I love you. You are so clear. I’ve been on a trauma healing journey for about 7 years. I’ve healed so much that I am unrecognizable. There isn’t just one method. It’s a lot of things. One time I did a yoga practice that released so much trauma it changed the way my body functioned. That was one time. It never happened again. I’ve gone for a run that released so much trauma I started laughing uncontrollably and couldn’t stop. Most of the time it takes more work and patience. But sometimes healing is spontaneous and just happens because we are present with whatever we are doing that just happens to be perfect for releasing something. Sometimes I sit with a feeling and seconds later it is gone. Sometimes it takes weeks of sitting with a feeling and it has layers that need to be released. I’m working on my deeper traumas now, and they are much harder and take much longer, and require much more patience and attunement and openness to myself than I've ever allowed myself to have. This chat reminded me to keep following my body. I'm working on one issue right now, whenever I am present with it i go right to sleep. I keep following that urge though. The sleep doesn't last long. It's like an intense nap. It feels like a spell of some sort. It's not a medical issue as it's only ever happened when I try to be present with this trauma. It gets a bit less each time. It's been a couple days and I'm able to be still with the feeling longer and longer before the sleep urge comes for me. Thanks for the reminder that healing is a process not an event.
@@lulusworld2703 i think that sleep is a restorative thing also. Same thing happened to me over n over again and I get up in better shape than when i was reliving my traumas...
You are so good with words and with the strides you have made in healing and the knowledge you have gained I think you could help other people by having your own you tube channel. I think you have a gift for reaching people
It's important to understand trauma at the energetic level. I had shock stuck in my brain stem and bones from a brutal medical procedure as a 3 year old (Canadian medical system). It took a gifted cranio/sacral therapist to release this shock with her hands decades after the event!
I believe sometimes people only think of trauma as something like sex abuse or something like that that’s really horrific. I think it’s important to recognize that any “ trauma” is a trauma and we need to be able to know how to deal with it - many times people minimize their trauma because it’s not as “ horrific” as someone else trauma.
@Lynn Irvine I believe it could be related. Human beings need to feel safe and when a baby is hungry and crying and no one tends to him/her, the baby is left feeling unsafe. This feeling of not feeling safe triggers the fight or flight system in our nervous system. When In flight or flight mode, our bodies hold tension which can create pain symptoms. Your goal need to be to help your nervous system feel a sense of safety. This will allow your nervous system to calm which will allow your body to release tension and pain symptoms. The Ployvagal Theory explains the bodies need for feeling safe and how to allow it. Dr .Stephen Porges is the one who developed Polyvagal Theory and has great insight. Look him up to learn more. He has the Safe and Sound Protocol which allows your nervous system to reset and feel safe. It’s life changing!
Yes, this is true. Sometimes I think my PTSD can't be that bad, because I tend to minimize what happened to me as a child. I think other people had it worse. But when I tell a therapist what happened in my early childhood, they fully understand and acknowledge the severity of my symptoms.
@Lynn Irvine i would also like to know the answer. My mom told me i never cried, therefore I was basically told i was ignored for long periods of time. but as a 2-3 yr old i can recall crying and getting shut in a room.
So true, I have Primary Adrenal Insufficiency, or Addison's disease. My whole life has been waiting for the next ball to drop on me. I have always had gut issues as well. My gastroenterologist told me he couldn't help me any longer. Through research on my own, I finally understand what my body is trying to tell me. This is amazing information, and I thank you so much. ❤
I never thought that Just the feel of my body sitting on the couch would bring tears in my eyes. I feel like my body is saying to me 'nice to meet you. It s been So long waiting for you to come' ευχαριστώ
Wow I love this and I am learning stuff that I have never heard of, despite the fact that I have been trying to find out what is " wrong " with me for 30 years now. I saw psychiatrist and psychologists and counselors, I watched videos and read books etc. and never seen or heart anything that I am hearing Irene saying. I have chronic pain and with it 3 other autoimmune diseases. This ist the first time I get to understand what is happening to me instead of feeling hopeless and helpless and cursed. What a gift you are to me Irene, thank you so so much.
I seem to get a trauma release while stretching. I sometimes have to pause and take a moment to feel and let my body do what it needs to do before proceeding on with the process. If I don't stretch regularly I also get pain in my spinal cord all throughout my body until I either stretch or rest. Sometimes when this pain hits I cry and feel old emotions coming up and I cry and soothe my inner child and talk to myself in a way a healthy parent would to a child. Its really been helping me just from listening to my body as well as changing my thought patterns to deal with conflict with my narcissistic father (who I still live in the same house as at 23) my system is definitely regulating more and thanks to people like you sharing this stuff it really has saved my life. I've grown and healed so much in just a few years. Still got lots of work to do though.
@@cherylwilsherlimberlife7210 if you do, take it slow and steady. I've found that's the safest way of the nervous system seems to go into overdrive from what I've experienced. It's really important to be mindful with movement and connect with your body and breath while doing it. if you need to definitely take a breather too. I wish you so many blessing and sending love and care hugs your way 💕
@UCU2kaofbBFY57eWueOLDtSg thank you for sharing your experience too. I personally don't add anything special or extra. I allow my body to do the guidance. I do incorporate intuitive movement into it like allowing my body to flow/move or dance as it would like while feeling the strong emotions come out and other times I just let myself curl forward into a ball kind of and cry. Then I do breath work to allow everything to settle again without trying to force or control anything. I get triggered a lot sometimes too if I'm processing a trauma so I have to practice mindfulness in the moment if I'm not too deep in the trigger to try to rationalize reality or If the trigger is too intense I have to let it pass on its own and then the release seems to just happen which is when I also allow my body to move how it needs to or in some cases resting as much as I need to. I really hope this helps 🙏
been viciously brutally violently raped, at the level of my soul, by my best friend, who abandoned, and betrayed me, and disposed of me like garbage... the suffering is unbearable. the trauma and the panic truly suffocate me. but there are some things I've learned to appreciate about myself, like: - my kind eyes - my sweet smile - my intelligence - my wisdom - my incredible ability to truly listen and to really hear - my softness - the bitch in me - the poetry in me - when I love, I give EVERYTHING - my innocence - my sweet gentleness - my willingness - my openness - my discernment - my unfolding
I’ve gone through the exact same experience. It was a hell but now everyday I am getting stronger and stronger 💪🙏 I hope you get over it the soonest possible! Best wishes. ❤
What I have found is that trauma for me often shows up in the form of panic attacks. Once they're over I feel a sense of being purged. I know that may sound strange but it has been my experience recently.
Irene Lyon, where have you been, literally, all of my life!? I am SOOOO ready to heal this damage the right way. I look forward to working with you. Thank you!!
Ha! I tried shaking therapy and got nothing out of it. Now I understand why. As for babies that are too hot, many parents don't recognize that babies and children run warmer than adults do. Additionally, many Millennials and younger generations haven't had the opportunity to learn coping skills because they simply take anti-anxiety medications. Thanks for the work you do. I was a bodyworker (neuromuscular therapy and Cranio-Sacral therapy) and I agree, we have to face our demons to overcome them, and you offer ways to do that. I'd love to see a conversation between you and Jordan Peterson.
100 percent!! That’s when true progress happened to me and still practicing indifference and living my life! You are rewiring your brain. Be patient; this process takes time!!
let's remember that sometimes the worst trauma is invisible - neglect. Traumatic invalidation, known by the indians as the Poison of Conditioned existence. I'm finding it difficult not to be re traumatised by current political events and the complete inability of our governments to make a plan for us to heal our earth, and, by extension, ourselves.
Yes. Dr Mate has quoted someone about there being two ways childhood goes wrong. One is the things that happened that should not have happened (overt abuse, war, famine ect) and two, the things that didn't happen and should have happened (the presence of non stressed emotionally attuned caregivers). When a person primarily experiences the latter, it is more challenging to heal because rather than working with events that happened, we are working with a vacuum of what "should have been there" And there is a lack of research and attention focused on that phenomenon. I hear you. ❤
Stop waiting for any government or institution to do anything. They do not have your best interest at heart. The sooner you understand and embody that truth, the sooner you move towards personal sovereignty.
@@AmandaMG6Wow. You wrote. Try not to defend your right to remain a trauma victim because you want to shed it. That's good. I spend too much time talking about my problems and "why I'm this way" instead of talking about the new me I want to be or I'm going to be or in becoming.
I can't believe how I am finding this work after years of doing yoga, meditating, green drinks, vegan.... it is making soooo much sense of everything! Thank you soo much! I just bought your 21 day course and Levine's book. Everything is coming together with the why I was having all the feelings....so glad I invested in my 'work' so I can live outside of trauma, instead of in.
50, male and all started 2 years ago: Breakup of relationship...although mutual. Breakup a rubbish narcissistic friendship....harder than it sounds! 😪 Learning about narcissism was hard!!! Big solo relocation. New tough job. First time living in city. One year later to present have been suffering from trauma...that I think has manifested itself in to chronic pain called Burning Mouth Syndrome. I'm a fit Triathlete and did Austria Ironman last year and many other races...and I have a good career. This chronic pain and trauma has really flattened me....I still swim and run but do more yoga now and am in counselling. I think this video nails it...thank you Irene!
Absolutely awesome presentation and I worked as a therapist for 45 years and I’m still working on myself but hats off to you and hear my loud applause and I love your website. Big thank you, heartfelt.❤️
My mother put me into a room down the hall as a newborn. She was never the sentimental type. She has told me the story of how I started sleeping through the night by around 6 weeks old. I now wonder - sleeping through (or just gave up crying?!). Apparently the early childhood nurse wasn’t v impressed.
