I think, to get around the problem of putting down Homelander for good, Peter Parker could potentially study Compound V and come up with a counter-agent to get rid of Homelander’s powers for good.
Leading to Homelander having a complete and utter psychotic breakdown(more so then what was seen in the show) leading to Spidy pulling his fist back before saying “Nighty-Night homie. Hope you enjoy your indefinite stay in prison, along with your new find fame there” knocking him out cold with a single punch. That would be cool for Spider-Man to develop an Anti-Compound V serum that can burn out all of the V in a sups veins.
@@ashtonchane6126 but also lets not forget that spiderman has a very important side to it, as peter parker i dont really see spiderman just knocking homelander, he would very likely do everything he can to support homelander, countless times we see spiderman helping his villains because he also understand that behind a villain is a broken person
@@jesusarmandocontrerasalvar9272 Let's not forget that Homelander is very likely to just laser eye off rip, he does it all the time. So Spider-Man noticing this and then deciding to do the anti compound V thing would be on brand I think
@@jesusarmandocontrerasalvar9272 But that depends on how much Peter would know about Homelander’s history. How he was raised, what he has done, who he has killed. Homelander is broken for sure, but even I think someone like Peter would realized that he’s a lost cause and is beyond repair. Homelander is not Venom, Kaine, Harry, or even Otto. I could very well see a scenario where Homelander would pushed Peter over the edge and forces him to dawn the black suit and puts the fear of god into him(if any of you read Back in Black or Grim Hutt you know what I’m talking about)
Peter would send homelander into a manic state when he realizes he hits like a mortar and moves like lightning, after thinking he was just another web weaver 😭💀
Spiderman will dog walk Homelander. Fr, Homelander is really only is the most powerful and deadly in his universe. Him up against dc and marvel, he’s not necessarily weak but super out of his league
@@augustusmonroe1457It's quite the opposite, homelander is more powerful than spiderman. Just bc his powers are not shown clearly due to poor budget doesn't mean he is weak. He is base superman level
If it's business owner Peter Parker, he's absolutely taking them. Same guy ran through 7 Avengers including Thor, Hulk and Captain Marvel. Absolutely would humiliate the entirety of the "Heroes".
I can imagine Spider-Man being disgusted at seeing where Web Weaver’s uh web’s come from. Also I can see Spidey getting along with the New Black Noir and trying to appeal or uh talk to the original Black Noir and show him sympathy after finding out the stuff Soldier Boy out him through. If Spidey’s friends with another violent deformed super ninja like character like Deadpool than I can see him reasoning with both Black Noirs
@@notbl1tz616 There is literally 50-issue spanning series about Spider-man and Deadpool being best-friends. Spider-man doesn't view Deadpool like that anymore since 2016. He just sees him as a friend that's reliable but a handful.
I imagine Spider-Man’s reaction to Web Weaver’s webs to be about the same as Tom Holland and Andrew Garfield’s Peter Parkers to Tobey McGuire’s Peter Parker’s organic webs in No Way Home.
The biggest thing thst would happen if someone like spiderman entered a world like that of the boys would be that Vought would no longer be able to monopolize the concept of a superhero. Spiderman in particular would be a nightmare for Vought. Peter understands media as he works for a newspaper. He understands super science because he himself is a prolific scientist and he works with some of the best associating with Hank Pym Reed Richards Tony Stark and even those who are his enemies like Norman Osbourne and Otto Octavius. Bigger than that though is Peter actually is a hero. Vought could try to run his reputation into the ground and Peter will not stop doing what he does. If Butcher goes after him Peter would be able to escape. Butcher simply does not have the same kind of feats as people who regularly hunt Peter such as Kraven. Peter would also be able to fight every member of the seven and not just fight them but damage something far more important to them than their bodies. Peter is a quip machine. He could easily wage psychological warfare on all of the secen once he finds out whst makes them tick and nobody is going to stop him. Peter would not only give people a real hero they could respect he would show everybody that Homelander and Vought not only can be mocked but will be with extreme prejudice.
I think Spider-Man would be able to cook up an anti-Compound V serum of some kind and that’s what he would use to fight supes. Ya know, one that wouldn’t give them a virus,
If we're talking 616 (the mainline comics) peter, I think he would start to formulate a plan to take out Homelander as soon as he realized how much of a monster the guy was. People forget that spiderman doesn't actually have a No-kill-rule like batman, he just always attempts to talk things out first. If he saw Homelander go on a killing spree against civilians, then he's definitely not going to pull his punches.
Peter has always had a No kill rule lmao. He wouldn't even kill Carnagel
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@@joshheralal8758he prefers not to kill is the difference, but he murders mainly HUMAN beings that KNOWS better than not to do it. Homelander even though he’s a piece of crap KNOWS BETTER. I mean heck Spider-Man’s killed normal thugs for the same reason, and the only ones who haven’t are the ones after Toby magquires Spider-Man in the movies. You’re kinda wrong on this front.
@@joshheralal8758 that's not exactly true around 2004 to 2006 peter kinda just decided he would kill a villain if they are too much he has tried to kill Carnage and he physically can't because carnage is wayyyy to much for him to handle alone
He still would pull his punches ... as he would not just not punch straight through Homelander. Spiderman is insanely strong. But he might not pull his punches enough to not kill Homelander.
Spider-Man beat a cosmic fire god into the pavement. I'm pretty sure he could take the comparatively less powerful Homelander in a fight, but his no kill rule would cause problems.
It wouldn’t cause problems you don’t need to kill someone in a fight just beat them up enough to get them to stop that usually works and if you seen Spider-Man go all out, you know he’s a lot stronger than it looks
Kinda disappointed that there was no mention of how PETER would do in the Boys universe, specifically outside of the suit. He does still conceal his identity, but who even is Peter Parker once he steps into their universe? Where does he live? How does he manage to secure a meal every day? What’s it like for him to be not just a hero, but also a citizen in this new world? I think that’d be fun to speculate on, awesome video!
