Was Wyatt Earp a Hero or a Villain?
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2021
- Was Wyatt Earp a HERO or a VILLAIN? Bob Boze Bell's take on the matter.
Bob Boze Bell is known as America's Western Storyteller. He is an artist, author, writer and serves as executive editor of True West magazine. Bell is a popular, sought-after figure in television documentaries about the Old West, appearing as an expert in dozens of Wild West history shows. Bell won an Emmy Award as Executive Producer of the PBS special, Outrageous Arizona, a zany look at the state's centennial, that he also wrote and helped direct. As an author, Bell has brought to life Billy the Kid, Geronimo, Doc Holliday, Wyatt Earp and Wild Bill Hickok in his best-selling Illustrated Life and Times series. His books Classic Gunfights I, II and III are must-reads about the most important Old West gunfights. Bell’s Bad Men is now in its fourth printing, while his illustrated autobiography, The 66 Kid: Raised on the Mother Road, gives personal insight into the passions that have driven him on his lifelong quest to interpret the history of the American West for audiences around the world.
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Earp was absolutely fearless.Bat Masterson said he was utterly devoid of fear.Thats what set him apart regardless of his other traits.
And Bat was No Slouch when it came to Armed Conflict.
Sooooo
If Bat Said It....You can take it to the Bank
He also said Wyatt never talked about anything, ever as well. Right to his dying days in L.A when reporters would interview him he never spoke about anything that happened back in the old days of his youth in the real old west. He always only gave 3 answers which were "nope", "yup", and "don't recall". Lol. That's so perfectly what I would think the real Wyatt Earp would be like and it makes me smile
Wyatt: sometimes the worst cops are better in a gunfight
Froggy Ragus Central huih, 007?
nonsense. These guys after their crimes/fame spent time promoting each other. It was almost an industry. If earp wasnt afraid he wouldnt have brought his entire family and friend group heavily armed to ambush a small group or lightly unarmed and unarmed men for a 'crime' that at most was a small fine
Wyatt Earp was a man of his times, and situation. This is all.
he was a pimp.. aka sex trafficker.. who ran a crooked gambling house and was notorious for pistol whipping people then fining them. And a murderer
This was fascinating 👏 Wyatt was a flawed man but we all are. Admir his bravery, very few of us have that
I don't think the Earp's were any worse than lots of people back then. One thing is for sure we will never know the absolute truth. Enjoy your channel, Thanks 🐴.
Spot on comment…
Many people living in those days, were not law breakers. Wyatt wasn't always a good guy, his sister in laws said they thought he robbed stages and was working both sides of the law. But Wyatt is still fascinating, and we like him, but it does't do anyone justice to gloss over the truth.
People then “survived”. Every day was an effort to make it another day, week, or longer. Add to that all the young men getting out of the civil war, who just like our soldiers today, they witnessed things that most do not, and they came home to a different society.
Leads to a lot of bad people who probably were not so bad earlier in their lives. (Yes, I know! Not everyone served in the war, but that doesn’t mean their lives were not influenced by the times)
Either way, There has been good and bad people since Cain picked up the rock!
The Earp's were republican.... the Cowboys (or better Cow-thieves) were "democrats", the rabble....
The Earps never did kill anybody it was Doc Holiday thats why the cowboys would kill or ambush the Earps but they were scare with Doc Holiday.
My great grandfather was a gunfighter and a rancher in the Dakotas and Wyoming. My mother idolized him and told me stories about him growing up. The one thing she said about folks who lived in the wild west that stuck with me was that it was a hard life and men had to be hard to survive.
The "wild" west was a Hollywood invention. The truth wouldn't put butts in seats at the movie theaters and eyes in front of the TV. The reality of it was think of today with less technology. You wake up go to work eat lunch go back to work. Eat dinner go back to work go home go to bed. Wake up do it all again the next day the only difference on Sunday go to church. Not very interesting now is it?
Most cowboys only used their guns to kill rattle snakes and scare away animals that could kill them. It wasn't a lawless void of violence and debauchery like Hollywood made it out to be.
