2022's Best Budget CPU is Old - $78 Intel i3-10100F Revisit & Benchmarks
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In our quest to find the best sub-$100 CPU, we recently re-encountered the Intel i3-10100 and 10100F gaming CPUs. Back in 2020, these were in fierce competition vs. AMD, but now, their biggest competitors are Intel's own i3-12100 and 12100F. The recent price reductions have the 10100 series down closer to $78-$80 for the non-IGP variant (the 10100F), whereas the 12100F is currently $107. That might make the 10100F a good option for people building truly limited budget gaming PCs -- but let's benchmark them and find out.
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03:34 - Intel i3-10100 vs. i3-12100 (& 10100F)
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07:46 - Cyberpunk 2077 CPU Benchmarks
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Question, Why not the I3-10105(f)? its only more expensive by 5 dollars here and sometimes slightly more performant apparently.
I would like you to test a compressor type CPU cooling device that uses gas refrigerant like a freezer in a fridge rather than water cooling. I do know if such a device even exists but that kind of cooling in a all in one CPU cooler has got to be better than the water. I have seen 12 volt compressors for trucks air con. Thanks.
The 3100, 3300X, and, chery on the cake, 4100 :D
tbf, as I said in my own comment below, R5 3600. I mean, what else ? Superbudget on some A320 ( my Asus A320 M-K costed me 35$ )...
And its the CPU that as you 11:47 said - its still relevant ! The universal king of budget PC, probably the most beloved CPU in EU in last 3 years.
( ...and, as Steve from HWunboxed showed us, is pretty close to 5600 in games. Especialy while paired with budget GPU - RX6600XT - which is also the king of budget FPS / $ chart )
Would have liked to have seen 6700K/7700K numbers in this review since the i3-10100F is basically a refreshed version.
It's funny that all the original reviews of this part were down on it because the R3 3300X was better value at the same price...then the AMD part basically ceased to exist at all.
Yep, exactly.
Yeah, though the 3600 pretty quickly dropped to very attractive prices which when considered with the full platform costs and features kinda made anything below it irrelevant.
My theory is that 3300X mainly exist as a real SKU in developing market, and a SKU to get positive review and upsell people 3600 in other countries.
if only AMD made a 5300X that was actually competitive with the i3-12100F
was made from unobtanium
**EDIT 2: Ok, after digging a lot, it appears that B560s from ASUS, MSI, & ASRock all support XMP profiles over 2666 for the 10th gen i3. I've found builds working with Gigabyte Aorus branded B560s as well, and a user in the thread below claims support for the B560M H board as well. So it seems all B560 from these AIBs support XMP over 2666 for the 10th gen i3 CPUs. FYI - All this is pertinent to an upcoming Episode of Boost My Build I filmed yesterday so just wanted to make sure my info was correct.**
OP: My understanding is that at least some B560 boards will allow XMP profiles above 2666 MT for i3 10100. And I also believe even those boards that won't work with the XMP you can manually input the settings from the XMP profile and that should work. Here's a ASRock B560M HDV working with 3600 MT timings: ruclips.net/video/riEf9YtP8y0/видео.html
Here's a MSI B560M Bazooka XMP working with 10105F: ruclips.net/video/JUckibMFIF4/видео.html
Unfortunately I don't currently have a 10100 for any testing to reverify and it's been a long time.
EDIT: A little digging and it seems that MSI, ASRock, & ASUS B560 work with 10th gen i3 XMP over 2666. Seems so far only gigabyte B560 boards have exclusions for the 10th gen i3 parts in the memory specs, but could be undocumented support as well. But check the motherboard specs to be sure.
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@@Dark88Dragon Hello! :)
Gigabyte B560M H allows over 2666 XMP on i3 as well
@@MrSkollll Thanks, their specs only list OC speeds specifically for i5/i7/i9 CPUs and exclude the i3. But I also found evidence that the Aorus branded Gigabyte B560's work with XMP here: ruclips.net/video/R-_n8KnPqqI/видео.html . However the one I'm really interested in is the DS3H, since that one is $60. It lists the same memory spec as the Aorus Pro B560. I'm guessing if the even more cut down H board allows XMP above 2666 then certainly the DS3H should.
10100f + b460 motherboard....
See a 10600k or 10700k at a good price.... Oh I have to buy a z series board to use it properly.
Or 10100f with z 490 motherboard.... Oh look a cheap 10700k etc.... Drops right in. Saved buying another motherboard and the complete pain of changing said motherboard.