Spider-Man HAS killed in the past. He doesn't want to but he will if absolutely necessary, so I doubt he'd spare Homelander once it becomes obvious there is not a single shred of good in it,
True. Because Homelander is not Eddie Brock and the Venom Symbiote, Harry Osborne or even Kaine. What I would think would happen most likely would be is Peter would take and study a sample of Compound-V and its other derivatives. To synthesize a serum that would permanently de powered a sup. Because to me having Homelander being stripped of his power and having his reputation completely ruined is something Peter would most likely do.
Here's an interesting what if. What if one of The Boys became Ghost Rider? Basically treat it as something like murder mystery where Ghost Rider is hunting down The Seven, going through them one by one, but until the reveal, no one actually knows who Ghost Rider is.
@@michaelsarmiento3057 Just imagine Homelander thinking that he's safe cause he's flying in the air, then off in the distance he sees a commercial airliner on fire heading towards him at mach yes with a flaming skeleton piloting it laughing maniacally.
My money is on Spidey. As long as his Reflexes can keep him from being mortally wounded by Homelanders Laser Vision. Plus we’ve seen time and time again that Spider-Man constantly defeats enemies that are stronger than him by utilizing speed and trash talking his way into their head. Homelanders childish tantrum tendencies would make him very vulnerable to Spideys brains.
I feel like Spider-Man would actually join Vought. Not because he trusts them, but to have some sort of revenue while being some sort of sleeper agent against Vought. He does take pictures of himself as a photographer after all. It would be pretty easy lmao
I think it’d be more likely if he joined Vought’s pharmaceutical department as an intern as Peter Parker, same way he worked under Dr. Conner or Dr. Octavius for a while. This would give him direct access to Compound V. :p
Does Vought not require credentials or personal information? If Peter is just dumped surely he has no real means to get into such a prestigious company. If he could get in I have no real reason that he wouldn’t, but with the transparency that comes for working with a company probably doesn’t jive well in most hypotheticals right?
Before I watch this, I’m hoping Homelander gets pissed off that he can’t touch Spider-Man and that his punches actually hurt. As for the less powerful heroes, I hope Spider-Man teaches them to be real heroes instead of just these company mouthpieces
Yea I think they would love each other and look for one another for support. Spider-Man inspires her to be a true hero Starlight inspires him to always keep pushing which is a huge theme of his life
@@AngraMango she did I believe and was very regretful for it. Tho s4 just dropped that entire plot line and emotional aspects of it. But doesn’t change how their relationship would be. How starlight went to frenchie in s4 I see her going up to Spider-Man to talk.
spdier man doesnt need preptime to defeat homelander, spider man goes toe to toe with HULK! you know what that means? Hulk himself respec spider man because Hulk considers spider man strong enough to deserve his respect, but not only strengt, spider man is faster, smarter and in general has more experience, the only dangerous thing homelander has is laser eyes, but is not like spider-man dont fight those types of villages
I could see a few things They try to copy Spiderman, a quippy young neighborhood superhero. Spidey could see butcher as a punisher clone or knock off. Spidey would intervene with a set up saving, not knowing it was for clout and homelander was on Que to save the actors while cameras are rolling. Spidey would save them and homelander would get pissed by it.
canon stats spider man would win, if he was nerfed to be at web weavers stats I can still see him winning or even teaching homelander about responsibility.
Spidey HAS killed many times. Why do people think he won't? He killed Kraven, Venom, and more. Like the WHOLE Spider-verse event was every version KILLING a family of spider-people eaters.
Honestly if the boys took place in the marvel universe vought would end up being just another corporation like Alchemax or A.I.M that anyone like the avengers would need take down on a daily basis
It's not much of an explanation, but it's an explanation; a fist is very large compared to a bullet so the trauma force is spread out and dissipates faster. A bullet is a pin point force multiplier so it doesn't dissipate near as much so the damage is increased. That's why a bullet is more dangerous in real life. Now you might call BS on me, and I get it and understand but sometimes all you need is a bare bones explanation.
Well if a punch from a superhuman is compared to a punch from a normal human, then a bullet would be a knife with the same force as said punch. Or even less force, but a knife will still stab you, while a fist… well I don’t think one punch could do what a single stab can. A well placed punch can give you a concussion, perhaps kill you. A well placed stab wound, with considerably less force put behind it could easily kill you. (Think getting stabbed in the heart)
@chickenmaster0636 Let's also not forget that bullets break the sound barrier. So even with super strength, depending on how much strength a super has, that bullet can still carry more trauma force. Someone like the Hulk or Superman? Of course not. But Wolverine? I would say yes because he relies on his claws, which puts matters differently. The speed really does make a difference here.
Spiderman wouldn’t fuck with the boys. Maybe Hughie and MM and Starlight but that’s it. It’ll take time for him and Frenchie and Kimiko, I mean…Spiderman is on working terms with the punisher in his universe…he would never trust and fuck with Butcher
Hell no bro spidey one shots even ultimate spider-man (tv show) is more powerful than homelander, spidey was able to hurt nightmare in the dream dimension this being a multiverseal plus feat and then he was able to one shot grandmaster and grandmaster is leagues stronger than collector this being another multiverseal plus feat and he was able to lift a portion of Manhattan which is 1252084.67 tons
We’re forgetting that Peter is almost as smart as Stark. Several times throughout the comics, movies and even video games we’ve seen Peter cook up suits and tech to counter his enemies (the Anti-Ock suit in Insomniac’s Spider Man, the shock resistant webbing in TASM2, etc). Peter would 100% find a way to remove the Compound V effects from the supes without having any negative effects. Plus Homelander would go crazy after realizing Peter has reflexes faster than lightning and hits harder than he ever can.