Here is kind of my problem with people that say that Wyatt it’s really a bad person. It’s like at the beginning of the video where the guy says that the one man that he quoted said that Wyatt Earp will never again be looked at as a hero because of the situation with Mattie. It felt like in the 80s and 90s we got away from this idea that “ there are good people and there are bad people and good people do good things and bad people do bad things” that’s just not reality. We’ve all done terrible things, good people have done bad things. And I think back then from every thing that I have read, listen to, watched and looked up for myself it doesn’t sound like he was any worse than anyone else back then. In the early 1900s and unfortunately today we live in this fantasy world where if someone does one bad thing then that means they’ve never done anything good and they’re a terrible person and their name should be forgotten and then when they finally pass away we’re just going to throw their body in the swamp and let the animals eat the remains and they will be no respect to that name ever again. I think Wyatt was a good person that had a hard life and because of that he made some bad choices. Just like most of us. I don’t consider myself a horrible person today in 2021, I have been arrested over a dozen times and I did drink every day for 12 years but those days are long behind me now should I just be held to those mistakes forever? What’s the point of even trying to do anything good if you don’t learn from your mistakes? Thank God for Wyatt Earp!
Arrested a dozen times = loser.
Dude, if you've been arrested 12 times, you are not a good person. I promise. You haven't replied because you're probably in jail again.
@@datguitarplayer1656 ur not so nice it self..remember when I last saw u
@@datguitarplayer1656 That is an ignorant statement from an ignorant person
@@datguitarplayer1656 but you are not much better. you have make big faullts likkkkke me and alll the others.
I have to say, my Paternal Grandmothers Father, and Wyatt Earp shared a Great Grandfather. Her take on Wyatt Earp was that he was a "Bad Man",and he was not discussed in polite company. Bob's Grand Mother and mine would have seen eye to eye. Thank You Bob for your magazine and stories.
The difference between Hero & Anti Hero is merely the point of view. Earp was a badass, that is a fact. Great job as always Bob!
We must always remember these men were products of their time & era. You cannot judge them by today's mores or standards. In some cases lines got very "grey" & as "hazy" as the black powder they used.
I really love this channel......love Bob's passion for storytelling.
Love the videos. I think the mistake we make today, is trying to apply today's societal norms to history. It's becoming common practice. We're seeing this sort of thing all around us with cancel culture. I wish it would stop.
I agree with you generally that we try to apply today’s norms to historical periods and people, and that is wrong….I don’t think that is at all what happened with Wyatt Earp…. Watch this author discuss his book on Wyatt Earp. It would appear he was a pretty bad person regardless of what morals you apply…. ruclips.net/video/3Ina4BW5_Us/видео.html
But pimps and horse thieves have always had a low reputation.And this was just as true in Wyatt's time as in our own.And taking the law into your own hands is never acceptable.And that's what Wyatt did after Morgan's murder.
@@lainefrajberg955 “Taking the law in your own hands is never acceptable”, really? What if the law is imposed by a dictator? America’s revolution was a 7 year period of us taking the law in our own hands which we’ve justified because the government authority was not beholden to the people. In much of the old west, the “government” was sometimes a group of corrupt officials appointed by another corrupt official. The Territorial governments were not elected. Their governors were appointed as a political favor by people in Washington. After the Civil War there were officials who lynched former slaves who tried to assert their rights. It goes on and on, but the “law” was being abused by a corrupt power structure to deny certain people their civil rights through the 20th century. In a better world I’d agree with you, but I think that sometimes the law be damned, do what is right.
Sir I was glued to my chair listening to you.
Kid you not! The first alternate view of the Earp's was when I saw the 1966 episode of them title "Hour of The Gun" in the Star Trek TV series.
The Earp's were not boy scouts. The town people wanted them out. The Canton family was made to look a lighter shade of grey. Town sheriff Bean didn't care one way or other. "Kill them anyway you can, no question asked" As he spoke to Ike.
