Sometimes I think the wheel size change hasn't mattered as much as the geometry and sizing change. The older bikes look so small/short under a lot of the riders.
I used to think that suspension travel was the most important factor in deciding what a bike was made for. But after working in the industry for the past 10 years I realized that the geometry of the bikes is one of the most important factors. Some of these smaller companies like Pivot have really nailed the geometry on their bikes. You can ride a 120mm bike like an enduro bike, or a 160mm bike and have it climb like a XC bike, all because of the geometry.
Vital these videos are fantastic please keep them comming.it would be amazing to see some of the older ones in one long segment tho as a die hard racer and fan for over 20 years this stuff is amazing specially given the short race season
Great video. It really shows both how much bikes have improved, but also how good riders were back then. Tough to know for sure, but I'd wager that the riders' skill level at the top hasn't improved nearly as quickly as bike technology. It is also interesting to see how the 'approach' to riding those older, smaller bikes was more about hanging it out, getting loose, and controlling the chaos, whereas the new, longer bikes seems more about holding it on the limit without having a major detonation. It also looks like the small bikes required a lot more correcting and reacting, whereas the bigger bikes stay fairly composed until the moment the rider pushes that bit too hard and fully explodes (like that clip of Troy or Kye Ahern(?) at St. Anne). Very cool to see the different styles on display.
1. kovarik railing through ft. william followed by a clip of brook doing it just as fast, pure perfection. 2. 2010 greg minnaar in mont st. anne and then last years clip is so insane, 9 years apart
man, some of those mofos were runnin such low tire pressure you could hear the rim smakin the rock edges. I've been riding DH since most of the top world cup guys were in diapers, or still in their dad's balls. It sure has changed over the years, since everyone rode the Intense M1, and even if you were riding for another bike company they would just put their frame stickers on the M1 like Haro for example. I wanted an M1 so bad, but never got one....until about 2 years ago but it's now the M16c. It's still a killer bike.
26 inch is still in my opinion king because all the riders had to work allot harder & i love the sound of bikes with 26 inch wheels because you can hear the bike working on those DH tracks.
2:22 fuckin' _ouch_ man. That's the kinda shit that always happens to me lol, I somehow make it through the harder part and then lose my front end on some asshole slippery rock or root.
and these were the Pro's who had the luxury of having a mechanic tear down and rebuild their bike after every session. Imagine what us regular people had to put up with? I've had some noisey ass bikes.
Why isn't this cut in a chronological order? EDIT: I take it back, it appears it's in chronological order within a venue? Also, modern bikes are damn quiet and even the sketchy lines look composed. On old, 26" bikes even the good lines looked sketchy.
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It would be nice if it atleast said the year each clip was from, then we would actually get a sense of "through the years" rather than just looking at a bunch of uncorrelated clips
Thumbs up if you want an old-school 26" World Cup DH category!!!
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Some captions about who the rider is, what year and where would make this 12/10
Exactly
Definitely.
What I reeeally want to see is present day vs yesteryear, back to back through given sections or corners. That would be interesting.
Sometimes I think the wheel size change hasn't mattered as much as the geometry and sizing change. The older bikes look so small/short under a lot of the riders.
Yeah its pretty dramatic how so small they look. They also appear so unstable and choatic under the rider compared to the 29ers.
I used to think that suspension travel was the most important factor in deciding what a bike was made for. But after working in the industry for the past 10 years I realized that the geometry of the bikes is one of the most important factors. Some of these smaller companies like Pivot have really nailed the geometry on their bikes. You can ride a 120mm bike like an enduro bike, or a 160mm bike and have it climb like a XC bike, all because of the geometry.
👍🏻 the speed seems more real on the 26ers, those DH courses even more terrifying.
8:34 Insane commitment!!! That'S Phil Atwill right?
Danny Hart is so damn precise and positioned so well 👑
hes the king.