Point being you're finding good Z490 boards for not much more than a good b460 board.
The z series option has a greater upgrade path
Keeping it real with the budget suggestions. Love it.
It’s worth noting that the 10100f can be had for around $65 USD now, that’s what I paid. Compared to the $108 12100f, that’s a 40% increase in cost for a 20-40% increase in performance, further making the case that while the 12100f is the best value, a $40 price difference can pay for you PSU, or allow you to get a better GPU. 10100F is the ultra budget king right now.
not to mention you can also economize in cheaper motherboards, because DAMN, those 12th gen intel motherboards are much more expensive, and there are much more quantity of motherboard that supports 10th gen nowadays, so not only you'll get 40$ more for the processor difference, who knows, you might get like 20-30$ from the motherboard too
One of the things I really appreciate about GN is that, while for some people $20 might be nothing, for others it's _everything_ and couching their recommendations with that in mind is just one more reason I love this channel.
VS Linus Tech tips of "HEY GUYS HERE'S A 10K BUILD" every other month.
@@InvadeNormandy Linus is more for the enthusiast and whack ass builds.
Although his occasional consumer targeted builds are pretty reasonable.
There are worse content creators out there. Snobbing at last gen products and generally discouraging the budget market.
"DONT BUY THE 3050/6600 GUYS BUT A 3070 OR 6800XT INSTEAD BECAUSE THEY GIVE HIGHER FPS AND ONLY COST DOUBLE MORE!!!! WHAT'S THAT A RYZEN 5 3600 IN 2022???? IT WILL BOTTLENECK BECAUSE ITS OLD REGARDLESS IF YOUR PAIRING IT UP WITH A 300$ GPU!!!!"
@@loowick4074 that's so true. Since i don't play any competitive games, getting 60 fps on high settings in 1080p is enough for me. Nowadays 750 or so dollars could get you a nice full setup, I'm talking about PC, peripheral, desk, chair, monitor and all the stuff.
i have the 10105f, it's clocked slightly higher than the 10100, it's great for gaming. i paired it with a GTX 1650 OC, and i play Forza horizon 5 on high settings, 1080p 2x msaa @ 60fps
Totally forgot about the 10105F! Good point.
@@GamersNexus its about the same price or cheaper than the 10100f where I live. Oh and b560s allow mem ocs aswell and their as cheap as h410 in Canada at least!
@@haywire9174 Yeah same! Built a budget gaming rig for a pal with the 10105F, was a few euros cheaper than the 10100F. Supply demand and all that... I know this isn't the focus of this channel, but beyond that, 10th gen on the used market is really good value these days. Even 11th gen only relevant CPU, the 11400F, can be found pretty cheap
I paired a 10100f with a 1650S, H570, and 16GB@3733Mhz (I’m a novice at timings CL 22). It chokes on 4K60 Ultra, but I can manage 1440p with medium settings.
@@zeroturn7091 high memory speed for Intel CPUs aren't necessary, it's all about the timings. AMD CPUs benifit from high speed memory
I built a PC in January with a 10100F and it's been great. I see it as a "good enough" threshold. So far it's held 60+fps in every game we've tried, and 60fps is good enough for a great gaming experience. Going from 60fps to anything higher is a very small improvement to the experience, so there's really not much reason to pay any amount extra for it. I'd do it again in a heartbeat if I were to build that PC again.
What’s your gpu? Im planning to buy 10105f i3. And i think I’m going to pair it with rtx 3060. Will the processor bottleneck the gpu?
@@nickcastor1583 When I first built it I had it paired with an RX 6600, which is really close to a 3060. For 1080p I think it's a pretty balanced build. At 1440p the GPU was definitely the bottleneck. Now I've got a 3080 in there that lets me play at 4k. Seems silly to have a 3080 with a i3, but in most newer games the i3 still isn't bottlenecking too much at the higher resolution. Again, it can push out 60+fps, which is kind of the threshold for a good experience.
