I just want to make sure THIS IS SUPER CLEAR: Even though this video is longer than Ruby's video, Curious Cat DOES NOT speak more than she does. A minute of her video was removed due to copyright. Ruby still holds 1st place for the most dialogue but our kitty friend here was indeed very close.
You can tell that Robbie Daymond is using his elements of Goro Akechi from Persona 5 for this, and given the unsettling nature of the character, it fits well
I called this fucker being a villain the moment I hear Robbie Daymond speak. Also them being the Cheshire Cat and how it was a neutral entity and Rwby making its villains messed up versions of fairytale characters.
Agreed. One of the best villains this show has had, and on top of everything they said, the Cat has a really compelling and sad backstory and motivations when you look at it, plus the fact they haven't committed nearly as many atrocities as Cinder and Salem have on Remnant helps make them remain even more sympathetic. A shame that awful writing did the Cat in in an unsatisfying manner, just like with Watts and Torchwick.
He was my fave character in the show. Even if his time was short lived, he was a very fun character. He was giving Happy Chaos vibes from Guilty Gear, he's voiced by the same guy too.
They really should've done that instead of making the whole of V9 sans toxic-Bumbleby a pointless filler volume. Salem is a witch, the Cat is a cat, it would've been a beautiful combo; plus their missions would align if the Cat seeks to get their answers on the Brother Gods' abandonment by gathering the Relics to summon them.
This cat was a mysterious and terrifying character. But I do like his final form because in my eyes, he was a small kaiju size savor-tooth tiger and his death in the end was shockingly terrifying. Ps the VA did a great job of being the curious cat
If the cat wants to know everything, I think it would be hilarious to see him try to steal the Krabby Patty formula. He'd do a way better job than Plankton and probably succeed on his first try.
0:20 "If you get angry and break them, they might not ever come back." Here's a really sad thing to consider, based on that quote and based on how the Cat later places emphasis to Team RWBY on permanent death being an alien and unnatural concept to Afterans outside of the Jabberwalker's power. What if, when the Cat murdered Alyx in a rage for breaking her promise, the Cat didn't know until AFTER Alyx was dead that humans don't ascend and die permanently if they're killed without Ever Tea?
The Cat's twist is by far the most unexpected thing I was not anticipating in this entire volume, and trust me, I've been expecting treachery and deception and unexpected death ever since I finished watching Game of Thrones!
Curious cat's death is tragic, but deserved. Also holy moly is it a very specific kind of brutal. But yeah, I'd say he probably COULD'VE been redeemed, he still had a purpose in the world of the ever after, but he stopped caring about his duty, his purpose, and could not change in the way that other Afterans could. He was flawed and in a way, he was uniquely "human" in a world of constructs, which, as we see with Jaune, must be a truly maddening thing indeed. Neglected, betrayed, manipulated, abandoned, alone. Ultimately though, this was the only end that could've awaited him, and maybe it was the more merciful and short-lived form of torture he could've been subjected to with RWBY's departure. Because the alternative was remaining alone, knowing that Neo's lack of attachment to remnant meant that he could never get the answers he so craved. Knowing that humans may not arrive again in the EverAfter for millennia more, if at all. Death might've been a mercy, albeit a very painful one.
Until now, this was my favorite volume of the entire series, and partly it's because this cat. I would have liked for Curious Cat to ascend. Was a fascinating character, and possibly the one I like the most, along with Watts and Ozpin.
15:05 - 15:19 Honestly, alike Ironwood's words in Neo's illusion, the Curious Cat's words sound like an apt description of themselves more than the people they're projecting towards.
I haven't sat down and watched RWBY in years, but I still listen to the soundtrack and loosely follow the plot and such. I don't have the full context for all of these scenes, of course, but I really, really love this character!! He seems really interesting and written well, his animation is beautiful, and the voice actor did a _really_ good job! I don't know if this cat will ever return later on, but I certainly wouldn't be opposed!
Like what he said. If bandersnatch does kill you won't ascend. It's pretty much I hate cc death scene. He just want to get out of ever after if he accepts Alex choice he could leave ever after and join Alex into the world remnent. Anyway crwby aren't have good writing. Their lot theories CC would return.
