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"You're a disease. They're the cure." That line, is just so powerful. Venom was essentially, an addiction for Peter. His friends, even his bully knew something was up, and tried to help in their own way. But Peter ignored all of it. Up to a point. Up until he realizes what a jackass he's been under Venom's influence. The lesson Spectacular Spider-Man teaches with Venom is simple but powerful: You can't help people who don't want to be helped. And that's why this show is so incredible. It tackled real life issues in a way that was easy for a younger audience to understand, while still treating the older crowds with respect.
My only issues is that some of the people featured in his mind absolutely shouldn’t have been there. They either weren’t friends or just essentially strangers to Peter.
@@acemstudio like I swear Hobe and Glory haven’t even really said a word to the dude at this point. Most of the jocks except Rand were his bullies up to this point. They do this multiple times too with characters that just happen to be in the show and not ones that have been at all someone who would be part of the “cure.” It’s just weird.
@@notspider-man7777 I mean even if it is, that cover had every major character to celebrate the 100th issue. This is using the characters as for why he doesn’t need the negative influence of the symbiote. But some of those character either are negative influence on Peter or just nothing at all to him so it’s just weird. Like they could’ve removed them and the point still would’ve been made and the imagery would’ve been just as powerful.
Flash Thompson's talk with Peter is, in my very informed opinion, the greatest moment in his character's history. Forget going to Vietnam. Giving Peter Parker a reality check at his lowest moment is a thing of beauty. He saved his hero that day. What could be more wonderful than that? God, I know it's selfish as a Spider-Fan, but I truly wish that Disney had never bought Marvel, or at least waited another five years. Spectacular could have become the definitive version of Peter Parker if it wasn't for corporate bullshit.
The 90s STS was a simple picture-perfect comic Spider-Man, but The Spectacular Spider-Man is a far more in-depth examination of Peter Parker/Spider-Man, his supporting cast and his villains.
I can't forgive SSM venom ark one thing: absence of a nightmare scene. John Semper literally reinvented venom saga. And 90's version, with adjustments of course, has been used in almost every spider man content.
Personally, I've always preferred the metaphor of a toxic relationship portrayed in the original 1980s "Black Suit Saga" - the reason the symbiote bonds to Peter in the original telling is that it loves the way it feels to ride around on his body, and I think there are a couple of explicit times in early comics appearances that Venom actually mentioned that his motivation for the hatred he shows towards Peter is that it _loved him,_ and felt betrayed when that love wasn't returned. It gave him all that extra power - organic webbing, increased strength and agility, changing its shape to form clothes for him so he didn't have to change out of his costume - because it wanted to stay with him as much as possible... it gave Peter so many reasons to never take it off, because it loved him and didn't want to leave him at all, ever. The increased aggression didn't come from the symbiote at first - the reason Peter initially became so short-tempered and aggressive was due to being constantly exhausted, because the symbiote would hijack his body while he slept to go out webslinging at night. It wanted to keep the thrill of using Peter's superhuman body because it enjoyed it, and didn't care about the impact on Peter's life. The symbiote represented a possessive, self-entitled, narcissistic kind of love, showering Peter with gifts of increased power as long as it was allowed to stay and do what it wanted - Peter, in turn, was the codependent who spent a long time in denial about the damage the relationship was doing to him, only allowing himself to see the benefits of the suit despite everyone he cared about warning him about the effect it was having on him. And when he finally came to accept that the relationship was toxic, he broke away - only for the narcissistic symbiote to find someone else (Eddie Brock) whom it could use to get back at Peter, and take its spiteful revenge against the lover it felt had betrayed it. Venom's first act in the comics (after becoming a separate character rather than being known as just "the symbiote") was to get all "Single White Female" with Mary Jane, kidnapping her and threatening her life because Peter loved her more than he did the suit. Venom carried a burning hatred for Spidey for years - decades, even - because it was denied the continued use of Peter's body, the object of its selfish desire that it felt it had a _right_ to possess, without considering how _Peter_ felt about the situation. While the substance-abuse subtext used in later adaptations is just as valid, it feels like there are plenty of other "power corrupts" addiction metaphors out there - but toxic relationships with a narcissist aren't really talked about as much in comics (and _especially_ weren't in the pre-GrimDark days of the 1980s). The only one which springs to mind is the Harley Quinn and Joker thing, but that has been twisted-up and misconstrued as romantic over the years to the point that it now almost glorifies those types of relationship more than it condemns them. Admittedly it's partly because I'm an old fogey who's ancient enough to have actually _read_ these comics when they were first released in the UK, so there's probably an element of nostalgia in my opinion, but I stand by the original telling from the origin on Battleworld in "Secret Wars" to the weird night-time possessions to the dark stalker-like obssession Venom had with Peter for years to come. Gloop from a space-shuttle, my ass - to me, Venom's first appearance was as a black ball from an alien vending machine!
Both metaphors are incredible, but the only flaw i think the "Substance abuse" route has is that Venom becomes just a Spider-Man Villain, instead of being an entire character on their own as an Anti-Hero who HAPPENS to have a grudge with Spider-Man. it wouldn't allow for the Symbiote to change with Eddie as it did in the comics, and it DEFINETLY wouldn't be a good metaphor to go by if they make him like his comic counterpart, because it'd be really weird if they show that the symbiote is an allegory for addiction to Peter and then show Eddie trying to do good using the same substance which, at first, was displayed as a drug. I definetly agree that the original "Toxic relationship" route is the best one because it allows the symbiote to be held accountable for this, as it is a living, sentient being with emotions and it kinda fucked Peter (and Eddie for a while) up, like it's a metaphor for people that used to be toxic, are aware that they fucked up and are trying to change. So it's up to Eddie AND the Symbiote to try and outgrow that hatred and toxic mindset as they try to work together and over time, become more and more like the Lethal Protector they claim they are.
@@fernandopacheco579 exactly on thhe series it wouldn't work but it's beautiful the change Venom and Brock have on the comics and makes me think, if the symbiote was like that from the start he and spidey could still be toguether... but i liike they aren't cause Venom is so cool.
In this show, Spider-man beats Venom by tricking him into saying he's willing to bond with symbiote again, and symbiote ditches Eddie but Peter's strong will (here represents as literal wall of his friends) prevents symbiote from bonding again. This is actually how Spider-man beat Venom first time around in comics. I really miss when writers forget how exactly smart Peter actually is, he's like top five smartest characters in Marvel comics, yet writers frequently forget about that.
The Black Suit is such an interesting arc for Spidey when done right, described perfectly by Alex, which is why i hope Insomniac nails their Black Suit arc for Peter in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and really depict the consequences of "substance abuse" for Peter and everyone around him
One thing that really doesn’t get brought up enough about Spec Spidey is that the supporting cast is the best we have ever gotten in both live action, comics, AND television.
So true! The comics support cast is good, but a lot of them interacted with Spider at different times. Here we have everyone together and it's awesome.
@@stupidchoices7242 Unfortunately that’s unlikely to happen due to rights issues. Disney owns the rights to make new Spider-Man cartoons, but Sony holds the rights to make Spectacular. In order to continue the show it would have to be a joint venture between the two, and Disney is unlikely to do that.
“But he wouldn’t approve” brings tears to my eyes every time. Whole episode does. It’s one of the few favorites of mine that I actively rewatch because I just relate so deeply to that struggle
The superb writing makes it feel real. This series feels as if Spider-Man could exist in real life. A large portion of this is due to the central character of Peter Parker. His interactions with friends and relationships at Midtown High School ground him to a sense of reality.
A character-driven show with a plot stemming from motivations and conflict is good?! No way! I wish they'd copy this concept...! Actually, they did. Which is how we got Arcane. For Hollywood, its's lightning in a bottle that they're eager to throw away.
I like the fact that the symbiote suit changes throughout the arc, it almost shows that Peter is truly giving into the symbiote and embracing the rage. Edit: I’m glad you agreed with me too. I thought I might’ve been the only one who thought that way.
One of the creators revealed this was due to a studio note. They originally wanted to go with the classic comics look for Black Suit Spidey, but the studio wanted it to look similar to the webbed black suit design from Spiderman 3 (brand synergy and all that). They decided to do both, gradually shifting from one to the other to show Peter’s descent into addiction.
Coming from a recovering addict, this episode hits hard. One of the things that stuck with me after leaving treatment was the notion that the "opposite of addiction is connection." And I love how Peter fights back against the symbiote (an allegory for drug addiction) with the connections he's built, the love of his family and friends. It just speaks to me.
