&a . You rock!
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I have been influenced by the JW's growing up as an unofficial member....meaning i went to meetings etc with my aunt and uncles but never converted.
A few years later i became christian in a non denominational church and now don't go to any church but find it so hard to free myself from the shackles of belief.
When I first woke up from religion I couldn’t watch enough Christopher Hitchens videos
Dario, give it time. Recovery takes a while. There are a ton of great channels on RUclips that helped me tremendously when I started waking up. You happen to be watching a great channel now! Chris's channel has helped me and I am grateful for his efforts. Peace.
Dario- if you get a chance a good video for helping to get over the concept of hell/fear that religions instill go to:
ruclips.net/video/Wgj65-EfmoA/видео.html
It’s by a guy named 43alley.
Dario- that’s because indoctrination is so effective. It keeps you mentally in when you’re physically out. Keep researching and give yourself time through this transition.
@@Jupiter_Crash ml
I had the strangest feeling watching this JW episode of Scientology and the Aftermath...
My mom was a devout Catholic and my dad was very driven towards his career as a physician. Her story mirrors the story of one of ex-JW's moms from the show, up to the point of suicide.
The episode itself was amazing, loved the story, one can almost feel the hours spent researching the subject. Great work.
Thank you Chris for interviewing Loyd. I’m an ex JW and discovered you when Loyd interviewed you. Amazing how that works. I was mesmerized watching all the A&E Scientology series that Lea documented. I did not know the over reach that Scientology had on its members. Then as I learned more about Scientology, I was struck what a brave woman Lea is and I was moved by Mike. Then I realized so many similarities within both Organizations. Thank you again Chris for bringing more light into the plight of the JW’s via Loyd with this great interview. ❤️
My husband knows that I was raised as a JW and that I have a strong and painful history because of it...he didn't understand how deep my wounds were until I told him in detail what happened to me...it was hard to do but I got it all out...he understands me a lot better and it's brought us closer...I want to start a support group for those who have been traumatized by this cult...so that we can be able to lean on each other for strength and give others the courage to walk away...
Universally Favored a support group is a great idea. where u from?
@@krissykatportal I'm in Virginia...
❤I had heard about this video done by an ex Scientologist about JWs. I finally found it, and a way to watch it. It was brilliantly produced. I hope it reaches a wide audience.
I’m a former JW and I really appreciate Leah Remini and you helping bring the issues with JW to light
For anyone that missed the show,A&E has an app that you can log onto by using your cable provider.💟
Please keep interviewing people and have it before or after the Leah Remini and Mike...You are helping so many people
Fascinating 2 hour show. I grew up in it until age 17ish. It was just my mom that was into it. I can absolutely say that even from my memory, there was not one bit of hyperbole or misstatement in the show. Ironically, my mom named me medical advocate and indeed I had to tell the doctor "no blood transfusion" even though the doctor said she could die. I respected her beliefs but came into my own. One coincidental note: My attitude toward holidays is exactly as was described...I have no vested interest in any of them. Not to say I eschew them, but there's no enthusiasm. lol..and I left 45+ years ago. Excellent show!
I'm reading these comments while listening to "Say Something" by Pentatonix, and it's bringing up so many confusing memories that are finally making sense.
Thank you for a wonderful commentary. In the early 1970’s my mother was being persuaded by a family friend that Jehovah was to about to destroy the earth. She started taking us to Kingdom Hall, unbeknownst to my father. He caught me reading one of their generic looking publications & ended that right on the spot! 1975 has came & went & when I would talk Witness’s it seems that the younger ones had no idea about 1975, some denied it or minimized it to a few people who thought that destruction was about to come. Be not deceived, for many will come in my name......
I was so happy to see you, Lloyd! Greetings from Croatia! :)
Pozdrav! If you're interested in attending a meet-up over Christmas, let me know! :)
Thank you so much, but I'll be away from home for Christmas. But I do hope that one day I'll have chance to meet you! :)
Nice follow up of the aftermath, it will be interesting to see what comes next.
I loved the show! Great video too, thank you!