Even after everything, I can't help but feel bad for him. He was a good hearted soul until Alex betrayed his trust and refused to give him the reprieve from the knowledge he was cursed to crave. I don't doubt that he regretted killing Alex but then went insane either from the guilt or his curse of curiosity. Having spent so many years knowing there's more out there but not being able to find it is going to wear down on you, especially if your purpose is to learn. That's why he cannot ascend. You can only ascend once your purpose has been fulfilled. But the cat's purpose is never-ending. He can never be satisfied enough to ascend and thus cannot find peace in rebirth.
Oh, yeah! This poor Cat is very much a victim of the Brothers being inconsiderate, irresponsible dicks who run away from their responsibilities. Salem at least shares some of the responsibility for the monster that she turned into with the Brother Gods and Ozma - the Cat was CREATED flawed, then abandoned by their own makers without explanation with no way to fix their broken heart and mind as they slowly went insane over eons before Alyx finally broke the camel's back. I think it also helps that, when you really look at it, the Cat didn't even do a lot of evil at all compared to 'RWBY's' other tragic villains, so the sympathy that their tragic backstory earns them isn't watered down by inexcusable atrocities: the Cat's only known crimes are killing Alyx in a very personal crime of passion, bodyjacking and feeding one Afteran to the Jabberwalker clones to save the Cat and their investment, attempted murder of three or four humans and Faunus and gaslighting of a fifth, and the Cat didn't do anything to disrupt the Ever After at all inbetween Alyx's death and RWBY's arrival. That's a MUCH smaller rap sheet than anything most of the Remnant villains in league with Salem (including criminal assassin and terrorist conspirator Neo :P) have done.
What’s everyone’s thoughts on Curious Cat as a villain compared to the other rwby villains? He’s a standalone character with no ties to Salem and co so how does he stand out overall?
PRESENTATION!! But in all seriousness, he's a character first, villian second. That how a lot of well written characters are in the first place. Some villians sadly only get half that equation.
I theorized the cat was the relic of knowledge. Tyrian was supposed to be a host meant to be sent to ever after. Once possessed he would return to Remnant and be removed from Tyrian's psychotic body. Salem would assimilate the cat into her body heightening her awareness of the remaining relics.
They did great for V9's first eight episodes, addressing some of the MAJOR writing problems that previous volumes had, but then they went and completely ruined it all in the last two episodes: when the whole volume sans Bumbleby amounted to pure filler, the Cat got killed off in a completely unsatisfying manner, and Team RWBY's character arc of reeling from their mistakes got quote-unquote "resolved" with them reverting back to being self-righteous narcissists who didn't internalise anything learned from their mistakes.
@@ecthox-1mork909 You really need to shut up if that's going to be the stupidity coming out of your mouth. You just can't resist the chance to insult Monty's friends and the work they put in
15:05 - 15:19 Weak: Relies upon others to fight their battles and has not the power to escape the Ever After themselves. Even possessing Neo in his fight is just using another's strength. Confused: Given incredible curiosity but no true way to sate it, with The Brother Gods abandoning them without even being able to make their nigh-impossible and ever-insurmountable task bearable. Incomplete: Unable to ascend even when it reaches the Great Tree nor is it affected by it. Plus, the job that they were stuck with has left their heart broken, ala The Blacksmith's words. And it's possible they can't leave the Ever After because of this. It seems that just like Ironwood in Neo's illusion, the Curious Cat's words sound like they're truly projecting onto others.
