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I remember Mike Morgan did a tractor vs skid steer video a while back and he made a good point. The skid steer is built around the loader and the tractor is built around the PTO, and it’s loader is an extra feature. It’s not meant to lift copius amounts compared to the skid steer. Any ways , always enjoy these types of videos Brock. I can tell you take pride in them
I think you did a great job explaining a not so easy to understand subject. The subject is not hard to grasp, it’s how the specification numbers relate to the work being done that gets tricky. Well done.
I'm always amazed at why so many people want to over-maximize these small John Deere tractors. You and Tim (Tractor time with Tim) have a love for these small John Deere tractors that is unusual. I have seen both of you use these units in situations that do not call for them. While both of you have perfectly suited adequate equipment that is not being used. I guess it makes for an interesting video instead.
I’m interested to hear an example of what you’re talking about The comment about me loving these tractors is just nonsense. I’ve been talking for the last year that I want to get a bigger tractor from a different brand. I have the tractor I have because it’s expensive and complicated to switch tractors. That is literally what the video is about. Trying to get a different Tractor, and making sure I can lift enough weight. The majority of people watching these videos, have one tractor and have jobs they need to do. They’re going to do the job with the machine they have.
You have a perfectly good skid steer with a lot more capacity and you seem to use the tractor instead. Not trying to insult you but that's the way it seems to come off. That's just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions. I like that you have been successful and I wish you all the best. I just thought I would give an opinion. Don't let it upset you because I didn't mean it that way. ** @RockhillfarmYT
Another option for people can be the small wheeled loaders. They can move around like a mini skid steer and they have impressive hydraulics to give you a lot of lifting capacity.
Thanks Brock for explaining a very complicated lift rating system. I too wish there was a simpler way to rate lift capability but understand that there are many variables. I enjoyed the video great job.
Great conversation starter! I would like to see a rating based on "what it will pick up at 4 ft high with a standardized pallet fork weight of X pounds." This would give you a good idea about what you can unload from a truck, semi, etc.
This was a good video Brock!! I've personally never understood having a pin measurement either, it's simply not a realistic number in practical application. I know my 320R will lift 2000# a few inches off the ground, the measured breakout force at 500 mm is 2665#, falls in line very well with your analogy.
Good morning Brock. That mini skid steer is a cool little machine but I also think that it has a certain amount of jobs that it would excel at and therefore it would be for a certain niche (I hope that I spelled that right) of people. That being said, when I bought my tractor I knew absolutely nothing about them other than I wanted and needed one. I thought that they were all mini bulldozers and had unlimited power and could move locomotives. I didn't take long for me to learn how wrong I was but it still never ceases to amaze me of it's capabilities. I'm rambling again but I hope that the machine does what you need it to do and I'm looking forward to your videos on putting it to work. God bless and have a wonderful day 👍👍🙂
Your mini skid load limit will depend on how comfortable you are leaning back. There isn't a lot of ballast to counter the weight and you will tip before you get the max weight.
Howdy Brock! Math make Cowboy Steve head hurt... 😁 Excellent job pointing out the pitfalls of trying to pin down some hard numbers for specific applications. Soooo many variables. And the manufacturers are under a lot of pressure trying to figure out what numbers to throw out there because of liability risks. We have become a society based on litigation... so everything is dictated by what the lawyers decide. Can be a little daunting at times to say the least! Good stuff - thanks for sharing 🤠
Hi Brock, Thanks for all of your work in creating these videos, it does take a lot of work. At 6:25 you talk about the fact that the self leveling loader has more capacity than the normal loader. Common sense says as you move out toward the tips of the forks, you would expect to have less lift capacity with a conventional loader, but with your mechanical self levelling loader, (if it is truly self leveling) will give you the same lift capacity at the fork tips as it will at the heel of the forks or at the pin. It’s a little counter-intuitive but if you look at the work done at the tips Vs the heel, the same work is done so the same work from the hydraulic cylinders will have been accomplished. Essentially the conventional loader elevates the load more at the tips than at the heel whereas with the mechanical self levelling loader, the change in elevation is the same no matter where the load is placed. Since you have a mechanical self leveling loader on your tractor, (I have a conventional loader on my 1025R) it would make a great video to test this hypothesis. Are you up for it?