@@SasquatchComposites many thanks. You cleared everything.
from 60fps to above is a small imrpovement to the experience, AND is a huge downside for your wallet, like, i dont get why people are this obsessed to get 60FPS+ in games that aren't competitive (or where it doesn't matter that much), i was rocking with my 24fps playing zelda BOTW the first time i completed it, and it was a GOOD experience, i enjoyed every bit of that game, i didnt needed 144fps average to enjoy it, so thats why im staying with this entry level i3, and im buying a rx 550 so i can at least enjoy some new titles at 30fps.
and believe me, that IS huge improvement, believe it or not i was having fun in playing spiderman at bare minimum with 800x600 resolution at 10-20fps, i even advanced in story, but sadly it is quite unplayable, i need to get at least 20-30fps in most titles to not have a seizuren lmfao
@@NFYT when u play competitive or u ever played on more than 60 hz u just cant get back to it. The eyes and the brain cant get over it. I just so un smoove that u feeling lost without high framrate and hz
I got to build a ton of budget $400 gaming PCs with actually okay gpus with the 10100F getting as low as $70 in bulk and okay B460 boards getting a low as $60. It really made addressing that price point possible.
Edit: yes, b560 ram oc exists, but those don't commonly exist at the same b460 price point. And praising pricing is the whole point of the post.
Wow! $70 in bulk is great.
You really don't want B460, though. That locks your RAM down to JEDEC specs (low frequency and high latency). B560 lets you use XMP profiles for a big RAM speed boost.
should get b560,b460 has no ram oc capability
@@madcrowmaxwell right, and when okay B560 boards get to sub $80, they'd be suitable choices. Plus, many of the boards I would get only run pcie 4.0 in the top m.2 slot, and disable it entirely without 11th gen which is just unacceptable compared to running ram at 2666 instead of 3200.
@@joemarais7683 10th gen doesn't support 4.0 anyway. Stepping up to a newer board and getting proper RAM speed and timings even if you still won't get PCI-E 4.0 is probably worth it.
Big yes on doing budget computer builds! I'm sure the GPU would still be tricky but I'd love to see how low you could go on a budget PC while still getting decent performance in games
So good to see that a budget gaming video is even possible to make with GPUs actually somewhat in stock. Keep em coming, and I'll keep watching!
Happy to see coverage on lower end CPUs like this. I started with Sandy/Ivy Bridge i7s then stepped up to an i3 10105 to get on a newer platform. Great value for the money, if you really just want to game.
I built my parents a nice computer with a a 10100f and a old 1060 I had laying around. Works great for them.
My upgrade from i3 6100 to 10100f was crazy...massive increase in system performance at that moment
I always look to previous generations when people who are not the best off ask me for build advice, too many people don't think of others budget when recommending parts and only look at current gen.
So happy to see this video!
I used the 10100 in a build for my parents (they badly needed a new pc and decided to get something decent at least).
It's been a great chip for them (light general use, some office work).
They went from some ancient 2C/2T Pentium to this 4C/8T and from 4GB RAM to 16GB Ram) :D
With some nice new peripherals (didn't even have a 1080p monitor...) really shows the lower end stuff has some great uses.
its amazing to see actual budget options being "budget" again and not outright garbage.
It is always nice to see these revisit reviews.
Great video! After having built a half dozen or so budget type SFF builds for friends and family recently, you can absolutely get a very solid motherboard to pair with the i3-12100F for not too much more than $100 price point. Earlier in the year you had to go with the ASRock H610M-ITX (don't pay more than $120 for this part, ideally $110), but now ASRock has released their B660 ITX part, and it is selling for $120. Normally not an ASRock buyer, but I have been very pleasantly surprised by these mobos. No frills, but they run DDR4 and have integrated wifi which is nice and keep the price down. They are also super easy to quietly cool, making them ideal for SFF builds.
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Perfect video for me, I'm currently looking at these older i3 cpu's for a DIY nas build.
Just built a 10100 system for my cousin today and she is more than happy with it.
Using a i3-10105 in my home server and for the price it's a surprisingly capable chip, no complaints at all. Boards are much cheaper than 12 series too.
Thanks! I got this a year or so ago, does great.
dude you are so to the point , i like your videos💥
Making recommendations from the consumer's POV is why I keep coming back to this channel. Keep up the great content!
When I read "Old", I expected some sort of Xeon from 5 years ago at the very least. A CPU from 2 years ago may as well still be called brand-new.
Ikr. Like we supposed to buy a new cpu every year or something?! XD
It's just insane,console comes out and games are being made for it like for 7 years or more,but hey cpu old 2 years and gpu oh noooo,that is fkn old outdated change it asap,just shows you mentality of today kids.
Now i get it if you are buying parts for pc,and there's not much difference in price old vs new,you should get new (specially if there's huge performance boost) but here's the thing people still recomend ryzen 5 3600 which was released in July 7 2019,but that's not old right?
Yeah weirdos everywhere smh.