The show and the characters act like the Curious Cat is an irredeemable monster who deserved to die screaming in terror and agony, but the Cat was one of the most if not THE most tragic and redemption-worthy villains (MUCH more so than Neo) in the entire RWBY-verse. They were a naturally sweet-hearted and compassionate being who was created flawed by a pair of childish, naive gods who didn't understand what they were doing, and after those gods abandoned them without explanation for aeons, the Cat was consumed and psychologically wrecked by their inbuilt design flaws and is still being consumed by them to the present, and Alyx's betrayal finally broke the camel's back, driving them to madness, desperation, rage and cynical self-service. The Cat has a RIDICULOUSLY low body-count, having only ever killed two people (Alyx and the Hawker) and attempted to hurt five others to further their goals, which is a lot better than can be said about Neo, Salem or just about every one of the other Remnant-villains. Plus, based on 0:20 and how the Garden episode establishes that true death is an alien concept to Afterans, the Cat was likely blinded by rage when they killed Alyx and didn't fully grasp what they'd done to her until the deed was done. AND, if you consider the RWBY Wiki's suggestion that the Red King reacted so melodramatically to failing his purpose because Afterans *naturally* get that distressed when they fail in their roles, then suddenly the Cat's madness after killing Alyx (which is the antithesis of their purpose helping others) and being unable to ever ascend for repair seems a lot more horrible, and it also becomes a lot more impressive that the Cat lasted so long after their creation before completely snapping when Alyx broke the camel's back. We also don't ever see if the Cat's sadism extends to everyone, or just the humans that they have a Tragic Bigotry towards because of Alyx's actions and Jaune's shortcomings. Conversely, Neo is a hitwoman and an established murderous sadist, who has directly or indirectly murdered and ruined THOUSANDS of lives on both Remnant and the Ever After while serving Salem's lot and her own grudge against Ruby, her abusive background is no more an excuse for her staying evil into adulthood than Cinder's is, Neo has far more control over herself than the Cat does and she chose evil at every turn, she took a far more active, direct, needless and spiteful role in torturing Ruby than the Cat's psychological manipulation, and she's also the one who Stomped Little To Death with a smile on her face. But she gets Easily Forgiven by the girl she tortured the second that Neo hypocritically forgets her "vengeance feels empty" realisation from Ruby long enough to cold-bloodedly murder the Cat out of personal spite at being possessed, and then Neo gets a reset without doing anything to atone for all the wrongs that she committed and the wounds she's left on two different worlds. And that's not even getting into how un-heroically RWBY/JNR have been constantly acting ever since the Mistral arc.
"You save one life, a hundred lives, but it's never enough. Who will save me?" - Owen Harper, Torchwood "Adam." I think those words apply to the Curious Cat being unable to fix themselves like they fix other Afterans pretty well.
Ok if the Curious Cat was the God of Light's creation, why did he turn into such an asshole? You'd assume that creations from the god of light would be good
Because he went insane. He was good and kind up until Alyx betrayed him which was the straw that broke the camel's back and he lost it. He was around for billions of years without ascending even once and most Afterans seem to ascend every few years.
The Brother Gods made the Curious Cat together from the looks of it: the God of Light breathed life into the Cat in the flashback, but the God of Darkness likely added his own bits into the design - just like humans and the Jabberwalker are made by both Gods. Besides, being the God of Light doesn't automatically make him a god of good, just like the God of Darkness has shown he isn't purely evil: both the Brother Gods are actually quite childish, petty, naive, and capable of cruelty or gratitude.
As for why Curious became so twisted, bitter and insane. They were abandoned by their makers without receiving an explanation, and then they spent entire eons trapped in the Ever After, unable to answer their questions, and continuing to perform their duties of helping wayward Afterans find their way again. But there were two problems that the Brother Gods never thought of when they made the Cat, which manifested after the Gods left: (1) Making the Curious Cat constantly hungry for new knowledge and answers to their questions: once the Cat learned everything there was to know about the Ever After, all they had was questions about the wider universe's contents and their PERSONALLY-motivated desire to know why their own makers just up and abandoned them one day to make another world, questions which ate away at Curious without satisfaction for EONS while they were unable to exit the Ever After. And (2) The Gods made Curious to be the one that helps, heals and fixes other Afterans who grow wary or mentally fraught, with Curious often sacrificing a piece of their own heart in the process, but the Gods never thought that CURIOUS would need someone to do the same for them, and Curious carried this burden alone, for eons after the Gods left. To paraphrase the words of a Torchwood character, "I save one life, a hundred lives, but it's never enough - who will save ME?" When Alyx came along after all the above, and she broke her promise at the end of her journey to free the Cat from the Ever After, it was the straw that broke the camel's back: Curious completely snapped in that moment, and Alyx's betrayal left them with a very sore outlook on humans. It's also implied at the end that Curious hates humans as much as they do because they know they're mentally damaged, and they project it onto humans.
Same. For me, they're the most sympathetic tragic villain in 'RWBY.' Unlike Salem, the Cat didn't even do anything wrong that precipitated the Brothers abandoning them, and they had no control over their mental degradation: they're basically a Frankenstein Creature with even less hope, who went slowly, painfully mad over eons because of flaws that they couldn't help and then a betrayal which broke the camel's back. And unlike Neo :P, Salem, Team RWBY, xP and all the other villains on Remnant, the Cat doesn't have thousands of people's blood on their paws: in the decades between Alyx's betrayal and the Cat's death, the total number of people that the Cat ever hurt can be counted on just two hands, which makes them even more deserving of sympathy.
