We May Have Found Why Some Black Holes Get So Huge
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I love how we can follow the advancement of our knowledge even inside this channel. A few months ago Anton was talking about we don't know how these blackholes can grow so big, now we might have an answer. So satisfying.
@György Mohl we think anyway, I’m always a little bit skeptical when there’s a new revelation in physics, there’s a bit of house of cards at work, much is based on existing assumptions and just tweaking the base assumption a little bit affects everything.
@@shelbyz1988 - M77 is 47 mLYs away? Even if it points right at us it will be 47 million years in our future.
There is no such thing as black holes. You guys need to look into plasma cosmology and the electric Universe. It explains all these things that these insane mathematicians have had to come up with. Magical imaginary constructs on top of another on top of another on top of another to explain things. They're already like 15 imaginary constructs deep. And none of them can be demonstrated in the real world. Pure nonsense.
@@Will_Wel Black holes are not imaginary, they're just fucking dense objects. But well, clearly not as dense as you are.
@@Will_Wel what are they?
I love coming home from school and seeing this right away! I am truly happy to watch these.
Nerd
Way to go kiddo!!! Keep feeding your brain with the good stuff!!!
@@BillFromTheHill100 really dude?
That's exactly what i'm doing rn
@@BlackZar84
No sense of humor?
Nerds are people too.
There is something about hearing "Hello wonderful person" that makes my day. Hello wonderful people! Glad to be learning new things with ya.
Anton, you are an excellent & wonderful science communicator. Keep up this fascinating work!
Whenever I watch this show it puts me in the mood to watch Star Trek Enterprise when they were still just exploring the nearby region of space, and all the local solar systems.
Yeah I'm looking forward to the new star trek Picard
@@lor05 Totally. I think I'd give up every other movie or TV series before losing them. They fill me with so much awe and wonder.
@@Tempus8Fugit Awww hell yes! That looks amazing! And dark.
@@Martial-Mat Discovory season 3 will be great too ,can't wait
@@Tempus8Fugit I've really loved Discovery. Thought it was adult and sophisticated. Can't understand the hate.
These videos always blow my mind but when he described m77 as being a tad closer, at 47 million light years my head about exploded. 47 million years at the speed of light to get there. The universe just amazes me. Great work sir!
Right! I can barely comprehend the size of the Earth. Let alone 47 million light years towards that galaxy x.x
Just mind blowing.
And that's just the local universe; how about thousands of million years to reach the edge of the visible universe?
What really blows my mind is that photons don’t experience time. Every unimpeded photon racing from one end of the universe to the other, experiences the entirety of known existence in an instant.
@@usernamesrlamo - That's still a matter of debate, as they don't have rest mass, however it's logical to think that that is the case.
always loved astronomy. love your channel as a source of learning. love your energy, your personality, soul, however we put it; you make learning fun. also you remind me that i am wonderful. it can stop me being down, it can make me appreciate my better qualities when i am up. it is an affirmation that works. so glad you do what you do. i would like to learn some things about the person (you) behind the teacher. maybe one day, when i get my own channel up and running, i could interview you. peace and love, my brother in the stars. thank you.
Thank you for your hard work, it´s really beautifull to follow you....
Loving your content as always Anton. Informative and fun in equal measure.
@Cosmic Landscape Your mum doesn't think so. Though the best part of you ran down her leg.
Why do you support antifa if you do?