Very interesting material. This really needs to be shared with the adopted community. All adopted children have some level of dysregulation due to the separation from their birth mother. Some cope better than others, but for some it is a very dark pit of destruction for them. I think this info could be very helpful. Recommended reading: The Primal Wound by Nancy Verrier.
I only realised I had this problem when an alarm began to go off in my head. A loud hissing that is now diminishing as I clear the traumas I was carrying. I was fortunate to find a cranio sacral therapist who is well versed in this area. I accept the sound as my body letting me know I need to clear this and trust that when I am ready it will disappear completely. We must listen to our body ❤️
Thanks Irene, I've seen a lot of your video's, but this one was so overall complete, so clear and interesting. So basic and yet layered. Many new detais that gave me ' aha' moments and even more compassion for people with trauma. Love to learn more about myself and others every time via your work.
Honestly I don't care about glamour or any of these techniques people say helps. To me it is a relief to hear that the solution is completely within ME and no one else. That is the whole point of attunement is to figure out what I need in a moment and to be present with my body. Of course, I can try different techniques at different times and they may be super helpful. But if they aren't I don't have to feel discouraged because something will help, I just have to keep exploring and listen to my body.
Grateful to ALL of you here. Even the two so far who have disliked this topic and education! Back next month with other lecture and don't forget I have other long form lectures via this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PL_tIcR-r0CU7uE6rHtXuKTp6EhJyuNqtr Enjoy! Irene.
Thank you so much for this! I've been a special ed teacher for over twenty years and have learned so much through those years through observation, experience and training. I recently learned about attachment styles, but something about the healing process was still missing to me and this is it! I've even been telling a couple of friends how most animals make better parents than humans. Everything you are saying here agrees with my prior knowledge and the instincts I have been re-connecting to as part of me recent self-healing journey. I have subscribed and signed up on your website.
Hi Irene can you please tell me whether Tapping is a methodology that helps the organic process become more alive or one that stunts the process? I definitely don't want to stunt anything like what breathing does but Tapping seems to help when my anxiety spikes. Thank you in advance for your answer!
@@sherif138 Seth here with Team Lyon. Thanks for your question! Tapping is definitely a resource to be sure, and it is similar to breathing techniques, and any other kind of tool or technique that we bring in to help manage our experience. This isn't bad, but it is imposing a intervention on the system to soothe it, rather than just staying with the experience as it is and being with the discomfort that arises when we do NOT tap, or breathe deep, or smoke a cigarette, or go shopping, etc.... These kinds of external resources and coping mechanisms are not bad at all, being able to soothe and settle and get help moving through these experiences is important, AND, if we want to fully heal and complete these survival responses, these kinds of external resources like tapping do need to slowly be replaced by the true internal resource we call capacity, which allows us to be with the full force of the experience as it reaches it's peak, and deactivates. This takes time and practice to be sure, and it is a big part of what Irene teaches people to develop in her online programs.
Sorry for all the comments.you opened my Flood gate.thankyou for this video..I will be watching and listening to the rest of your stuff..when the student needs to learn ,the teacher will come..
At 74, l still startle if approached from behind if l am unaware that someone is in the space with me....for that reason, l have tried all adult life to live alone....now, l am just abit to frail to be on my own but now l am almost always on ' alert' status....is it still possible to get through this???
Hi Becoming Temperance, great to hear that you're on the SBSM list for 2022. In the meantime, the 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up can be a great place to start and is good preparation for SBSM. The cost of the 21 Day Tune Up is also applied towards SBSM when you sign up. - Jen from Team Lyon
My mum had a breakdown when I was 18 months old. She went into hospital and when she returned home she relapsed. I know it has affected me. Dysfunctional family dynamics too. Affected me for decades. Still learning. Thank you for your videos.
I'm at the point of letting myself go ,little things like eating ,drinking,ill lay there and it seems like the simplest things as hard to manage .when I've battled my whole life,now eating seems like too much so I ignore it ..
Irene, all the info you provide and the way you do it, is golden! you are helping me so much to understand my own trauma, I am getting aware in a whole new way and getting words to name things I feel. Thank you so much!!!! 🙌so much love for you ❤❤❤❤
Irene Im learning a lot from all your videos and also getting inspired to learn more and more as a psychologist that in the future would like to become a somatic psychotherapist. I admire how much you know and all the content you share as well the way you do it. Just wanted to say, Thanks❤️
I have my doubts being a child of a narcisistic parent and then dealing even in my healing trauma journey with people that are narcisistic if they can heal. I've seen a lot of the dynamics and manipulation and abuse that characterizes cluster b personality disorders , that they still do it in healing settings just maybe with a better language. No doubt they want to heal from something or that they recognize that they have trauma, but i've had so learn to keep myself safe from people that have these toxic and abusive patterns in recovery. Last year i suffered a smear campaign in a CPTSD support group that I founded to read a book on trauma! That they want to heal their trauma for sure, that they wont do their games anymore in recovery, or project severely their stuff on to others is something i want to stop taking my chances to find out because a lot of them ive seen are unable to do so. I think psycotherapy might be helpful for them but a lot dont can't see how they affect others because of the nature of there entitlements and grandiosity. Its difficult to navigate these people and dynamics specially if this was actually someones trauma growing up and what they are trying to get recovery from! I.e imagine sharing about a traumatic event in a supposedly safe place and someone litteraly gaslighting it even if its in the guidelines to not minimize someones trauma, and they feeling entitled to do so because it bothers them someone speaking up about the possibility of having trauma from such an event. Then quoting or bringing up the guidelines and being accused of censorship, even if its unsafe minimization of someones experience. Then being deemed the bad guy and smeared, and triangulated and harassed, because a person keeps their boundaries and their truth, which is what a lot of people need to do for their recovery. Navigating that in recovery has been like a master's degree... Or imagine going to support groups and seeing that its dominated by a narc person that speaks for 80% of the meeting and changes the material thats being read to suit her needs to control, and specially change the material so people dont empower themselves enough to challenge her. This is the bread and butter of many support groups, and its difficult to navigate so cluster B people in trauma support groups are a menace and part of the biggest problem is that people are easily manipulated by them and enable them, out of their own childhood trauma
Boy, you spoke some truth there. And I can tell you've needed to be able to say that for a while -to people who hear you - not those who are so easily under the spell. I have a somewhat simple experience where I live, in a town where apparently I'm the only one who can see all the offensive nonsense here that goes on all around me. I have come to be a homebody just to avoid it, and how angry it makes me.
@@PHanomaly thanks brother with healthy boundaries i have been able to make a safe enough support group for myself, doont give up and keep speaking up for your inner child , true self, finding your safe enough people, and tkaing our space in the world we are worth it :))))))))))
when I hurt myself, I swear out loud and then I am fine. My son always comments on the fact he knows when I have hurt myself because I swear out loud. My son is an adult, when they were young, I would cuss under my breath. I find it is a great stress release.
I'm so thankful to you for everything you've learned and now passing on. 💛 I need this. I'm at a loss right now in my life. But this is so helpful! Again thank you!
I was a compulsive eater from a very young age. I've since gotten past that, but it took me years to realize that I should stop eating when I had eaten enough. For so long, I never really had thought about it.
Excellent; inspiring and clearly informing . Matching my experiences and observations . Thanks so much for your clarity in this very necessary and important work !
Praying healing 4u..u r a beautiful butterfly.we hv 2 go thru the metamorphosis cycle and exercise our muscles so we can set ourselves free from our caccoon and fly into the universe for all to be delighted by...dont quit learning..toxicity is not your destiny👵💜
Thank you. I have been seriously ill for the past 2 years. I was able to process some "major" trauma occurrences up until a certain point. More has come up organically but I have been stuck again and this video and exercises is exactly what I needed.
With time doing body work I realised that I used to be (and still a bit) scared of calm regulated people, I felt them to be dangerous and that they were going to hurt me
I dream of being able to change my environment and swim in cleaner water, but without financial resources it's not possible...I need to learn to not be constantly triggered while trapped in a triggering environment.
The sad truth. I have to go and work so I can survive but it dampens my ability to heal. I try to do my best slow down and take care of myself while on the job but my boss is constantly pressuring me to go fast.
Wow, soooo helpful. I’ve spent so much time and money trying to find short cuts and biohacks, seeking somatic therapies without being connected to my body and this just makes so much sense of why that hasn’t been sufficient. So grateful that I found you and invested in SBSM this year. Six weeks in (including orientation week) and I’m still working through week one and the additional resources. One day at a time!
Thanks, this is so great! I guess I've brought myself out of the freeze at this point with your practices, since now my anxiety has risen tremendously, I'll have to view that as a good thing then... Also I'm a garden person, so that monocrop analogy totally resonated! ❤️🙏
The woman I have been closest with and most alike to in my life was a girl 4 months younger than me. We met at 18 and were friends for a couple of decades before we realized we have basically the same birth story. We were both born in 1979 and taken out of our mothers with forceps making us cone heads. We were both the first born in our families. I think that very first trauma made us very much alike.
@@PHanomaly I don't remember it and neither does my friend, but if you don't think being twisted into a new universe by giant tongs grasping your baby head is traumatic, well let's just say you should start asking yourself more questions 🤔😘🤩
@@katijahlivindalife7488 hmm, I'm pretty in touch with myself, always have been, but trauma didn't strike me until I was around 40. And it wasn't anything to do with childhood or family, it was like everything I had ever known was suddenly shattered, and I felt like I was catapulted through a portal into another universe, where nothing in the old Universe applied, like there was no longer anything I could trust to be what I knew it to be, I've been a stranger in a strange land ever since, where nothing is safe, and everything is always unpredictable, like a lone animal with predators everywhere and horror is routine.