I'd say no to the former. Yes to the latter if by "semblance Neo" you mean Neo speaking through the tea party guests to say "I'm going to enjoy watching you break!"
@@deadpoolchimichangas7111 I love hero saving villains trope. Nowadays we're seeing heroes killing off villain. Or let them to die. Couldn't crwby let CC ascend to new person.
@@cirnosnumberfan6449 Which pisses me off because, as much as I like Neo, she didn't do nearly enough to earn her "redemption" after all the crimes she committed, her murdering the Cat for possessing her was completely hypocritical to her "vengeance only leaves me emptier" realisation with Ruby, and she's a lot more responsible for her own life choices that led her to evil and kept her there than the Cat is - the Cat had a far more compelling backstory and motivations for being the way they are, far less agency in their turn to darkness thanks to the Brother Gods' incompetence and thoughtlessness, and the total number of people the Cat ever hurt can be counted on just two hands.
I just want to make sure THIS IS SUPER CLEAR: Even though this video is longer than Ruby's video, Curious Cat DOES NOT speak more than she does. A minute of her video was removed due to copyright. Ruby still holds 1st place for the most dialogue but our kitty friend here was indeed very close.
@@stevenkurtz2730I think you misread something, it looks like all the “her” statements were referring to Ruby.
That is good to know.
Though I wonder why this was only recommended to us tonight, 6 days later.
You can tell that Robbie Daymond is using his elements of Goro Akechi from Persona 5 for this, and given the unsettling nature of the character, it fits well
I'm convinced it was Robbie's idea to incorporate elements from his Akechi voice into the Curious Cat
I called this fucker being a villain the moment I hear Robbie Daymond speak. Also them being the Cheshire Cat and how it was a neutral entity and Rwby making its villains messed up versions of fairytale characters.
A fantastic, fun and at times scary villain. Robbie really knocked this performance out of the park.
Oh please I seen most scary villains in my days.
So did the writing team!
@@eren34558 I'm assuming that's a joke?
Agreed. One of the best villains this show has had, and on top of everything they said, the Cat has a really compelling and sad backstory and motivations when you look at it, plus the fact they haven't committed nearly as many atrocities as Cinder and Salem have on Remnant helps make them remain even more sympathetic. A shame that awful writing did the Cat in in an unsatisfying manner, just like with Watts and Torchwick.
@@ecthox-1mork909 couldn't they made a scenario where ruby reason with CC let him ascending and be a better person.
The cat is probably the scariest and best villian this volume.
He was my fave character in the show. Even if his time was short lived, he was a very fun character. He was giving Happy Chaos vibes from Guilty Gear, he's voiced by the same guy too.
Wait, seriously?
@@eren34558 yeah
Imagine if Curious Cat escaped to Remnant and joined forces with Salem.
Good gods that would've been a recipe for disaster.
it would have been a CATastrophy :D
I'm imagining they take control over Salem tbh.
They really should've done that instead of making the whole of V9 sans toxic-Bumbleby a pointless filler volume. Salem is a witch, the Cat is a cat, it would've been a beautiful combo; plus their missions would align if the Cat seeks to get their answers on the Brother Gods' abandonment by gathering the Relics to summon them.
I would have expected them to. The cat wants to see the brothers again and since uniting the relics would do that, it seems to fit the best
The cat is the scariest villain I've seen
I find the cat more unsettling, like a voice that sets off your flight or fight response than scary but I do see your point
@@sirmitey9588 CC not scariest villain. He's just broken down cat.
And a good one, yes?
This cat was a mysterious and terrifying character.
But I do like his final form because in my eyes, he was a small kaiju size savor-tooth tiger and his death in the end was shockingly terrifying.
Ps the VA did a great job of being the curious cat
You felt sympathetic to curious cat.
you mean saber-tooth tiger?
If the cat wants to know everything, I think it would be hilarious to see him try to steal the Krabby Patty formula. He'd do a way better job than Plankton and probably succeed on his first try.
14:58 Curiosity Cat: "This Isn't Even My Final Form!"