I like to think Spidey would toy with Homelander, even trashtalking him to the point of a breakdown. If he found out how corrupted this universe really was, he would absolutely stop holding back.
@@cm4n63 I didn't mean that, I meant to say it like everyone in the Boys universe should pray for their lives because Logan is going do what he does best and it isn't very nice.
People have pointed it out that Peter could just make a cure for Compound V. Peter is a biochemist and a super genius, some of his best friends include Tony Stark and Reed Richards. And while it's so obvious that Peter would put the Boy's universe to shame, something that's not being mentioned is the Peter Parker aspect of his life. Is the government gonna cover for Peter? Are the Boys gonna keep a room for Peter? I think that it'd be important to focus on the Peter and Hughie relationship, because Peter and Hughie living together would def change Hughie and how he sees his role in the Boys. Peter would also immediately peg Billy as a "Knock-off Irish Frank Castle, black trench coat included" and would distrust him from the jump. Another thing is how Peter gets back, and thats as simple as Reed or Miles figuring that there's Multiverse shenanigans happening. So Miles either hits up Gwen to help get Peter back from the help of the Web Warriors or Reed just makes a portal, thus the Fantastic Four AND Spider-Man start fixing the Boys Universe systematically.
I mean given how strong and durable spiderman actually is when he's not holding back i feel like he would knock homelander out and would likely be very disgusted by the world he now inhabits
With Homelanders vulnerable feelings and emotions he would probably try to hurt Spider-Man through Gwen or Mj which in that case spider man would easily destroy Homelander especially with spider man’s spider sense. This is especially true if spider man has his black suit(venom suit) Homelander has a good chance of beating him if it wasn’t personal but a very little chance if it was. Overall Homelander probably gets beaten.
What if Class 1-A appeared in The Boys Universe just before the Final War breaks out and are part of the events in Gen V? I chose for the class to be taking part in Gen V Season 1 since Vought likely would quickly push them into Godolkin University since people may take issue with putting teenagers on the front lines as heroes. Also, they would want to get the kids under their thumb and what better way than via school since they are supposed to be in school? Not to mention the Woods could be used to study to class. And of course I want the kids to be at their best. So, while everybody is getting ready to defeat All For One and his army of Villains, all the members of Class A all vanish and pop up in the universe of the Boys not long before Gen V begins. Since this is after the events of Seasons 1-3 of the Boys, there’s already more than enough controversy around Supes for the class to quickly realize they are no different than Villains. Of course they also come from a world with a system backing superheroes, so they’ll quickly realize they can’t just do something, especially since Deku has heard from Lady Nagant that the Hero Public Safety Commission used to assassinate people and basically that’s the only morally questionable thing the HPSC dropped when they took in Hawks who is still utilized as a spy and is trained to kill when necessary. Homelander is quickly going to realize that the class are going to be a problem when they explain where they are from and what life is like for Pro Heroes especially after the Paranormal Liberation War. Vought decides to stuff the kids into Godolkin in hopes of stuffing them full of propaganda to turn them or study them in the Woods to destroy them. Shetty and Kate are going to decide to try and take some of the weaker students into the Woods, but they might be smart enough not to keep them out of fear the rest of the class is going to look for them. They could make an excuse that students are simply attending meetings before wiping their memories after studying them. Perhaps Shetty may push back her plans to unleash a virus to kill all Supes in order to modify the virus to target Quirks too. The class is going to clash hard with their older classmates as they realize that they care more about fame and popularity than even a lot of Pro Heroes in their world. Deku and plenty of the others will figure that nearly every Supe would have quit after the Paranormal Liberation War. Now, could the members of Class A stop Golden Boy before he commits suicide? I think Deku, Shoto, and Bakugo could do it especially if they had help from the others. They may be high schoolers, but they also have more experience fighting stronger villains than even Homelander. This would allow the kids to learn about the Woods and eventually expose Shetty for her actions. Would this stop Kate and Sam from carrying out their revenge on humanity? I don’t think so. Even if some of the class was assigned to guard the Woods while the rest expose Shetty to the public, Sam could probably hold off these students long enough for Kate to release enough prisoners. So what happens when Homelander shows up to end the riot and decides this is as good of a chance to finally kill the kids? Beaten. The kids take him down. Unfortunately, Vought labels them as terrorists while Kate and Sam are praised as heroes. Mainstream media could report on the Woods, but Supes and their supporters will just refuse to believe them. Will the kids beat Homelander and Vought in the end? Yeah, but first they are going to be on the run during the rest of the presidential campaign. Fighting Supes is nothing after what they’ve been through, but public opinion would be the real issue. Eventually at some point, Pro Heroes will finally crack whatever transported the kids and find them and help them lock up Homelander and the Supes. It’s not that the class can’t beat Homelander, it’s just that they don’t kill and they have no means of locking them up.
When the showdown comes, people will clearly see that spiderman isn't tryna destroy the city, but homelander would take down the whole state if it means a W. It will wake the people up of this universe how ruthless & careless homelander is. & Peter will use his mind to teach the rest of the 7 how to be strategic with their powers via teamwork. He would be the wake up call for literally everyone, super-powered or not. Homelander would be hopeless against spiderman & spiderman doesn't even have to be in the fight, physically. NOBODY knows how to properly use their powers, accept the blind ninja guy who homelander immediately made a joke from.
Thinking about it now, is spidey a consistent lightning timer? I mean I have seen many versions of him dodge lightning, especially from electro, but I don’t know if he is
Can’t remember who, but someone made the point of “You can tell a character’s strength, by the damage they cause the environment during a fight.” At peak, Homelander levels a room Spidey has accidentally leveled blocks and has acted as a support column for a skyscraper, keep in mind that during fights, he holds back to not kill anyone. Spider-man would destroy Homelander. Hell, the sinister six (any variation) would destroy homelander.