Once I started really breaking through in personal therapy it allowed me to really do the work and practice being in tune with my body. This lead me to now where I’m actually releasing, rewiring, and healing.
There is just too much to say for me. From staring to bawl at the beginnings of the sympathetic nervous system explanation, to hard disassociating at 50mins in and rewinding a million times. My brain didn’t want to know it 😂
Hi The Plant loving Wolf, Jen here from Team Lyon. It sounds like your brain may not have wanted to know this, and it touched something in your nervous system/being too! If you want to learn more, you might check out Irene's free Healing Trauma video training. I'll link to it here: irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
I WAS sexually assaulted by a psychotherapist and I have been re-traumatized by countless professionals that I have tried to work with, i had limited income and could not afford experienced therapists and so could not choose a professional who could fully support me in my healing. I could only go to professionals that were just starting out and would accept geared to income payments which are very minimal. The last one I tried to work with on the first session asked me, in a tone of voice that was when baffled and blaming, "why would you go back to this person?" when I told her that the Jian Gomeshi trial I had attended triggered things for me around the prosecutors blaming and dismissing Lucy's statement of abuse by Gomeshi.
Its funny cus the exact things you say to do to help with trauma is exactly what i started doing a few weeks ago even before seeing this and honestly ive gotten more results doing this then i have in years
Dear Irene, in 1984 (18 yo) I received an ECT treatment. I grew up in an emotionally unhappy family and can remember times when I was traumatized at home and in school. In 2005, I self-realized and found great relief from beliefs that did not serve me well. So now I have a much better understanding, but my body is still traumatized. I have tremors in parts of my body that I was told were due to medications, but they are probably due to trauma as well. Sometimes when drinking a glass of something, my hand will jump and spill some. My medications are Zyprexa, Depakote, and Lithium. I also take fish oil and melatonin. My biggest problem is loss of sleep leading to mania. Also, I've noticed that when people talk to me, they seem to expect more than what I have to offer. Do you think your offering would be appropriate for me? Thank you.
Hi Kevin, Seth here with team Lyon. Thanks for being here! Yes, I think the somatic, nervous system based work would be appropriate for you. When a person is on medications that alter the natural neurochemistry, there will be a ceiling to the work they can do, but you can certainly get started, that's for sure. Implementing some basic practices to start working with your nervous system can only help, though fair notice - it may involve feeling things that you haven't felt before!
Thank you so much Irene, your videos have helped me to understand and have more compassion for myself. I am truly grateful and one day hope to help others do this work also
@@arjanblad416 There is a teddy where they’re not assholes! But some places are just so much more socially enjoyable. The circumstance has brought out the worst in everyone almost….. This is why those of us who are aware have to stay really vigilant about showing up for one another. Most people are sleepwalking. It’s just that some places are culturally more appealing to me, so it’s not a value judgment necessarily. But that being said, I do really like the Dutch!
I find that TRE is useful for releasing muscle tension enough that I can connect with my body. Same with things like breath work. I've never gotten any kind of "trauma release" from them. They're simply tools that force me to slow down and help ground me in the present moment. I usually do a body scan afterwards.
@@ShadowRaven66669 I had the exact opposite experience and had life changing improvements. The process is so misrepresented in this video. I spent thousands of dollars on SE and had only minor improvements. Still, I would never trash SE, it helps so many. Why do people trash TRE when it does too?
@@lmm5892 I agree about Somatic Experiencing. I attended the full certification course but did not complete as I witnessed and experienced its limits and the limits of the main teacher who was clearly still in the grip of unresolved material and very controlling. That bothered me a lot at the time. It caused me to reset my path and leave; I am glad I did, plus saved thousands of $$ of 3 years training. I would have made a crap SE therapist as it would not have been authentic ; I learned everything of value and I needed in 6 months. It is really important to know when you need to pivot away from a course of action that is not serving your emancipation from abuse, trauma, fight, flight, freeze and, fawn, and before you will be benefit in helping others. To be accurate with that, tuning in to your heart, gut, bodily truth in knowing, and higher intuition, becomes consequential. My discovery was as Irene states, tuning in to oneself leads you to the next opening. A therapy that worked last month may not be the one for the next layer of resolution. It requires a finely attuned ear to the heart....and the development of that.❤
I want more. I want to listen to your voice and heart through a better microphone. I want to know what you mean by "really". And I would like to learn about techniques that are newer than 30 years.
Hey Irene is it normal to oscillate between freeze states and flight states? I find myself often in one or the other and also dissociating often starts to make me feel anxious because I feel disconnected from the world. So they seem to be very connected for me. Thanks!
Hi Natasha Hall, Jen here from Team Lyon. Yes, this is very common. As we take steps to grow nervous system regulation and capacity, this typically changes.
“It goes back to the way it was before.”Every time I feel like I have a release of trauma from my body. It feels like it goes back to the way it was. How do I connect to my body?
Hi Joy Allen, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm just seeing that I missed your question. Sorry about that. Sometimes we need to titrate the trauma work a bit more, and/or take some steps to grow more capacity in the nervous system to support sustainable change after the release. I'll link to a few videos about titration here in case you want to check them out. Titration Explained: Never Rush Trauma Healing - irenelyon.com/2020/04/26/titration-explained-never-rush-trauma-healing/ The Important of Titrating Trauma Release - ruclips.net/video/EdWtz8H0WK8/видео.html
What is the difference between a dissoated mind and the natural capacity of the mind to enter a meditative state. Both are altered states of awareness but it is difficult to differenciate one from the other.
1:07:00: thank you for not insisting on knowing what a person's trauma was. Colleagues, managers, HR, recruitment consultants, landlords, letting agents, housemates, neighbours, always demand that information. I sometimes snap and say: 'Just watch violent child porn'.
So what I'm getting is that to release old stress, I need to do what I didn't do when it was acute. How about generational trauma? I think I might have some of that going on because I've had insomnia issues since day one and mental illness runs in both my paternal and maternal family. How do you work with that? I can't exactly ask my grandmother about it because she won't even admit that she worries herself physically sick regularly.
When i am tracking my body and get in touch with those unresolved trauma energies in my physiology and i get an impulse to scream, do i have to scream in the present moment in order to release the trauma? Do we have to follow the impulse and release it/bring closure in the present moment just the way it comes out from the system (for example scream, push, cry) or is it more important just to feel the terror and fear? How do you know when the trauma fully is released from the system? Thanks for your channel and videos Irene xx
Hi Nea, Jen here from Team Lyon. When possible, the idea is to follow the nervous system impulse and allow it to express in the moment if we have the capacity to do so. If you're not able to to it in the moment, you can also do it later by imagining the situation. This is the general idea, and it can be nuanced depending on a variety of different factors. Irene teaches more about how to do this in her online course and program.
In some videos you mentioned that we shouldn’t really confront people who hurt us. But then sometimes healing trauma means to speak up and say something. How would we know when it’s best to speak up?
Hi Lorena R, Jen here from Team Lyon. In this work, we mostly teach people to work through their traumatic response by working with the nervous system. If you have someone in your life who's open to learning about this too, it can be powerful to grow awareness of what's happening in the moment and how to support one another in different ways, including at the nervous system level. Often this isn't available, or there's someone in our life who hurt us who's not open to learning or hearing about this. In this case, it's still often helpful to work through the traumatic response outside of the relationship and then decide if we want to address it directory with the person. One of the main reasons for this is that when we speak from a highly charged state, people usually respond to our state more than our words and it can easily lead to reinforcing a painful pattern or cycle.
I've been living with Childhood trauma I suffered for 14 years of childhood abuse by mybstepfather(alwaysvwS ked to believe he was my real father) not just that trauma but the trauma of the fall out abused and treated bad by kids at school ,teachers,and as an adult jobs and coworkers are horrible..Reject and get me outta here is all I've felt.first sight never get a chance to get to know me or understand me.or just leave me alone if u don't want to..when ibwzs growing up I was taught if u didn't like someone you don't bother with them..ican handle silence like I'm not there. How can I get them to leave me alone?.fight or flight doesn't work at work..so I stay and thats not what they want or what is good for me.but every job,I'm 51 now ..quality of life is horrible.i used to be able to navigate it all much better. .mayby its cuz I'm old now...im older than my coworkers boss and supervisor now at this job 90's music plays all day and I feel like I'm stuck in a bad nightmare.is this all normal?
I have suffered very simalar things to you bad upbringing, bullying at school rotten jobs and horrible bosses for years on end, i am 56 And have come to the realization that its their problem and they could Have issues like narcissism, its well worth looking into this physiological disorder i learnt a lot and its helped me avoid some bad people because i have been for armed with knowledge, believe me its not you its Just certain types of people can sense someone who is different to them and feel threatened, you are Not alone experiening these kind of Things, you don't need to change or do anything different just be you and the right people will come into your life, wishing you happiness and healing.
It sounds like you have CPTSD. And we often very much personalize other peoples behaviors. Try to stay within your own body. You can do that by deep breathing, stroking your forearms. You can also train yourself to start interacting with the thoughts you’re having about their behavior. What are you making it mean about you? Maybe your background is making some of their comments a more heightened thing than it is? Trust me I understand all of these feelings. Life can be better if we can sort of question our thought patterns.