Whao... Not the 1950's series I saw as a kid.
I gotta tell ya, there has been a lot of ex-wives that claimed their ex-husbands "ruined their life". I need more than just a bitter woman's condemnation.
GivesAShit what you need, harry?
Not one dull moment in your video! What a great talent Bob Boze Bell is.
I am from the Northeast and went to Tombstone in October of 1987. You are right about the confined area of the OK Corral fight. I met an elderly man in Boot Hill at the time. He looked to be in his eighties and said he was from Texas. He was there with his wife, I believe. We were at the Billy Clanton grave, and I was flabbergasted when he said he was a Clanton, but I forget if he said he was a grandson of Ike's. I still have the color slides of this gentleman. We had a nice talk and he said he made the pilgimage there occasionally. Tombstone is a great place. I was surprised when I visited the antique stores there that everything looked newer, but then again, I'm from the Northeast. Nice video!
Thank You for talking about Wyatt Earp and all the things in the old-time West with Wyatt Earp 🤠
After living a good long while, and been in and out of school for so very long, one thing became ever more clear, - the whole idea of the 'truth'.
There is no such thing.
It doesn't matter what subject or way of looking
at it. There is only per-
spective.
Earp was a hero to some,
and a criminal opportun-
ist to others.
"History" is the lies we tell ourselves about the past.
there is absolutely truth.. whether you choose to delude yourself or not is the only question
Bob always a pleasure seeing you and hearing you talk and tell stories.. thanks and keep em coming..
Bottom line Wyatt was a human being, flawed just like the rest of us. I deeply appreciate your channel and enjoy your commentary. Oh and I'm not far behind you, yesterday was the anniversary of Woodstock and knowing I was there made me feel old as well.
Wow! You were at Woodstock! That's an awesome piece of history there too!! Wish I was there 😍
I was about 13 then! Long live rock and rockers!
I hear that but a pimp though. I'm pretty flawed not quite that flawed though.
Of I ever get my hands on a time machine, I am travelling to Tombstone day before Earps get there....and then Iam spending the whole time there as a fly on the wall soaking it all in
I really enjoy your videos. Lots of helpful history delivered in the style of an old friend sitting across the table.
I am a big fan of your art and your illustrated biographies. Glad to see you have this channel! I've always been intrigued how the Earps and Cowboy gang are depicted from generation to generation in fiction, film and even academia. Thanks for the work.
Loved this video. My cowboy grandfather also saw Earp as an interloper, corrupt and a bully. I can still see his sun worn sneer and hear his raspy voice, “Wyatt Earp was a jerk.” Growing up in Cochise County, I don’t remember too many folks who thought differently. You said it best. Earp was just human like the rest of us. Except most of us aren’t legends!
he was literally a pimp and card cheat famous for pistol whipping drunks and robbing them from behind a badge so. He wasnt 'just like the rest of us'
The man lived until he was 80 so he drank at least some milk. Thanks for keeping these stories alive.
Bob, I love how you bring the truth to light. It’s true that truth is better than fiction. I absolutely love your stories. I grew up as a kid loving the Wild West and the many stories of that period. Keep up the Great work you are doing.
Thank you. Great video! Seen you many times on TV. Always enjoy it. On the TV show Ray Boyle played Morgan Earp. He said on Word On Westerns, he was working on an 'accurate' biography about Wyatt. I can relate to Wyatt & the rest in many ways. Including the Clanton's. I was a street cop for 3 years in a hazardous duty zone. (We called them 'business girls' not hookers) Like them we all became a family of sorts. Ike calling them 'pimps' was not off the mark then. Great one. I have to get that magazine. Thanks again.
Love it! Wonderful stuff! Got to get all these books with your art. Thanks!
Thank you Bob, that was awesome!!
You sir are a EPIC story teller! I lived in New Mexico for many many years. Southern and Northern. I lived in Alamogordo about 4 years, visited Roswell, Lincoln, went down to Columbus once. I went all over.