I think it's great to look at other cults but I hope it doesnt take away focus from her original goal:taking down scientology. They need as much focus as possible. I hope Scientology doesnt think they're off the hook because Leah is looking into other groups.
13:52 good question. I too asked a religious academic if the other "new religions" or religions have departments like Scientology's "Office of Special Affairs", where Scientology does elaborate contrived and crafted "Handling Programs" which designate using people to go after Scientology's "enemies" and does JW have the same type of contrived department which does similar engaging members or private eyes even, to attack the JW "enemies" ?
Chuck Beatty No.
I can’t wait to see it! I Love Leah!
I'm really glad to see that Leah is addressing the JW Cult now. She did such an excellent job exposing Scientology (as you do also), and it's good to see her start to branch out to discussing other dangerous cults as well. Hopefully it will eventually include Mormonism.
My only concern though, is that there is more and more in today's society, a growing distrust in any and all religion. I would hate to see this grow into a movement of "exposing" religion in general.
Excellent job Lloyd and Chris!! And Chris you are absolutely right-an A&E series about jws!!!! Can you both imagine the number of people that could wake up as a result-the families that you could save, the families you could reunite! Maybe a series like Leah and Mike in having a partner to work with Lloyd. Each week you could feature like 2 new stories of ex jw’s experiences. Maybe we could get a petition going! In the 3 short yrs since my husband, sons and I got out of the jw cult, I am still amazed that so many many people have no clue about the real story behind the jws! So much needs to be told, like you both said, we just scratched the surface! For example in this political climate, many people aren’t even aware that jws cannot vote!!! Thousands and thousands of adults who qualify to give their voice and yet because a cult tells them otherwise, they are forbidden to exercise their RIGHTS. A DISGRACE! Totally dishonors the women, and minorities who cleared the path, who gave their lives so that we could participate. So glad we woke up! Thank you guys!!! Awesome!
I can't wait to see this. Any idea when it will air on Hulu?
It makes all kinds of sense that there are people assigned to monitor apostate material. The organization has to warn their people on specific subject material even subliminally in order to tighten control of those still in. They know active members go on certain apostate websites and constantly warn against it. Yet it still happens. Thank goodness!
I live in the UK and missed it. How/where can I find it online?
If anyone has a mirror/link, please share.
I’m so sorry about what happened with your family Lloyd. That is awful.
Loved this interview.
What is the name of the show on the JW’s? Or do you have a link? I was a JW for 42 years and left a bit over 6 years ago. I left everyone I’ve ever known and have a mother and sister who don’t talk to me! My mom and sister drive past my house to go to meetings & service!
Leah and Mike have a platform to inform and expose a larger audience and educate viewers about the abuse that is going on in the Organization. 👏
I’d always loved Leah Remini & her book is amazing. Before watching the season 3 premiere episode on the Jehovahs Witnesses I really didn’t know much about them (& I love religious/cultural studies). I assumed they were like the LDS (Mormons, which I knew a lot about) but boring because they didn’t celebrate holidays. Little did I know... Leah’s show made me dive down a JW rabbit hole on RUclips & I’ve heard story after story. It’s incredible how an organization can be so truly horrendous but appear to be so innocuous.
Chris Show Lloyd one of the OSA "Handling Programs" and see if JW does anything like one of the "Handling Programs" which are online for viewing.
Unfortunately I've not yet been able to see it - but I intend to at the first opportunity ; ))
I have read the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Child Abuse and the stuff about the JW's with their infamous "Two Witness Rule" was even more confronting than most of it.
Good interview.
The JW special was really powerful. I have a lot of admiration for the folks who appeared on the show and shared their stories. Particularly, those that shared their stories of sexual and domestic abuse. I was really shocked and horrified by a lot of what was revealed. Like the series in general, I think Leah and Mike did a great job of making sure the focus was on those sharing their stories, and I also appreciate that they emphasize that an organization's unusual beliefs aren't a problem necessarily (all religions have beliefs others would call bizarre), but it's the behavior of an organization that matters.
Is it possible to see the JW documentary ....where is it to be found?
PLEASE I NEED A LINK to the Leah Remini JWs program - is it not online somewhere???