Nicole Rachelle it seems to me that you've been taught through abuse to be in situations that aren't what is right for you. When you can recognise that you are in a situation that is not right for you and you get yourself out of it, this is the rewiring of your brain that will be part of your trauma healing. It's hard to take care of ourselves with this when we've been neglected in this way. Try to focus on your right to walk away from people and situations that you don't feel comfortable with and relax into the pain that comes up. Self hugs, rubbing and patting are good self soothing for the body. It's what nurturers naturally do to comfort a distressed child. Be gentle with yourself to find a better fit for you for work. Don't use your past experiences of abuse as the indicator of your future. Believe in yourself that you are taking the steps needed to make your future different to your past. Use empowering language for your self-talk.
Both parents were emotionally unavailable chaotic childhood fight or flight since childhood in 58 and wanting to understand how to release decades of traumas there’s not one incident but many I brought up three children and loved them but was dealing with inner anxiety that I pretty much walked thru carried it with me ... I am aware of many traumas like at birth mom said they had to use forceps to take me out I’m thinking that wasn’t a great way to enter the world 🌎😢 ... Theres so many along with marrying a person who was I was afraid of his temper moods etc ... I want to be healed not medicated I want to thrive not just survive 😔 I feel like I can have a wonderful life but it’s really sucky dealing with feeling anxious 24/7 for decades tried everything and talk therapy is not helpful medication 💊 is all I’ve been told to take 🤦♀️ I want to understand and heal I’ve spent thousands of dollars 💵 that I never had to find help and healing ... I believe the body can heal but we need to know how I think looking for relief and healing has caused more anxiety 😟
Sometimes i get angry that im the one who needs to learn about this even though im the one needing the help but ive come to realize yea im the one who also needs to get educated and even though i wish my psychologist knew more about this than i do it’s not just practical to expect that. Or maybe I should look for another psychologist idk
Hi umdoistres, Seth here with Team Lyon. Yes, that completely makes sense! Unfortunately most psychologists do not understand trauma at all, and that's because they haven't done the training. There are many Somatic Experiencing Practitioners in the world though, and a lot of them are also Psychologists, so it may be time to find a new one. Here's a video that might be helpful... ruclips.net/video/04XF7ANnqGk/видео.html
Irene, just a kind feedback. You are doing a good job trying to give info. After watching some of your videos , I started to get confused about how to heal traumas, irrational fears from childhood. My understanding is your solutions are good to release some stress. I don't think you are offering any concrete demo of how to release deeply embeded trauma. You mentioned certain things won't work but there is no clear demo of what will work. It would be helpful if you write down what techniques you wanna give for free on videos like this and what parts you want to keep for your clients.
Hello, Sophia from Team Lyon here. Thank you for your feedback. Irene's RUclips material is educational in nature. Through the years, Irene developed her own "Scientuitive" style of healing, influenced by her studies on Feldenkreis, Somatic Experiencing and Somatic Practice. Samples of work, as well as free practical "neurosensory" exercises can be found here, under the "audio sample" portion of the page: irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/ Also, for clarity, an example of information about what is included in Irene's paid programs (VS social media) can be found here: 21daytuneup.com/ Please reach out to our support inbox should you need further information.
Irene! Never seen that name, ever! It’s my middle name. My name is my profile name, just spelled differently. So bizarre! I had to tune in! We are also the same age! 93 graduate as well. Born in 75… 🕊️
Hello Irene, with all your training I wonder at you calling it human animal instead of human child, human being etc. And our body as animal when it is human: it is permeated with our human spirit part, which we and only we do have. The fact that we share the astral (sentient soul) body with the animals and the etheric (life-force) body with the plants, and the physical body with the minerals (stones) doesn't MAKE us stones, plants or animals. We have it enlivened and penetrated by our spiritual humanity I know it trendy (I hope not permanent, but fear so). About clothing and body temperature: Right, but an infant doesn't have the same well developed thermostat we do and need good clothing, protection for their head by a little hat etc.They get cold easier than we. IDK if it also has to do with bad circulation, lying down so much, but don't think they would have been created that way. Thank you for the video. Hope i get trauma help now soon.
Im a huge advocate for natural home birth bc those early experiences are so crucial for proper development and so much unnecessary trauma and damage occurs during medicalized hospital births on so many levels.
Not necessarily. I was born at home and my father was a narcissist , I was my mother's fourth pregnancy, she aborted the one after me, but she had had enough of kids. My father told me when I came out of my mother his heart sank. I wish she had aborted me. I'm 60 and refused to have children after seeing the shit show I was born into. At home.
So if you have to let yourself « feel » the emotions to heal... what do we do in a panic attack ? If breathing for exemple is useless. And what are your thoughts on medication ?? Thank you
Hi Athena, Jen here from Team Lyon. Medication is a personal choice, we're not physicians here and generally speaking medication can sometimes be helpful to create enough stability in the nervous system to be able to do this work (and live with less pain and discomfort). As far as panic attacks go, with the nervous system work we are taking steps to address them at the root level so they often dissipate and even disappear as people do this work. In the interim, it's important to do whatever works for you in the moment, and connecting to what's happening in the here and now is a key part of this. I'll link to a few of Irene's resources that may also be helpful here. 4 Surprisingly Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm.... - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/ DIY Ancient Anxiety Medicine - ruclips.net/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/видео.html
Can Fibromyalgia be old trauma? I have had: car accidents, falls. studied martial arts, have chronic illness and loss of Neuromuscular control in left thigh and finally osteoarthritis and diabetic neuropathy.
I worked at a chiropractic clinic for three years, and every patient with fibromyalgia had experienced abuse and/or trauma. When I spoke to my employer, who had been trained in fibromyalgia, he agreed that during his entire practice every patient with that diagnosis eventually opened up to him about abuse or trauma.
Thank you for the many ah-ha moments. In counselling I have been unable to describe how my body feels. Somehow grounding was just not enough, so I will be exploring the aspect of my body
I am at a point--after much study and self help I am needing a support system that is not costly. A place to meet others who are suffering from childhood trauma any Ideas???
Hi Barbara Jackson, Jen here from Team Lyon. Irene has a facebook group called the Healthy Nervous System Revolution. There are people there who post and ask questions, and I'm not sure if it's as interactive as what you have in mind. Her starter nervous system program offers some opportunity for interaction and support too, including the ability to post observations and questions on the program site. There are approaches such as Authentic Relating and Non-Violent Communication that may be with exploring, and they may not be trauma informed. You could also do a search for facebook groups and/or participate in 12 Step programs such as Al-Anon. Many people have found great benefit from those and sometimes they can also be environments that make it easy to stay in an old (limiting) way of being. Hopefully some others will post ideas here too.
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I love you. You are so clear. I’ve been on a trauma healing journey for about 7 years. I’ve healed so much that I am unrecognizable.
There isn’t just one method. It’s a lot of things. One time I did a yoga practice that released so much trauma it changed the way my body functioned. That was one time. It never happened again. I’ve gone for a run that released so much trauma I started laughing uncontrollably and couldn’t stop. Most of the time it takes more work and patience. But sometimes healing is spontaneous and just happens because we are present with whatever we are doing that just happens to be perfect for releasing something. Sometimes I sit with a feeling and seconds later it is gone. Sometimes it takes weeks of sitting with a feeling and it has layers that need to be released. I’m working on my deeper traumas now, and they are much harder and take much longer, and require much more patience and attunement and openness to myself than I've ever allowed myself to have.
This chat reminded me to keep following my body.
I'm working on one issue right now, whenever I am present with it i go right to sleep. I keep following that urge though. The sleep doesn't last long. It's like an intense nap. It feels like a spell of some sort. It's not a medical issue as it's only ever happened when I try to be present with this trauma. It gets a bit less each time. It's been a couple days and I'm able to be still with the feeling longer and longer before the sleep urge comes for me.
Thanks for the reminder that healing is a process not an event.
Thank you for sharing 💖
@@lulusworld2703 i think that sleep is a restorative thing also. Same thing happened to me over n over again and I get up in better shape than when i was reliving my traumas...
thank you for sharing it has helped me understand what my journey can look like God bless you with everything good
Ahh yes the sleep shutdown, I experience that too.
You are so good with words and with the strides you have made in healing and the knowledge you have gained I think you could help other people by having your own you tube channel. I think you have a gift for reaching people
It's important to understand trauma at the energetic level. I had shock stuck in my brain stem and bones from a brutal medical procedure as a 3 year old (Canadian medical system). It took a gifted cranio/sacral therapist to release this shock with her hands decades after the event!
this is the first time i cried during watching trauma healing video. we can rewire ourselves to be the beautiful person we have always meant to be.
Irene is amazing
Check out
Crappy Childhood Fairy on RUclips
Which video? Where to find ?
Like Prince Zuko, his uncle says he will finally become the beautiful prince he is meant to be.
You may already be that [beautiful] person. Here's to us all recognizing this beauty in ourselves.
I believe sometimes people only think of trauma as something like sex abuse or something like that that’s really horrific. I think it’s important to recognize that any “ trauma” is a trauma and we need to be able to know how to deal with it - many times people minimize their trauma because it’s not as “ horrific” as someone else trauma.
Yes, for sure Will Mr.Energy. This is an important point, Irene often speaks about this too. - Jen from Team Lyon
I agree. People often don't recognise emotional abuse as traumatic.
@Lynn Irvine I believe it could be related. Human beings need to feel safe and when a baby is hungry and crying and no one tends to him/her, the baby is left feeling unsafe. This feeling of not feeling safe triggers the fight or flight system in our nervous system. When In flight or flight mode, our bodies hold tension which can create pain symptoms.
Your goal need to be to help your nervous system feel
a sense of safety. This will allow your nervous system to calm which will allow your body to release tension and pain symptoms.