Peter is winning. So is batman if he was in there as well lol/ for those who are saying batman wont win but spiderman willl. u are misunderstanding me. bruce will just make the things he needs for each super powered villain
Batman? I don’t think Batman would win. If we’re following the same story of him using a portal to get into the boys universe, he would have no access to his gadgets, no access to his money, and no idea how to deal with someone like homelander. If he was already from the boys universe, and is already rich, then yeah, he wins.
I genuinely think that like Spider-Man could beat home landers ass mainly because butcher and soldier boy could put the paws on om’ lander and people forget that spider man is a trained fighter he knows how to fight pretty well along with homelander was never shown to punch that fast and I doubt Spider-Man couldn’t dodge his laser eyes also I feel like Spider-Man would very quickly realize oh wait I don’t have to hold back and make some anti v fluid which like either takes away there powers or disables it for a while also Spider-Man’s first webbing only being an inch thick could make the thing a life prisoner and the thing can fight the hulk for a good bit
Spiderman is not doing anything. Homelander was beating SoilderBoy, a literal Nuklear Reactor, until he got jumped by Butcher. And even when they were 2v1'ing Homelander, Homes was holding his own very well, even knocking SoilderBoy out the fight for a good while. Spider-Man could avoid Homelanders' attacks for a while but would eventually get caught by Homelander and won't be able to do anything about it.
@ I don’t think you know how strong spider man is there was a time when spider man Peter Parker version btw fought two not one but two phoenix force infused x men and won and walked out of the crater that they where fighting in spider man is stupidly strong
Since Spidey-Sense is the most broken version of Ultra-Instinct that there ever could be, Homelander would spend the entire time punching at afterimages until Spidey decides to not pull his punch and turns him into pink mist. Edit: yes it is confirmed that Spidey-Sense is completely busted and also that he pulls all of his attacks because he has shown feats of power like breaking Hulk's wrist etc. He once swapped bodies with Doc Oc, who then hit a guy with a weak punch that put his insides on the outside. Otto then had a mental crisis, because he realised that Peter could literally end his enemies at any point if he really wanted to.
This video shows what makes Spider-Man one of the greats when it comes to being a hero. You can plop him down in any universe, and he'll do his best to bring hope to that setting.
If he doesn’t join vaught or some hero company the other supes would most definitely have him as a illegal hero with spidey having a few heroes that sympathize, hate, or even like him but he would definitely have issues with during normal hero work especially when most big crimes are scripted or predicted
Yo bro. Love the idea! The execution of it wasn’t the greatest though. Feels like you’re going off the top of your head and like a hard lined script with some more concise language would help out majorly. If you ever wanna do one of these again i’d love to watch it! Just didn’t really care for the lack of context or the rushed, cobbled together feeling to the storyline when it feels like you could’ve done something a bit better. Wish you well, and if you’d want some free help with writing or anything i’d be down to lend you my ideas. Wish you all the best and hope your content and channel improve
How about this What if Iron Man was in The Boys universe? I think there’s a lot of interesting potential there Tony Stark would stand out in the universe because he has no powers except for his genius and suit Tony could easily recreate Stark Industries and fight Vought where it really matters the stock market additionally Tony knows how to play the media game and would develop contingency plans in case Homelander tries kill him. And it doesn’t even have to end with Iron Man beating Homelander Tony could become the majority shareholder of Vought and reform the hero system for the better.
This would be an interesting story because it would be Peter Parker having to learn the lesson that some people just can't be redeemed. I could see him opposing The Boys for the first two acts before finally realizing that Butcher is right... at least about Homelander.
I’ll never understand why or how people can think Spider-Man can take on Homelander. Bro is very strong and durable. While Spider man would hold his own for a time he would always lose the fight in his base form or even with the symbiot.With the power of Captain Universe he would wipe the whole universe no doubt but base ain’t that strong.
People like you don't understand how strong Spider-Man is. Y'all glaze Homelander when in reality he is building level at best while Spider-Man has fought and been hit by stronger beings. Please do your research.
@@mandalorianhunter1 no, you do your research. Every comic book character has ridiculous stories or feats but you generally have to boil it down to their typical level. Spider-Man is super impressive for a neighbourhood level hero and far stronger and more durable than seems obvious. He can punch a man's jaw off or lift a car with ease, he is usually holding back. But Homelander can wrecking ball a skyscraper by flying through it or cut it in half with his eyes. I'm sure Spider-Man has lifted a mountain or beaten up Thor before but be honest, is that his typical level of power that you see in the comics? As reference, in terms of weapons, nothing short of nuclear weapons can hurt Homelander (he can casually survive point blank explosions or gunfire) and in the comics he casually threw a fighter plane with one had.
@@retsaMinnavoiG Dude that's not how it works, what are you on about? You take into factor, feats, statements, who they fought against. If you are just talking about typical levels, whatever that means, then you are just showing your bias. Now even when Spider-Man first appeared, he took on the Fantastic four which is still noteworthy. Also doesn't Homelander take on foes far weaker than him then anyone stronger like Spidey? Wouldn't that count as typical? Destructive potential doesn't mean someone beats them all the time. If that were true Spider-Man would have lost to Electro a long time ago.
@@mandalorianhunter1 If there was a Comic about Homelander showing up into DC and absolutely decimating every member of the Justice League, even Super-Man, would you take that as Canon and how powerful Homealnder is?