@@johnoswald7573 That's not a simple thing to explain. It's far too nuanced and complicated a topic to go through in a few characters in a RUclips comments section. To try and explain it as short and succinctly as possible. I mean to start with I've had this as my avatar for around 10 years and most people didnt know wtf it even was till the MSM started bleating about it in like the last 2 years or so. People are supposed to hate Nazis though. It should be the default position. Like not even a question. I've encountered genuine sig heil, nazi saluting, fascist assholes and they have a physical agenda. If you are anything other than a WASP they will quite happily engage in intimidation and physical violence. I believe that physical agenda has to be met physically. I've been to quite a few marches, protests all kinds of gatherings some political some not where there are people who dont fit into that straight, white, narrow idea of what's acceptable to Nazis and other fascists and many of those people either cannot or ethically will not defend themselves. I consider it my duty to defend them. Otherwise I'm failing as a human being. Most people that make idiotic comments on RUclips litterally wouldn't know the first thing about the political, social or philosophical ideas that encompass parts of the Anti fascist ideology (just to be clear I'm not referring to you. Yours seemed like a simple and honest enquiry). In fact I'd go as far to say most of then can barely distinguish their ass from their elbow. Theres actually a lot more too it than this. One day I'll make a video that explains my positions or you'll see me in a live stream and if there's time I can explain in more detail. Also most peoples knowledge of ANTIFA comes from either the MSM or a RUclips video made by someone who doesn't know the first thing about what they're talking about and/or got their information from the MSM. Also to say I "Support ANTIFA" is incoherent since ANTIFA isn't a group its just a position in relation to Fascism that's it
@Cosmic Landscape Of course because it's so much better to make apologies for Nazis 🤦♂️. If you're not willing to defend yourself in the face of violence then more fool you. My position is in contravention of neither law or morality. It's also hilarious that you had to thumb up your own post 🤣
Thanks Anton super interesting stuff!
The demoscene intro music gets me every freakin time Anton .)
Keep up the good work mate !
I love your videos Anton, you make fascinating yet very complex subjects easy to understand, thank you!
I wonder if the poles of a black hole flip like the Earth or Suns poles. As it flips its jet streams cut through the Galaxy causing new spiral arm shapes. Great video!
ASTRONOMERS HAVE COME UP WITH NEW CONCEPT TO EXPLAIN THIS. IT IS CALLED JOBBY MATTER. JOBBY MATTER HAS HIDDEN PROPERTIES WHICH CANNOT BE OBSERVED BUT CAN ADD MASS TO A BLACK HOLE TO MAKE IT SEEM HEAVIER THEN IT ACTUALLY IS. OTHER PROPERTIES OF JOBBY MATTER IS IT GIVES OF JOBBY ENERGY WHICH GIVES OF LIGHT TO MAKE IT BRIGHTER BUT NO ENERGY IS ACTUALLY GIVEN OFF AS HJOBBY MATTER ONLY ACTS ON SOLID STATE DETECTORS IN A GHOSTLY MANNER. JOBBY MATTER AND JOBBY ENERGY WILL BE DETECTED BY BUILDING A VERY LARGE TELESCOPE COVERING THE ENTIRE PACIFIC OCEAN AND WILL ONLY REQUIRE 700 BILLION OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS TO DETECT.
I wish RUclips let me “love” a video. Because this has been a question I’ve always wondered and have done a ton of self research on. Well explained Anton
Questions
1. is gravity the cause of the counter rotating mass?
2. do black holes hide / conceal / antimatter, can it convert regular matter to antimatter?
great episode
I take comfort in knowing that you scientists don't understand more than you do understand, cause the last time you all understood something we ended up with nuclear weapons.
Thanks Anton, you're doing a great job.
I think the electric universe theory is spot on and I think black holes are dead grounds......
8:14 Isn't that _exactly_ how a DC electric motor works?
No
@Banyuaigo Have you heard of Ken Wheeler at Theoria Apophasis channel?
@@JennySimon206
Ah...Thoria Apophasis...the guy that calls everyone an idiot in every video. Perfecto.
@@JennySimon206 there is apophasis.. its similar or the same as primer fields theory.. and now comes a classical scholar and tells us they may found a solution. . Haha.. odd world we life in
Really interesting, Anton! Thanks! 😊
I feel extremely proud of humanity when watching these videos lol
You do not know the people who make these discoveries.
@@VicariousReality7 what do you mean?
@@VicariousReality7 Yeah, but do you?
@@VicariousReality7 I don’t know any aliens either
Keeping my addiction fed Anton...thanks!
Oooo so nice. I was thinking just that at the beginning of video.
To feed black hole faster you need to interfere with orbit of accretion disk and galaxy around it. Two galaxies collide with opposite rotation and done.
Good advice, maybe I should try that next time.
I can understand why Anton is so excited about this discovery, it explain his opening video sequence.
Maybe the black holes were always there and our Universe opened around them?
Maybe black holes created the universe
Wow you’re getting so popular keep grinding man u almost 500.000 subs
Messier was a comet hunter. After mistaking some fuzzy objects for a comet one time to many, he started compiling a personal «comet like catalogue». He then published it to help fellow comet hunters. The result is a collection of some of the most beautiful objects in the sky.