It's still brand-new unless if Intel discontinued their production.... Like Coffee Lake (8&9 gen), discontinued 1 day before 2021's Christmas.
There's so called max order date (when it'll get discontinued) and max shipping date (which is stockpiled items/production according to orders)
It's a rebranded i7 7700 with extra features mostly.
@@Spido68_the_spectator but with lower price
I think the i3-10100f is better deal on a budget than the i3-12100f simply for factoring in overall price in motherboard, RAM and ease of access. It is an amazing CPU when it was released considering it performs nearly as well as the i7-7700. It also shows how long-overdue an increased core count was on the high end.
There's less and less reason to go back and buy classic CPUs as strong as Haswell's i7s for a budget system when the i3-10100 exists. It outperforms them all handily while costing not much more, all while being new, even as those parts drop in price.
Wait the 10th gen is "old"... Guess my 8700k is ancient at this point. Honestly even though I have been in IT for 22 years professionally, and basically all my life otherwise, it still blows my mind how fast tech progresses.
I try to build a new PC every 5 to 8 years, with usually a GPU, Memory, and storage upgrade 2 to 4 years into that, depending on how fast the tech is moving. Even at the shorter end of that schedule, it always feels like I build a PC and boom, big leaps happen... But regardless of that, I still love PC's and honestly that constant advancement and growth is what I love (in that bittersweet way) about IT as a whole.
Your i7-8700k is better than the i3-10100F and worth $300+
I bought an i5 10600k and an msi z490 pro mobo for $250 on a bundle deal a year ago and its still far more cpu than I need with a 3080 running 4k.
@@Robbie-mw5uu 300 is the price of a 12700 non k .. The 8700k should go for 80 or 90 these days.
A straight decade of Intel pushing single core performance by 5-10% per generation has done strange things to the PC landscape. Software can't really progress at the speed CPUs are currently progressing because of the absurdly large install base of CPUs which are "practically the same", which all belong to people who got the idea that once you've bought a PC you've bought a PC.... and yes, I'm writing this on my 12 year old coffee-table-laptop.
Dont be harsh on yourself lol, I had a I7 4790
Seems like it might be worth it to try to go b560 for memory speed. Thank goodness Intel unlocked memory overclocking that generation.
In these type of tests it would be interesting to see how an older cpu holds up like the i5-7600k 4c/4t.
mine seems to be still holding up well on my old Z270 Gigabyte Gaming Board.Just upgraded the Ram to 16GB 3600MhZ CL16 , giving it another lease of life.
@@michaelbaldwin5953 Bios mod that bish and drop a 9900K in it.
@@Darkfiberke hello /g/entleman, how are you cooling that ford truck of a cpu?
@@aman28june just a simple coolermaster block...
@@Darkfiberke you do realize 10100f is like 5% shy of a i7 7700....don't think your 2600k oc at 5.1ghz will run any circles around it, won't even come close at all.
17:33 also, it is not only 20 dollars on the CPU but also the inflated premiums on the 12th gen Motherboards that are around 30$ more than a H510 for example. so in total between cpu and MB there is around a 50$ difference. Thanks for the video, I was planning on building an entry level PC with a 12100f + RX 6600 but I was short on budget and looking at some other benchmarks there is a 10-20 FPS difference in some scenarios with this setup since there is a change from PCIE 40. and 3.0 but that GPU does not suffer that much on PCIE 3.0. so those 50 bucks will really help to buy a 144hz monitor instead of a 75hz one.
Glad to see a revisit of the 10100f. however, pared with a b560 board you are able to do xmp. Got 16gb running 3200mhz on a 10100 with a b560. Main reason why I did b560 instead of the cheaper H series chipset.
B460 also allows XMP.
It's not overclocking, but at least you get to run at rated speeds (within CPU support) and latency.
I always appreciate the budget analysis side of PC gaming. I think it's important because I still remember when that was my price point. And I also feel like it's one of the advantages of PC gaming compared to other hobbies, as the customizability allows for integration at a lot more price points
I'm still rocking my old 6600k. It's a quad core, but it still goes hard though.
I am very grateful for the content posted.
I would like to know your opinion about the Montech Sky One case, what do you think of this case?.
I use a 10105 as both my router and NAS box. Couldn't be happier.
Happy to see GN finally fully transition to the LTT-style thumbnails
I would really love to see you guys check the 10100f & 12100f with realistic GPU options, like RX570/80, 1650/Super, 1050ti, 1060, 1660/Super, 1070, RX5600, etc. It would be super helpful for people on a budget and wanting to build a gaming system. Thanks so much for the great content.