@iamaphantom6905 Hmmmm not really because that's based on the writer Let's think about how Robert Kirkman said that Invincible can beat Superman. We all know that's not going to happen but if it did, would you consider that canon? How about the stories of The Punisher, Deadpool and Wolverine taking out the Marvel Universe. We all know those won't happen but would you consider those feats that should be added to them fighting stronger foes? Would you consider that canon?
I loved the video and it was well done with the editing and story, the only criticism I would give, is you have a habit of saying "like" a lot. You use it when your referring to people" liking" one another but also as a stall word for your thoughts process. You also say um a good bit. I am not trying to insult you, if you do have a prompt you read from, try to at least diversify your stall words, or don't be afraid of having a bit of silence while you get ready to address the next portion of your topics. Awesome video keep it up bro
Here's the powerscaling for it if anyone doupts that Spiderman can beat Homelander. Even MCU Spiderman, which is nearly the weakest version of Spiderman, can beat Homelander. That's who I'll be discussing for this debate, but every version has done a magnitude of crazy feats, especially the comics versions. Spiderman literally held 2 halves of a yacht together in the 2017 Spiderman movie. Now, that isn't as good as Homelander's feats, but it is comparable. Take that with how much spiderman outclasses him in speed, and it basically becomes like Spiderman versus Rhino. Spiderman is probably dead if Homelander/Rhino gets their hands on him, but that'll never happen. For speed, not only does spiderman have the spidey sense that lets his body react to things that not even he is aware of, but he can also move at lightning speeds. We see this in I believe the Andrew Garfeild movies, when he fights that lightning dude. Since MCU Spiderman teams up with him and is shown to be comparable, he should have similar speed. Now the only problem is Homelander's lazer eyes. Since light speed is so much faster than lightning speed, Peter can't actually dodge it. Luckily he doesn't have to. Homelander has to charge the eye beams before they come out. We see this in the show. It is like, half a second of charge up time. His Spidey senses will get him out of the way before they come out. And since Spiderman can move faster than Homelander can turn his neck or his body, Spiderman can definitely dodge the lazers. So in conclusion, even movie Spiderman should beat him. He isn't as strong or durable, but he is comparable enough in strength that he can do some damage, and he outclasses Homelander so much in speed that that strength difference doesn't matter. Now that is all for one of the weakest versions of Spiderman. Almost any version from the comics has better feats. From what I know, the games have comparable or better feats, but I could be wrong because I never played them. And I didn't even get into intelligence, experience, skill, or versatility. All of which Spiderman far outclasses Homelander in. He honestly might struggle more to beat Queen Maeve. Her skill, intuition, and intelligence might give Spiderman a run for his money. Spiderman would probably lose to all the Supes if they teamed up, but after seeing what Spiderman could do, some of them would follow him over Homelander without a doupt in my mind. So uhhh, yeah. MCU Spiderman high diffs Homelander.
Another important detail is Peter's photojournalism + his ability to sneak in places as Spiderman. He would be the perfect person to expose Vaught and all the corrupt superheroes like Homelander. Bonus: If he really wanted to go balls to the wall, he could take compound V and get even more powers.
Spider-Man is instantly the most powerful being in existence if placed in the boys universe. Unless the comics go some cosmic horror place that I don't know about but I doubt that
That's wildly inaccurate. Spider-Man is probably middle tier strength when it comes to The Boys characters. Compound V gives all of its hosts a variable amount of super strength and most of them, Spider-Man probably outclasses in strength. However, the upper limits of super strength granted to people who take Compound V far outclass Spider-Man. Spider-Man is consistently shown to be limited in strength at around 20 tons. Meanwhile, the Boys #65 establishes that the low end weight characters such as Homelander can exceed is over 180 tons. That's 9x more powerful than Spider-Man. In a fight, Homelander's superspeed outclasses Spider-Man's danger sense. Characters like A-Train are even faster than Homelander. Even Queen Maeve is considered to be the second strongest member of the Seven and is capable of holding her own against many other villains. But Homelander wouldn't even need to fight Spider-Man to win. All Homelander has to do is look at him and his heat vision is enough to one shot Spider-Man. Spider-Man can't dodge someone looking at him.
@@pattycake520 funny joke bro you made me laugh a bit where do you learn it from? Hell no bro spidey one shots even ultimate spider-man (tv show) is more powerful than homelander, spidey was able to hurt nightmare in the dream dimension this being a multiverseal plus feat and then he was able to one shot grandmaster and grandmaster is leagues stronger than collector this being another multiverseal plus feat and he was able to lift a portion of Manhattan which is 1252084.67 tons
All comic book characters have done ridiculous things. Using every single feat like it's their typical power set is just boring. The typical Spider-Man is surprisingly strong and durable for a friendly neighbourhood hero but nothing on the level of Homelander (although his agility and manoeuvrability with his spider sense make him damn impressive). I know he holds back and he's many multiple times stronger than somebody like Captain America (easily able to lift a car for example or punch a man's jaw off) but Homelander could wrecking ball a skyscraper, that's just a different league of strength and durability. I'm sure in some stories Spider-Man has carried one million tonnes or beat Thor in a fight but that's just silly and not 'typical' Spiderman.