Exactly. The sad part was that if Spectacular Spider-Man wasn’t cancelled, it would’ve gotten more seasons & animated movies that would’ve focused on Peter’s college years.
I don't really get why this show is still unfinished considering Sony and Disney have been working together more closely since homecoming, it's probably sonys greed.
Greg Weisman, Victor Cook, Josh Keaton, the entire cast and crew of this amazing show put together something worth remembering. A Spider-Man story worth telling. They cared about their characters and stories they were telling. No huge creative restrictions outside of not using characters outside of the Spider-Man mythos, no lack of direction, and no small risks. Everything about this show feels thought out and you can tell there is genuine love and passion thrown into every frame of animation, every exchange of dialogue, every line delivery, every music piece, and I say this as someone who has enjoyed all three Spider-Man movie franchises, but this is my favorite Spider-Man thing ever.
I have always believed SSM is the single greatest iteration of the character and the lore since the original Lee/Ditko run. Better than the movies, better than Ultimate, better than all the other great runs throughout the decades. If someone asked me to define Spider-Man, I'd politely direct them towards this series.
@Damsen I mean they still never closed off Mary Jane missing. Like they insinuate he’ll find her but we never get to see that closure. And either way Spectacular is still the best Spidey series hands down.
After losing my grandfather a few years ago, I was in such a dark place. To the point where just recently, I’m bettering myself. The Symbiote Spider-Man has always been a character I’ve always been interested in, but could never truly find a definitive reason why. However, that was until I saw Spider-Man lettering, “I’m always here.” This moment, is what broke me to tears. It felt like my grandfather was truly telling me to keep striving to be better. Thank you so much for making this video, and the chance that you do see this comment, thank you for reading!
I really hope Tom Holland's next trilogy will do something like this with their symbiote (it would be really cool to see that kind of psychological thriller in a spiderman film)
Same, specially if this happens in the third film of the new trilogy, which could work as great way to close all six films, with Peter facing the symbiote through all his memories, seen all the experiences he went through all the movies, and in the end overcoming the alien suit, showing how much Peter has grown.
The thing about this is that the Symbiote only works when it affects both Peter and Spiderman’s lives. Peter has no life right now, so Venom would almost entirely be a plus aside from the more aggressive nature he’ll get. Peter would have no conflict because it only affects Spiderman. Peter would need to either reintroduce himself to Ned and MJ naturally, or meet new characters and spend time with them over the course of the trilogy for the Symbiote arc to feel deserved. I hope that either he slowly reintroduces himself to Ned and MJ over the course of the trilogy to naturally become friends with them as just Peter, or that he meets Gwen and Harry and the story takes it from there. Hell even a new cast of characters would be cool. But without relationships, the Symbiote isn’t impactful and would be a waste of one of Spiderman’s greatest storylines
@@scalycoronet5198 Maybe, but it could also work another way: Playing off Peter's loneliness and maybe fear of connecting with others after everything he lost. Maybe Peter is trying to move on after losing Aunt May and having to give up his life, but he's still somewhat bitter and afraid of getting close to others because he might lose it all again. Enter the symbiote preying on all this and Peter has to fight against it and negative emotions he's feeding it.
When i saw the show for the second time i've noticed that Gwen Stacy's dad, the police officer, guessed that Peter was Spider-man and helped to cover up him while he was absent. So many things in the show they done right.
Spectacular didn't rush into the conclusion where Venom is created, either. It took 3 entire episodes to develop the relationship between Peter and the symbiote. It becomes so easy to relate to its words. It becomes so easy to relate to Peter's situation. Hard-earned joy versus short-term pleasure. Spectacular truly was special, it had something for everyone, something for fans of all ages.
This video basically explains why I’ve always loved this show and even why I’ve always loved Spider-Man. Because he’s just an ordinary guy with some super powers that gives into an addiction as easy as the rest of us would. I love this show because it’s able to tackle adult themes like drug addiction in a way kids understand and have a full story arch about overcoming addiction and how it’s not easy. This show is one of the best iterations of Spider-Man and I will forever love it.
The Spectacular Spider-Man is literally one of the best things to happen to the web-slinger and it's DEFINITELY one of the best Spider-Man adaptations. Even though the 90's animated series is my favorite Spider-Man cartoon, I still have high regards for The Spectacular Spider-Man and I wished it got it's third season.
One thing that I love about this arc is that the first villain he fights while wearing the black suit is Chameleon...who's wearing his red and blue suit. It always felt like to me that it was symbolic of the symbiote coming in and "beating" his red and blue suit, "beating" a reflection of his old self, becoming his main costume and (briefly) destroying who he used to be. The line that he says to Chameleon at the end of the episode where he's "the one and only, got it?" just adds on to all this, like the symbiote was telling the red and blue suit that IT will be the only costume that Peter will use from that point on.
Man I remember watching it as a kid. The experience was unforgettable, and to this day I rewatch the show from time to time because it was done beautifully. If only we could somehow bring this show back without ruining it. I'D GIVE EVERYTHING.
This might sound dumb, but the way you explained these concepts was genuinely so captivating that I saw myself in it. My suit is represented by my struggles with constant procrastination, and eventually I end up simply giving up on whatever it was that I had to, or even *wanted* to do. Thanks to you, I'm not gonna let it win, for tonight at least. Appreciate it man, been a long time fan of yours and you never miss a beat with these analysis videos
I ADORE this show. I consider this series as the BEST depiction of the character and his mythos. Because it's basically a love letter to Spidey & his world. Also, each episode of the series are bangers.
Alex words cannot express how awesome of a creator you are. You’re passion seeps through every single one of your videos and it’s infectious. One of the only people on this platform who’s videos captivate me from start to finish. Never stop being you and be proud of yourself man.
Dude first batman and then spiderman with this video, the characters that I relate to, the characters I love. I can feel the passion with which you talk about them, I feel the way you heighten the character defining moments these masked heros goes through that truly shapes them. You have a soft spot for trauma I can tell, you understand it, specially understand how trauma drives these characters to br better. I love your work man...thanks for the batman video, its has been like a religious practice for me to come back to the batman video every often and now I'll find myself coming back to this. please keep reminding us why we love these characters so much.
This to me has always been of the most memorable episodes from the show and the way Peter Parker goes with it makes it relatable wanting to give up your self to our demons but shows us that even in a darkest of days there’s Always a way to overcome them and be a greater version of yourself
Perfect timing. I was just writing an essay on No Way Home and got distracted looking for a quote from a Venom trailer, and I see this. I was wondering if you'd ever make a video on Spectacular, and I'm so happy you did. I needed the inspiration, the motivation, especially now where my personal life is on a different low than it's been so far. Thanks Alex.
The best part about your vids is that you can see genuinely how much you care about these stories. These are characters that genuinely affected your life, you’re not just going through the motions in a film review if you get me.
@@notsocooldude7720 The voice actors may have changed but with voice changers and the technology we have can fix that. But sadly that’s not the case here
I’ve loved Spider-Man all my life and have consumed so much Spider-Man media that I thought I understood all the subtext of the major iconic arcs. But the symbiote story being an allegory for substance abuse never registered with me fully until this video. Spider-Man really is the perfect fictional every man. Fantastic stuff Alex. Hope you’re doing okay.
While its an allegory for substance abuse in this show, in the original comics it was more like a toxic relationship. Really though both metaphors work really well for the concept of the symbiote, at least as it was depicted in the 80s before its mythology was continually expanded on exponentially, until it became its own thing entirely in the wider marvel universe. Not that I mind that because its still really cool now, but my point is that the metaphors work best pre-"lethal protector" era venom and in adaptations taking cues from that early part of the symbiotes history.
This is my favorite version of Venom in any medium. I really wish that the show had a chance to tackle the symbiote's having lied to Eddie by omission and keeping him from realizing that Peter did *not* abandon them in the Connors arc. Would have made a great commentary on toxic relationships
I always loved this episode as a kid. I never found a way to properly explain why I loved this episode so much, and you put it perfectly here HiTop. I still stand by the fact that you really do understand Spider-Man and what makes him great and I wish others thought the way you do
How does this dude get so much out of clips and movies and just break them down on emotional and personal level this dude is so damn smart I would never thought of this when I was a kid and watched spectacular Spider-Man I never knew that what the meaning was of this these episodes thank you for just making that show more enjoyable to watch and I can appreciate that a lot more and all of your comments you make me like me because I don't really never really cuz you just break them down
I actually never realized how the Black suit actually changes overtime, the spidey logo starts becoming larger and more sinister like the comics and the webbing starts to fade less and less to the point where there is no webbing and it's just the symbiote. Such a nice detail to portray how the symbiote consumes Peter.