Yeah - for someone with less experience, it would be useful to know at what point one'll get bottlenecked on one or the other, so that they don't spend "a bit more" on a part that won't help much while the other part is struggling.
The reason why this GPU is used is to make sure it's a "pure" CPU test, you can basically scale down with each tier
Eg - 80=100 fps 70=80 fps and so on all the way down GPU tiers (example numbers) GPU benchmark can give you %s
My 1070 gets around 70-110 fps on games with a 5800x
Dang you got my OCD buzzin...clean those CPUs of the thermal paste man! ;)
I would really love you guys to revisit some of the x299 cpus. they had issues in the past for sure but now that the platform has basically sunsetted i think it's worth comparing to zen 3 and alder/comet lake now that they're cheap and fast ddr4 is easy to get. they aren't a good deal now that alder lake is out but two years ago you could buy a 7940x for the price of a 3600x and x299 is worth giving a second look in that context
I'm on a 10980XE since launch. It definitely has a much better time with games that for some reason love more cores. Barely an overclock on it (4.3Ghz all core). I don't regret going X299 and probably won't be looking at another CPU until 2025. But I barely game, I'm talking about general performance and I do other stuff with it and it works perfectly, and for the few games I play, I don't mind gaming CPUs being faster, it's a difference I don't notice or care about because everything else is great and it can still game. I've had the XE and been on X299 since 2020.
The channel the good old gamer is making videos about some of those cpus
problem is X299 cpus has less than skylake in single thread preformance(IPC), and worse power saving features, so even a 9/10th gen skylake based cosnumer platform will typically send them flying for pure gaming benchmarks. Most games dosnt need 8+ cores or gain notthing from that. So lower power more efficient I5 9600/ I7 8700 and 10100/10400 cpus actually would typically make more sence, than to spend much on X299 outside of productivity. You will pay more + more in energy to run it, + get same or often lower preformance out of the X299 stuff than any (older mid-high range skylake desktop parts).
@@AdaaDK skylake-x has marginally superior IPC to skylake and some cache differences. the reason it's not good for gaming is the memory latency. and its power draw, but if it still performs then it still performs.
X299 should be avoided at all costs due to low IPC and enormous power draw, there are much better budget options available. The CPU's are glorified Xeons with not-so-great gaming performance due to mesh instead of ring bus arch.
Also to note - the 10105F exists and is currently cheaper than the 10100F. It's basically the same chip with slightly higher core tuning, though the performance difference is basically irrelevant for a day to day usage perspective. Get whichever is cheaper!
Nice to have someone spell this out, thanks!
I appreciate the effort put into catering for low end components in videos. Obviously it makes sense to use high end GPUs here to see the full performance differences in the CPUs, but I think what would also be useful is one or both of:
a) a couple of graphs of performance if paired with a price balanced GPU
b) linking to a budget build or two with what are reasonably matched components and their performance
This would give especially first/second time builders an idea of what they might reasonably expect to see performance wise if they built a balanced system. It's hard to judge from the benchmarks here if all the games used would still be playable, or if the 3080 GPU is propping up the CPU.
Again, thanks to the team for providing content which is not only interesting but actually useful in what viewers might actually be purchasing.
I'll admit to being one of the edge/nut cases that bought the Strix B660-F. I picked up some OEM ddr5 cheap and went for the 12100F mostly for benchmarking but at 5.3Ghz and 6500 Cl30 it's a little beast in games too!
They're will also be plenty used 12th gen CPUs to upgrade/bench with soon.
Sometimes the difference is more than $20 due to regional price variation, temporary discounts, availability, hand-me-down partial builds, etc.
I have no clue why but the slow zoom on the chip by the plant was really artistic? Seems like a random background but it worked great! Lmao 🤣
Thank you for including the Intel Pentium 12th gen
That really helped me in my decision making
This also shows how good the architecture jump is on 12th Gen clock for clock. Really cool!
18:22 I would love to see this. A 12-100F + RTX 3050 build would be interesting.
I think that, taking into account these CPUs' pricepoints, it would be interesting to see the differences with an equally "low-budget" (whatever can be considered low nowadays), GPU pairing to see how the margins change.
