ஸங்கீதமும் வைணவமும் | Svairalapam | Ep- 11| Sri Bharathan Swami with Paravastu Varadarajan
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- In this episode of Svairalapam, Sri U. Ve. Bharatan Swami explains the eternal relationship between music and Srivaishnava Sampradayam.
ஸ்வைராலாபத்தின் இந்தப் பதிவில் ஸங்கீதத்துக்கும் ஶ்ரீவைஷ்ணவ ஸம்ப்ரதாயத்துக்கும் உள்ள தொடர்பைப் பற்றி விவரிக்கிறார் ஶ்ரீ உ. வே. பரதன் ஸ்வாமி.
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0:00- Intro
2:30 - Vedas (Sama veda) and Music
8:00 - Sriramayana and music
9:20 - What is a Raga?
10:15 - Aahaa!
11:15 - What is Sangeetam?
12:50 - Music in Varahapuranam
15:30 - Kaisika Ragam
18:00 - Music in dailylife
19:28- Purpose of music
20:18 - Music in Yagas
21:50 - Temples and music
28:30 - A beautiful anecdote
35:50 - Music and Bhakthi, etc
42:04 - Nathamuni's contribution
43:25 - Divyaprabandham in Srivaishnava temples
46:40 - Carnatic music and Divyaprabandhams
47:10 - Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Aiyengar
48:45 - A beautiful anecdote
50:52 - Azhwars,etc and Music
52:55 - Araiyar Sevai
56:25 - Srivaishnava contribution to music (Annamacharya, Ramadasa,etc)
1:01:32 - Krishna, Saraswati ,Narada,etc
1:04:10 - Swami's composition
1:13:50 - Advice to music enthusiasts
1:16:10 - Music saves a life!
1:20:30 - Swami sings...
1:24:05 - Outro
#podcast #music #Svairalapam #carnaticmusic #bhakthimusic
Highly engaging information, amazing anecdotes and melodious rendition, of course! Every Svairalapam episode keeps reminding us that "கற்றது கை மண்ணளவு. கல்லாதது உலகளவு." Dhanyasmi, Swami. Adiyen Ramanujadasi. 🙏🏼
I am from Mudaliar, we should go back to conserving ancient craftmanship through transmission father son varna system, not only joblessness will vanquish but also local people will remain in their own localité without going long.. distances and risking loss of roots IF British had not painted our tradition in Black, we would be continuing those beautiful traditions ❤
beg to differ sir, I believe that was not appropriate for everyone. And moreover that was not even the topic relevant to the above video! Had that system not existed many like me will not be suffering today
Nice to know about the musical journey of our religion, culture, .....Excellent musical interview.
அதி அற்புதமான Broadcast. அடியேன்!. தன்யோஸ்மி
சங்கீதம், நாட்டியம் ஆகியவற்றை வைணவத்துடன் தொடர்புறுத்தி மிக மிக தெளிவாக எடுத்துரைக்கப்பட்டது. மேலாக சன்னிதிகளில் சங்கீதம் எவ்வாறு தொடர்புடையது என்பதை மிகத்தெளிவாக எடுத்துரைத்தது மிகவும் ச்ரேஷ்டம். மனதை தொட்டது.
தன் யோஸ்மி ஸ்வாமி
Heart breaking, to hear.the 'sacrifice' of good conduct, to maintain the tradition ,, pancha mukha vadhyam .
I am touched.
அடியேன்🙏🏻ஸ்ரீவைஷ்ணவ ஸம்பிரதாயத்தின் தாத்பர்யமான நாம் செய்யும் ஒவ்வொரு செயலும் பகவானின் முகோல்லாசத்திற்காக இருக்க வேண்டும் என்னும் சீரிய கருத்தினை எடுத்துரைத்த உ வே பரதன் ஸ்வாமிகளுக்கு பல்லாண்டு🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
நம் ஸம்பிரதத்தை சீர்குலைக்க வேண்டுமென சில காலம் ஆட்சி செய்த மேலை நாட்டவர்கள் செய்த செயலால் மக்கள் மனதில் தவறான எண்ணங்களை விதைத்து விட்டனர். .21.50. காலம் தான் இதற்கு பதில் சொல்ல வேண்டும்.
Really absorbing interview bringing out intertwined relationship between our Sampradya and the music.
Thanks to all for the grand interview .
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மிக மிக அருமை.
அடியேன்.
Isai padi padi...the final word!❤❤❤
Adhi arpudam 🎉🙏🙏🙏💐
Adiyean Dasaan Swamy
Sevichukrean Swamy🙏
Emperumannar Thiruvadigal charanam
Adiyean Ramanuja Dassan
Arumai swamy
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Azhwar Emperumannar Jeeyer Thiruvadigal charanam
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அடியேன். நமஸ்காரம். அதி ஆஸ்சர்யமான podcast! Need of the hour! பரமக்ருபை🙏
adiyen Pranamangal Swamin 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Arumai arumai perumal miga
Ugandar
Very nice programme.