Thanks for making this Hi-Top. I too was going into a depressive spiral where I kept questioning my self worth and I felt so helpless and alone until my friends intervened and comforted me. Propped me up so I could stand up again. This video really spoke to me.
It's a shame that the Black suit arc was just 3 episodes long, it was amazing seen how the white spider grew with each episode and how the eyes looked more and more like venom.
the amount of glee and euphoria that flooded my body when I saw the thumbnail of you doing a Spectacular Spider-Man study!! My favorite cartoon growing up and my favorite Spidey adaption!!!
This along with Morbius are two great franchises depicting Spider-Man and the villains surrounding him. Despite Morbius being obviously better, but that’s a conversation for another day.
My favorite part about this arc is when Peter/Spider-Man is fighting the Sinister Six and through out the fight the Six is getting the upper hand and then Spider-Man stops his wise cracking jokes and lets the Venom Suit take over and starts beating the Six in ways that are meant to hurt/nearly kill them and slowly you see the suit changing from the Black Suit with his stripes into the famous Black Suit with the huge spider this arc was Insane.
I like all the objects and characters being used as metaphors to reflect or foil Peter. Venom being the most obvious example, but my favorite example is the gene cleanser that reverted the lizard back to Dr Connors. It was also used as a metaphor for suicide, as peter using it to give up, dodge responsibilities, and avoid pain. Then later on Venom uses it as a weapon, almost like a gun, to "end" Spider-Man. Also the Globulin Green is clearly a metaphor for drugs. This show is so amazi- Spectacular
Arguably the greatest animated superhero show of all time. An absolute tragedy it only ran for 26 episodes. I know most people would probably have btas as the number one animated show ever and although I’m a huge dc fan and not much of a marvel fan, this show was probably my favorite. I still can’t believe it was cut short, and I’m still hoping it’ll be revived at some point and continue like the clone wars show was able to (obviously I would want there to be many more seasons made not just one). Although the Spider-Man animated series of the 90’s was good this was better and was nearly flawless. A true shame it didn’t have the same run time as shows like BTAS and STAS.
one thing about the venom symbiote i find interesting, is that while it was originally an 80's drug psa, it could also be interpreted as a metaphor for a toxic relationship. hell, you could even interpret it that way in the spectacular cartoon, eddie straight up refers to venom as "the one i love" in one episode. and in the comics, peter strips off his costume and screams "you want me? then take me! im yours!" in his underwear, you can't get more homoerotic than that! the tom hardy movies are the good ending, happy pride month everyone.
I’ve been waiting for this video forever!! The Symbiote arc is the best and my favorite in everything. Movies, comics, series. And this version is my favorite of all time!! THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!!!!
I like the detail that when spidey saves someone with the symbiote on for the first time (preventing the airplane crush) Eddie is the first name that we hear him thinking, good foreshadowing
It's the single best version of the symbiote suit storyline in any Spider-Man adaptation outside the comics imo. Because it's the one that emphasizes the deeper allegories and themes that come with that arc about battling with inner demons and substance abuse to get away as quick, cheap way to get away from the pain of life the best. I'm hoping the other best Spider-Man adaptation, Insomniac's Spider-Man, can give us as much of an emotionally poignant interpretation of the symbiote and Venom in Spider-Man 2.
I lost my job in the last week, i had covid before that and before that my partners grandma died. It feels like the hits haven't stopped coming. I was brought to tears by the words "the only way is through", i feel like i can only see a void when i look into the future, but inside that void is the totality of all things. Thankyou for reminding me that we are all strong enough to keep moving forward, even when we fall.
Masterpiece of a series and still doesn't get enough recognition in the mainstream media. No other Spider-Man show holds a candle to this one. Not TAS, not TNAS, not anything. Also I really appreciated the detail with the black suit's webs slowly disappearing over time as it took over
Wow man I didn’t think this video would hit me so Damn hard. I’ve been in a dark world too much after losing so much again and again it’s like I’m never allowed to be happy it’s always a struggle. I don’t know why that hit me so damn deeply in my feelings like I felt it was so personal, this video honestly made me step back and look at myself. It feels corny but spider man is so inspirational, I know he’s a comic book character but I find inspiration in his never ending will to face his challenges and darkness. that’s something I can’t do so well. “You can’t bring those you lost back” “it’s easy to fuck , to snort, to smoke to drink your problems away” those words hit me so hard at work. this whole video is kind of what I needed at this point, especially the part when Peter faces his worst fears and fight his demons head on even though it’s hard and traumatic he gets up after every hit and doesn’t give up on life. Spider man always was my favourite hero and after the last few years losing family and friends he’s definitely my favourite character ever. I’ve felt like I’m at the end of my rope , like my story doesn’t go much farther than this, all it’s been the last few years was pain, suffering and loneliness & just when I thought I found myself again I lost it. she was the best I ever had , and it was my fault she left, I wasn’t enough just like always and I’ve been just in a rotting state since and meanwhile she is blooming like a flower doing so well. I don’t know what to do anymore, she brought me into the light after so many years seeing the world as cruel and unfair and thinking so pessimistic about everything. it’s pain to see how far I’ve fallen from only 2 months ago, this 10 minute video has made me seriously question myself and my thought’s recently. Death has been on my mind , the thought of taking my life ,but funnily enough a video essay on RUclips causes me to reconsider. Maybe it’s becos I feel empty and the thought of giving it all up seems peaceful even but seeing how Peter Parker doesn’t shy away from his fears and darkness is really really inspiring even if he’s just a character I’ve always wanted to have his admirable qualities. I’m writing this down becos I’m convinced I just might go forward with my thoughts and someone who’s at their end doesn’t have much to lose writing all this stuff. I wrote a whole lot , wow I didn’t expect myself to let so much out in a silly little comment section but here we are, the world is headed somewhere I’m not excited about and I’m all alone again like I was before I met her. And that’s the hardest thing to deal with, sometimes I wish I had Peter’s spider power and his willpower. After going through so much loss again and again it’s hard to keep holding onto life, I’ve tried and tried but god it’s a lonely existence even when I distracted myself with drugs, sex and alcohol i couldn’t heal from the pain it only pushed it down into the depths until it came back up again like wood in the water. I always think about how much harder life will be for my mother and sister and family members and friends across this province that I live in if I did go through with my thoughts, that’s the only thing stopping me from doing so. spider man will always be a character I can relate to on a personal level as nerdy as that sounds seeing him get thrown down and beaten up by the world like me countless times he still gets up, doesn’t ever quit and stands up with a smile, always making jokes in tough situations. my whole life has almost felt like an accident like the universe is punishing me for something I never did, every time I’ve found a glimmer of hope and happiness it’s taken away from me just as fast, while everyone else I know has support , people who want to hear their story but it’s different for me and plenty of other men, we’re supposed to “just deal with it” and our emotions are pushed to the sidelines I can’t even control how I feel about talking about it, I just feel shame and embarrassment most times becos it’s how people make you feel when you show just how fragile you actually are. it’s a cold world out there but people like Peter Parker and some of the people I’ve met make it seem almost like I can conquer my demons too and go out into the world as someone who I am proud of and can deal with things himself. I put too much meaning into words and actions and I know that becos in this day and age men like that are not seen as worthwhile by society, and people , we just have to go to work do the time and go home then restart day in day out. “This is just how it is” they say but I don’t want to live like this I want to be someone who changes things for the better who can adapt to anything. but maybe it’s okay that I feel like dying right now because just maybe I’ll find that light at the end of the tunnel again, but that’s hard to believe after all I just got lucky with her. she kept me grounded in reality and now she’s with someone else already, like we didn’t share memories and personal things. I gave up on love and gave it a second chance for her, I ended up being the one who feel deeply in love, it was her who was really into me at first and I was scared of getting with someone again after all my other relationships ended with me being cheated on but I opened up and started to see the world in colour again. the way this show portrays that dark bleak feeling of being so disconnected with the world you see only two colours is so beautiful just like how I only saw two choices before: death or prolonged suffering. And I think the colour is returning to my world slowly but surely I try each day but it’s incredibly difficult nowadays being an adult and all, my friends live in different places and I don’t talk to most of them anymore because they’re not interested. I always give advice to people like I’m some wise man who knows it all but I don’t, I don’t even know what I want anymore I’m lost in a world of black and white seeing only two sides, life and death. I want to live but this existence feels like too much sometimes, it’s hard to live on like this. I doubt this entire thing will be read by a single soul but I hope someone else can get the same kind of inspiration I did, a bittersweet feeling of knowing you can’t change the past , can’t change our mistakes but that we have the ability to be better than we were yesterday no matter how flawed we may be
Dude... thank you for this video. Sincerely. Thank you. I've been mired by depressive anxiety lately. Sure, I'm scaling the corporate ladder, and I just bought a house with my wife of 9 years, and I'm making music with a new band that's reaching people, but I just turned 30, and with that comes looking back with shame and regret over how I treated people when I was younger. I look back at how many people in my life have passed on, and how I hid the pain with drugs and sex, and that shame has made me isolate. In some instances, regression or suicide were viable options. Last year, after coming out of my last episode, I got a tattoo in viking runes of the phrase "be better," as a reminder that the past is real, but I am a better man and will always strive to be better. And this video reminded me of that. To anyone who is struggling, don't give up and reach out. Friends and family truly are the cure.