Robbie Daymond was amazing as Curious Cat
I wonder did he intentionally use the same voice he used as Akechi
0:20 "If you get angry and break them, they might not ever come back." Here's a really sad thing to consider, based on that quote and based on how the Cat later places emphasis to Team RWBY on permanent death being an alien and unnatural concept to Afterans outside of the Jabberwalker's power. What if, when the Cat murdered Alyx in a rage for breaking her promise, the Cat didn't know until AFTER Alyx was dead that humans don't ascend and die permanently if they're killed without Ever Tea?
Robbie Daymond is an insanely talented voice actor
"Exposition is terrible boring!" That was really good line.
I don’t think I can stress how much I love Robbie Daymond as a voice actor. Especially when he does this specific voice.
Honestly my newest favorite RWBY Villain.
Definitely one of my two favourite villains in the show alongside Watts (three favourite villains if we count the Apathy as a villain).
Ever after-Rwby(Cat)
Earth-Amphibia(Mr X)
Space-Tmnt(Mozar)
The Main Antagonist of "Another Worlds" who Don't be Related with the Main Bad Guy
The Cat's twist is by far the most unexpected thing I was not anticipating in this entire volume, and trust me, I've been expecting treachery and deception and unexpected death ever since I finished watching Game of Thrones!
I love that the voice actor of the cat is the same as the actor for Akechi from P5. Fantastic job in both
Akechi is voicing a talking cat. What a world.
He was the Ironwood of the season, the one everyone bounced off
Akechi as a cat is something I never thought id see
Curious cat's death is tragic, but deserved. Also holy moly is it a very specific kind of brutal.
But yeah, I'd say he probably COULD'VE been redeemed, he still had a purpose in the world of the ever after, but he stopped caring about his duty, his purpose, and could not change in the way that other Afterans could. He was flawed and in a way, he was uniquely "human" in a world of constructs, which, as we see with Jaune, must be a truly maddening thing indeed.
Neglected, betrayed, manipulated, abandoned, alone.
Ultimately though, this was the only end that could've awaited him, and maybe it was the more merciful and short-lived form of torture he could've been subjected to with RWBY's departure. Because the alternative was remaining alone, knowing that Neo's lack of attachment to remnant meant that he could never get the answers he so craved. Knowing that humans may not arrive again in the EverAfter for millennia more, if at all. Death might've been a mercy, albeit a very painful one.
I’ve met Robbie Daymond 3 times so far and have a chance for a 4rth time in the summer he’s nice I like how the cat speaks in paradox
I love this damn cat desing!!!
I guess I should've known the Cat would be a villain when I found out he was the voice of Hubert from Three Houses.
i was so surpirsed when i heard ROBBIE DAYMOND as the curious cat bc i recognised his voice from akechi…….
Until now, this was my favorite volume of the entire series, and partly it's because this cat. I would have liked for Curious Cat to ascend. Was a fascinating character, and possibly the one I like the most, along with Watts and Ozpin.
I adore his voice
To be honest the moment I heard that voice I really was wearily of due to hearing akechi from personsa 5
he turned out to be a pretty neat villain in the end.
Robbie Daymond is amazing as the cat. My favorite though is him as Dorian from CR.
Kinda braced myself for the twist considering Robbie was also the va for Hubert and Akechi, but also was hoping for just a chaotic cat
For some reason, he makes me think of that one cat from Coraline. Actually now that I think about, V9 does have quite a few similarities to Coraline.
15:05 - 15:19
Honestly, alike Ironwood's words in Neo's illusion, the Curious Cat's words sound like an apt description of themselves more than the people they're projecting towards.
Ngl the voice acting this volume went crazy
Kayn has an interesting gig here
I would've loved for him to sound a bit like Sterling Holloway tbh
I haven't sat down and watched RWBY in years, but I still listen to the soundtrack and loosely follow the plot and such. I don't have the full context for all of these scenes, of course, but I really, really love this character!! He seems really interesting and written well, his animation is beautiful, and the voice actor did a _really_ good job! I don't know if this cat will ever return later on, but I certainly wouldn't be opposed!
Like what he said. If bandersnatch does kill you won't ascend. It's pretty much I hate cc death scene. He just want to get out of ever after if he accepts Alex choice he could leave ever after and join Alex into the world remnent. Anyway crwby aren't have good writing. Their lot theories CC would return.