The Ployvagal Theory explains the bodies need for feeling safe and how to allow it.
Dr .Stephen Porges is the one who developed Polyvagal Theory and has great insight.
Look him up to learn more. He has the Safe and Sound Protocol which allows your nervous system to reset and feel safe. It’s life changing!
Yes, this is true. Sometimes I think my PTSD can't be that bad, because I tend to minimize what happened to me as a child. I think other people had it worse. But when I tell a therapist what happened in my early childhood, they fully understand and acknowledge the severity of my symptoms.
@Lynn Irvine i would also like to know the answer. My mom told me i never cried, therefore I was basically told i was ignored for long periods of time. but as a 2-3 yr old i can recall crying and getting shut in a room.
So true, I have Primary Adrenal Insufficiency, or Addison's disease. My whole life has been waiting for the next ball to drop on me. I have always had gut issues as well. My gastroenterologist told me he couldn't help me any longer. Through research on my own, I finally understand what my body is trying to tell me. This is amazing information, and I thank you so much. ❤
Same. But mine is MEcfs
I never thought that Just the feel of my body sitting on the couch would bring tears in my eyes. I feel like my body is saying to me 'nice to meet you. It s been So long waiting for you to come' ευχαριστώ
Beautiful comment!
Wow I love this and I am learning stuff that I have never heard of, despite the fact that I have been trying to find out what is " wrong " with me for 30 years now. I saw psychiatrist and psychologists and counselors, I watched videos and read books etc. and never seen or heart anything that I am hearing Irene saying. I have chronic pain and with it 3 other autoimmune diseases. This ist the first time I get to understand what is happening to me instead of feeling hopeless and helpless and cursed. What a gift you are to me Irene, thank you so so much.
Me too!!
Since your videos are so long and informative, it'd be really helpful if you included "chapters" with timestamps ❤
Totally agreed. I love Irene's stuff but my dysregulated cns can't do the tons of talk
Same here, what I do is watch 5, 10 minutes at a time and make a note of the time where I left off.
@@thedatepro that works if you're planning to watch the whole thing. But if there were timestamps we could jump to those places most applicable to us
I seem to get a trauma release while stretching. I sometimes have to pause and take a moment to feel and let my body do what it needs to do before proceeding on with the process. If I don't stretch regularly I also get pain in my spinal cord all throughout my body until I either stretch or rest. Sometimes when this pain hits I cry and feel old emotions coming up and I cry and soothe my inner child and talk to myself in a way a healthy parent would to a child. Its really been helping me just from listening to my body as well as changing my thought patterns to deal with conflict with my narcissistic father (who I still live in the same house as at 23) my system is definitely regulating more and thanks to people like you sharing this stuff it really has saved my life. I've grown and healed so much in just a few years. Still got lots of work to do though.
Interesting, I've not felt stretching need, since freeze trauma response, I might start trying to induce this, stretch response
@@cherylwilsherlimberlife7210 if you do, take it slow and steady. I've found that's the safest way of the nervous system seems to go into overdrive from what I've experienced. It's really important to be mindful with movement and connect with your body and breath while doing it. if you need to definitely take a breather too. I wish you so many blessing and sending love and care hugs your way 💕
@UCU2kaofbBFY57eWueOLDtSg thank you for sharing your experience too. I personally don't add anything special or extra. I allow my body to do the guidance. I do incorporate intuitive movement into it like allowing my body to flow/move or dance as it would like while feeling the strong emotions come out and other times I just let myself curl forward into a ball kind of and cry. Then I do breath work to allow everything to settle again without trying to force or control anything. I get triggered a lot sometimes too if I'm processing a trauma so I have to practice mindfulness in the moment if I'm not too deep in the trigger to try to rationalize reality or If the trigger is too intense I have to let it pass on its own and then the release seems to just happen which is when I also allow my body to move how it needs to or in some cases resting as much as I need to. I really hope this helps 🙏
We all do!
i feel like my inner child is feeling super happy and exited listening to your videos because she feels validated and understood perfectly
Eda. That sounds so good :)
Yes. Such a safe space.
I've just recently realized how disconnected I am mentally and physically. Thank you for leading me on this path!!
been viciously brutally violently raped,
at the level of my soul,
by my best friend, who abandoned, and betrayed me,
and disposed of me like garbage...
the suffering is unbearable.
the trauma and the panic truly suffocate me.
but there are some things I've learned
to appreciate about myself, like:
- my kind eyes
- my sweet smile
- my intelligence
- my wisdom
- my incredible ability to truly listen and to really hear
- my softness
- the bitch in me
- the poetry in me
- when I love, I give EVERYTHING
- my innocence
- my sweet gentleness
- my willingness
- my openness
- my discernment
- my unfolding
Please think of putting a trigger warning. Your comment is extremely triggering for us with sexual trauma.
@@nadineeasby2968 I think it is meant, emotionally raped. I don't know if that helps to make it less triggering....(maybe not)
Dont put everything. Never.
Thank you for reminding us that what happens to us does not define us... and to focus on and appreciate our positive traits....
I’ve gone through the exact same experience. It was a hell but now everyday I am getting stronger and stronger 💪🙏 I hope you get over it the soonest possible! Best wishes. ❤
What I have found is that trauma for me often shows up in the form of panic attacks. Once they're over I feel a sense of being purged. I know that may sound strange but it has been my experience recently.
I have similar.
Epic black depressions and intense crying spells - then sleep after my hysteria, wake up feeling lighter and much better, huge release
Irene Lyon, where have you been, literally, all of my life!?
I am SOOOO ready to heal this damage the right way.
I look forward to working with you.
Thank you!!
Ha! I tried shaking therapy and got nothing out of it. Now I understand why. As for babies that are too hot, many parents don't recognize that babies and children run warmer than adults do. Additionally, many Millennials and younger generations haven't had the opportunity to learn coping skills because they simply take anti-anxiety medications. Thanks for the work you do. I was a bodyworker (neuromuscular therapy and Cranio-Sacral therapy) and I agree, we have to face our demons to overcome them, and you offer ways to do that. I'd love to see a conversation between you and Jordan Peterson.
100 percent!! That’s when true progress happened to me and still practicing indifference and living my life! You are rewiring your brain. Be patient; this process takes time!!
let's remember that sometimes the worst trauma is invisible - neglect. Traumatic invalidation, known by the indians as the Poison of Conditioned existence. I'm finding it difficult not to be re traumatised by current political events and the complete inability of our governments to make a plan for us to heal our earth, and, by extension, ourselves.
Yep, and it so very common
Try not to defend your right to remain a trauma victim bc you'll want to shed it
Yes. Dr Mate has quoted someone about there being two ways childhood goes wrong. One is the things that happened that should not have happened (overt abuse, war, famine ect) and two, the things that didn't happen and should have happened (the presence of non stressed emotionally attuned caregivers).
When a person primarily experiences the latter, it is more challenging to heal because rather than working with events that happened, we are working with a vacuum of what "should have been there" And there is a lack of research and attention focused on that phenomenon.
I hear you. ❤
Stop waiting for any government or institution to do anything. They do not have your best interest at heart.
The sooner you understand and embody that truth, the sooner you move towards personal sovereignty.
@@AmandaMG6Wow. You wrote. Try not to defend your right to remain a trauma victim because you want to shed it. That's good. I spend too much time talking about my problems and "why I'm this way" instead of talking about the new me I want to be or I'm going to be or in becoming.
I can't believe how I am finding this work after years of doing yoga, meditating, green drinks, vegan.... it is making soooo much sense of everything! Thank you soo much! I just bought your 21 day course and Levine's book. Everything is coming together with the why I was having all the feelings....so glad I invested in my 'work' so I can live outside of trauma, instead of in.
50, male and all started 2 years ago:
Breakup of relationship...although mutual.
Breakup a rubbish narcissistic friendship....harder than it sounds! 😪
Learning about narcissism was hard!!!
Big solo relocation.
New tough job.
First time living in city.
One year later to present have been suffering from trauma...that I think has manifested itself in to chronic pain called Burning Mouth Syndrome.
I'm a fit Triathlete and did Austria Ironman last year and many other races...and I have a good career. This chronic pain and trauma has really flattened me....I still swim and run but do more yoga now and am in counselling.
I think this video nails it...thank you Irene!
Absolutely awesome presentation and I worked as a therapist for 45 years and I’m still working on myself but hats off to you and hear my loud applause and I love your website. Big thank you, heartfelt.❤️
She’s makes the healing sound so simple I am so excited I want to be in her team!! I will heal myself!
My mother put me into a room down the hall as a newborn. She was never the sentimental type. She has told me the story of how I started sleeping through the night by around 6 weeks old. I now wonder - sleeping through (or just gave up crying?!).
Apparently the early childhood nurse wasn’t v impressed.
Very interesting material. This really needs to be shared with the adopted community. All adopted children have some level of dysregulation due to the separation from their birth mother. Some cope better than others, but for some it is a very dark pit of destruction for them. I think this info could be very helpful. Recommended reading: The Primal Wound by Nancy Verrier.
I only realised I had this problem when an alarm began to go off in my head. A loud hissing that is now diminishing as I clear the traumas I was carrying. I was fortunate to find a cranio sacral therapist who is well versed in this area. I accept the sound as my body letting me know I need to clear this and trust that when I am ready it will disappear completely. We must listen to our body ❤️
I have this & 50 other symptoms.. how are you doing now? What’s helped? 🙏🏼
Thanks Irene, I've seen a lot of your video's, but this one was so overall complete, so clear and interesting. So basic and yet layered. Many new detais that gave me ' aha' moments and even more compassion for people with trauma. Love to learn more about myself and others every time via your work.