.. I moved north to Los Alamos, then later Santa Fe. Then I spent 20 years in Albuquerque. I learned a LOT of SW history. I can confirm 90% of what you said here from what I heard from old folks. Note: I am 70. Thank you. I enjoyed the hell out of this.
Of ALLthe details you’ve lent us in THIS vid Bob (once again!), I come away with “sunfishing”..NEVER have heard of it and have been around horses all my life…wow. FAR from a “flatlander”, this is a new one for me today, at 61 YEARS young! GREAT video and always fantastic details. Can never get enough..
Listen to Marty Robbin's "Strawberry Roan"
I find your storytelling some of the most entertaining things I come across on RUclips.
Yahoooo!! Probably around My 9th time watching this episode, as long as I'm suckin' wind people will know who Wyatt Earp is, and his monumental life!❤
Love your insight on a legend that I've been fascinated with for many years. Thank you!
I have mentioned this in another Earp video. "Across the Cimmaron" by James D Horan is a biography of a man who ventured West as a surveyor. Among his travels he befriended Holliday in a town, when Wyatt was there.
Holliday would chat with him and Earp would always be aloof and never engage. Only once did Earp speak with him, asking his age.
Pretty good insight into his personality.
Great channel Bob.....I am currently renovating a home in Tombstone .....it's right in back of where the M.Callisher store was back in the day.... supposedly owned by a Judge named Grey...I look forward to the 140th anniversary celebration
Cool I live in Tombstone as well
It's very green for a dessert original buildings 1880s clothing. People are nice there. It's a must see town
That, is awesome sir!
Would i love to spend a evening chatting to Bob he's such a true genius, a comic, but serious too and knows his stuff. reminds me of the man i hoped my dad would have been God bless you Bob...
I love listening to you. We're the same age, so I relate to your references to your childhood, although I'm a Metro NY girl. Always been a huge fan of the West, starting with Hopalong Cassidy!
Great and fascinating information Bob. Just can't get what you offer anywhere else so thanks pard...
It's always the case "The legend becomes bigger with every telling " Thanks Bob for presenting so many historical facts, which leaves us with new ways to look at who they were.
Thats AWESOME Bob , Really Enjoyed This !!!
Thanks this is awesome glad I found this on RUclips love it
Awesome talk. Thanks, keep up the great history.
Thank you for the issue's tidbits of quotes from first hand sources. Right pard', It's about what Wyatt Earp stands for. "Long may his story be told." 👍
Don’t know if he was hero or villain…but he was fearless from what I understand.
Underrated channel!
absolutely great bob bose bell.great history lesson.
What a fascinating story! Your incredible research has really made this story so clear. Thanks for sharing this.
Awesome work Bob!
on the old womans channel bbb,but i have to say,i have been following you for years and you are no piker by any means.you have one of the best channels on youtube.god bless. ty santee
you are the best storyteller of all time. Love your video's
Brilliant. Thank you.
There is another movie about Wyatt Earp,the name of the movie is:WYATT EARP w/ Kevin Costner.Its got more detail than the movie Tombstone but you never hear much about it.Ive seen both movies,like both movies but still feel that Wyatt Earp w/Kevin Costner has alot more imfomation in it.Dont get me wrong, Tombstone is a EXCELLENT movie especially with Sam Elliott in it, he's totally amazing in westerns but if you watch the other you'll see what I'm talking about.
Saw it when it came out, the movie was was too long and boring.
I always enjoy hearing you. I have just re-watched Young Guns, The Long Riders & Tombstone; in your opinion which is the most historically accurate and which is the best picture (enjoyable)?
Thanks for producing great video content.
Of all the fishes in da sea my favorite one is the bass.it climbs on the little rocks and slide down on their fins.love your shows!
Like sooooo many people in history, and even us today, I think he was a bit of both. History & people are always complicated and rarely are things black & white.
Mr. Bell, I was the armour and gun coach on "Tombstone" and a good friend of Jeff Morey. I would like to talk to you.