That is very impressive from Intel. The budget space is cutthroat levels of competitive.
you know what didnt age well Gamers Nexus calling Intel gen 10 and 11 a waste of sand and that PCI gen 4.0 is useless because theirs no NVME,s or M.2,s that use 4.0 speed yet that are 15gbsecond all the way up too 256gb a second and that theirs no GPU,s that use PCIexpress 4.0 either .. well guess what eat your words the 10th and 11th gen CPU,s where actually handy capped due too transfer speeds and if you get a NVME m.2 gen 4 loaded up with windows 10 and games it actaully performs better and faster and allows the chips too use their full potential very snappy and quick . imagine a i3 10100 or better like a i5 11400 with a M.2 nvme 1tb gen 4 , 16gb ram and a Z590 or Z490 plus a RTX 2060 or 3060 blowing everything out of the water Ryzen has in the 5000-6000 lineup isnt that a twist !!!! i guess you can eat your words Tech jesus you have been checkmated and are now offically a waste of sand !!!!
Finally! Here's to hoping for $500-$700 budget builds again!
I bought a 10100 for a family minecraft server back when it was new. I was pleased with it as a budget CPU + iGPU option then, and still happy with it now. (though it sucks that Intel threw the 2666 MHz limit on that generation)
A budget build showdown would be interesting to see how much FPS you will be able to get from limited build options.
Built my PC with one of these and ended up getting a 3070, works great for me and I haven't experienced any problems with any game I've ever tried. Tons of people don't NEED a bigger CPU
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GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. YOU'RE NOT A GOOD PERSON, I'M NOT A GOOD PERSON... ONLY GOD IS GOOD! WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS!
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Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33
“For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
Nooooo... You need a ryzen 9 atleast with katana rocket motherboard and 32gb ddr5 to balance the 3070!!!!
r/pcmasterrace told me soooooo
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@@loowick4074 Also needs to be RGB ram and have a custom water cooling loop
Thank you! I was waiting for a video on budget systems from you guys. ☺️ Isn't the Radeon RX 6500 a good pairing with the 12100F since it has PCI 4.0? Best wishes to you at GN.
I would like to see a budget benchmark of what to expect with these CPUs and realistic used/new GPUs that would be at this price point.
Great video GN 🥰🤩👍. The Intel 10 series CPUs’ are vg value atm 😇👍 and for those on tight budgets the extra ~$100USD on getting the 12th Gen i3 cpu combo (cpu + ram + mobo) maybe out of reach for many. The 10th Gen still gives an awesome performing budget friendly build 🥰🤩😇 and due to the fact you’re starting with an i3, you can upgrade to a decent 65w part i5/i7…. Possibly i9 down the track when prices fall 😳🤩🤯
I know its a whole lot of testing to do to have comparison data like the current setup with the 3080, but it would be really nice to have a budget setup for testing the lower end cpus. I'd like to see what the difference would be with a 3060/3050 or similar lower end gpu, like what would typically be paired with lower end cpus.
Super helpful!
I would suggest you to add benchmarks of f2p games on the budget cpus/gpus videos because in my experience when helping friends building cheap systems they 99% of the time want to play titles like LoL, earthstone or Genshin Impact and no one from the big tech youtube like you or linus does that. So I have to check from different people that have that benchmark on a laptop because it’s the closest to that low tier cpu I could find
This. Lots of people looking for a budget gaming rig are also looking for budget games. That means a mix of F2P games, indie games, and older games that can bought cheap on Steam or GoG. Obviously a full test suite isn't going to happen, but a look or two at Genshin or LoL would be super helpful for the demographic.
@@madcrowmaxwell so much!!!
also console users already spent a big size of their "entertainment" budget on a console + $80 games, they don't have much left for beefy PC or big games (or even know much about the keys/giveaway routes) so focusing on "free but hard to run" games like genshin impact is a must in low budget builds!!
Just got a 10105 for a low-powered home server build, and the whole thing idles at 20W. Very happy with the "old" i3
Last year I built a budget micro ATX gaming PC for my nephew for when he stays over on weekends and chose the 10100F along with an Asus Prime B560M-A and using some spare parts I had around like a an RX 580 and some 1080p 60Hz monitors. He really only plays modded Minecraft (which can be surprisingly demanding!) and Fortnite on it but it can run both at 60FPS no problem. Overall really happy with it as an away from home PC. Glad the CPU is getting some love, it's a great value.
Thing is with those 500 series boards: They work with XMP from the B560 and up, so that default speed is only of concern if you buy a H510 or an non-Z 400 series board.
Thank you for this test and review.