The potential is staggering. I'm enjoying the theories cropping up.
My theory is that these colossal giants from the first generation of stars because it’s theorized were easily bigger than the largest star we’ve found. If that’s the case then they would have had billions of years to accumulate mass though either colliding with other black holes or swallowing massive stars
that is a truly beautiful explanation.
Anton... I love that T-Shirt, but I'll only buy one if it has that pic of you pointing and saying hello on the back of it too!!!!
Great content as usual, Anton-thanks. I'm very much a learner, but does it make any sense that gigantics would have been more likely to form in the Universe's early times because there was more matter near them? In middle & recent times, the expansion has resulted in a much lower density of matter, so more difficult for BHs find big bites to swallow.
" see this thing here ? We know very little about it. But it's going to kill us. That's all for today!" Lol. Typical Anton. I gotta admit, I've never watched so much content about our own demise, and really felt good at the end 🤣🤣 you make extinction happy and fun
thanks for the video Anton!
Anton you mention "get ready." I'd like to see some videos where you talk in detail about what you mean by that. Like do you mean get to where we can start launching generation seed ships in all directions asap? What sort of program would you suggest?
Scorched by the jetstream from a quasar - now that's a way for a man to go! - Leslie Nielsen.
Surely you jest.
@@debralucas2224 ...
"No... and stop calling me Shirley."
Can you please talk about quantum vacuum plasma and the analogous physics of warped drives and QVP metric density? It's all I think about.
Could the counter rotation within galaxies have some similarity with Birkeland currents..at a huge scale?
Inconceivable!
Correct, Absolutely
Big fan bro
Love your work
Can you please make a video to explain why there's an extra day in February every 4 years Scientifically
There's no counter rotation, : when in the supergravitation field of a black hole things appear to be moving backwards as the angular momentum of a black hole exceeds C to the observer
Seriously?? Why do some people dislike your videos lol your content of space news is awesome!
Stars differ in their densities, so the Roche limit distance for stars will be different too. This can make a black hole have several different accretion disks at different distances, and there is no special reason that they should all have the same inclinations.
Simply put, we have no clue. The big bang theory falls apart more and more as we learn more about the Universe.
It makes sense that for a black hole with low spin that it may not be possible for the Planck core to breach the event horizon. Thus the black hole continues to grow without venting Planck plasma.
Anton. The fractal paradigm explains this very nicely. The earlier universe only "appears" much BIGGER because..the CURRENT universe is, for all intents and purposes, MUCH SMALLER than the previous universe. The universal measuring stick (pixel) is continuously shrinking. This is what Alice in Wonderland was all about. JUST THINK ABOUT IT. You know I am right.
Anton, I have a question for you... what happened to the rest of the system when Alderaan was blown up in Star Wars? Did it affect the orbits of the other planets? Thanks, you're my only hope!
Alderaan never existed in the first place. It was a hologram created by the original dark lord. The ultimate disrupting _smoke screen_ to the jedi force.
If the mass was still basically there then it shouldn't have any effect. The planet was blown apart but was still remained as a dense asteroid feild.
But beyond that, if you take our solar system as an example, if you removed earth it would make basically no difference to the orbits of the other planets. In comparison to the sun we are meaningless. For instance the sun burns 5 million tons of hydrogen each second, it's seriously huge and accounts for the bulk of the gravity in the system.
@@Jake12220 I'm curious about the distribution of the debris being flung in every direction, many of those directions leads to other orbits which includes those that eject from the system.
As for those other planets, what if they had civilization? Imagine THAT meteor shower!
Much of the life in that system would be at risk similar to the late bombardment.
Nah, it was a false flag operation. Just look at how different the latest footage was compared to the initial broadcast, looks completely different if you ask me. Call me crazy, but I suspect the whole thing was made up using Hollywood special effects (and that Kubrik or Lucas were involved). Alderaan is still there.
Loved alderaan in Star wars old republic 💓
Anton that was a black bubble , the bigger a black hole gets the more hollow it becomes as it gets bigger it opens up on one of its poles bigger then both poles bigger then a band like the one the universe is in.
The last stages of a Snickers Bar galaxy becoming an All Day Sucker. As could be predicted by Prof Merrifield.