Spectacular spider-man has always been one of my favorite interpretations of the character and this video explains so much of why it's the best. It's so easy to see the love and care the show runners have for the character and it's easy to tell that they understand everything about spider-man. I love this video and how in depth your analysis is of this story in the show. whenever you post it's the highlight of my week honestly thank you HiTop
This show, is one of the founding members that built my childhood. I love this show and always will, still to this day one of the BEST Spider-Man cartoons out there. Really wish we were able to get a good sequel to the show but at least the ending wasn't bad at all and left it at pretty good odds of staying complete or adding a future project to it. The Venom Arcs were my favorite because when Venom showed up, I always felt this sense of dread and fear for Pete, I love the episode where they fight in Peter's school and he damn near gets outted to the public, I love the episode where Venom ambushes Pete at his own home and abducts Gwen, etc etc etc I love every episode😂awesome vid, and thanks for talkin about an OG dope show💯💯💯 Edit: Damn I was young when I saw this show, and I never realized how they snuck in an addiction and intervention theme in the show since I never understood that, that's so cool that they did this in such a cool way.
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I've loved Spider-Man my entire life and this episode has always been my favorite of the show and hugely inspired me to be a better person. In fact, the entire character of Spider-Man and Peter Parker has inspired me to be a better person, to never give up, to help others in need, and to have hope. This character and particularly this episode of the show has showed me that my loved ones will always be there for me and I can always be there for them. To me the character of Spider-Man is symbol of love, doing the right thing, hope, and that the potential for all of those things is in us all.
They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits of NO WAY HOME But do you know who else deserves a big thank you? LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy and TASM1 had depth Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toys
to be fair it was probably avi's idea to redesign tom's suit a million times and redesign and "modernize" the villains, you know, so they could sell more toys
I hate that the show got canceled it's the only good animated Spider-Man show since the '90s and the original. Absolutely underrated in its time and luckily become more appreciated
We need a version of Spidey where he gets to keep the Symbiote and make it good, but we also get to keep the villains that come with it simply because it all really cool
That thumbnail is amazing! Also so nice to see love for thi show's black suit arc. As a kid I was mesmerized by how dark & psychological the show got while still retaining the cool aspects. The Uncle Ben part is still in my memory.
So happy to have you back Alex ✊️ and with a spectacular new upload from my fave series starring the web head haha. I resonated very deeply with this episode man due to personal demons I've been fighting. And seeing your dive into the meaning of this episode is just stellar man. All the best and hope you're well ✊️🤘
Spectacular Spiderman and the 90s Animated series are the reason I dont have an urge to see Venom in every live action Spiderman adaptation and it's because those 2 shows did it right
Feels so good hearing you talk about a spider-man product you fully love :) dont mean that in a sarcastic way or anything it's genuinely great. Hopefully TAS or TNAS are up next some time
Jumped out of my bed as soon as I saw the notification with spectacular spider man and your channel. This is my favorite animated series and this episode is my favorite episode. Thank you for doing this video and giving me enjoy from nowhere.
What I always loved about this show are thee villains. Seriously setting them up in each episode in detail just made them more fleshed out. Having Sandman and Rhino as lowly crooks 4 episodes before they get powers made their vendettas against Spider-Man very real. And all of them had amazing banter. Seriously maybe the best versions of the Spider-Man rogues
The Spectacular Spider-Man was exactly that, “Spectacular”. Giving nearly each character depth and having storylines build on each other really makes the story of Spectacular Spider-Man feel like one, consistent, real world. With things in one episode focused on one character, have effects on other characters. A story with multiple strands coming together to create a single, beautiful story. Forever one of the best animated superhero shows of all time. My only problem with it is Peter’s frustrating inability to keep his eyes on a single girl, but I guess that makes sense cause he’s been a loser since forever and is only now getting attention but dammit petey focus on Gwennnn for f’s sakeeeeee.
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hey Alex! Have you watched Moon Knight yet?
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Are you still gonna make the Titans video?
Finally a video on Spectacular Spider-Man I always wanted to hear your thoughts and opinions about this show!
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"You're a disease. They're the cure." That line, is just so powerful. Venom was essentially, an addiction for Peter. His friends, even his bully knew something was up, and tried to help in their own way. But Peter ignored all of it. Up to a point. Up until he realizes what a jackass he's been under Venom's influence. The lesson Spectacular Spider-Man teaches with Venom is simple but powerful: You can't help people who don't want to be helped. And that's why this show is so incredible. It tackled real life issues in a way that was easy for a younger audience to understand, while still treating the older crowds with respect.
My only issues is that some of the people featured in his mind absolutely shouldn’t have been there. They either weren’t friends or just essentially strangers to Peter.
@@yowatchie yeah I think Harry's dad was there which GIRL listen he is nothing but problems for Peter lol
@@acemstudio like I swear Hobe and Glory haven’t even really said a word to the dude at this point. Most of the jocks except Rand were his bullies up to this point. They do this multiple times too with characters that just happen to be in the show and not ones that have been at all someone who would be part of the “cure.” It’s just weird.
@@yowatchie That part was a homage to the cover of ASM #100. They probably just threw everyone on there because that’s basically what the cover did.
@@notspider-man7777 I mean even if it is, that cover had every major character to celebrate the 100th issue. This is using the characters as for why he doesn’t need the negative influence of the symbiote. But some of those character either are negative influence on Peter or just nothing at all to him so it’s just weird. Like they could’ve removed them and the point still would’ve been made and the imagery would’ve been just as powerful.
Josh Keaton played the perfect high school teenager Peter Parker and Yuri Lowenthal is the perfect experienced adult Spider-Man.
You know how every superhero has that one definitive voice? Josh and Yuri share that mantle for Spider-Man to me
@@ThePugDawg3 Can’t argue with that.
I agree, Keaton and Lowenthal are to Spider man what Kevin Conroy is to Batman.
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Yuri could probably play an older version of the spectacular Spider-Man in some kind of Disney plus show
Flash Thompson's talk with Peter is, in my very informed opinion, the greatest moment in his character's history. Forget going to Vietnam. Giving Peter Parker a reality check at his lowest moment is a thing of beauty. He saved his hero that day. What could be more wonderful than that?
God, I know it's selfish as a Spider-Fan, but I truly wish that Disney had never bought Marvel, or at least waited another five years. Spectacular could have become the definitive version of Peter Parker if it wasn't for corporate bullshit.
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Flash went too vietnam?
Also not selfish at all
@@thegreatacolyt1277 yeah
*As much as I adore the 90s Spider-Man TAS, this show was just absolutely fantastic. It really sucks that it got canceled after the second season.*
I hope you didn’t. The show was absolutely unfortunately canceled
The 90s cartoon ran, so that Spectacular could walk.
At least TAS had great conclusion to spideys arc
The 90s STS was a simple picture-perfect comic Spider-Man, but The Spectacular Spider-Man is a far more in-depth examination of Peter Parker/Spider-Man, his supporting cast and his villains.
I can't forgive SSM venom ark one thing: absence of a nightmare scene. John Semper literally reinvented venom saga. And 90's version, with adjustments of course, has been used in almost every spider man content.