Brock, nice job explaining the differences. Im curious on the baumalightid the 200# difference is if you have the counter weight system installed in the track frame. Thanks Brock for all you do.
Brock, what you're talking... start hitting the farm estate or dispersal auctions. Find an older mainline green or red tractor and put an appropriate loader on it if there's not already one on it. I once had a Farmall 450 row crop gas tractor, with loaded tires & wheel weights. I mated a used loader to it with a different mfg's bucket, with bucket hooks there wasn't anything on my place I couldn't pick up and carry. They're a whole lot less expensive that new and No electronics to go bad out of the blue. Any mechanical issues are readily diagnosed without needing a whole bunch of expensive electronic equipment. Just my opinion from experience. 👍😉
the pivoting front axle on a tractor combined with center of gravity completely changes the whole dynamic and makes it impossible to have 1 number thats set in stone
Brock this is a hard problem for anyone to solve cause you always run into obstacles you can't lift.that little machine you have there is manly for landscaping or farming to clean out barns mostly tite spots. And some companies bye machines bigger then what they need so it just sits around all the time lol.
I'm wondering if you can weld some brackets on the side to allow you to extend a weight bracket to the sides or behind the operator to lift a lot more weight. I can't find anyone doing it so maybe there isn't much weight you can add before the problem becomes losing front traction? I'd think the ability to just hang 200lbs or so to the sides of the operator would increase the amount of weight.
I think if your not looking for task specific lifts,Lift capacity is far from the only thing you need to fixate on,when buying a new tractor.I think people get too entwined in numbers.There are so many other variables when spending new tractor dollars.
What you can actually pick up a few inches off the ground and drive with should be about 70% of the listed breakout force This will be more than the listed lift capacity by about 25%
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I remember Mike Morgan did a tractor vs skid steer video a while back and he made a good point. The skid steer is built around the loader and the tractor is built around the PTO, and it’s loader is an extra feature. It’s not meant to lift copius amounts compared to the skid steer. Any ways , always enjoy these types of videos Brock. I can tell you take pride in them
I think you did a great job explaining a not so easy to understand subject. The subject is not hard to grasp, it’s how the specification numbers relate to the work being done that gets tricky. Well done.
I'm always amazed at why so many people want to over-maximize these small John Deere tractors. You and Tim (Tractor time with Tim) have a love for these small John Deere tractors that is unusual. I have seen both of you use these units in situations that do not call for them. While both of you have perfectly suited adequate equipment that is not being used. I guess it makes for an interesting video instead.
I’m interested to hear an example of what you’re talking about
The comment about me loving these tractors is just nonsense. I’ve been talking for the last year that I want to get a bigger tractor from a different brand.
I have the tractor I have because it’s expensive and complicated to switch tractors.
That is literally what the video is about. Trying to get a different Tractor, and making sure I can lift enough weight.
The majority of people watching these videos, have one tractor and have jobs they need to do.
They’re going to do the job with the machine they have.
You have a perfectly good skid steer with a lot more capacity and you seem to use the tractor instead. Not trying to insult you but that's the way it seems to come off. That's just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions. I like that you have been successful and I wish you all the best. I just thought I would give an opinion. Don't let it upset you because I didn't mean it that way. ** @RockhillfarmYT
Another option for people can be the small wheeled loaders. They can move around like a mini skid steer and they have impressive hydraulics to give you a lot of lifting capacity.
Thanks Brock for explaining a very complicated lift rating system. I too wish there was a simpler way to rate lift capability but understand that there are many variables. I enjoyed the video great job.
Thanks
Great conversation starter! I would like to see a rating based on "what it will pick up at 4 ft high with a standardized pallet fork weight of X pounds." This would give you a good idea about what you can unload from a truck, semi, etc.
This was a good video Brock!!
I've personally never understood having a pin measurement either, it's simply not a realistic number in practical application. I know my 320R will lift 2000# a few inches off the ground, the measured breakout force at 500 mm is 2665#, falls in line very well with your analogy.