Even after everything, I can't help but feel bad for him. He was a good hearted soul until Alex betrayed his trust and refused to give him the reprieve from the knowledge he was cursed to crave. I don't doubt that he regretted killing Alex but then went insane either from the guilt or his curse of curiosity. Having spent so many years knowing there's more out there but not being able to find it is going to wear down on you, especially if your purpose is to learn. That's why he cannot ascend. You can only ascend once your purpose has been fulfilled. But the cat's purpose is never-ending. He can never be satisfied enough to ascend and thus cannot find peace in rebirth.
Does everyone felt bad to CC. the real Villains will be the god light and dark.
Oh, yeah! This poor Cat is very much a victim of the Brothers being inconsiderate, irresponsible dicks who run away from their responsibilities. Salem at least shares some of the responsibility for the monster that she turned into with the Brother Gods and Ozma - the Cat was CREATED flawed, then abandoned by their own makers without explanation with no way to fix their broken heart and mind as they slowly went insane over eons before Alyx finally broke the camel's back.
I think it also helps that, when you really look at it, the Cat didn't even do a lot of evil at all compared to 'RWBY's' other tragic villains, so the sympathy that their tragic backstory earns them isn't watered down by inexcusable atrocities: the Cat's only known crimes are killing Alyx in a very personal crime of passion, bodyjacking and feeding one Afteran to the Jabberwalker clones to save the Cat and their investment, attempted murder of three or four humans and Faunus and gaslighting of a fifth, and the Cat didn't do anything to disrupt the Ever After at all inbetween Alyx's death and RWBY's arrival. That's a MUCH smaller rap sheet than anything most of the Remnant villains in league with Salem (including criminal assassin and terrorist conspirator Neo :P) have done.
I still wonder if Cat was friend with Ruby or Cat just manipulated her.
What’s everyone’s thoughts on Curious Cat as a villain compared to the other rwby villains? He’s a standalone character with no ties to Salem and co so how does he stand out overall?
Well, I like him more than Tyrian
PRESENTATION!! But in all seriousness, he's a character first, villian second. That how a lot of well written characters are in the first place. Some villians sadly only get half that equation.
I think CRWBY did a fantastic job with him.
He's certainly more interesting than a bleach filler villain
Naa he didn't deserve to die he was such cool guy
@@TheOneAndOnlyJanitor. You say that about all the cool guys
OK I love him as a whole
The best villan of rwby
I thought I heard something about delicious pancakes.
I theorized the cat was the relic of knowledge. Tyrian was supposed to be a host meant to be sent to ever after. Once possessed he would return to Remnant and be removed from Tyrian's psychotic body. Salem would assimilate the cat into her body heightening her awareness of the remaining relics.
Also doesn’t Tyrian is a good replacement for Robbie’s more psychopathic voice
10:31 That cat's out of the bag. LOL
Alls i hear is sketchy Aketchi wanting pancakes
Akechi's third persona is really a doozy
Hereward?
3:09 The most important part.
I can only hear Akechi 😭
Robbie Daymond is such a phenomenal voice actor its insane
I see Akechi chose to repurpose a cat after being killed in the Metaverse
Robbie Daymond Cat got a LOT of time. But hey he's the main villain of this season.
Dont really need to see anything other than this. It covers all the important parts and is not confusing at all!
He also voiced SwaySway in Breadwinners.
I wonder why they lost the echo in their voice between episodes eight and nine.
Robbie Daymond giving us Klyntar vibes!
The cat was a fascinating villain! CRWBY did GREAT this volume!
They did great for V9's first eight episodes, addressing some of the MAJOR writing problems that previous volumes had, but then they went and completely ruined it all in the last two episodes: when the whole volume sans Bumbleby amounted to pure filler, the Cat got killed off in a completely unsatisfying manner, and Team RWBY's character arc of reeling from their mistakes got quote-unquote "resolved" with them reverting back to being self-righteous narcissists who didn't internalise anything learned from their mistakes.
@@ecthox-1mork909 Oh do shut up, you blacksun blabbering ironwood fanatic.
@@ecthox-1mork909 You really need to shut up if that's going to be the stupidity coming out of your mouth.
You just can't resist the chance to insult Monty's friends and the work they put in
@@ecthox-1mork909 I agree with you.
15:05 - 15:19
Weak: Relies upon others to fight their battles and has not the power to escape the Ever After themselves. Even possessing Neo in his fight is just using another's strength.