I had to go to Amazon to view it, but it was such a great episode. A little heart wrenching and sad, but overall an excellent production of a life in the cult. I just watched another video about a former member that found out his sister that drank herself to death was abused, along with several other girls who committed suicide. So Leah needs to focus on that side of things in all organizations.
Sadly I don’t think that anything really did take off after the After Math’s episode on JW. I know we all had high hopes that more and more interviews,articles & shows would pop up on this subject.😔
If the GB won't send someone to defend the organization doesn't that tell you they're guilty? Of course telling the world your story would be cathartic. So many hurting, abused people are out there who need to be validated. This is very positive.
How do I watch this in the UK please? Thanks
My wife and I want to watch the show, I’m a Christian and she’s a jehovas witness. Is there any reason to think she’d feel disrespected after watching the show
If she is going to offended by criticism of her church and it's leaders then yes.
She will be torn. I grew up as a j.w. I left 20 years ago. I always have this fear of being struck down by God because I have been blasphemous. I have been through years of therapy, and i am still not okay. If she is an active witness, she will hate it and be torn.
Does anyone know who did the translation of their bible? I ask because the GB claims to work in translation of the Australian commission and he only went to the 9th grade. Reminds me of the blind leading The blinded.
I found a website that had a transcript of one of the Jehovvahtranslators who had claimed he was fluent n Hebrew .It was an early court case against the Jehovah's and in this man's court testimony he admitted he did not know basic Hebrew,they are a fraud
Wish I could watch the show. I have Hulu, but this is one that is not available.
On a totally different note i had a thought and wanted to run it by you Shelton.
Isn't one of the problems of exposing religions/cults that they will actually cause them to grow or at least make the believers even more fervent believers because they will be told that these shows are now a proof that they are under persecution because only truth is attacked?
I know it is not truth but from my years around religion and studying it and being a believer i know that is how my train of thought would be.
Both Scientology and the JWs are well enough known already for extra publicity not to help them.
Yes, both use the persecution claim as part of their theology. They would do that anyway, it's part of cultism to have clearly defined enemies.
The inconvenient truth is some fanatics will never leave cults no matter what. There will always be Flat Earthers, it's part of being human for some of us to be crazy. We are reasonably convinced however that we are rescuing a lot more people than are being confirmed in their paranoia.
Can you guys do a video to clarify the differences between a destructive and non-destructive cult? in fact why not come up with a different name for a non-destructive cult just so we don't get confused when you talking about these differences.
Lloyd Evans around timestamp 2:00: "This exposure has never happened happened before / is the big exposure we ever had" ( I am paraphrasing). There have been multiple documentaries, witness interviews, and exposure of abuse and the practice of shunning all over European TV in the last decades. A quick Google search came up with a dozen high-production value docus in German TV alone, some are available here on RUclips or TV media players. (links below). There are British docus, French ones, Dutch ones....etc. Lloyd's statement gives me the impression that the TV audience finally gets an insight into this particular cult thanks to Leah Rimini. I don't know how I have to take that but I find it a bit - irritating. It may be true for the American audience, I can't tell - but there are many producers and ex-Witnesses who went very bravely public on TV before this show. Some links: "Shunned for Eternity" ruclips.net/video/GfSzh_qYKYo/видео.html Again on the practice of shunning " I was a Jehovas Witness" www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Planet-Wissen/Planet-Wissen-Ich-war-eine-Zeugin-Jehov/WDR-Fernsehen/Video?bcastId=12994052&documentId=35777416 Inside the lives of Jehova's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/jcVhV2X3-BM/видео.html The Kingdom's Dirty Secrets (Canadian TV) ruclips.net/video/_AJPHGMt9JI/видео.html
That whole disfellowship and shunning of your friends and family by this religion is just bizarre and awful. I can’t believe when you went to straighten up your parents yard Lloyd, your parents just drove around the neighborhood until you were gone and don’t know their grandkids. That just breaks my heart. I just can’t believe a so called religion would do that and still consider that Christ like or Jehovah. Watching that sermon about dis fellowship by one of the governing body leaders just made me sick to my stomach. And Stephen Lett’s sermon “tickle your ears and no one loves you” Marshall Applewhite esque sermon downright scared and creeped me out.