Personally, I've always preferred the metaphor of a toxic relationship portrayed in the original 1980s "Black Suit Saga" - the reason the symbiote bonds to Peter in the original telling is that it loves the way it feels to ride around on his body, and I think there are a couple of explicit times in early comics appearances that Venom actually mentioned that his motivation for the hatred he shows towards Peter is that it _loved him,_ and felt betrayed when that love wasn't returned. It gave him all that extra power - organic webbing, increased strength and agility, changing its shape to form clothes for him so he didn't have to change out of his costume - because it wanted to stay with him as much as possible... it gave Peter so many reasons to never take it off, because it loved him and didn't want to leave him at all, ever. The increased aggression didn't come from the symbiote at first - the reason Peter initially became so short-tempered and aggressive was due to being constantly exhausted, because the symbiote would hijack his body while he slept to go out webslinging at night. It wanted to keep the thrill of using Peter's superhuman body because it enjoyed it, and didn't care about the impact on Peter's life.
The symbiote represented a possessive, self-entitled, narcissistic kind of love, showering Peter with gifts of increased power as long as it was allowed to stay and do what it wanted - Peter, in turn, was the codependent who spent a long time in denial about the damage the relationship was doing to him, only allowing himself to see the benefits of the suit despite everyone he cared about warning him about the effect it was having on him. And when he finally came to accept that the relationship was toxic, he broke away - only for the narcissistic symbiote to find someone else (Eddie Brock) whom it could use to get back at Peter, and take its spiteful revenge against the lover it felt had betrayed it. Venom's first act in the comics (after becoming a separate character rather than being known as just "the symbiote") was to get all "Single White Female" with Mary Jane, kidnapping her and threatening her life because Peter loved her more than he did the suit. Venom carried a burning hatred for Spidey for years - decades, even - because it was denied the continued use of Peter's body, the object of its selfish desire that it felt it had a _right_ to possess, without considering how _Peter_ felt about the situation.
While the substance-abuse subtext used in later adaptations is just as valid, it feels like there are plenty of other "power corrupts" addiction metaphors out there - but toxic relationships with a narcissist aren't really talked about as much in comics (and _especially_ weren't in the pre-GrimDark days of the 1980s). The only one which springs to mind is the Harley Quinn and Joker thing, but that has been twisted-up and misconstrued as romantic over the years to the point that it now almost glorifies those types of relationship more than it condemns them. Admittedly it's partly because I'm an old fogey who's ancient enough to have actually _read_ these comics when they were first released in the UK, so there's probably an element of nostalgia in my opinion, but I stand by the original telling from the origin on Battleworld in "Secret Wars" to the weird night-time possessions to the dark stalker-like obssession Venom had with Peter for years to come.
Gloop from a space-shuttle, my ass - to me, Venom's first appearance was as a black ball from an alien vending machine!
Both metaphors are incredible, but the only flaw i think the "Substance abuse" route has is that Venom becomes just a Spider-Man Villain, instead of being an entire character on their own as an Anti-Hero who HAPPENS to have a grudge with Spider-Man. it wouldn't allow for the Symbiote to change with Eddie as it did in the comics, and it DEFINETLY wouldn't be a good metaphor to go by if they make him like his comic counterpart, because it'd be really weird if they show that the symbiote is an allegory for addiction to Peter and then show Eddie trying to do good using the same substance which, at first, was displayed as a drug. I definetly agree that the original "Toxic relationship" route is the best one because it allows the symbiote to be held accountable for this, as it is a living, sentient being with emotions and it kinda fucked Peter (and Eddie for a while) up, like it's a metaphor for people that used to be toxic, are aware that they fucked up and are trying to change. So it's up to Eddie AND the Symbiote to try and outgrow that hatred and toxic mindset as they try to work together and over time, become more and more like the Lethal Protector they claim they are.
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@@TheDogBasti yes and i loved it
@@fernandopacheco579 exactly on thhe series it wouldn't work but it's beautiful the change Venom and Brock have on the comics and makes me think, if the symbiote was like that from the start he and spidey could still be toguether... but i liike they aren't cause Venom is so cool.
In this show, Spider-man beats Venom by tricking him into saying he's willing to bond with symbiote again, and symbiote ditches Eddie but Peter's strong will (here represents as literal wall of his friends) prevents symbiote from bonding again. This is actually how Spider-man beat Venom first time around in comics.
I really miss when writers forget how exactly smart Peter actually is, he's like top five smartest characters in Marvel comics, yet writers frequently forget about that.
The Black Suit is such an interesting arc for Spidey when done right, described perfectly by Alex, which is why i hope Insomniac nails their Black Suit arc for Peter in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and really depict the consequences of "substance abuse" for Peter and everyone around him
Wait spider man 2 is gonna have the black suit oh wow if they do this right this game is gonna be otherworldly
@@hamoiq908 what spiderman story where venom is present has peter NOT had the suit atleast for a little while?
Insomniac knows how to build a good Parker and spiderman story I got my hopes high for them
@@Don-qc2jn ultimate spiderman had peter wearing the suit for an hour.
@@wudez my point was he always wears it one way or another
One thing that really doesn’t get brought up enough about Spec Spidey is that the supporting cast is the best we have ever gotten in both live action, comics, AND television.
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@@erikgain1294 Couldn't agree more.
Nah I love Spec but the comics have still a better supporting cast
So true! The comics support cast is good, but a lot of them interacted with Spider at different times. Here we have everyone together and it's awesome.
Amen, everyone has something to do
Spectacular Spider-Man is literally what MCU Spider-Man should've been since the beginning.
Yeah, but Disney was too afraid to commit and tackle such mature themes until No Way Home, which I believe Sony had more to do with than Disney.
Definitely
Big facts
@@stupidchoices7242 Unfortunately that’s unlikely to happen due to rights issues. Disney owns the rights to make new Spider-Man cartoons, but Sony holds the rights to make Spectacular. In order to continue the show it would have to be a joint venture between the two, and Disney is unlikely to do that.
Why do you guys always have to bring up MCU Spider-Man?
One of my favourite parts of this arc is that Flash was the one call him out and tell him something is wrong.
Yeah that hit hard
“But he wouldn’t approve” brings tears to my eyes every time. Whole episode does. It’s one of the few favorites of mine that I actively rewatch because I just relate so deeply to that struggle
The superb writing makes it feel real. This series feels as if Spider-Man could exist in real life. A large portion of this is due to the central character of Peter Parker. His interactions with friends and relationships at Midtown High School ground him to a sense of reality.
A character-driven show with a plot stemming from motivations and conflict is good?! No way! I wish they'd copy this concept...!
Actually, they did. Which is how we got Arcane. For Hollywood, its's lightning in a bottle that they're eager to throw away.
God I miss this show.
We all do, man. We all do.
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Same
Same
Same, it hits me so hard randomly
I like the fact that the symbiote suit changes throughout the arc, it almost shows that Peter is truly giving into the symbiote and embracing the rage.
Edit: I’m glad you agreed with me too. I thought I might’ve been the only one who thought that way.
One of the creators revealed this was due to a studio note. They originally wanted to go with the classic comics look for Black Suit Spidey, but the studio wanted it to look similar to the webbed black suit design from Spiderman 3 (brand synergy and all that). They decided to do both, gradually shifting from one to the other to show Peter’s descent into addiction.
@@simage.sockrates548 it’s such a good touch because both versions of the suit are really cool.
JDC.....how could you be the only one when there are millions of us watching? lol
@@lowlowseesee I figured someone else would notice that it just didn’t hit me at the moment
Coming from a recovering addict, this episode hits hard. One of the things that stuck with me after leaving treatment was the notion that the "opposite of addiction is connection." And I love how Peter fights back against the symbiote (an allegory for drug addiction) with the connections he's built, the love of his family and friends. It just speaks to me.
This show deserves far more than just 2 seasons!
Exactly. The sad part was that if Spectacular Spider-Man wasn’t cancelled, it would’ve gotten more seasons & animated movies that would’ve focused on Peter’s college years.
I don't really get why this show is still unfinished considering Sony and Disney have been working together more closely since homecoming, it's probably sonys greed.
@@theawesomebat1244 yep you're right this show was the best but if it wasn't cancelled then we would never got Ultimate Spider-Man
@@justinarzola4584 The least they could do is release a comic series with the scripts of Seasons 3 to 5 and the Peter's college years movies!