Enjoyed every minute of this.
Wyatt Earp was not only a fearless man.... but also a very lucky man
In many shootings never was hurt by a bullet, and died more than 80 years old
er because he was the one gunning people down
I have gamed the gunfight at the OK Corral from Clum's vigilantes down to one Earp.
If only one or two Earps had gone down there, they would have been dead.
Lawman killing was a popular sport among cowboys and gamblers in that era.
I want to thank Bob for this entertaining and informative talk.
Great vid. Thank you
The west was wild and you had to be a bad ass to make it.
Thank you, I enjoyed it.
Great insight!!!
I am totally down for this gathering at Scheiflin Hall. My birthday is also the anniversary of the gunfight, and I'll be down there!
Hi ya Bob I enjoyed your old west talks thanks. I used to love the old Hugh OBrian show in the UK it was shown on Friday night we had a fish and chips supper (the only take away in the UK at the time).
One thing about Doc & they portrayed it quite well in 'Tombstone' is that drunk or sober he would have been the one to know who was going to jump first.
I thought that was really well portrayed.
If there was any chance of it jumping off I'd chose Doc every time.
literally none of this was true. He was a degernerate drunk and heroin user wanted all over the country. He hung out with earp because he'd have been hung in most places. Even the most worshipful biographies paint him as scum. Read up a bit on how he treated his wife.
It is an interesting paradox that the gunfight that made Wyatt Earp immortal, and provides the basis for the tourism that sustains Tombstone today, was an unmitigated disaster for him. It destroyed his hope of becoming the sheriff of Cochise county which would have given him a huge income and enabled him to cross the line from being an employee to being a partner in the corporate America that was being rapidly constructed in these years. He became famous but never respectable in his lifetime. He was a hard man and I don't feel sorry for him.
Corporate America? Wyatt was as much a part of that as anyone, genius. He started at least two dozen businesses in his life. He came back from Nome with over 2 million in todays dollars.
he never had a chance of becoming sheriff. The citizens reviled him and didnt like the earps. He tried to make a deal with his opponent, swapping the office around and sharing the profits but he was laughed at. Unlike you most people dont know just how huge that income would have been. In modern terms he'd have recieved a million or two a year from fines.
@@AGTtactical Why is it simpletons like you always shout that others arent smart??? He failed at pretty much everything he did in life. He was corrupt as the day is long and a failure at it. He tried to make a deal with his political opponent to swap the sheriffs office/share profits and was laughed at. 'genius'
@@AGTtacticalIt was all lost in Josie's gambling. In his last yrears he was almost broke. He was never a partner in big business.
Haven’t made a video in a while … I hope all is well with you !!! Your videos are great
U.S. Marshall’s service absolved Earp from any blame for these killings,continued to employ him, and refused efforts by the authorities in Arizona territory to extradite him.
The U,S marshals had issued warrants for all male member of the Clansy family and their employees at the request of the government of Mexico. President Chester Arthur ordered the marshalls to take the Clancys dead or alive.” The reason was that the Mexicam ambassador had threatened that the Mexican army to invade Arizona and take the Clancys prisoner or kill them themselves. According to the Mexicans, the Clancy’s had murdered a number of people in Mexico, including a wealthy and well-connceted rancher, and had stole large herds of cattle from Mexican ranchers. So Prersident Arthur, who had created the U.S. Marshall’s service a short time earlier, gove the marshalls strict instruction to capture or if they resisted arrest kill the clancythe Clancys and their employees, in order to deny the Mexicans any pretext for an invasion.
Earlier, before Earp had begun his campaign against the Clancy's the sheriff of the Mexican district adjoining Earp’s jurisdiction had come to Tombstone to meet with Earp. He showed Earp extensive evidence of the murders and thefts that the Clancys had committed in Mexico, and made Earp swear that he would either arrange their extradition to Mexico or bring them to justice in the UNited States. He also told Earp that the Mexican government would pay a large reward to whoever brought the Clancys to justice. That gave Earp yet another reason to either arrest tor kill the Clancys. I don’t know whether Earp ever received the award.