Honestly I don't care about glamour or any of these techniques people say helps. To me it is a relief to hear that the solution is completely within ME and no one else. That is the whole point of attunement is to figure out what I need in a moment and to be present with my body. Of course, I can try different techniques at different times and they may be super helpful. But if they aren't I don't have to feel discouraged because something will help, I just have to keep exploring and listen to my body.
Grateful to ALL of you here. Even the two so far who have disliked this topic and education! Back next month with other lecture and don't forget I have other long form lectures via this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PL_tIcR-r0CU7uE6rHtXuKTp6EhJyuNqtr
Enjoy! Irene.
Thank you so much for this! I've been a special ed teacher for over twenty years and have learned so much through those years through observation, experience and training. I recently learned about attachment styles, but something about the healing process was still missing to me and this is it! I've even been telling a couple of friends how most animals make better parents than humans. Everything you are saying here agrees with my prior knowledge and the instincts I have been re-connecting to as part of me recent self-healing journey. I have subscribed and signed up on your website.
Hi Irene can you please tell me whether Tapping is a methodology that helps the organic process become more alive or one that stunts the process? I definitely don't want to stunt anything like what breathing does but Tapping seems to help when my anxiety spikes. Thank you in advance for your answer!
@@sherif138 Seth here with Team Lyon. Thanks for your question! Tapping is definitely a resource to be sure, and it is similar to breathing techniques, and any other kind of tool or technique that we bring in to help manage our experience. This isn't bad, but it is imposing a intervention on the system to soothe it, rather than just staying with the experience as it is and being with the discomfort that arises when we do NOT tap, or breathe deep, or smoke a cigarette, or go shopping, etc....
These kinds of external resources and coping mechanisms are not bad at all, being able to soothe and settle and get help moving through these experiences is important, AND, if we want to fully heal and complete these survival responses, these kinds of external resources like tapping do need to slowly be replaced by the true internal resource we call capacity, which allows us to be with the full force of the experience as it reaches it's peak, and deactivates. This takes time and practice to be sure, and it is a big part of what Irene teaches people to develop in her online programs.
@@teamlyon3109 thank you so much! Very clear answer.
Just some feedback: I would like to have such a long lecture cut up in 10-15 minute pieces and uploaded separately.
Sorry for all the comments.you opened my Flood gate.thankyou for this video..I will be watching and listening to the rest of your stuff..when the student needs to learn ,the teacher will come..
At 74, l still startle if approached from behind if l am unaware that someone is in the space with me....for that reason, l have tried all adult life to live alone....now, l am just abit to frail to be on my own but now l am almost always on ' alert' status....is it still possible to get through this???
I think everybody needs to learn from this. Also do the course. I am on the waiting list for May 2022
Hi how do you apply for the course
@@kirstybrown7308 through Irene's website
Hi Becoming Temperance, great to hear that you're on the SBSM list for 2022. In the meantime, the 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up can be a great place to start and is good preparation for SBSM. The cost of the 21 Day Tune Up is also applied towards SBSM when you sign up. - Jen from Team Lyon
My mum had a breakdown when I was 18 months old. She went into hospital and when she returned home she relapsed. I know it has affected me. Dysfunctional family dynamics too. Affected me for decades. Still learning. Thank you for your videos.
I'm at the point of letting myself go ,little things like eating ,drinking,ill lay there and it seems like the simplest things as hard to manage .when I've battled my whole life,now eating seems like too much so I ignore it ..
Irene, all the info you provide and the way you do it, is golden! you are helping me so much to understand my own trauma, I am getting aware in a whole new way and getting words to name things I feel. Thank you so much!!!! 🙌so much love for you ❤❤❤❤
Irene Im learning a lot from all your videos and also getting inspired to learn more and more as a psychologist that in the future would like to become a somatic psychotherapist. I admire how much you know and all the content you share as well the way you do it. Just wanted to say, Thanks❤️
I have my doubts being a child of a narcisistic parent and then dealing even in my healing trauma journey with people that are narcisistic if they can heal. I've seen a lot of the dynamics and manipulation and abuse that characterizes cluster b personality disorders , that they still do it in healing settings just maybe with a better language. No doubt they want to heal from something or that they recognize that they have trauma, but i've had so learn to keep myself safe from people that have these toxic and abusive patterns in recovery. Last year i suffered a smear campaign in a CPTSD support group that I founded to read a book on trauma! That they want to heal their trauma for sure, that they wont do their games anymore in recovery, or project severely their stuff on to others is something i want to stop taking my chances to find out because a lot of them ive seen are unable to do so. I think psycotherapy might be helpful for them but a lot dont can't see how they affect others because of the nature of there entitlements and grandiosity. Its difficult to navigate these people and dynamics specially if this was actually someones trauma growing up and what they are trying to get recovery from! I.e imagine sharing about a traumatic event in a supposedly safe place and someone litteraly gaslighting it even if its in the guidelines to not minimize someones trauma, and they feeling entitled to do so because it bothers them someone speaking up about the possibility of having trauma from such an event. Then quoting or bringing up the guidelines and being accused of censorship, even if its unsafe minimization of someones experience. Then being deemed the bad guy and smeared, and triangulated and harassed, because a person keeps their boundaries and their truth, which is what a lot of people need to do for their recovery. Navigating that in recovery has been like a master's degree... Or imagine going to support groups and seeing that its dominated by a narc person that speaks for 80% of the meeting and changes the material thats being read to suit her needs to control, and specially change the material so people dont empower themselves enough to challenge her. This is the bread and butter of many support groups, and its difficult to navigate so cluster B people in trauma support groups are a menace and part of the biggest problem is that people are easily manipulated by them and enable them, out of their own childhood trauma
Boy, you spoke some truth there. And I can tell you've needed to be able to say that for a while -to people who hear you - not those who are so easily under the spell. I have a somewhat simple experience where I live, in a town where apparently I'm the only one who can see all the offensive nonsense here that goes on all around me. I have come to be a homebody just to avoid it, and how angry it makes me.
@@PHanomaly thanks brother with healthy boundaries i have been able to make a safe enough support group for myself, doont give up and keep speaking up for your inner child , true self, finding your safe enough people, and tkaing our space in the world we are worth it :))))))))))
when I hurt myself, I swear out loud and then I am fine. My son always comments on the fact he knows when I have hurt myself because I swear out loud. My son is an adult, when they were young, I would cuss under my breath. I find it is a great stress release.
I'm so thankful to you for everything you've learned and now passing on. 💛 I need this. I'm at a loss right now in my life. But this is so helpful! Again thank you!
I was a compulsive eater from a very young age. I've since gotten past that, but it took me years to realize that I should stop eating when I had eaten enough. For so long, I never really had thought about it.
Thank you Irene,
This is a very sincere video. You are an angel trying to get through to us 🧚♀️..I think I finally get it now 🙏
Excellent; inspiring and clearly informing . Matching my experiences and observations . Thanks so much for your clarity in this very necessary and important work !
Thank you so very much for doing this. ‘Just found you. Extremely helpful!... and a new subscriber here. 💜
Praying healing 4u..u r a beautiful butterfly.we hv 2 go thru the metamorphosis cycle and exercise our muscles so we can set ourselves free from our caccoon and fly into the universe for all to be delighted by...dont quit learning..toxicity is not your destiny👵💜
What a brilliant way of teaching and I learned a lot. Thank you. ❤
Thank you. I have been seriously ill for the past 2 years. I was able to process some "major" trauma occurrences up until a certain point. More has come up organically but I have been stuck again and this video and exercises is exactly what I needed.
Please send me some open connections. Thank you
With time doing body work I realised that I used to be (and still a bit) scared of calm regulated people, I felt them to be dangerous and that they were going to hurt me
I love how much the little plant in the background has grown since these earlier videos 🌿
I dream of being able to change my environment and swim in cleaner water, but without financial resources it's not possible...I need to learn to not be constantly triggered while trapped in a triggering environment.
The sad truth. I have to go and work so I can survive but it dampens my ability to heal. I try to do my best slow down and take care of myself while on the job but my boss is constantly pressuring me to go fast.
It is especially difficult to be poor while trying to heal trauma.
@alice in wonderland,,this dream I too have.❤️you texted this right from my heart and mind.Wanted to let you know I feel exactly same.
Wow, soooo helpful. I’ve spent so much time and money trying to find short cuts and biohacks, seeking somatic therapies without being connected to my body and this just makes so much sense of why that hasn’t been sufficient. So grateful that I found you and invested in SBSM this year. Six weeks in (including orientation week) and I’m still working through week one and the additional resources. One day at a time!
Awesome and overwhelming, perfect timing , thank you , Namaste .
One of your most Informative videos, thanks for sharing Irene.
Thank you so much. I found you today in a perfectly aligned way 😉😇💛🕊️ 1111
I had to think twice about the date again whenever she said “the year is 2020” I was like woah this was just posted 4 months ago 😅
Thanks, this is so great! I guess I've brought myself out of the freeze at this point with your practices, since now my anxiety has risen tremendously, I'll have to view that as a good thing then... Also I'm a garden person, so that monocrop analogy totally resonated! ❤️🙏
I think it's all about corrective experience. The more of these you have, the more likely you are to heal.
This is some of the most amazing info I’ve ever heard. The missing link in my practice.