Confused: Given incredible curiosity but no true way to sate it, with The Brother Gods abandoning them without even being able to make their nigh-impossible and ever-insurmountable task bearable.
Incomplete: Unable to ascend even when it reaches the Great Tree nor is it affected by it. Plus, the job that they were stuck with has left their heart broken, ala The Blacksmith's words. And it's possible they can't leave the Ever After because of this.
It seems that just like Ironwood in Neo's illusion, the Curious Cat's words sound like they're truly projecting onto others.
Akechi!
The show and the characters act like the Curious Cat is an irredeemable monster who deserved to die screaming in terror and agony, but the Cat was one of the most if not THE most tragic and redemption-worthy villains (MUCH more so than Neo) in the entire RWBY-verse.
They were a naturally sweet-hearted and compassionate being who was created flawed by a pair of childish, naive gods who didn't understand what they were doing, and after those gods abandoned them without explanation for aeons, the Cat was consumed and psychologically wrecked by their inbuilt design flaws and is still being consumed by them to the present, and Alyx's betrayal finally broke the camel's back, driving them to madness, desperation, rage and cynical self-service. The Cat has a RIDICULOUSLY low body-count, having only ever killed two people (Alyx and the Hawker) and attempted to hurt five others to further their goals, which is a lot better than can be said about Neo, Salem or just about every one of the other Remnant-villains.
Plus, based on 0:20 and how the Garden episode establishes that true death is an alien concept to Afterans, the Cat was likely blinded by rage when they killed Alyx and didn't fully grasp what they'd done to her until the deed was done. AND, if you consider the RWBY Wiki's suggestion that the Red King reacted so melodramatically to failing his purpose because Afterans *naturally* get that distressed when they fail in their roles, then suddenly the Cat's madness after killing Alyx (which is the antithesis of their purpose helping others) and being unable to ever ascend for repair seems a lot more horrible, and it also becomes a lot more impressive that the Cat lasted so long after their creation before completely snapping when Alyx broke the camel's back. We also don't ever see if the Cat's sadism extends to everyone, or just the humans that they have a Tragic Bigotry towards because of Alyx's actions and Jaune's shortcomings.
Conversely, Neo is a hitwoman and an established murderous sadist, who has directly or indirectly murdered and ruined THOUSANDS of lives on both Remnant and the Ever After while serving Salem's lot and her own grudge against Ruby, her abusive background is no more an excuse for her staying evil into adulthood than Cinder's is, Neo has far more control over herself than the Cat does and she chose evil at every turn, she took a far more active, direct, needless and spiteful role in torturing Ruby than the Cat's psychological manipulation, and she's also the one who Stomped Little To Death with a smile on her face. But she gets Easily Forgiven by the girl she tortured the second that Neo hypocritically forgets her "vengeance feels empty" realisation from Ruby long enough to cold-bloodedly murder the Cat out of personal spite at being possessed, and then Neo gets a reset without doing anything to atone for all the wrongs that she committed and the wounds she's left on two different worlds. And that's not even getting into how un-heroically RWBY/JNR have been constantly acting ever since the Mistral arc.
goro fucking akechi
I swear i adore this cat i wish he didnt become evil
Proof that Akechi truly is cat coded
The RWBY animation makes my eyes bleed but as an Akechi stan I must persevere
Why did no one notice the coraline reference ehen ruby was crawling in that place with curious cat
"You save one life, a hundred lives, but it's never enough. Who will save me?"
- Owen Harper, Torchwood "Adam." I think those words apply to the Curious Cat being unable to fix themselves like they fix other Afterans pretty well.
Ok if the Curious Cat was the God of Light's creation, why did he turn into such an asshole? You'd assume that creations from the god of light would be good
Because he went insane. He was good and kind up until Alyx betrayed him which was the straw that broke the camel's back and he lost it. He was around for billions of years without ascending even once and most Afterans seem to ascend every few years.
The Brother Gods made the Curious Cat together from the looks of it: the God of Light breathed life into the Cat in the flashback, but the God of Darkness likely added his own bits into the design - just like humans and the Jabberwalker are made by both Gods. Besides, being the God of Light doesn't automatically make him a god of good, just like the God of Darkness has shown he isn't purely evil: both the Brother Gods are actually quite childish, petty, naive, and capable of cruelty or gratitude.