When I watched first season,I liked it so much that I thought this must have at least 5 seasons confirmed,but then it got canceled and now I know why
Greg Weisman, Victor Cook, Josh Keaton, the entire cast and crew of this amazing show put together something worth remembering. A Spider-Man story worth telling. They cared about their characters and stories they were telling. No huge creative restrictions outside of not using characters outside of the Spider-Man mythos, no lack of direction, and no small risks. Everything about this show feels thought out and you can tell there is genuine love and passion thrown into every frame of animation, every exchange of dialogue, every line delivery, every music piece, and I say this as someone who has enjoyed all three Spider-Man movie franchises, but this is my favorite Spider-Man thing ever.
We need them back
I have always believed SSM is the single greatest iteration of the character and the lore since the original Lee/Ditko run. Better than the movies, better than Ultimate, better than all the other great runs throughout the decades. If someone asked me to define Spider-Man, I'd politely direct them towards this series.
It just sucks it never finished and we'll never see something like it again.
@Damsen Doesn't matter, still a better characterization IMO. Even with like half the episodes
@Damsen I mean they still never closed off Mary Jane missing. Like they insinuate he’ll find her but we never get to see that closure. And either way Spectacular is still the best Spidey series hands down.
Couldn’t agree more
@@yowatchie there is actually a plan that he did find her in 17th century London and they reunite
The fact that we didn't get a third season of this show is downright insane.
After losing my grandfather a few years ago, I was in such a dark place. To the point where just recently, I’m bettering myself. The Symbiote Spider-Man has always been a character I’ve always been interested in, but could never truly find a definitive reason why. However, that was until I saw Spider-Man lettering, “I’m always here.” This moment, is what broke me to tears. It felt like my grandfather was truly telling me to keep striving to be better. Thank you so much for making this video, and the chance that you do see this comment, thank you for reading!
I really hope Tom Holland's next trilogy will do something like this with their symbiote (it would be really cool to see that kind of psychological thriller in a spiderman film)
Same, specially if this happens in the third film of the new trilogy, which could work as great way to close all six films, with Peter facing the symbiote through all his memories, seen all the experiences he went through all the movies, and in the end overcoming the alien suit, showing how much Peter has grown.
@@alexandrefrauches132 Couldn't agree more 🙂
The thing about this is that the Symbiote only works when it affects both Peter and Spiderman’s lives. Peter has no life right now, so Venom would almost entirely be a plus aside from the more aggressive nature he’ll get. Peter would have no conflict because it only affects Spiderman.
Peter would need to either reintroduce himself to Ned and MJ naturally, or meet new characters and spend time with them over the course of the trilogy for the Symbiote arc to feel deserved. I hope that either he slowly reintroduces himself to Ned and MJ over the course of the trilogy to naturally become friends with them as just Peter, or that he meets Gwen and Harry and the story takes it from there. Hell even a new cast of characters would be cool. But without relationships, the Symbiote isn’t impactful and would be a waste of one of Spiderman’s greatest storylines
@@scalycoronet5198 agree
@@scalycoronet5198 Maybe, but it could also work another way: Playing off Peter's loneliness and maybe fear of connecting with others after everything he lost. Maybe Peter is trying to move on after losing Aunt May and having to give up his life, but he's still somewhat bitter and afraid of getting close to others because he might lose it all again. Enter the symbiote preying on all this and Peter has to fight against it and negative emotions he's feeding it.
When i saw the show for the second time i've noticed that Gwen Stacy's dad, the police officer, guessed that Peter was Spider-man and helped to cover up him while he was absent. So many things in the show they done right.
Spectacular didn't rush into the conclusion where Venom is created, either. It took 3 entire episodes to develop the relationship between Peter and the symbiote. It becomes so easy to relate to its words. It becomes so easy to relate to Peter's situation.
Hard-earned joy versus short-term pleasure.
Spectacular truly was special, it had something for everyone, something for fans of all ages.
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This video basically explains why I’ve always loved this show and even why I’ve always loved Spider-Man. Because he’s just an ordinary guy with some super powers that gives into an addiction as easy as the rest of us would. I love this show because it’s able to tackle adult themes like drug addiction in a way kids understand and have a full story arch about overcoming addiction and how it’s not easy. This show is one of the best iterations of Spider-Man and I will forever love it.
The Spectacular Spider-Man is literally one of the best things to happen to the web-slinger and it's DEFINITELY one of the best Spider-Man adaptations. Even though the 90's animated series is my favorite Spider-Man cartoon, I still have high regards for The Spectacular Spider-Man and I wished it got it's third season.
One thing that I love about this arc is that the first villain he fights while wearing the black suit is Chameleon...who's wearing his red and blue suit. It always felt like to me that it was symbolic of the symbiote coming in and "beating" his red and blue suit, "beating" a reflection of his old self, becoming his main costume and (briefly) destroying who he used to be. The line that he says to Chameleon at the end of the episode where he's "the one and only, got it?" just adds on to all this, like the symbiote was telling the red and blue suit that IT will be the only costume that Peter will use from that point on.
This episode is the one that always stuck with me from this show it’s amazing
Man I remember watching it as a kid. The experience was unforgettable, and to this day I rewatch the show from time to time because it was done beautifully. If only we could somehow bring this show back without ruining it. I'D GIVE EVERYTHING.
This might sound dumb, but the way you explained these concepts was genuinely so captivating that I saw myself in it. My suit is represented by my struggles with constant procrastination, and eventually I end up simply giving up on whatever it was that I had to, or even *wanted* to do. Thanks to you, I'm not gonna let it win, for tonight at least. Appreciate it man, been a long time fan of yours and you never miss a beat with these analysis videos
Keep going!
I know its common for people to say this but Spectacular Spider-Man was the best Spidey show
Well I mean, it IS a fact. It’s as true as the fact that air is what we breathe
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I ADORE this show. I consider this series as the BEST depiction of the character and his mythos. Because it's basically a love letter to Spidey & his world. Also, each episode of the series are bangers.
Alex words cannot express how awesome of a creator you are. You’re passion seeps through every single one of your videos and it’s infectious. One of the only people on this platform who’s videos captivate me from start to finish. Never stop being you and be proud of yourself man.
Dude first batman and then spiderman with this video, the characters that I relate to, the characters I love. I can feel the passion with which you talk about them, I feel the way you heighten the character defining moments these masked heros goes through that truly shapes them. You have a soft spot for trauma I can tell, you understand it, specially understand how trauma drives these characters to br better. I love your work man...thanks for the batman video, its has been like a religious practice for me to come back to the batman video every often and now I'll find myself coming back to this. please keep reminding us why we love these characters so much.
This to me has always been of the most memorable episodes from the show and the way Peter Parker goes with it makes it relatable wanting to give up your self to our demons but shows us that even in a darkest of days there’s Always a way to overcome them and be a greater version of yourself
Perfect timing. I was just writing an essay on No Way Home and got distracted looking for a quote from a Venom trailer, and I see this. I was wondering if you'd ever make a video on Spectacular, and I'm so happy you did. I needed the inspiration, the motivation, especially now where my personal life is on a different low than it's been so far. Thanks Alex.
The best part about your vids is that you can see genuinely how much you care about these stories.
These are characters that genuinely affected your life, you’re not just going through the motions in a film review if you get me.
This show is perfect in every way possible
With any luck, disney gives the right to continue it
We'll just have to see how things play out with Sony and Marvel.
I really want them to continue it but it’s just so insanely unlikely at this point
@@notsocooldude7720 yea sadly
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@@notsocooldude7720 The voice actors may have changed but with voice changers and the technology we have can fix that. But sadly that’s not the case here
I’ve loved Spider-Man all my life and have consumed so much Spider-Man media that I thought I understood all the subtext of the major iconic arcs. But the symbiote story being an allegory for substance abuse never registered with me fully until this video. Spider-Man really is the perfect fictional every man. Fantastic stuff Alex. Hope you’re doing okay.
While its an allegory for substance abuse in this show, in the original comics it was more like a toxic relationship. Really though both metaphors work really well for the concept of the symbiote, at least as it was depicted in the 80s before its mythology was continually expanded on exponentially, until it became its own thing entirely in the wider marvel universe. Not that I mind that because its still really cool now, but my point is that the metaphors work best pre-"lethal protector" era venom and in adaptations taking cues from that early part of the symbiotes history.