Thank you for this wonderful video. So so so useful. ❤
The woman I have been closest with and most alike to in my life was a girl 4 months younger than me. We met at 18 and were friends for a couple of decades before we realized we have basically the same birth story. We were both born in 1979 and taken out of our mothers with forceps making us cone heads. We were both the first born in our families. I think that very first trauma made us very much alike.
Interesting. I was a 'forceps baby', but was the youngest. I never had any issues or trauma from birth or childhood though.
@@PHanomaly I don't remember it and neither does my friend, but if you don't think being twisted into a new universe by giant tongs grasping your baby head is traumatic, well let's just say you should start asking yourself more questions 🤔😘🤩
@@katijahlivindalife7488 hmm, I'm pretty in touch with myself, always have been, but trauma didn't strike me until I was around 40. And it wasn't anything to do with childhood or family, it was like everything I had ever known was suddenly shattered, and I felt like I was catapulted through a portal into another universe, where nothing in the old Universe applied, like there was no longer anything I could trust to be what I knew it to be, I've been a stranger in a strange land ever since, where nothing is safe, and everything is always unpredictable, like a lone animal with predators everywhere and horror is routine.
Acupuncture showed me how much energetic trauma is stored in my body!
Once I started really breaking through in personal therapy it allowed me to really do the work and practice being in tune with my body. This lead me to now where I’m actually releasing, rewiring, and healing.
There is just too much to say for me. From staring to bawl at the beginnings of the sympathetic nervous system explanation, to hard disassociating at 50mins in and rewinding a million times. My brain didn’t want to know it 😂
Hi The Plant loving Wolf, Jen here from Team Lyon. It sounds like your brain may not have wanted to know this, and it touched something in your nervous system/being too! If you want to learn more, you might check out Irene's free Healing Trauma video training. I'll link to it here: irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
I have just found you on RUclips. Loved your video, it’s so interesting. I will watch the functional freeze video next. Thank you so much xx
I WAS sexually assaulted by a psychotherapist and I have been re-traumatized by countless professionals that I have tried to work with, i had limited income and could not afford experienced therapists and so could not choose a professional who could fully support me in my healing. I could only go to professionals that were just starting out and would accept geared to income payments which are very minimal. The last one I tried to work with on the first session asked me, in a tone of voice that was when baffled and blaming, "why would you go back to this person?" when I told her that the Jian Gomeshi trial I had attended triggered things for me around the prosecutors blaming and dismissing Lucy's statement of abuse by Gomeshi.
Thank You Irene, Grateful for you
all this makes SO much sense :)
Yes! I can tell the minute someone puts their hands on me if they are connected to their body!
Its funny cus the exact things you say to do to help with trauma is exactly what i started doing a few weeks ago even before seeing this and honestly ive gotten more results doing this then i have in years
Dear Irene, in 1984 (18 yo) I received an ECT treatment. I grew up in an emotionally unhappy family and can remember times when I was traumatized at home and in school. In 2005, I self-realized and found great relief from beliefs that did not serve me well. So now I have a much better understanding, but my body is still traumatized. I have tremors in parts of my body that I was told were due to medications, but they are probably due to trauma as well. Sometimes when drinking a glass of something, my hand will jump and spill some. My medications are Zyprexa, Depakote, and Lithium. I also take fish oil and melatonin. My biggest problem is loss of sleep leading to mania. Also, I've noticed that when people talk to me, they seem to expect more than what I have to offer. Do you think your offering would be appropriate for me? Thank you.
Hi Kevin, Seth here with team Lyon. Thanks for being here! Yes, I think the somatic, nervous system based work would be appropriate for you. When a person is on medications that alter the natural neurochemistry, there will be a ceiling to the work they can do, but you can certainly get started, that's for sure. Implementing some basic practices to start working with your nervous system can only help, though fair notice - it may involve feeling things that you haven't felt before!
@@teamlyon3109 Thanks Seth. What I'll do is follow along on RUclips until I'm ready to get started. Is the program expensive?
Thank you so much Irene, your videos have helped me to understand and have more compassion for myself. I am truly grateful and one day hope to help others do this work also
Thank you. Really touched me... Got some more feeling to do... Blessings to you. Greetings from The Netherlands !
Love Holland, wonderful people
@@SuperDflower Thank you... We've got assholes too, but I guess there are places that are worse... Haha
@@arjanblad416 There is a teddy where they’re not assholes! But some places are just so much more socially enjoyable. The circumstance has brought out the worst in everyone almost….. This is why those of us who are aware have to stay really vigilant about showing up for one another. Most people are sleepwalking. It’s just that some places are culturally more appealing to me, so it’s not a value judgment necessarily. But that being said, I do really like the Dutch!
@@SuperDflower Well said. I couldn't agree more... Are you from Europe ?
I find that TRE is useful for releasing muscle tension enough that I can connect with my body. Same with things like breath work. I've never gotten any kind of "trauma release" from them. They're simply tools that force me to slow down and help ground me in the present moment. I usually do a body scan afterwards.
*that you know of
@@queengoblin I've been doing TRE for 6 years. There have been zero improvements in my trauma recovery that can be attributed solely to TRE.
@@ShadowRaven66669 I had the exact opposite experience and had life changing improvements. The process is so misrepresented in this video. I spent thousands of dollars on SE and had only minor improvements. Still, I would never trash SE, it helps so many. Why do people trash TRE when it does too?
@@lmm5892 I agree about Somatic Experiencing. I attended the full certification course but did not complete as I witnessed and experienced its limits and the limits of the main teacher who was clearly still in the grip of unresolved material and very controlling. That bothered me a lot at the time. It caused me to reset my path and leave; I am glad I did, plus saved thousands of $$ of 3 years training. I would have made a crap SE therapist as it would not have been authentic ; I learned everything of value and I needed in 6 months.
It is really important to know when you need to pivot away from a course of action that is not serving your emancipation from abuse, trauma, fight, flight, freeze and, fawn, and before you will be benefit in helping others. To be accurate with that, tuning in to your heart, gut, bodily truth in knowing, and higher intuition, becomes consequential. My discovery was as Irene states, tuning in to oneself leads you to the next opening. A therapy that worked last month may not be the one for the next layer of resolution. It requires a finely attuned ear to the heart....and the development of that.❤
I want more. I want to listen to your voice and heart through a better microphone. I want to know what you mean by "really". And I would like to learn about techniques that are newer than 30 years.
You are awesome! None of the psychologs I was working with mentioned it!
I'm so glad I came across this...fascinating. Thank you!
Hey Irene is it normal to oscillate between freeze states and flight states? I find myself often in one or the other and also dissociating often starts to make me feel anxious because I feel disconnected from the world. So they seem to be very connected for me. Thanks!
Hi Natasha Hall, Jen here from Team Lyon. Yes, this is very common. As we take steps to grow nervous system regulation and capacity, this typically changes.
“It goes back to the way it was before.”Every time I feel like I have a release of trauma from my body. It feels like it goes back to the way it was. How do I connect to my body?
Hi Joy Allen, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm just seeing that I missed your question. Sorry about that. Sometimes we need to titrate the trauma work a bit more, and/or take some steps to grow more capacity in the nervous system to support sustainable change after the release. I'll link to a few videos about titration here in case you want to check them out.
Titration Explained: Never Rush Trauma Healing - irenelyon.com/2020/04/26/titration-explained-never-rush-trauma-healing/
The Important of Titrating Trauma Release - ruclips.net/video/EdWtz8H0WK8/видео.html
@@teamlyon3109 Thanks Jen!
@@mjcjjcc7, pleasure!
Thank you! Happy to learn about terrain theory.
i love your eyebrows & face shape! they pair together so well
Thank you for sharing. I'm very grateful..
Have come to realize this in others to expose them. Figuring how to support instead of trigger.
What is the difference between a dissoated mind and the natural capacity of the mind to enter a meditative state. Both are altered states of awareness but it is difficult to differenciate one from the other.
1:07:00: thank you for not insisting on knowing what a person's trauma was. Colleagues, managers, HR, recruitment consultants, landlords, letting agents, housemates, neighbours, always demand that information. I sometimes snap and say: 'Just watch violent child porn'.
So what I'm getting is that to release old stress, I need to do what I didn't do when it was acute.
How about generational trauma?
I think I might have some of that going on because I've had insomnia issues since day one and mental illness runs in both my paternal and maternal family.
How do you work with that?
I can't exactly ask my grandmother about it because she won't even admit that she worries herself physically sick regularly.
Gold info! Thanks very much ❤
this was incredibly helpful and insightful thank you
When i am tracking my body and get in touch with those unresolved trauma energies in my physiology and i get an impulse to scream, do i have to scream in the present moment in order to release the trauma? Do we have to follow the impulse and release it/bring closure in the present moment just the way it comes out from the system (for example scream, push, cry) or is it more important just to feel the terror and fear? How do you know when the trauma fully is released from the system? Thanks for your channel and videos Irene xx
Her eBook she says work with it in the moment
Hi Nea, Jen here from Team Lyon. When possible, the idea is to follow the nervous system impulse and allow it to express in the moment if we have the capacity to do so. If you're not able to to it in the moment, you can also do it later by imagining the situation.
This is the general idea, and it can be nuanced depending on a variety of different factors. Irene teaches more about how to do this in her online course and program.
@@teamlyon3109 thanks Jen! xx
Sometimes more is not better, but Less is More.
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In some videos you mentioned that we shouldn’t really confront people who hurt us. But then sometimes healing trauma means to speak up and say something. How would we know when it’s best to speak up?
Hi Lorena R, Jen here from Team Lyon. In this work, we mostly teach people to work through their traumatic response by working with the nervous system. If you have someone in your life who's open to learning about this too, it can be powerful to grow awareness of what's happening in the moment and how to support one another in different ways, including at the nervous system level.