Thus the motives behind his vengeance ride” was not primarily to avenge the shooting of his two brothers, although must have contributed to his motivation. His primary motive was to please President Arthur and the U.S. Marshall’s Service by preventing a possible second Mexican war.
Some years later, after the controversy over the events in Tombstone, the Federal government rewarded Earp with a highly paid job as a postal inspector in San Franciso. A position that he held for many years, and that helped Earp to make up the financial losses he had suffered from in earlier years. The U.S. Federal government never did arrest Earp or extradite him to Arizona, despite the pleas of the both the territorial, county and municipal governments in Arizona that he be extradicted and tried for murder. Before he was hired as a postal inspector, Earp worked as a" lawman “ in numerous towns and cities throughout the West, other than Arizona. The Federal government never made any effort to prevent his being hired by any of these municapal jurisdictions.
The preponderence of evidence clears Earp of any criminal wrongdoing, and indicates that Earp was an honest law enforcement officer and a man of good moral character. He was not the vindictive murderer as his enemies in his lifetime and some historians in recent times describe him.
@@revelation13_9 Thanks for the correction. Of course I meant the Clanton Family
An example of what I meant in my previous comments with regards to people trying to make Wyatt a hero or to make him a villain.
In the 20 second long battle (yes, 20, not 30) on Fremont, Doc Holliday used a Wells Fargo shotgun and fired a fatal shot into the right side of Tom McLaury.
In the days that followed, both Wyatt and Virgil would both claim that Tom had a pistol and used it in the battle. That he fired over the back/saddle of a horse and in fact, shot Morgan Earp.
There wasn't one single eyewitness who stated that they conclusively saw Tom McLaury armed and shooting in the battle. Some historians, amd readers try to fit that puzzle piece into the slot that doesn't work, using testimony if eyewitnesses who say they saw a man with a horse firing at the Earp party.
However, this individual is described as "the" man with "the" horse. Not "one of the men", or "a man".
What this means is that, contrary to popular opinion among Earp supporters, is that there was only 1 man with a horse. There wasn't 2 horses. Only 1. And only 1 man ever had it. The testimony of butcher James Keyhoe tells us who. He says that Frank McLaury held the reins of a horse from the time he was at Keyhoe's shop until he let go of the animal and died .
Then., there are the testimonies of Ham Light, Coleman and Fellehy who state that Tom was running during the fight. In fact, Fellehy's testimony makes it clear that thean with the horse and the man running were two separate individuals. He stated that both Morgan Earp and Doc Holliday were firing at the man with the horse and that Holliday had already fired at a man who had run by him.
With no weapon to defend himself, Tom did what Ike did. He ran. Fight or flight.
No one found a gun on or around Tom. Wyatt later said that Clanton friend Wes Fullet picked it up and took it. Though no one else saw that either.
Tom's wound (in his right axilla) is consistent of that with a man who is running.
Finally, there is the fact that Tom McLaury was too short to fire over the back of a quarter horse. He was taller than Frank. But certainly not a 6 footer like the Earps who could casually start shooting over a horse's back. Nevermind the fact that we already have conclusive testimony that his brother Frank was the only one with a horse in the battle.
Later, a Mrs JC Colyer would state she witnessed the battle from a block away while sitting in a wagon. She stated "one of the cowboys used a horse as a shield and fored under it's neck". (Note: she said one)
This, of course, was Frank in Fremont firing at the Earp party.
My point is, we have so much evidence to look at, that corroborates other evidence and testimony such as this, but is largely ignored because people want Tom McLaury to have been armed. And being a no good cowboy shooting an Earp in the back.
And then there are those who will eagerly accept the fact that Doc shot an unarmed man running for his life, and believe that Holliday started the fight by firing nilly willy on the cowboys with Morgan Earp.
Because that is what they want.
Again, we have testimony of James Keyhoe who clearly tells us that after the fight started, Holliday was going out on the sidewalk with a shotgun in his hands.