As for why Curious became so twisted, bitter and insane. They were abandoned by their makers without receiving an explanation, and then they spent entire eons trapped in the Ever After, unable to answer their questions, and continuing to perform their duties of helping wayward Afterans find their way again. But there were two problems that the Brother Gods never thought of when they made the Cat, which manifested after the Gods left: (1) Making the Curious Cat constantly hungry for new knowledge and answers to their questions: once the Cat learned everything there was to know about the Ever After, all they had was questions about the wider universe's contents and their PERSONALLY-motivated desire to know why their own makers just up and abandoned them one day to make another world, questions which ate away at Curious without satisfaction for EONS while they were unable to exit the Ever After. And (2) The Gods made Curious to be the one that helps, heals and fixes other Afterans who grow wary or mentally fraught, with Curious often sacrificing a piece of their own heart in the process, but the Gods never thought that CURIOUS would need someone to do the same for them, and Curious carried this burden alone, for eons after the Gods left. To paraphrase the words of a Torchwood character, "I save one life, a hundred lives, but it's never enough - who will save ME?"
When Alyx came along after all the above, and she broke her promise at the end of her journey to free the Cat from the Ever After, it was the straw that broke the camel's back: Curious completely snapped in that moment, and Alyx's betrayal left them with a very sore outlook on humans. It's also implied at the end that Curious hates humans as much as they do because they know they're mentally damaged, and they project it onto humans.
It is said on Reddit that RWBY is the 35th most pornified franchise in the world!
Please make RWBY Byt Only Jabberwalker
I feel like the Cat was a victim despite having blood on his hands (paws). 😢 I wish he’d have a redemption arc.
So do i, give cc chance crwby.
Same. For me, they're the most sympathetic tragic villain in 'RWBY.'
Unlike Salem, the Cat didn't even do anything wrong that precipitated the Brothers abandoning them, and they had no control over their mental degradation: they're basically a Frankenstein Creature with even less hope, who went slowly, painfully mad over eons because of flaws that they couldn't help and then a betrayal which broke the camel's back. And unlike Neo :P, Salem, Team RWBY, xP and all the other villains on Remnant, the Cat doesn't have thousands of people's blood on their paws: in the decades between Alyx's betrayal and the Cat's death, the total number of people that the Cat ever hurt can be counted on just two hands, which makes them even more deserving of sympathy.
Hey umm do we count possessed neo and semblance neo as neo talking?
I'd say the latter counts but not the former.
@@ImStrange_ well I take that as conformation for a future vid, can’t wait
I'd say no to the former. Yes to the latter if by "semblance Neo" you mean Neo speaking through the tea party guests to say "I'm going to enjoy watching you break!"
10 minutes gang
The Curious Cat in his final form is kinda creepy.
Interesting
14:26 can anyone tell what exactly did the cat say?
"Taking a page out of the Caterpillar's book, hm?" referencing when Herb drugged them.
reminder friends, the curious cat is nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns!
What is that noise at 13:21 when the knife drops?
Does anyone else hate that annoying cat? Because I do. Man, this cat is absolutely giving Belos, Horde Prime and Darcy vibes.
I didn't find any of them annoying. Only pure evil. Out of curiosity why do you think Belos is annoying
@@ksaweryjanowski827 lord belos was infuriating villain.
I think curious cat is not villain. He's kind victim of the gods I am right or wrong.
Like I said... They left the fucking cat unrendered
They did that as a design choice to make him look more unique
Curious cat? More like psychotic cat
He's not psychotic. He's br9ken.
@@rolando90s touché
@@deadpoolchimichangas7111 I love hero saving villains trope. Nowadays we're seeing heroes killing off villain. Or let them to die.
Couldn't crwby let CC ascend to new person.
@@rolando90s I feel like that trope is gonna be Neo and Ruby.
@@cirnosnumberfan6449 Which pisses me off because, as much as I like Neo, she didn't do nearly enough to earn her "redemption" after all the crimes she committed, her murdering the Cat for possessing her was completely hypocritical to her "vengeance only leaves me emptier" realisation with Ruby, and she's a lot more responsible for her own life choices that led her to evil and kept her there than the Cat is - the Cat had a far more compelling backstory and motivations for being the way they are, far less agency in their turn to darkness thanks to the Brother Gods' incompetence and thoughtlessness, and the total number of people the Cat ever hurt can be counted on just two hands.