I'll show you why even MCU Spiderman, which is nearly the weakest version of Spiderman, can beat Homelander. Every version has done a magnitude of crazy feats, not just the comics versions. Spiderman literally held 2 halves of a yacht together in the 2017 Spiderman movie. Now, that isn't as good as Homelander's feats, but it is comparable. Take that with how much spiderman outclasses him in speed, and it basically becomes like Spiderman versus Rhino. Spiderman is probably dead if Homelander/Rhino gets their hands on him, but that'll never happen. For speed, not only does spiderman have the spidey sense that lets his body react to things that not even he is aware of, but he can also move at lightning speeds. We see this in I believe the Andrew Garfeild movies, when he fights that lightning dude. Since 2017 Spiderman teams up with him and is shown to be comparable, he should have similar speed. Now the only problem is Homelander's lazer eyes. Since light speed is so much faster than lightning speed, Peter can't actually dodge it. Luckily he doesn't have to. Homelander has to charge the eye beams before they come out. We see this in the show. It is like, half a second of charge up time. His Spidey senses will get him out of the way before they come out. And since Spiderman can move faster than Homelander can turn his neck or his body, Spiderman can definitely dodge the lazers. So in conclusion, even movie Spiderman should beat him. He isn't as strong or durable, but he is comparable enough in strength that he can do some damage, and he outclasses Homelander so much in speed that that strength difference doesn't matter. Now that is all for one of the weakest versions of Spiderman. Almost any version from the comics has better feats. From what I know, the games have comparable or better feats, but I could be wrong because I never played them. And I didn't even get into intelligence, experience, skill, or versatility. All of which Spiderman far outclasses Homelander in. He honestly might struggle more to beat Queen Maeve. Her skill, intuition, and intelligence might give Spiderman a run for his money. Teaming up, Spiderman would probably lose to all the Supes, but after seeing what Spiderman could do, some of them would follow him over Homelander without a doupt in my mind. So uhhh, yeah. MCU Spiderman high diffs Homelander.
Spider-Man might equiate Butcher to Frank Castle. I could also see him hacking into the big screens in Times Square and posting "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility"
You did a really good job at considering Spider-Man's powers and his smarts and what he fought compared to the boys “superheroes” But there's one thing that I think he would do he would definitely figure out what compound v is and what it does so he would probably make some kind of chemical to take their powers away kind like what he did with the lizard or to at least limit them
The public crapping on Spiderman is just Tuesday for Peter Parker. He can handle so damn much and being brilliant to boot in several years he'd have his own team and make that universe so much better.
Spiderman may have some trouble in the boys universe but Peter Parker would thrive hes so smart he could probably take over vought and make it a good company
@@RandomizationShowI know. I said that he died again because in Miles Morales: The Ultimate Spider-Man, he came back to life and helped Miles fight Norman and then left NYC in his hands while he and MJ ran away together. And then Secret Wars 2015 happened and killed him again for good.
Guys, in a deadpool and spiderman comic spiderman was about to kill the villain after realizing they had no other choices, if it wasnt for deadpool killing the villain before peter could do it, he would have done it
How? How could anyone from the boys compare to Spiderman? MCU Spiderman might not be able to beat Homelander. I think it's a close match. But literally every other version of Spiderman would absolutely beat everyone in The Boys, no question.
@oblivion1924 Homelander kills Spider-Man immediately. Just because you take all of Spider-Mans' most goofy feats and mash them up into one all-powerful Spiderman doesn't mean he wins. His greatest opp is a Man with Four Robot Arms, Give Up.
funny joke bro you made me laugh a bit where do you learn it from? Hell no bro spidey one shots even ultimate spider-man (tv show) is more powerful than homelander, spidey was able to hurt nightmare in the dream dimension this being a multiverseal plus feat and then he was able to one shot grandmaster and grandmaster is leagues stronger than collector this being another multiverseal plus feat and he was able to lift a portion of Manhattan which is 1252084.67 tons
I think, to get around the problem of putting down Homelander for good, Peter Parker could potentially study Compound V and come up with a counter-agent to get rid of Homelander’s powers for good.
Leading to Homelander having a complete and utter psychotic breakdown(more so then what was seen in the show) leading to Spidy pulling his fist back before saying “Nighty-Night homie. Hope you enjoy your indefinite stay in prison, along with your new find fame there” knocking him out cold with a single punch. That would be cool for Spider-Man to develop an Anti-Compound V serum that can burn out all of the V in a sups veins.
thats something totally on brand with spidey
@@ashtonchane6126 but also lets not forget that spiderman has a very important side to it, as peter parker i dont really see spiderman just knocking homelander, he would very likely do everything he can to support homelander, countless times we see spiderman helping his villains because he also understand that behind a villain is a broken person
@@jesusarmandocontrerasalvar9272 Let's not forget that Homelander is very likely to just laser eye off rip, he does it all the time. So Spider-Man noticing this and then deciding to do the anti compound V thing would be on brand I think
@@jesusarmandocontrerasalvar9272 But that depends on how much Peter would know about Homelander’s history. How he was raised, what he has done, who he has killed. Homelander is broken for sure, but even I think someone like Peter would realized that he’s a lost cause and is beyond repair. Homelander is not Venom, Kaine, Harry, or even Otto. I could very well see a scenario where Homelander would pushed Peter over the edge and forces him to dawn the black suit and puts the fear of god into him(if any of you read Back in Black or Grim Hutt you know what I’m talking about)
Peter would send homelander into a manic state when he realizes he hits like a mortar and moves like lightning, after thinking he was just another web weaver 😭💀
Spiderman will dog walk Homelander. Fr, Homelander is really only is the most powerful and deadly in his universe. Him up against dc and marvel, he’s not necessarily weak but super out of his league
Bro, when I heard butcher does not like Spider-Man, I thought to myself if any of them come after Spider-Man, they’re getting sent to Kingdom come
imagine what an angry and depressed Peter would do to this man
@ I can’t even imagine anything that anyone would or can do
@@augustusmonroe1457It's quite the opposite, homelander is more powerful than spiderman.
Just bc his powers are not shown clearly due to poor budget doesn't mean he is weak. He is base superman level
If it's business owner Peter Parker, he's absolutely taking them. Same guy ran through 7 Avengers including Thor, Hulk and Captain Marvel. Absolutely would humiliate the entirety of the "Heroes".