Once again an AMAZING VIDEO
Would be lovely to hear about the Parker Solar Probe. :)
Request (probably heard this one before). Lets go a mere 8 LY away and re-examine Sirius! And compare notes with the Dogon. Is it really a Star System of Three? A Large Star, a Neutron Star and a White Dwarf? Are there really planets where they said there are?
The thing is, we could be so early in the Universe that we don't notice and black holes that powerful could be still able to form.
Idk why, but that title made me laugh for some reason
Yeah I kind of like the yellow ones.
Do we just watch exactly the same content or are you legitimately everywhere?
Hypermassive black holes are more of saviors than weaker ones. Being able to attract lots of matter while giving out the same amount to keep a galaxy stable.
Another great video! I wish I can be around when we finally figure out what blackholes are and what they are doing. But I suspect when we leave this life, we will have those answers when we return to our spiritual home.
Lol, this last picture is perfect.
Hi thank you for your information and insight.
So, that second galaxy with the active core counter-rotation? Isn't it just positioned on a multilayered birkeland current, each layer rotating oppositely? Seems more likely, especially give how active it is: it's being forcefed dust and energy via the filament.
6:45 pay attention, Anton!
Yea, bit of a blooper there. It's still okay.
russia is on the other side of the globe, remember. up is down and down is up
lmfao
@@insanebmxthomas - He's Canadian Russian.
I'm just glad this thing is very far away!
QUESTION: Is Hawking radiation hypothesized to emit in all directions from a black hole equally, or is hawking radiation expected to be emitted asymmetrically such as more at the poles or equator line?
You make my day Anton!!
Ah thats such a nice sounding solution. It almost seems too simple to not have already been figured out.
Hypothesis and theory are different. Scientists probably had this idea for a while, but it probably has a good amount of evidence to support it now.
I might be out on a limb, but maybe some of those supermassive primordial black holes ate most of the antimatter early in the universe's evolution.
What would happen if antimatter fell into a black hole? The same as what happens with normal matter.
In the early universe, the very first black holes could have formed from both normal and antimatter.
So there are many possibilities, and the one in this video is just one of many.
Merçi i like my Space trip with wath that math your good to me at 65 my eyes are up there merci
That shirt is lit!
Your videos are better than Carl Sagan Kudos love your channel 😀👍
2 different gas clouds falling in. Same with odd ball planetary orbits in solar systems. But these odd ball orbits get illuminated.
Love the show! But whys it called "what the math" when you never talk about the math or numhers behind comprehending these topics lol
Well basically science = math. Remember when your science teacher got all excited when they got to say their first smart thing to you and your new class? "Science = math :D"
Class: *dead silence and very unamused*
Teacher: wait you guys dont like math? But math is amazing! You can do anything with it! Everything = math! :D
Class: *really starting to get annoyed already*
101 how to become the school's most hated teacher.
Unless you are Anton. Because Anton actually knows how to make light of subjects and still keep it interesting. Also, Anton has the "what the math" quote, but doesnt force math on us. (Thanks for that btw Anton, your way of explaining things works much better for most people lol)
Its just a popular saying. And science = actually math. But you dont have to use math to explain it lol
@@xylisisvarlett3734 I'm not bashing him at all, I love his videos, I was just curious lol seems contradictory
@@mikec3201 yeah i wasnt implying you bashing, i was just over-explaining something that cpuld have been said in 3 lines.
Probably cuz i just woke up then xD
Amazing video!
Watching this fascinating channel, my stomach turns . I feel completely "nihilified" in this universe where there is always something bigger. These big black holes are like the predators hunting the poor innocent galaxies, who knows with life in it.
They can be my predator, and stalk me. I will try my best to play hard to get but no promises.
Thanks for the daily uploads. I’m the smartest one in my group of friends because of you!:)
But how this explains the angular impulse of Powehi, that's very close to the upper limit of how much a black hole can have? I don't think that counter-rotating accretion disks can explain this well.
If the early universe comprised a lot of matter and antimatter, they might have been pulled together at fast enough pace thet black holes could form before annihilation. Maybe beyond the event horizon annihilation took place, but the released energy was now trapped inside the black hole, in a sort of Kugelblitz.
Birkeland Current shows counter rotation which has z pinch in the center, gravitational model does not support counter rotation.
You did not explain anything, only told scientist don't know what they are seeing.
Nice narrative
Oh the. Wonderful mysteries.