I was buy i3 10100 for 65 USD from used marked because new one in the store here in Croatia is 131 USD. And it was brand new not even unboxed, and sealed. Then i buy Gigabyte Aorus 590i ITX new from the store, NZXT H210 itx case and i already had GTX 1060 asus dual and PSU 700w for start.
Friend of my give me 4gb Fury DDR4 ram just to start the machine and use it till i buy 16gb 3200 ram.
Why did i done all this?
Because i have in mind since prices are dropping on used market and in general i have in plan to upgrade the CPU to i9 10900 so this will bi good machine even in 5 years later.
Im thinking about long run since i did not game games from 2010 i have alot to play of older games, so...its smart :)
Cheers metalhead brother!
keep good work!
Hey Steve and GN crew! I've been watching since the laptop cleaning video and have been wondering: when it comes to gaming specifically would most people from Pascal onward be better off simply cleaning and repasting their systems, or would it be better for them to spend the money and make fresh builds within the same price brackets they originally built in?
A mention is that b560 boards do allow memory oc and to be honest, in Canada at least, its about the same price as a h410, there's an asrock board with a rebate for 89.99 cad compared to 88 for the cheapest h410 board.
10100 non-f was $45 on Amazon, absolutely fantastic cheap CPU for a NAS system using Intel Quick sync and love how little power this thing uses too especially.
I just built my first PC around the 10105. It's giving me all the performance I need right now.
Same!
@@my.way.gaming561 What GPU are you using?
@@UnboxerofWorlds rtx 2080 super
@@my.way.gaming561 That's awesome. I've got an RTX 3060.
More revisits please!
Wow, that 12100F is a beast. If I didn't need more cores for some of my applications, it seems like a great upgrade for basically anyone with a computer more than 2 years old.
It basically redefined the 4 core CPU as an actual option for gaming & dismissed the notion that a 6 core CPU was going to be the new minimum.
No. AMD Ryzen 7 2700X the same price on Ebay but with more performance.
Anyone with a 4 year old computer already has a faster CPU. It is not an upgrade at all.
@@Robbie-mw5uu Did you even watch the video? The 12100F decimates the 2700K in nearly all tests. Even the 10100 beats it in most games. Also, I said 2 years, not 4.
@@Robbie-mw5uu it is if you're only interested in single core performance and you dont need more than 8 threads.
If you're coming from a ryzen 1500/1600/ 2200G/ 3200G, the 12100F is obviously an upgrade.
Not everyone will require 12+ thread goodness and you're just wasting CPU cycles and cores (and energy) if you dont utilize the extra.
@@MLWJ1993 given the facr that 6 cores is now the greatest amount on steam, we are in that new era.
2c / 4t only became obsolete a very few years ago.
However they are a better choice for many AAA and simulation games, thanks to the extra compute possible.
4c /8t has a few years ahead and even when obsolete, will remain a good choice as it ages better.
Would love to see some more older flagship product reviews. Rocking a 6700k still and what love to see how it compares to some of the new ryzen and intel offerings. I'm frugal asf and I know newer is better, but price to performance is harder to keep track of especially the farther back we go.
Hey Steve, any plan to do a GPU buyers guide? With ample stock and falling prices we are all scratching our heads on what to do.
I dropped one of these on H510 mobo and gave it to my sister in law for her school work. She is a teacher. I have heard no complaints.
I wonder why the 10105f is rarely mentioned. Basically a pre-overclocked 10100f
The actual performance difference is tiny in benchmarks
Pre - overclocked? Meh just a 100 MHz increment
yea overclock is a loose term there as it comes from the factory that way as a base clock but regardless of "increment" there is a reported 3% difference in performance compared to 10100 on benchmarks
When talking about budget CPU/GPU I like to see a slide for "All Game Average $/FPS" chart.
Yep copped one for $78 from Amazon for my nephews build with a used 3060 from a friend who mined with it. Perfect budget esports build for fortnite, rocket league…ect.
This was also on a z390 tomahawk ($140) so it’ll be perfect if he decides to upgrade to a higher end cpu later down the road.
My mom is using a intel 6700 and a 1080, still rocking like a champ, and doesn't see much need to do anything about it.
My ex's boy had an i5 3470 with a 1050ti, few months ago i gave him 16gb of ddr4 a b460 mobo "msi mortar" an i3 10100f and gave him an old r9 290x.. The lad is so blown away with his powerful pc.. And I'm happy he's happy. great little cpu.