He never used a pistol first, and how ridiculous would it have been to have used a pistol first when he had a shotgun at his disposal and tried to hold on to it while firing with a pistol?
Doc fired on and killed an unarmed man. The defense wisely left him off the stand. Wyatt later tried to cover this up, because his purpose when speaking o writers in the 1900's wasn't about making a buck or two. It was about clearing the Earp name, because people still did not like the Earps and Doc. They weren't universal heroes. Even Bob Bell here will tell you that his grandmother who knew some of the people in the area would not hesitate to call Wyatt out for being a dirty SO you know what.
The cowboys were criminals. But there were others in amd around Tombstone who liked them. They supplied them with cheap beef as one example. They went into Mexico to steal cattle and sell them cheap to Arizonans. (Which is what Old Man Clanton was doing when he was killed).
So we have Wyatt who later lied about Tom being armed, because he had the privilege of outliving everyone and no one was around to dispute his word.
And this is the same man who was loved by men like John Clum, Bat Masterson, William S Hart and many prominent citizens of Dodge city and Tombstone.
And we have Doc, who fires on amd cuts down an unarmed man in a street battle.
And this is the same man, who, according to Kate, came into his room after the fight and sat on his bed and wept about what had happened.
None of them were heroes or villians. They were just people capable of doing good things, and having their own individual flaws.
Very entertaining stuff, thank you. The only issue I have is that you said there was a flip in the 60s which is a common misconception. There was no such flip.
Mr. Bell: It would be interesting to have a video on the trial that ensued after the OK Corral and the eyewitness from New Jersey that saved Wyatt Earp's bacon.
The Bob Fitzsimmons/Tom Sharkey fight/fiasco deserved a mention here!
Remember, Wyatt was first and foremost, a businessman. His actions at the Sharkey/Fitzsimmons fight we’re merely what he considered good business.
Just found your channel I've become addicted. My mother's family is from Missouri they claim one of her great uncles road with Jesse James.
It's probably the same as these times. If you come across as nice and friendly people think you are passive and can do you wrong and treat you bad. If you are stoic and stand your ground they think you are a jerk!
Stand your ground.
he was literally famous for pistol whipping unarmed people then fining them. that what you call stand your ground? PS men who are actually strong are nice and friendly.
Billy the Kid vs Wyatt Earp
Two of the most timeless names in the West.
Great story!
Three cheers for Bob Boze Bell. The REAL west. Earp was neither hero nor villain. Just a man. An opportunistic entrepreneur. I believe Earp would fit in nicely today as a lawman. Honest only as far as he could make a buck
he was a pimp, murderer, card cheat, gang leader, corrupt (and inept) politican and murderer... jesus read the red words
You have to think…look at the way of life back then; look at how tough a man had to be, even a regular guy back then had to be a lot tougher than a regular man today. If a man back then wanted to have a decent life he had to have a mean streak just to survive!
tf are you talking about. They hung murderers back then and earp was wanted in multiple states. They reviled the people who are mythologised now like earp, billy the kid, jesse james, frank james, the clantons, clay allison
Nicholas Earp (originally Harp) was asked rather firmly to leave Monmouth, Illinois for running a bordello, gambling hall, and saloon on the town square. Just blocks from the Methodist Church. And was open on Sundays. I have heard from other Earp descendants that Old Man Earp was offered a tar and feather bath if he didn’t hit the road. By the by, the Earps descended from a Sargent in George, Washington’s army at Yorktown. And, the first Earp came to the American Colonies as an indentured servant in either 1630 or 1670. The original family name was Harp, members of the Campbell of Argyll family of S.W. Scotland. He was convicted of murder and was given the option of hanging or becoming a “slave” in Virginia.
What happened in Tombstone was a war between 2 separate organized crime factions.
Can you please do a video about Bloody Bill Anderson out of Missouri? I enjoy your videos about the Old West.
