Is Neutral Spine a Myth? - SOLVED once and for all... maybe.
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Is Neutral Spine a Myth? - SOLVED once and for all... maybe.
If you've been in fitness in rehab, or following fitness and rehab content, you've probably heard of the concept of neutral spine.
Some say you should try to achieve a "state of neutrality" or "get neutral." Some say you should always lift with a "neutral spine." And others say that there's no such thing as neutral...
So who is right? Is neutral spine actually a thing?
We cover that in today's video, by looking at different lenses.
Ultimately, you'll find that in some cases it is useful to look through the lens of neutral spine, while other times it can be a distraction.
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Consider me guilty of saying neautral spine knowing full well that no one knows what it means. These days I tend to think of neautral spine as the ribs stacked evenly on the pelvis, but as you mentioned, very few situations in human movement will provide opportunity for that to be the case. Interesting video man!
I used to tell everyone neutral spine... Add to that squeeze the glutes, tuck your tailbone, retract the scapula... These days I say, stack the pelvis and rib cage, shift your hips back, stand back up (for example)
Wonderful video, especially the lovely way you have of not identifying "flaws" but states of posture/movement.
I do think that "neutral mind" is a great influence upon everything once it can be sustained and not just passed through.
Neutral mind!! Love it. I think in many ways neutrality can be the balanced point one passes through and returns to on the way to other mind states. Once the norm is balanced, centered, centerless, then everything else becomes easier
@@ChaplinPerformance So true!
Useful in using in semi supine as an aid for spinal decompression and awareness but movement is constantly dynamic. Mat the pilates teacher.
Thanks Matt!
Mr. Chaplin, on min 04:00 you mention that it’s unlikely that balance can be attained in the spine, to paraphrase. The kundalini yoga rhythm accomplishes that. It’s relatively easy to understand once the correct interpretation of all of those geometric symbols is figured out. Wait for my book for next year.
Yes mentioned that mathematically it would only be possible for a short period of time unless speaking about a theoretic static position. If you consider the shape and size disparities of the organs and breathing, then even at rest it is nearly mathematically impossible. I’ll await your book.
You should be able to maintain neutral going to a simple seated position. If you can't, that's indicative of a problem.
You're also using lordosis and kyphosis in a (while still technically correct) unconventional way that ends up confusing the question. You know that when people talk about either of those they mean the phenomenon of when those curves are overexaggerated to the point of causing issues. Using a term that normally refers to a problem to discuss neutral spine doesn't help anyone. technically correct is the worst kind of correct.
I’m actually using these terms in the most conventional way possible. Take any introductory anatomy course and that’s one of the first things you will learn.
People talk about excessive lordosis and kyphosis but often fail to actually have any objective ways of quantifying this and/or fail to indicate whether these are fixed or flexible positions.
As for what you mean by “neutral” in sitting, I’m not sure. Is it the theoretical distribution of abdominal contents or is it some arbitrary position of the spine? Or something else?
@@ChaplinPerformance Again, technically correct is the worst kind of correct. I already granted that you are technically correct with their usage, but the convention in most discussions is that either term refers to "excessive ____" and not normal range of motion.
There is no 'objective' way to quantify the normal range of motion, it's 'measured' qualitatively. Pain is one good indicator.
If after making this video you question what "neutral" is, then you're only reinforcing my point. If you're a physio, you should know what a neutral spine is, and no, it's not arbitrary. When you try to dismiss the concept of a neutral spine by calling it arbitrary is .... not good.
Anyone should be able to maintain a neutral spine standing, sitting, walking, etc. Whether they do or not is different, but you shouldn't be trying to bio-babble your way into giving people an excuse for bad posture.
My hip has been shifted forward for a very long time in my life. When I started to shift it backwards, I feel most of my weight on my heels. In order to put my weight on the mid foot. I have to bend my knee a little. Is it actually normal?
Be on the lookout for next week's video on posterior pelvic tilt. What you are describing is not likely what you are after. You are likely over-doing it.
I was in the same situation as you, and I think your knees should be slightly unlocked if you were hyperextending before. Also, be careful not to shift too far back.
You do 1 to 1 counceling like a semi diagnose on Instagram by any chance.
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