This is my favorite version of Venom in any medium. I really wish that the show had a chance to tackle the symbiote's having lied to Eddie by omission and keeping him from realizing that Peter did *not* abandon them in the Connors arc. Would have made a great commentary on toxic relationships
I always loved this episode as a kid. I never found a way to properly explain why I loved this episode so much, and you put it perfectly here HiTop. I still stand by the fact that you really do understand Spider-Man and what makes him great and I wish others thought the way you do
Yeah but big part of the Spider-Man fanbase hates him because he doesn’t dickride the MCU Spider-Man like everyone else
How does this dude get so much out of clips and movies and just break them down on emotional and personal level this dude is so damn smart I would never thought of this when I was a kid and watched spectacular Spider-Man I never knew that what the meaning was of this these episodes thank you for just making that show more enjoyable to watch and I can appreciate that a lot more and all of your comments you make me like me because I don't really never really cuz you just break them down
I actually never realized how the Black suit actually changes overtime, the spidey logo starts becoming larger and more sinister like the comics and the webbing starts to fade less and less to the point where there is no webbing and it's just the symbiote. Such a nice detail to portray how the symbiote consumes Peter.
Thanks for making this Hi-Top. I too was going into a depressive spiral where I kept questioning my self worth and I felt so helpless and alone until my friends intervened and comforted me. Propped me up so I could stand up again. This video really spoke to me.
It's a shame that the Black suit arc was just 3 episodes long, it was amazing seen how the white spider grew with each episode and how the eyes looked more and more like venom.
the amount of glee and euphoria that flooded my body when I saw the thumbnail of you doing a Spectacular Spider-Man study!! My favorite cartoon growing up and my favorite Spidey adaption!!!
This along with Morbius are two great franchises depicting Spider-Man and the villains surrounding him. Despite Morbius being obviously better, but that’s a conversation for another day.
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It's Morbin time!
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Kraven is doomed to fail
@@Zombiesnyder13 as long as he said is signature line, “I’m kraving some bad blood”, the movie will be a box office success
My favorite part about this arc is when Peter/Spider-Man is fighting the Sinister Six and through out the fight the Six is getting the upper hand and then Spider-Man stops his wise cracking jokes and lets the Venom Suit take over and starts beating the Six in ways that are meant to hurt/nearly kill them and slowly you see the suit changing from the Black Suit with his stripes into the famous Black Suit with the huge spider this arc was Insane.
I like all the objects and characters being used as metaphors to reflect or foil Peter. Venom being the most obvious example, but my favorite example is the gene cleanser that reverted the lizard back to Dr Connors. It was also used as a metaphor for suicide, as peter using it to give up, dodge responsibilities, and avoid pain. Then later on Venom uses it as a weapon, almost like a gun, to "end" Spider-Man.
Also the Globulin Green is clearly a metaphor for drugs.
This show is so amazi- Spectacular
Alex's vocal performances in all his videos are just so good.
This one video perfectly explains why I love Spider-Man and Peter Parker he’s the most human superhero
Arguably the greatest animated superhero show of all time. An absolute tragedy it only ran for 26 episodes. I know most people would probably have btas as the number one animated show ever and although I’m a huge dc fan and not much of a marvel fan, this show was probably my favorite. I still can’t believe it was cut short, and I’m still hoping it’ll be revived at some point and continue like the clone wars show was able to (obviously I would want there to be many more seasons made not just one). Although the Spider-Man animated series of the 90’s was good this was better and was nearly flawless. A true shame it didn’t have the same run time as shows like BTAS and STAS.
Thanks for the video man, I love to see you in the feed! Great writing on this video too
one thing about the venom symbiote i find interesting, is that while it was originally an 80's drug psa, it could also be interpreted as a metaphor for a toxic relationship.
hell, you could even interpret it that way in the spectacular cartoon, eddie straight up refers to venom as "the one i love" in one episode. and in the comics, peter strips off his costume and screams "you want me? then take me! im yours!" in his underwear, you can't get more homoerotic than that!
the tom hardy movies are the good ending, happy pride month everyone.
I AM SO HAPPY AND HYPED YOU MADE A VIDEO ON SPECTACULAR SPIDER!
I’ve been waiting for this video forever!! The Symbiote arc is the best and my favorite in everything. Movies, comics, series. And this version is my favorite of all time!! THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!!!!
I like the detail that when spidey saves someone with the symbiote on for the first time (preventing the airplane crush) Eddie is the first name that we hear him thinking, good foreshadowing
It's the single best version of the symbiote suit storyline in any Spider-Man adaptation outside the comics imo. Because it's the one that emphasizes the deeper allegories and themes that come with that arc about battling with inner demons and substance abuse to get away as quick, cheap way to get away from the pain of life the best.
I'm hoping the other best Spider-Man adaptation, Insomniac's Spider-Man, can give us as much of an emotionally poignant interpretation of the symbiote and Venom in Spider-Man 2.
I lost my job in the last week, i had covid before that and before that my partners grandma died. It feels like the hits haven't stopped coming. I was brought to tears by the words "the only way is through", i feel like i can only see a void when i look into the future, but inside that void is the totality of all things. Thankyou for reminding me that we are all strong enough to keep moving forward, even when we fall.
Amazing to see you discuss this show, it’s a real gem in the Legacy of Spidey and I still lament it’s cancellation
You know there has to be something majorly wrong when even your bully starts to worry about you
Masterpiece of a series and still doesn't get enough recognition in the mainstream media. No other Spider-Man show holds a candle to this one. Not TAS, not TNAS, not anything. Also I really appreciated the detail with the black suit's webs slowly disappearing over time as it took over
Wow man I didn’t think this video would hit me so Damn hard. I’ve been in a dark world too much after losing so much again and again it’s like I’m never allowed to be happy it’s always a struggle. I don’t know why that hit me so damn deeply in my feelings like I felt it was so personal, this video honestly made me step back and look at myself. It feels corny but spider man is so inspirational, I know he’s a comic book character but I find inspiration in his never ending will to face his challenges and darkness. that’s something I can’t do so well. “You can’t bring those you lost back” “it’s easy to fuck , to snort, to smoke to drink your problems away” those words hit me so hard at work. this whole video is kind of what I needed at this point, especially the part when Peter faces his worst fears and fight his demons head on even though it’s hard and traumatic he gets up after every hit and doesn’t give up on life. Spider man always was my favourite hero and after the last few years losing family and friends he’s definitely my favourite character ever. I’ve felt like I’m at the end of my rope , like my story doesn’t go much farther than this, all it’s been the last few years was pain, suffering and loneliness & just when I thought I found myself again I lost it. she was the best I ever had , and it was my fault she left, I wasn’t enough just like always and I’ve been just in a rotting state since and meanwhile she is blooming like a flower doing so well. I don’t know what to do anymore, she brought me into the light after so many years seeing the world as cruel and unfair and thinking so pessimistic about everything. it’s pain to see how far I’ve fallen from only 2 months ago, this 10 minute video has made me seriously question myself and my thought’s recently. Death has been on my mind , the thought of taking my life ,but funnily enough a video essay on RUclips causes me to reconsider. Maybe it’s becos I feel empty and the thought of giving it all up seems peaceful even but seeing how Peter Parker doesn’t shy away from his fears and darkness is really really inspiring even if he’s just a character I’ve always wanted to have his admirable qualities. I’m writing this down becos I’m convinced I just might go forward with my thoughts and someone who’s at their end doesn’t have much to lose writing all this stuff. I wrote a whole lot , wow I didn’t expect myself to let so much out in a silly little comment section but here we are, the world is headed somewhere I’m not excited about and I’m all alone again like I was before I met her. And that’s the hardest thing to deal with, sometimes I wish I had Peter’s spider power and his willpower. After going through so much loss again and again it’s hard to keep holding onto life, I’ve tried and tried but god it’s a lonely existence even when I distracted myself with drugs, sex and alcohol i couldn’t heal from the pain it only pushed it down into the depths until it came back up again like wood in the water. I always think about how much harder life will be for my mother and sister and family members and friends across this province that I live in if I did go through with my thoughts, that’s the only thing stopping me from doing so. spider man will always be a character I can relate to on a personal level as nerdy as that sounds seeing him get thrown down and beaten up by the world like me countless times he still gets up, doesn’t ever quit and stands up with a smile, always making jokes in tough situations. my whole life has almost felt like an accident like the universe is punishing me for something I never did, every time I’ve found a glimmer of hope and happiness it’s taken away from me just as fast, while everyone else I know has support , people who want to hear their story but it’s different for me and plenty of other men, we’re supposed to “just deal with it” and our emotions are pushed to the sidelines I can’t even control how I feel about talking about it, I just feel shame and embarrassment most times becos it’s how people make you feel when you show just how fragile you actually are. it’s a cold world out there but people like Peter Parker and some of the people I’ve met make it seem almost like I can conquer my demons too and go out into the world as someone who I am proud of and can deal with things himself. I put too much meaning into words and actions and I know that becos in this day and age men like that are not seen as worthwhile by society, and people , we just have to go to work do the time and go home then restart day in day out. “This is just how it is” they say but I don’t want to live like this I want to be someone who changes things for the better who can adapt to anything. but maybe it’s okay that I feel like dying right now because just maybe I’ll find that light at the end of the tunnel again, but that’s hard to believe after all I just got lucky with her. she kept me grounded in reality and now she’s with someone else already, like we didn’t share memories and personal things. I gave up on love and gave it a second chance for her, I ended up being the one who feel deeply in love, it was her who was really into me at first and I was scared of getting with someone again after all my other relationships ended with me being cheated on but I opened up and started to see the world in colour again. the way this show portrays that dark bleak feeling of being so disconnected with the world you see only two colours is so beautiful just like how I only saw two choices before: death or prolonged suffering. And I think the colour is returning to my world slowly but surely I try each day but it’s incredibly difficult nowadays being an adult and all, my friends live in different places and I don’t talk to most of them anymore because they’re not interested. I always give advice to people like I’m some wise man who knows it all but I don’t, I don’t even know what I want anymore I’m lost in a world of black and white seeing only two sides, life and death. I want to live but this existence feels like too much sometimes, it’s hard to live on like this. I doubt this entire thing will be read by a single soul but I hope someone else can get the same kind of inspiration I did, a bittersweet feeling of knowing you can’t change the past , can’t change our mistakes but that we have the ability to be better than we were yesterday no matter how flawed we may be
I can’t believe Sony F***ed up so bad that it got rid of a perfect show.