If it’s current Peter Parker he might be In trouble, since he got clapped by Tombstone and was so afraid of the vulture he had to ask Norman for help
@johnfish9063 yeah Old Pete is not doing much poor fella
I don't know Spidey is fighting Citoracks children and he currently has magic. @johnfish9063
@@FerretTwisterOld Pete? You mean the new Ultimate Spider-Man? No, the one that's been nerfed to hell is 616 Pete
@@TheLastSpider-Man Nerfed to hell pete from the sound of the context
In the boys universe the public wouldn’t be calling Spider-Man a menace they would be calling him a Nazi.
Or a socialist
Most likely a socialist, in The Boys universe pretty much everyone is a nazi...@@therainbowraccoon3620
A Communist.
They probably would call him a socialist really v:
"Just LOOK at HIM! He even dresses in red! He's A DIRTY RED SOCIALIST COMMIE!"
Peter Parker: *Flexes his bicep*
The boys universe: *Dies*
Cosmic Spider-Man 100%
(Least I think that was the name of the god one from Spiderverse comics)
@ that’s overtly Overkill lol
@@ClericOfPholtus come on give em like a show or movie one then maybe homelander could tank one hit not two tho
Spider man literally dies from everyone in the boys, since there is no plot armor to protect him and nothing stops them
@ No plot armor?
You do realize Peter is super human and highly intelligent, he effortlessly wipes the floor with all of the boys lmao
Basically if a person who is actually good enters The Boys universe, it falls apart like a house of cards
Spider-Man would easily stomp because his greatest villains aren't there with him. His writers.
I can imagine Spider-Man being disgusted at seeing where Web Weaver’s uh web’s come from. Also I can see Spidey getting along with the New Black Noir and trying to appeal or uh talk to the original Black Noir and show him sympathy after finding out the stuff Soldier Boy out him through.
If Spidey’s friends with another violent deformed super ninja like character like Deadpool than I can see him reasoning with both Black Noirs
@@notbl1tz616depending on the comic they are friends, just don't remember which ones
@@notbl1tz616 There is literally 50-issue spanning series about Spider-man and Deadpool being best-friends. Spider-man doesn't view Deadpool like that anymore since 2016. He just sees him as a friend that's reliable but a handful.
I imagine Spider-Man’s reaction to Web Weaver’s webs to be about the same as Tom Holland and Andrew Garfield’s Peter Parkers to Tobey McGuire’s Peter Parker’s organic webs in No Way Home.
@@notbl1tz616 i don’t know who told you that when it’s been shown multiple times
@@notbl1tz616 there are a few comics that would argue otherwise
The biggest thing thst would happen if someone like spiderman entered a world like that of the boys would be that Vought would no longer be able to monopolize the concept of a superhero.
Spiderman in particular would be a nightmare for Vought. Peter understands media as he works for a newspaper. He understands super science because he himself is a prolific scientist and he works with some of the best associating with Hank Pym Reed Richards Tony Stark and even those who are his enemies like Norman Osbourne and Otto Octavius.
Bigger than that though is Peter actually is a hero. Vought could try to run his reputation into the ground and Peter will not stop doing what he does.
If Butcher goes after him Peter would be able to escape. Butcher simply does not have the same kind of feats as people who regularly hunt Peter such as Kraven.
Peter would also be able to fight every member of the seven and not just fight them but damage something far more important to them than their bodies. Peter is a quip machine. He could easily wage psychological warfare on all of the secen once he finds out whst makes them tick and nobody is going to stop him.
Peter would not only give people a real hero they could respect he would show everybody that Homelander and Vought not only can be mocked but will be with extreme prejudice.
vought would be jj jameson on steroids and i'd love to see it. Peter would enjoy antagonizing Vought LOL
@TowDow3 Vought would both be that and the nepotism baby doĺar store version of Weapon X. Peter would thoroughly enjoy taking them down.
I think Spider-Man would be able to cook up an anti-Compound V serum of some kind and that’s what he would use to fight supes.
Ya know, one that wouldn’t give them a virus,
He cook one up without much time
Like kryptonite, if exposed for long periods of time, it would make them mortal.
If we're talking 616 (the mainline comics) peter, I think he would start to formulate a plan to take out Homelander as soon as he realized how much of a monster the guy was. People forget that spiderman doesn't actually have a No-kill-rule like batman, he just always attempts to talk things out first. If he saw Homelander go on a killing spree against civilians, then he's definitely not going to pull his punches.
Peter has always had a No kill rule lmao. He wouldn't even kill Carnagel
@@joshheralal8758he prefers not to kill is the difference, but he murders mainly HUMAN beings that KNOWS better than not to do it. Homelander even though he’s a piece of crap KNOWS BETTER. I mean heck Spider-Man’s killed normal thugs for the same reason, and the only ones who haven’t are the ones after Toby magquires Spider-Man in the movies. You’re kinda wrong on this front.
True
@@joshheralal8758 that's not exactly true around 2004 to 2006 peter kinda just decided he would kill a villain if they are too much he has tried to kill Carnage and he physically can't because carnage is wayyyy to much for him to handle alone
He still would pull his punches ... as he would not just not punch straight through Homelander. Spiderman is insanely strong. But he might not pull his punches enough to not kill Homelander.
Spider-Man beat a cosmic fire god into the pavement. I'm pretty sure he could take the comparatively less powerful Homelander in a fight, but his no kill rule would cause problems.
It wouldn’t cause problems you don’t need to kill someone in a fight just beat them up enough to get them to stop that usually works and if you seen Spider-Man go all out, you know he’s a lot stronger than it looks
Also, spiderman doesn't have a No-Kill rule, he just likes to talk things out. Killing is his last resort, but it isn't out of the question.
That battle is the crown example of plot-induced stupidity. Great comic, but Firelord would turn him into a smear
@@TheUnseenPathNah homelander is more powerful than spiderman.