Good morning Brock. That mini skid steer is a cool little machine but I also think that it has a certain amount of jobs that it would excel at and therefore it would be for a certain niche (I hope that I spelled that right) of people. That being said, when I bought my tractor I knew absolutely nothing about them other than I wanted and needed one. I thought that they were all mini bulldozers and had unlimited power and could move locomotives. I didn't take long for me to learn how wrong I was but it still never ceases to amaze me of it's capabilities. I'm rambling again but I hope that the machine does what you need it to do and I'm looking forward to your videos on putting it to work. God bless and have a wonderful day 👍👍🙂
Your mini skid load limit will depend on how comfortable you are leaning back. There isn't a lot of ballast to counter the weight and you will tip before you get the max weight.
Howdy Brock! Math make Cowboy Steve head hurt... 😁
Excellent job pointing out the pitfalls of trying to pin down some hard numbers for specific applications. Soooo many variables. And the manufacturers are under a lot of pressure trying to figure out what numbers to throw out there because of liability risks. We have become a society based on litigation... so everything is dictated by what the lawyers decide. Can be a little daunting at times to say the least! Good stuff - thanks for sharing 🤠
Hi Brock, Thanks for all of your work in creating these videos, it does take a lot of work.
At 6:25 you talk about the fact that the self leveling loader has more capacity than the normal loader. Common sense says as you move out toward the tips of the forks, you would expect to have less lift capacity with a conventional loader, but with your mechanical self levelling loader, (if it is truly self leveling) will give you the same lift capacity at the fork tips as it will at the heel of the forks or at the pin. It’s a little counter-intuitive but if you look at the work done at the tips Vs the heel, the same work is done so the same work from the hydraulic cylinders will have been accomplished. Essentially the conventional loader elevates the load more at the tips than at the heel whereas with the mechanical self levelling loader, the change in elevation is the same no matter where the load is placed.
Since you have a mechanical self leveling loader on your tractor, (I have a conventional loader on my 1025R) it would make a great video to test this hypothesis. Are you up for it?
good night friends, success is always for you
Brock, nice job explaining the differences. Im curious on the baumalightid the 200# difference is if you have the counter weight system installed in the track frame. Thanks Brock for all you do.
I just ordered those weights
Have a great day really enjoy your content
I can see how folks could get confused about these numbers. So many variables, it seems like a business of approximations.
Brock, what you're talking... start hitting the farm estate or dispersal auctions. Find an older mainline green or red tractor and put an appropriate loader on it if there's not already one on it.
I once had a Farmall 450 row crop gas tractor, with loaded tires & wheel weights. I mated a used loader to it with a different mfg's bucket, with bucket hooks there wasn't anything on my place I couldn't pick up and carry. They're a whole lot less expensive that new and No electronics to go bad out of the blue. Any mechanical issues are readily diagnosed without needing a whole bunch of expensive electronic equipment. Just my opinion from experience. 👍😉
Following, I want to deliver natural stone pavers 3300lbs per crate. Trying to find best option for jobsite delivery of 6 crates at a time.
The John Deere 333G could handle that. I just bought one and the power is intoxicating.
My skid steer is a 325G. You can carry 5000 pounds around.
the pivoting front axle on a tractor combined with center of gravity completely changes the whole dynamic and makes it impossible to have 1 number thats set in stone
Brock, consider the Kubota M62 TLB. 3960lbs at pin
Be your own ballast. Eat more cheeseburgers (as Tractor Time With Tim would say).
I have turned them all over not due to over lifting but just the place’s I have been and scope of work .
You tipped one over sideways?
Brock this is a hard problem for anyone to solve cause you always run into obstacles you can't lift.that little machine you have there is manly for landscaping or farming to clean out barns mostly tite spots. And some companies bye machines bigger then what they need so it just sits around all the time lol.
Brock, I see a TYM 574HST in your future
I'm wondering if you can weld some brackets on the side to allow you to extend a weight bracket to the sides or behind the operator to lift a lot more weight. I can't find anyone doing it so maybe there isn't much weight you can add before the problem becomes losing front traction? I'd think the ability to just hang 200lbs or so to the sides of the operator would increase the amount of weight.
You gotta love physics!
I think if your not looking for task specific lifts,Lift capacity is far from the only thing you need to fixate on,when buying a new tractor.I think people get too entwined in numbers.There are so many other variables when spending new tractor dollars.
I have a TYM T574 and some logs. Want to do some experimenting?
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What you can actually pick up a few inches off the ground and drive with should be about 70% of the listed breakout force
This will be more than the listed lift capacity by about 25%
Show us lifting shit