7:06 When considering the price difference, it's more than the $20 for the CPU! The 10400 uses an older (and cheaper!) mobo with the LGA-1200 socket, as opposed to the 12100 with its LGA-1700. So a big difference in overall package price.
I've been gaming on 10100f for a minute.. it's a value beast! but I also enjoy driving a Camry..
Just ordered 10105f and b560 and some ddr4 3200. Will be a good upgrade from ivy bridge and have a decent upgrade path. Started having random USB issues and just jenk, suspect the mobo was on its way out seeing it was bottom of the barrel even when new. Also saving a decent amount reusing case, psu, and storage
You could go for i3 12100f ???
@@chaitanya9105 the motherboards are expensive
old cpu's-8320fx 3.5ghz 8c8t still rockin it!
I just build a 12100f PC recently, I am surprised of how fast this i3 is, I am in love!! i upgraded from an i7 3770 and the difference is night and day, god bless intel 12 gen cpus they are fking good I am happy with my purchase.
Didn't you have a RIP series idea floating years ago where the winner was the best benchmark score/cost ratio? I'd love to see that
I know it is not relevant to this video, but what case do you most recommend for a silent build? Given that the airflow does actually exist
Amazing to see something in the low end perform so well!
Would be cool if you actually also put the 3300x in the chart, for people that might buy used instead of new
Then they would know what kind of price might be appropriate for it.
been using this cpu for a year now and is great for those games that dont utilise a heap of multithreading!
my dell t3400 looking pretty old compared to this stuff, but hey when you are in an area where tech is rare, you are blessed you have a core 2 duo 8gb, Great video thank you
Funny how I was literally thinking of watching a benchmark on this particular CPU
Can't wait for the R3 4100 review ! Haha will be Steve ' s new 11900K
Hey I'm not sure if you read all of these, but I got an advertisement for the MSI Meg Trident X, which is a desktop chassis that is several years old. But get this: The ad was from Walmart, and the configuration was an 11900k and a 3090. The case is extremely slim, and I suspect thermals are a nightmare as even the older models could barely keep a 9th gen intel cpu below 80 degrees. Maybe it's worth looking into? I know you like to call out these manufacturers like Alienware for doing this, maybe it would make a good video.
I've been on a 10400 i5 for two years and has been very happy with it. Multitasking and VR is smooth as butter. I'm sure the overclocked 1660 and 32gb of ddr4 helps too 😂
I just picked one up for $45 lol, i sold my "old" 2200g for almost twice more. Thank you for this video, just at the right time 😂
You might add a Stockfish chess benchmark. The program uses a fair amount of AVX code, and the large NN and hash table stress the memory to some degree too. Testing at both single as well as multi-thread 'should' produce useful data.
Just built a rig for my son with this and rx 570 4gb. Awesome system that handles everything he plays at 1080 60 frames
I'm thinking about buyin laptop for my father - he needs it for office apps and some web based calculators plus YT. Should i get something with Intel Core i3-10110U or Intel Core i3-1115G4, will it be enough for like 5 years usage (he needs to be on win 11)? Or maybe overall wait for i3 12gen ? Or maybe you have other proposals in same price range? Need advice Steve and you guys. Thank you in advance. :)
I bought the 10100F for my build back in March for about $95 because my old pc broke down and I got a motherboard that was a little bit higher in price but barebones which allows me to go the DDR4 3200 use. I really hate that 2 generation gap thing that Intel does because if my pc broke down last month instead of February I probably would have been able to build a 12100F system for not much more than the 10100F build.
Granted I do still need to get a new GPU (but I'd even have that at this point thanks to the lower prices) when my budget recovers. This video describes my mood perfectly though. Knowing what I know now I would have preferred a 12100f system for around the budget that I spent on the 10100F system but it's more than capable for what I play. I still hate that feeling of buyer's remorse or "if I had just been able to wait a few months" feeling but what I have now works just fine. The 12100F does so well, I really just wish it was within my price bracket at the time.
Still rocking a 9900K. See no reason to upgrade. Maybe AM5 or Raptor Lake? Great video.
I would actually like to see these pair with a reasonable gpu, like a 3050/3060/6600
reasonable GPU are like Intel Arc, nothing but legend now.
These GPUs will offer slightly to significantly lesser performance depending on the game.
Still, that's better value and a hidden rule apparently is 2 GPUs for 1 CPU in terms of lifespan in a PC.
eyyyy this is the cpu I'm using right now actually! I got it when 11th gen first came out and it has held up great since!
Great vid and keep it up!