26 looks so rad🤘🏼
Vital these videos are fantastic please keep them comming.it would be amazing to see some of the older ones in one long segment tho as a die hard racer and fan for over 20 years this stuff is amazing specially given the short race season
Great video. It really shows both how much bikes have improved, but also how good riders were back then. Tough to know for sure, but I'd wager that the riders' skill level at the top hasn't improved nearly as quickly as bike technology. It is also interesting to see how the 'approach' to riding those older, smaller bikes was more about hanging it out, getting loose, and controlling the chaos, whereas the new, longer bikes seems more about holding it on the limit without having a major detonation. It also looks like the small bikes required a lot more correcting and reacting, whereas the bigger bikes stay fairly composed until the moment the rider pushes that bit too hard and fully explodes (like that clip of Troy or Kye Ahern(?) at St. Anne). Very cool to see the different styles on display.
I miss the days of baggie jerseys and shorts.
You can thank Shaun Palmer for that look. Before him it was skinsuits.
Ah... those were the days. When bikes sounded like shopping carts clacking their way down the hill.
1. kovarik railing through ft. william followed by a clip of brook doing it just as fast, pure perfection. 2. 2010 greg minnaar in mont st. anne and then last years clip is so insane, 9 years apart
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Something special about 26.... Steezy shit'!
I had a Specialized Bighit with 26" front and 24" rear and a 13LBS monster T fork. It was a beast.
@@JubeProductions My buddie's Big Hit was my dream bike for ages maan
Through the years... Oh look.. There's GM from start to finish 🐐
Cool video, nice riding 👍👍
can we just get a RAW Greg Minnaar through the years?
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I like when the bike goes tud tud tud tud
man, some of those mofos were runnin such low tire pressure you could hear the rim smakin the rock edges.
I've been riding DH since most of the top world cup guys were in diapers, or still in their dad's balls. It sure has changed over the years, since everyone rode the Intense M1, and even if you were riding for another bike company they would just put their frame stickers on the M1 like Haro for example. I wanted an M1 so bad, but never got one....until about 2 years ago but it's now the M16c. It's still a killer bike.
Here's hoping we can get to see the races live in 2021.
This is sooooo legendary
26 inch is still in my opinion king because all the riders had to work allot harder & i love the sound of bikes with 26 inch wheels because you can hear the bike working on those DH tracks.
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Nice thanks
No ratboy in this vid? Missin ratboy in dh racing scene
they are pretty fast...even the split time at 3:06 couldn't stay still....
The chain slap has been replaced by BZZZZZZing freewheels
3:22 it's been a LONG time since Brosnan has had anything but single digits on his number plate!
Ahhh the good old days when you could spectate a race.
There appears to be some footage showing Fort William and there is no rain or mud, and people wearing t shirts. I'm claiming CGI fake!
Nice job!
2:22 fuckin' _ouch_ man. That's the kinda shit that always happens to me lol, I somehow make it through the harder part and then lose my front end on some asshole slippery rock or root.
1:23 I still ride that bike
I like how comparing old bikes to new bikes the old ones seem to make a ton more noise lmao
and these were the Pro's who had the luxury of having a mechanic tear down and rebuild their bike after every session. Imagine what us regular people had to put up with? I've had some noisey ass bikes.
Why on earth are all the seatposts so long
Because the geometry was so small
@@JubeProductions Makes sense, thank you
Different horses for different courses. I still love my 26 inch norco atomic and set a kom on my 26inch 09 orange patriot today.
Aaaaand my next dh bike will be a 650b again
Why isn't this cut in a chronological order?
EDIT: I take it back, it appears it's in chronological order within a venue?
Also, modern bikes are damn quiet and even the sketchy lines look composed. On old, 26" bikes even the good lines looked sketchy.
Uwoww
Man, I feel old now...
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World Cup DH should still be on 26" !
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Those 26 inch bikes look so comically small
Sounds like a bucket full of bolt
old hard track
It would be nice if it atleast said the year each clip was from, then we would actually get a sense of "through the years" rather than just looking at a bunch of uncorrelated clips
Older bikes were so noisy 😵
For fucks sake Brayton