Right next to this video on my feed is a video of Irish people trying Crispy Creme donuts for the first time with the picture of a donut right next to this lol
the counter rotation points to the Birkeland Current
Question: If jets are formed by the magnetic field of a black hole then would that be a stronger force then the gravity?? I mean does mass traveling into the black hole change direction by the force of the magnetic field
Afaik incoming mass is consumed & assimilated-think Borg!-which results in different mass being ejected. Eg swallow a planet, burp a gas cloud ☺
Electromagnetic forces are often stronger than gravity. That's why black holes can generate the polar jets: material in the accretion disk interacts with itself and generates heat and a powerful em field. The em field is then dragged around by the rotating black hole gravity (spacetime drag), in such a way that the field lines become spirals around an imaginary cylinder passing through the black hole poles. This cylinder is the corridor in which the jets are organized and accelerated.
The matter that forms the jets comes directly from the accretion disk, following the em field lines. Particles that respond more to gravity and less to em fields do not end in the jets and get swallowed by the bh.
@@thenasadude6878 Interesting, thanks. So the material which comes "out of" a BH never actually goes "into" the BH in the first place, but gets redirected by the EM forces.
black holes must vent some where ! or is it possible inside a black hole environment very calm and a new galaxy forms within
Or maybe black hole can thin and stretch like a spaghetti, escaping trough galactic poles.
Wonderful person! Space out!
if black holes have been around since the beginning of the universe, and if the universe is expanding, its reasonable to assume that at one point in time there could have been many black holes close enough to one another to eat each other and keep enough matter orbiting it to keep getting bigger and bigger over the billions of years the universe has been around.
The actual picture shows a shiny origin of the stream. What appears black when telescopes pierce into view of the star, is that it is in such high energy state, that the waves it emanates, goes beyond visible light. So when we look, we see nothing.
I figure it would be somewhere in the x-ray to gamma-ray area, that would be the frequency where the star makes itself visible for us.
The shiny part of the picture is the same effect as the suns upper chromosphere effect where the temperature goes up 1 000 000 Kelvin whereas the surface is at 6 000 Kelvin. That is the inertia effect when matter slows down very fast, that concentrates the energy and temp goes up.
Now, we see the same thing in the picture. What emanates from the star, slows down in its upper chromosphere and becomes visible. When we view the star closer, everything in it is soo extremely intense its energy state is way off for us to see.
What kind of sub human would dislike this gem of a humanbeings work?
Good theory i thought since there was nothing around to get sucked in so early to make them grow that many black holes must have been there bevor the stars. Like. Maybe parts of one big structure that ripped apart somehow.
What if entire universe was black hole... Mind blown
On M-77 - I don't suppose an umbrella would help?
I always wonder what if a black hole was in the center of a lot of hard mass like metal that's all solid or if something that don't break up so easily would cover it like picture a black hole size of golf ball then the something the size of earth solid metal mass went through it or shot through
Very interesting. I do find myself wondering, is there any way to tell if our galaxy has a counter-rotating core to it too?
It’s the once on the lips, forever on the hips paradox
good videos they are all very interesting
Any good astrophysicist worth their salt will always end the presentation with, ' And it could kill us all, thank you, take care."
I like your tshirt!
HOW BLACK HOLES GET SO HUGE ? Throw a USB stick with all of Anton's Black Holes videos into one - just see what happens !
Probably it will be bigger than the Milky Way judging by the amount of content he has .
The USB stick was about the weight of a neutron star last time I tried to pick it up so estimates might be very close .
Makes me wonder how much missing mass is really just in black holes
I wonder that too. I bet the ultra massive black holes have lots of missing mass. It disappears never to be seen again. Oh man I can't take it no more. I want to disappear inside one, to feel it's power to be apart of its acreation disk. Oh here I go again, time for the lotion.
I think the general idea is that most massive black holes resides in galaxies in which case their mass is not missing. Meaning, their mass is accounted for when measuring the mass of galaxies.
perhaps the black hole is spinning in the opposite direction to the accretion disc?
You make this call center agent not want to neck himself...
A very tough order to fulfill
Congrats your content is amazing!
Just do it. You obviously don't value life enough to escape such an obvious hell.
Big If True But then I wouldnt be able to read such insightful comments
Is it possible that some primeval black holes were already supermassive and they've been around since?