Vidwad dwayangaz
Thiruvadigazil namangaz
Good service.
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What an explanation ultimately everything is Lord Narayana. Presentday confusion this is a full stop.Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha.
Excellent swamy ,previously have heard swami s upanyasams ,but such wonderful musician he is this combination is superb feast to our ears especially divyaprabhandam , dhanyosmi and nannri to both swami s thanks again and again a treat indeed
அதி அற்புதம் ஸ்வாமி 🙏🙏 அநேக விஷயங்கள் கற்று கொடுத்து உன்னத அனுபவத்தை
தந் துள்ளீர்கள் 🙏
தன்யோஸ்மி ஸ்வாமி 🙏🙏
Super super super swamy s
Super program
Namasthe
Very informative upload.
Thank you
Adiyen.
Adiyen namaskaram. Vinjamuri varadaraja iyengar avargal adiyenodaya thatha. Romba sirappana sangeetham - vainavam vyakhyanam.
Correct podcast at correct time
We feel really blessed that Our father Sir .Vinjamuri Verdaraja Iyengar"s comment was mentioned in this ptrogram. Thank you sir ! Namaskarams from Vinjamuri Family .
Adiyen ramanuja Dasan acharyan thiruvadigalukku namaskarangal adiyen swamy
Beautiful explanation. Awaiting for more podcast to know about our சம்ப்ரதாயம்
Swamy adiyen regularly watch all your podcosts and adiyen really enjoy listening to your podcast. It is full of very relevant, meaningful and helpful information. I am so grateful to you for putting this together. Thanks!!!!
Informative ,Impressive podcast about the greatness of Sangeetham & Bhakthi tradition in our culture with such a clarity.Thanks a ton for sharing this awesome lec-dem.adyen Narayanan Vedantham
I really enjoyed the information. Please do more
Adiyen Ramanuja dasan.. Sangeetha mazhaiyil anubavithu maghizndhom. Dhanyosmi .Pallandu Pallandu to the lotus feet of devareer gal.Bhagyam and Parama kirupai devarrergal
Srimathe ramanujaya namah
Music defines the Almighty....
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Super
Music is the base of bhakti...
Adiyen Raghu Rama Dasan. Very informative and insightful program. Thank you for bringing forth the great links between Sampradayam and sangeetham. Missed one element however. The contribution of the Dasa sahithya from Purandara , Kanaka and so many dasas whose sahithyams are towards Emperuman.
Adiyen. The contribution of people like Purandara dasa is undeniable. But this episode is limited to the relationship between Srivaishnava sampradayam and Sangeetham.
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Adiyenin namaskarankal
Bilahar( namimg)i raga for marai malai ,oriigin is interesting.
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AdiyEn dhAsan 🙏🏼 Interesting to find that Panchamukha vAdhyam was used in Srivaishnava temples too 🙏🏼🙏🏼
The person interviewed, used to play the panchamukha vadyam in Thiruvarur Kamalamba temple. Swami has used the words Bhagavat kainkaryam and emberuman in a broader sense with the following pramanam in mind - 'आकाशात् पतितं तोयं यथा गच्छति सागरम्। सर्वदेवनमस्कार: केशवं प्रति गच्छति।।' which means, salutations done towards all the other deities eventually reach Bhagavan. Adiyen
@@Bhakthamrutham kshamikka prArthikkirEn swAmi 🙏🏼🙏🏼 AdiyEn
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அடியேன். ஸ்ரீமதே ராமாநுஜாய நம: பாக்யம். தன்யோஸ்மி
Can you please make another complete English podcast related to this topic?
Nava tirupathi le rettai tirupathi experience Athi arbhutham. Music epperu pattavangaliyum Katti pottudum . Swamy ungal paadal svarasyama irundhudhu.
Adiyen dasan swamy
35:48
will this also get to Spotify? much appreciated.
நன்றாக இருந்தது.தியாகப்ரமம் நாதோபாஸனையை ரொம்ப ஸ்லாகித்திருக்கிறார்.தேவரீர் ,ஸ்வாமிகளை இன்னும் கொஞ்சம் பாடச்சொல்லியிருக்கலாம்.
Namaskarm - Is it possible to do some of the episodes in English or Hindi? I
Adiyen could not pause the podcast when I started listening.....
As if adiyen sitting in the 3rd chair.....
Krupai....
Are you from Adyar?
Can you please give the details of the paasuram sung by the Aacharyan? Great knowledge. Namaskarams to all
Which pasuram?