Dude... thank you for this video. Sincerely. Thank you. I've been mired by depressive anxiety lately. Sure, I'm scaling the corporate ladder, and I just bought a house with my wife of 9 years, and I'm making music with a new band that's reaching people, but I just turned 30, and with that comes looking back with shame and regret over how I treated people when I was younger. I look back at how many people in my life have passed on, and how I hid the pain with drugs and sex, and that shame has made me isolate. In some instances, regression or suicide were viable options.
Last year, after coming out of my last episode, I got a tattoo in viking runes of the phrase "be better," as a reminder that the past is real, but I am a better man and will always strive to be better. And this video reminded me of that. To anyone who is struggling, don't give up and reach out. Friends and family truly are the cure.
Legend for this Alex. So glad you've now covered this legendary show shit was my childhood
I love also how spider stopping the crash is how the symbiote probably first learned about Eddie Brock
He’s always been my favorite web head outside the comics
powerful and inspiring video Hi-Top, hope you’re doing well
Spectacular spider-man has always been one of my favorite interpretations of the character and this video explains so much of why it's the best. It's so easy to see the love and care the show runners have for the character and it's easy to tell that they understand everything about spider-man. I love this video and how in depth your analysis is of this story in the show. whenever you post it's the highlight of my week honestly thank you HiTop
This show, is one of the founding members that built my childhood. I love this show and always will, still to this day one of the BEST Spider-Man cartoons out there. Really wish we were able to get a good sequel to the show but at least the ending wasn't bad at all and left it at pretty good odds of staying complete or adding a future project to it. The Venom Arcs were my favorite because when Venom showed up, I always felt this sense of dread and fear for Pete, I love the episode where they fight in Peter's school and he damn near gets outted to the public, I love the episode where Venom ambushes Pete at his own home and abducts Gwen, etc etc etc I love every episode😂awesome vid, and thanks for talkin about an OG dope show💯💯💯
Edit: Damn I was young when I saw this show, and I never realized how they snuck in an addiction and intervention theme in the show since I never understood that, that's so cool that they did this in such a cool way.
Honestly the symbiotes not actually wrong about the world constantly taking things from us, it takes our joy, our youth and other things
LIVIN' ON THE EDGE FIGHTIN' CRIME SPINNIN' WEBS
Man, I’ve been subbed for a lonnng time it’s felt like. If I’m correct it’s been since before the ‘Batman does not kill’ video. You’ve been my favourite creator for a long time and waiting for your videos kills but then they always deliver. So thankful for you and I hope you always know that there’s an insane amount of people who feel the same. Keep it up and we love you.
I've loved Spider-Man my entire life and this episode has always been my favorite of the show and hugely inspired me to be a better person. In fact, the entire character of Spider-Man and Peter Parker has inspired me to be a better person, to never give up, to help others in need, and to have hope. This character and particularly this episode of the show has showed me that my loved ones will always be there for me and I can always be there for them. To me the character of Spider-Man is symbol of love, doing the right thing, hope, and that the potential for all of those things is in us all.
The detail of the suit gradually going from an all black Spidey suit to the classic Venom-esque suit is bloody brilliant.
Venom is the craziest villain ever made
When he said "Not Again...NOT AGAIN!!" That hurt more than I can Imagine. It was PAINFUL
They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits of NO WAY HOME
But do you know who else deserves a big thank you?
LAURA ZISKIN
It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy and TASM1 had depth
Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toys
You mean in the credits of No Way Home? I got confused for a second because this video is about the Spectacular Spider-Man.
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to be fair it was probably avi's idea to redesign tom's suit a million times and redesign and "modernize" the villains, you know, so they could sell more toys
I hate that the show got canceled it's the only good animated Spider-Man show since the '90s and the original. Absolutely underrated in its time and luckily become more appreciated
Man this guy's video never fail to give me that dopamine hit
an absolute masterpiece of a series
This guy has the most amazing voice, it feels like he could make very effective lullabys
another awesome video from alex, thank you so much we love your videos a lot!!
We need a version of Spidey where he gets to keep the Symbiote and make it good, but we also get to keep the villains that come with it simply because it all really cool
Spectacular Spider-Man is still the greatest Spider-Man show of all time!
Finally….after years of subscribing to your channel, begging u to talk about spectacular, u did it. U actually did it.
Good stuff alex. This is one of my favorite shows ever and volume 4 was definitely my favorite growing up. I hope production on Jason is going well 👍
That thumbnail is amazing! Also so nice to see love for thi show's black suit arc. As a kid I was mesmerized by how dark & psychological the show got while still retaining the cool aspects. The Uncle Ben part is still in my memory.
So happy to have you back Alex ✊️ and with a spectacular new upload from my fave series starring the web head haha. I resonated very deeply with this episode man due to personal demons I've been fighting. And seeing your dive into the meaning of this episode is just stellar man. All the best and hope you're well ✊️🤘
Darkest episode from this show was when the Wall Crawler kept harrasing me TO RAISE MY BLOOD PRESSURE
Oh, hello Hi-Top
Spectacular Spiderman and the 90s Animated series are the reason I dont have an urge to see Venom in every live action Spiderman adaptation and it's because those 2 shows did it right
Feels so good hearing you talk about a spider-man product you fully love :) dont mean that in a sarcastic way or anything it's genuinely great. Hopefully TAS or TNAS are up next some time
Jumped out of my bed as soon as I saw the notification with spectacular spider man and your channel. This is my favorite animated series and this episode is my favorite episode. Thank you for doing this video and giving me enjoy from nowhere.
1:32 is that a Brasil reference??
What I always loved about this show are thee villains. Seriously setting them up in each episode in detail just made them more fleshed out. Having Sandman and Rhino as lowly crooks 4 episodes before they get powers made their vendettas against Spider-Man very real. And all of them had amazing banter. Seriously maybe the best versions of the Spider-Man rogues
The Spectacular Spider-Man was exactly that, “Spectacular”. Giving nearly each character depth and having storylines build on each other really makes the story of Spectacular Spider-Man feel like one, consistent, real world. With things in one episode focused on one character, have effects on other characters. A story with multiple strands coming together to create a single, beautiful story. Forever one of the best animated superhero shows of all time.
My only problem with it is Peter’s frustrating inability to keep his eyes on a single girl, but I guess that makes sense cause he’s been a loser since forever and is only now getting attention but dammit petey focus on Gwennnn for f’s sakeeeeee.
My second favorite adaptation of the Web-Head (after Insomniac’s Spider-Man), and definitively the best animated one. Alex, awesome vídeo, as always!
I wish they bring this show back for a third and final season.
Watching this after ATSP makes it that much more profound. Great insight, my friend.