I still get chills when I see it on my Instagram profile where I posted it as “the creepiest sermon and preacher I have ever seen” especially the “tickle your ears” that not only made me laugh but it scared me as well as “no one loves you”. Those 2 sentences just scared me worse than any horror film villain.
Chris Shelton, please add a link to Lloyd's channel.
Keep up the good work!
I watched the A&E special « Cults & Extreme Beliefs » in mai/18 . Being rank&file witness for 33 years I was ignorant to the child sexual abuse cover ups. Completely disassociated from .ORG within days! I could no longer support or defend them, then did extensive research(out of the box)! THANK YOU A&E, Leah,Mike, Lloyd,Chris,all apostates for your tireless work! DID US PROUD! 💜 PLEASE CONTINUE❣️ many more NEED TO KNOW! 🇨🇦
Where can I watch the show?
Where can I see that episode?
Mormons next..
Great video thanks mate
Chris you should do a story on the Warren Jeffs “FLDS” so called religion that’s just as bad as Jehovah’s Witnesses and Scientology” that one does exactly what those religions do. I also think Leah Remini should do an episode on that one too.
Season 3 of Scientology and the Aftermath now In the first episode, highlighting the abuses and crimes of the Jehovah's Witnesses. CAN I SEE THIS ONLINE SOMEHOW? Chris will you put up a link? Or can you upload it yourself? PWEASE PWease! I can't track it down anywhere . . . Bless you :)
No, I won't. I don't have one. Google is your friend. It's been posted on Dailymotion and RuTube.
@@ChrisSheltonMsc Thanks so much, got it! So grateful, bless you :)
You guys can watch the show on Rutube.ru
Its really strange to actually see first hand the governing body in a way I've never imagined before. Before they broadcasted I guess I always thought of the governing body as some sort of great OZ behind the curtain so to speak but to see the arragance in them trying to act out on TV as if they are truly sincere doesn't come off naturally. It comes off like a commercial.
Random Person the analogy of the GB and the wizard of Oz is quite interesting. The great Oz is exactly the projection they have worked so hard on perfecting. It is so awesome that Leah and Mike are pulling the curtain away to reveal the truth about those creepy men. It’s ALL been smoke and mirrors and it’s so sad that so many never find their way out of the mental maze they are trapped in.
Hi Chris
Always enjoy watching your videos.
Haven't seen Leah's show yet, only watched the My Scientology documentary and other interviews on RUclips.
What I want to say is even with out the religious elements, there are groups of people out there who run organisations along cult lines.
As a youngster I got involved with a power mad couple who ran an organisation that was concerned with saving the planet. Little did I know before me and my partner who came along while they still trying to convince me to leave home and live in one of their properties, there had been 3 other young adults who while living in the life they offered in their home had gotten so low that each of them had committed suicide. And I can quite see how that would have happened. Although the fundamental issue they represented is valid and really important, the way they seduced young people and once they had them cut off from family and friends then turned on them and made them feel so sad and upset, it was criminal. They used and abused people until the person was so depressed and felt over whelmingly helpless that they took their own life is despicable. We made a middle of the night escape to get away from them and managed to stay away.
About 20 years later I bumped into the wife quite by accident and she started to try and pull the same nonsense tricks on me and I thought no way mate, through my young adult years you stole away my right to have any fun with my peers, their rules were so strict that they authorised which contraception we could use, I don't have any photos of those years because of them. Thank goodness my then partner and me found each other as otherwise I'm pretty sure they would have been capable of driving each of us individually over the edge. So it's not just religion these types use, it's anything that pricks at a person's consciousness and makes them aware that the world is an unfair place. If you are reactive to that fact then you are a target because that makes you easy to control is what I'm guessing.
I was born into it at 6 years old and I need blood at one time and my mom said no . I was told do as I say and or you can leave . So I stayed until I was in my 20,s then when they realized I didn’t want there church that’s when I went through hell . My mom said if you don’t want my church you don’t have a mom then . So I had to decide. Moved out and was on my own so I adopted my own family .
Had some jehovah witnesses come to my door today. Never had that happen