Thanks,
John
So interesting
Wyatt Earp was noble in that he never looked for trouble even though trouble seemed to follow him due to his lifestyle
Wyatt Earp was not the paragon of virtue he was more or less a man of his time and upbringing. His true character will probably never be known.
most people werent sex traffickers, card cheats and murderers
Being from Illinois i remember the only sign i ever saw in Monmouth Illinois birth place of Wyatt Earp was a dairy queen that had a sign saying "birth place of Wyatt Earp ".
Wyatt met the cowboys face to face, outnumbered 5 to 4. The cowboys never did the same...always trying to sneak up on them. Like cowards, the cowboys shot into a building at the unarmed Earps playing billards night, killing Morgan. Its all we need to know.
I don't think we should judge any people or events of the past in comparison to the present day. Times were very different. The only thing I really wish to know is the tune Doc was whistling on the way to the OK Corral.
oh really? You think they thought murder was ok? You think they thought sex trafficking was ok? You think they thought openly corrupt police (the earps) were ok??
50s TV shaved Wild Bill, Wyatt, and Bat Masterson. Bat did shave when he was a sports writer in New York City.
I am a new subscriber to True West and am overjoyed! How do I get back issues? Also what is the name of the new noncomic book Billy the kid book? I want to buy it. I watched Hugh O'Brian and all the cowboy shows of the 50s and 60s! What a great time!!
If Wyatt was so unpopular in town, why was he good friends with such luminaries as Gage, Vizina, Clum, Gird, and others?
I believe Wyatt was a good lawman, but that he was human, and did plenty of unseemly things, as well. For example, he made a fortune dealing faro, and faro is almost an even money game (despite what Doc says in Tombstone.) Therefore, he ran a crooked faro table.
I've been fortunate to exchange ideas with people on the extreme of both sides, such as the lovely Joyce Aros, and Ben Traywick. I really believe the truth is somewhere in the middle.
As Bob said, we can all be jerks sometimes!
But I disagree that Wyatt was ever a "pimp." A man who runs a legal bordello, or even an illegal one, is a businessman. A pimp runs girls in the street. Wyatt was certainly a bouncer, but prostitution was just a part of life in the Old West. Being involved didn't make you a bad man.
As always, another great episode, Bob! Thanks!
I was wanting to read the actual articles about the gunfight in the two newspapers - do you know where I c an find them?
My last comment today was that Jon behan or however you spell it told Virgil while he was recuperating from his wound from the fight that it was legitimate arrest and he was on their side until he found out during the next election he was going to have to go against Wyatt Earp all the sudden he changed his tune
Thank you for a nice and in-depth presentation. For the last few years, I have taken Wyatt from hero to a guy who was far less than a law-abiding citizen and time has made him far more of a hero than he was. Just the fact that he had a murder warrant out on him would be enough to put him in the bad boy category.
Getting revenge by killing murdering gangsters who are terrorizing your town and are protected by crooked politicians who later have you charged for murder does not make you a bad guy. You sir are a buffoon
He was a hero, why stir it up! Let it be bud! Bless.
There is a man and there is a legend, somewhere between that you’ll fine the truth.
The Earp's glaring character flaws and dodgy history are why they remain such interesting characters.
I wasn't there, and couldn't really judge, anyway. That said, it appears, from what I have read and heard on these videos, that Earp was an opportunist who wasn't terribly concerned with which way the legal winds blew, as long as he came out looking good, and on top.
Mr. Bell, I too am a historian and a decorated Policeman from Dayton, Ohio. It bothers me that you put Wyatt Earp in the darkest light possible. It was a different time in the old west, yes Wyatt and his brothers were not perfect, but compared to the Clanton gang who stole cattle, robbed stage coaches, murdered people, the Earps were angels. Here's the bottom line Bob, the Earps went up against the scumbags when others were too afraid. They were on the right side of justice! Wild Bill Hickock was no angel either, but he too stood up against evil like I did where most men were faint of heart we stood our ground!
Hey, Bob, check out the Earp home in Monmouth,Illinois.
Warren County where my Dad was born.