அரயர் சுவாமிகள் அபிநயம் படித்தது பகவான் அதற்கு பதில் சென்னது பாசுரம். ஆச்சார்யன் திருமொழி என்று சொன்னார்
நெய்வளம் நாராயணா, அமமனே அப்பூச்சி காட்டுவது, வாசுதேவன் வளைவுளே பாசுரஙகள்
வெண்ணீல வேதாப்பு at 1:18;05
வேதங்களை ஸ்வாமி விவரித்தார். அதில் பிராமணம் என்று குறிப்பிட்டார். அது ப்ராமணமா அல்லது ப்ரமாணமா?
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நாதமுனிகள் செய்தது தேவகானம்....அது இன்றைய கர்நாடக இசையிலிருந்து வேறுபட்டது என்று பெரியோர் சொல்ல கேட்டிருக்கிறேன் ...
தேவ கானம் தெரிந்தவர்கள் இன்று இருக்கிறார்களா என்பது தெரியாது...
அரையர் சேவை என்பதே வைணவத்தில் இன்று நம்மிடம் இருக்கும் இசை ...அதுவே நாதமுனிகள் வழி வந்தது அல்லவா
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Swamy.. I very respectfully disagree with you. Emberuman is the only upayam for moksha is an undeniable and undatable truth 🙏 But emberuman is not just archaa , you know that. Emberumanum is also in the form of sound or naadam. As azvar says வேதத்தை வேததின் சுவை பயனை. If a guNa of prithivi can be used for making a archa, definetly a guNa of Akasha can definitely be used as a pratiikam for emberuman. He is in the form of praNava. Udayavar elaborates this in detail in Shri Bhashyam. It is incorrect to say Nadopasam is not a moksha margam. Even as per Shri Vaishnava Sampradayam if Nadam is understood as emperuman, it is definitely a moksha marga and there are Shruti, Smriti, Itihasa PramaNam for this. 🙏
Let us humbly answer all your points. Adiyen
1) "Emberuman is the only upayam for moksha is an undeniable and undatable truth"
Answer- If you believe that 'Bhagavan is the only Upayam' why do you go on to say that Nadopasanam is also a moksham margam?
2)"But emberuman is not just archaa, you know that. Emberumanum is also in the form of sound or naadam. As azvar says
Answer - Bhagavan takes the archa form but does not take the form of sound because only dravyam can be shareeram, not a gunam (quality). 'यस्य चेतनस्य यद् *द्रव्यम्* .....’
Please go thru the commentary of the quoted pasuram before using that to substantiate your claims.
3) If a guNa of prithivi can be used for making a archa, definetly a guNa of Akasha can definitely be used as a pratiikam for emberuman.
Answer - No Guna can ever be Bhagavan's divyamangalavigraha. A part of Panchabhutham can be used to make Bhagavan's divyamangalavigraha. Qualities can never become divyamangalavigraha. Shruthaprakashikacharya says 'गुणक्रियादेरद्रव्यतया शरीरत्वायोगात्'.
4) He is in the form of praNava. Udayavar elaborates this in detail in Shri Bhashyam.
Answer - Bhagavan is expounded by the pranava but it cannot be Bhagavan's shareeram. Try going thru Shruthaprakashika of Antaryamyadhikaranam.
5) It is incorrect to say Nadopasanam is not a moksha margam. Even as per Shri Vaishnava Sampradayam if Nadam is understood as emperuman, it is definitely a moksha marga and there are Shruti, Smriti, Itihasa PramaNam for this.
Answer - Going by all the arguments made above, it's clear that pranavam or any other Shabdam cannot be Bhagavan's divyamangalavigraha. So, meditating on any shabdam as brahmam is a Prateekopasanam. Prateekopasanam is such an upasanam in which someone meditates on something (which is not brahmam) as brahmam. (Ironically, you have used the word 'pratika' in your comment). In Karyadhikaranam, Ramanujacharya, while commenting on the sutra 'Aprateekaalambanaan nayati...', has clearly mentioned parateekopasanas don't yield moksham.
@@Bhakthamrutham wonderful explanations Swamy. Danyoham 🙏
@@BhakthamruthamSwamy. 🙏Asking this for clarity. Does Shri Vaishnava sampradaya disagree with the Purva miimamsa position that idam Vishnu…. Mantra itself is Vishnu.? In Purva Miimamsa all the Veda mantras are devata eva. Please clarify 🙏
Adiyen. Yes, we disagree with their position. Poorva Meemamsakas consider Devatas to be shabdasvaroopa. But we Vedantins consider Devatas to be different from shabda. They have bodies, knowledge, ability, etc which enable them to perform various actions. Refer to Devataadhikaranam in Sribhashyam.
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