Often this isn't available, or there's someone in our life who hurt us who's not open to learning or hearing about this. In this case, it's still often helpful to work through the traumatic response outside of the relationship and then decide if we want to address it directory with the person. One of the main reasons for this is that when we speak from a highly charged state, people usually respond to our state more than our words and it can easily lead to reinforcing a painful pattern or cycle.
@@teamlyon3109 thanks for the reply!! 🙏🏼
I can’t like this video enough! So truee! Ancient healing methods as well as tribal child raising was much much much more healthier!
This was fabulous...thank you
I've been living with Childhood trauma I suffered for 14 years of childhood abuse by mybstepfather(alwaysvwS ked to believe he was my real father) not just that trauma but the trauma of the fall out abused and treated bad by kids at school ,teachers,and as an adult jobs and coworkers are horrible..Reject and get me outta here is all I've felt.first sight never get a chance to get to know me or understand me.or just leave me alone if u don't want to..when ibwzs growing up I was taught if u didn't like someone you don't bother with them..ican handle silence like I'm not there. How can I get them to leave me alone?.fight or flight doesn't work at work..so I stay and thats not what they want or what is good for me.but every job,I'm 51 now ..quality of life is horrible.i used to be able to navigate it all much better. .mayby its cuz I'm old now...im older than my coworkers boss and supervisor now at this job 90's music plays all day and I feel like I'm stuck in a bad nightmare.is this all normal?
I have suffered very simalar things to you bad upbringing, bullying at school rotten jobs and horrible bosses for years on end, i am 56
And have come to the realization that its their problem and they could
Have issues like narcissism, its well worth looking into this physiological disorder i learnt a lot and its helped me avoid some bad people because i have been for armed with knowledge, believe me its not you its
Just certain types of people can sense someone who is different to them and feel threatened, you are
Not alone experiening these kind of
Things, you don't need to change or do anything different just be you and the right people will come into your life, wishing you happiness and healing.
It sounds like you have CPTSD. And we often very much personalize other peoples behaviors. Try to stay within your own body. You can do that by deep breathing, stroking your forearms. You can also train yourself to start interacting with the thoughts you’re having about their behavior. What are you making it mean about you? Maybe your background is making some of their comments a more heightened thing than it is? Trust me I understand all of these feelings. Life can be better if we can sort of question our thought patterns.
Nicole Rachelle it seems to me that you've been taught through abuse to be in situations that aren't what is right for you. When you can recognise that you are in a situation that is not right for you and you get yourself out of it, this is the rewiring of your brain that will be part of your trauma healing. It's hard to take care of ourselves with this when we've been neglected in this way. Try to focus on your right to walk away from people and situations that you don't feel comfortable with and relax into the pain that comes up. Self hugs, rubbing and patting are good self soothing for the body. It's what nurturers naturally do to comfort a distressed child. Be gentle with yourself to find a better fit for you for work. Don't use your past experiences of abuse as the indicator of your future. Believe in yourself that you are taking the steps needed to make your future different to your past. Use empowering language for your self-talk.
@@lornocford6482 absolutely terrific advise!
@@dawnacoxon3111 thank you ☺️
Both parents were emotionally unavailable chaotic childhood fight or flight since childhood in 58 and wanting to understand how to release decades of traumas there’s not one incident but many I brought up three children and loved them but was dealing with inner anxiety that I pretty much walked thru carried it with me ... I am aware of many traumas like at birth mom said they had to use forceps to take me out I’m thinking that wasn’t a great way to enter the world 🌎😢 ... Theres so many along with marrying a person who was I was afraid of his temper moods etc ... I want to be healed not medicated I want to thrive not just survive 😔 I feel like I can have a wonderful life but it’s really sucky dealing with feeling anxious 24/7 for decades tried everything and talk therapy is not helpful medication 💊 is all I’ve been told to take 🤦♀️ I want to understand and heal I’ve spent thousands of dollars 💵 that I never had to find help and healing ... I believe the body can heal but we need to know how I think looking for relief and healing has caused more anxiety 😟
I hear and feel ya Rojo. I am sorry that you too are suffering. Wishing you the best.
Sometimes i get angry that im the one who needs to learn about this even though im the one needing the help but ive come to realize yea im the one who also needs to get educated and even though i wish my psychologist knew more about this than i do it’s not just practical to expect that. Or maybe I should look for another psychologist idk
Hi umdoistres, Seth here with Team Lyon. Yes, that completely makes sense! Unfortunately most psychologists do not understand trauma at all, and that's because they haven't done the training. There are many Somatic Experiencing Practitioners in the world though, and a lot of them are also Psychologists, so it may be time to find a new one. Here's a video that might be helpful... ruclips.net/video/04XF7ANnqGk/видео.html
Irene, just a kind feedback. You are doing a good job trying to give info. After watching some of your videos , I started to get confused about how to heal traumas, irrational fears from childhood. My understanding is your solutions are good to release some stress. I don't think you are offering any concrete demo of how to release deeply embeded trauma. You mentioned certain things won't work but there is no clear demo of what will work. It would be helpful if you write down what techniques you wanna give for free on videos like this and what parts you want to keep for your clients.
Hello, Sophia from Team Lyon here. Thank you for your feedback. Irene's RUclips material is educational in nature. Through the years, Irene developed her own "Scientuitive" style of healing, influenced by her studies on Feldenkreis, Somatic Experiencing and Somatic Practice. Samples of work, as well as free practical "neurosensory" exercises can be found here, under the "audio sample" portion of the page: irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
Also, for clarity, an example of information about what is included in Irene's paid programs (VS social media) can be found here: 21daytuneup.com/
Please reach out to our support inbox should you need further information.
Irene! Never seen that name, ever!
It’s my middle name.
My name is my profile name, just spelled differently. So bizarre! I had to tune in! We are also the same age! 93 graduate as well. Born in 75…
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Hello Irene, with all your training I wonder at you calling it human animal instead of human child, human being etc. And our body as animal when it is human: it is permeated with our human spirit part, which we and only we do have. The fact that we share the astral (sentient soul) body with the animals and the etheric (life-force) body with the plants, and the physical body with the minerals (stones) doesn't MAKE us stones, plants or animals. We have it enlivened and penetrated by our spiritual humanity I know it trendy (I hope not permanent, but fear so).
About clothing and body temperature: Right, but an infant doesn't have the same well developed thermostat we do and need good clothing, protection for their head by a little hat etc.They get cold easier than we. IDK if it also has to do with bad circulation, lying down so much, but don't think they would have been created that way. Thank you for the video. Hope i get trauma help now soon.
She thinks we are animals. Some people think we are no different to animals.
Im a huge advocate for natural home birth bc those early experiences are so crucial for proper development and so much unnecessary trauma and damage occurs during medicalized hospital births on so many levels.
Not necessarily. I was born at home and my father was a narcissist , I was my mother's fourth pregnancy, she aborted the one after me, but she had had enough of kids. My father told me when I came out of my mother his heart sank. I wish she had aborted me. I'm 60 and refused to have children after seeing the shit show I was born into. At home.
So if you have to let yourself « feel » the emotions to heal... what do we do in a panic attack ? If breathing for exemple is useless. And what are your thoughts on medication ?? Thank you
Hi Athena, Jen here from Team Lyon. Medication is a personal choice, we're not physicians here and generally speaking medication can sometimes be helpful to create enough stability in the nervous system to be able to do this work (and live with less pain and discomfort).
As far as panic attacks go, with the nervous system work we are taking steps to address them at the root level so they often dissipate and even disappear as people do this work. In the interim, it's important to do whatever works for you in the moment, and connecting to what's happening in the here and now is a key part of this. I'll link to a few of Irene's resources that may also be helpful here.
4 Surprisingly Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm.... - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
DIY Ancient Anxiety Medicine - ruclips.net/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/видео.html
Look at Daniel Mackler grieving the healing key to trauma You Tube
Can Fibromyalgia be old trauma? I have had: car accidents, falls. studied martial arts, have chronic illness and loss of Neuromuscular control in left thigh and finally osteoarthritis and diabetic neuropathy.
Yes Angel, it can. If the nervous system is dysregulated, any and all "dis-ease" can manifest.
I worked at a chiropractic clinic for three years, and every patient with fibromyalgia had experienced abuse and/or trauma. When I spoke to my employer, who had been trained in fibromyalgia, he agreed that during his entire practice every patient with that diagnosis eventually opened up to him about abuse or trauma.
I am so grateful that I love you.
Can someone put the key concepts in the comments? I can't watch the whole thing with the layers of examples
Thank you for the many ah-ha moments. In counselling I have been unable to describe how my body feels. Somehow grounding was just not enough, so I will be exploring the aspect of my body
I am at a point--after much study and self help I am needing a support system that is not costly. A place to meet others who are suffering from childhood trauma any Ideas???
Hi Barbara Jackson, Jen here from Team Lyon. Irene has a facebook group called the Healthy Nervous System Revolution. There are people there who post and ask questions, and I'm not sure if it's as interactive as what you have in mind. Her starter nervous system program offers some opportunity for interaction and support too, including the ability to post observations and questions on the program site.
There are approaches such as Authentic Relating and Non-Violent Communication that may be with exploring, and they may not be trauma informed. You could also do a search for facebook groups and/or participate in 12 Step programs such as Al-Anon. Many people have found great benefit from those and sometimes they can also be environments that make it easy to stay in an old (limiting) way of being. Hopefully some others will post ideas here too.