Just bc his powers are not shown clearly due to poor budget doesn't mean he is weak.
It's more of a no kill without reason rule which would definitely allow him to kill homelander the moment he saw what he was capable of
Kinda disappointed that there was no mention of how PETER would do in the Boys universe, specifically outside of the suit. He does still conceal his identity, but who even is Peter Parker once he steps into their universe? Where does he live? How does he manage to secure a meal every day? What’s it like for him to be not just a hero, but also a citizen in this new world? I think that’d be fun to speculate on, awesome video!
Spider-Man HAS killed in the past. He doesn't want to but he will if absolutely necessary, so I doubt he'd spare Homelander once it becomes obvious there is not a single shred of good in it,
True. Because Homelander is not Eddie Brock and the Venom Symbiote, Harry Osborne or even Kaine. What I would think would happen most likely would be is Peter would take and study a sample of Compound-V and its other derivatives. To synthesize a serum that would permanently de powered a sup. Because to me having Homelander being stripped of his power and having his reputation completely ruined is something Peter would most likely do.
@@ashtonchane6126this
Here's an interesting what if. What if one of The Boys became Ghost Rider? Basically treat it as something like murder mystery where Ghost Rider is hunting down The Seven, going through them one by one, but until the reveal, no one actually knows who Ghost Rider is.
Hughie would be a good fit
Butcher as Ghost Rider. Hawaiian shirt and crowbar instead of leather jacket and the chain. Homelander would know true fear.
I want to see Ghost Rider using the Penance Stare on Homelander.
@@michaelsarmiento3057 Just imagine Homelander thinking that he's safe cause he's flying in the air, then off in the distance he sees a commercial airliner on fire heading towards him at mach yes with a flaming skeleton piloting it laughing maniacally.
Peter : nah ima do my own thing
Miles nah you didn’t do it right Pete
My money is on Spidey. As long as his Reflexes can keep him from being mortally wounded by Homelanders Laser Vision. Plus we’ve seen time and time again that Spider-Man constantly defeats enemies that are stronger than him by utilizing speed and trash talking his way into their head. Homelanders childish tantrum tendencies would make him very vulnerable to Spideys brains.
I feel like Spider-Man would actually join Vought. Not because he trusts them, but to have some sort of revenue while being some sort of sleeper agent against Vought.
He does take pictures of himself as a photographer after all. It would be pretty easy lmao
I think it’d be more likely if he joined Vought’s pharmaceutical department as an intern as Peter Parker, same way he worked under Dr. Conner or Dr. Octavius for a while. This would give him direct access to Compound V. :p
@@DragonTrainer201then he can secretly develop an anti compound V to use against the supes and doesn’t tell anyone and uses it as spider-man
Does Vought not require credentials or personal information? If Peter is just dumped surely he has no real means to get into such a prestigious company. If he could get in I have no real reason that he wouldn’t, but with the transparency that comes for working with a company probably doesn’t jive well in most hypotheticals right?
@ this is assuming that Peter fully lived in the world of the Boys like spider bite and everything
@ fair
Before I watch this, I’m hoping Homelander gets pissed off that he can’t touch Spider-Man and that his punches actually hurt. As for the less powerful heroes, I hope Spider-Man teaches them to be real heroes instead of just these company mouthpieces
I think Spiderman would respect Starlight
Yea I think they would love each other and look for one another for support.
Spider-Man inspires her to be a true hero
Starlight inspires him to always keep pushing which is a huge theme of his life
Might end up smashing tbh@@Pero-zl4jp
Didn't she kill someone for their car?
@@AngraMango she did I believe and was very regretful for it. Tho s4 just dropped that entire plot line and emotional aspects of it. But doesn’t change how their relationship would be. How starlight went to frenchie in s4 I see her going up to Spider-Man to talk.
...The only thing you got wrong is "Spiderman returns to the woman he loves"...
Fun fact radiation kills compound V…
So spidy might have a cure for it in like a few day to weeks because it's that simple?
If Spider-Man was given prep time and didn't hesitate to kill Homelander, than he wins.
He doesn’t even need prep time he outscales the whole verse while holding back
@@hecker9391ditto
spdier man doesnt need preptime to defeat homelander, spider man goes toe to toe with HULK! you know what that means? Hulk himself respec spider man because Hulk considers spider man strong enough to deserve his respect, but not only strengt, spider man is faster, smarter and in general has more experience, the only dangerous thing homelander has is laser eyes, but is not like spider-man dont fight those types of villages
Spidey don't even need prep time. He solos Homelander in like 10 seconds if he wanted to
Homelander would squish the spider…. Gtfo.
I could see a few things
They try to copy Spiderman, a quippy young neighborhood superhero.
Spidey could see butcher as a punisher clone or knock off.
Spidey would intervene with a set up saving, not knowing it was for clout and homelander was on Que to save the actors while cameras are rolling. Spidey would save them and homelander would get pissed by it.
Everyone's thinking about this too hard. All Spidey need to do is OPEN HIS MOUTH and he'll send Homelander into shock. One taunt. That's all he needs.
canon stats spider man would win, if he was nerfed to be at web weavers stats I can still see him winning or even teaching homelander about responsibility.
Spider-Man absolutely dumpsters the seven. Not even close
Fr fax and this is coming from someone who glazes homelander
Spidey HAS killed many times. Why do people think he won't? He killed Kraven, Venom, and more. Like the WHOLE Spider-verse event was every version KILLING a family of spider-people eaters.
Spidey likes to avoid killing when possible
@@Mammothsaber-4457 Didn't deny that, but he said Spidey has a "no kill" rule like Bats, which isn't true.
Honestly if the boys took place in the marvel universe vought would end up being just another corporation like Alchemax or A.I.M that anyone like the avengers would need take down on a daily basis
I never understood how spiderman can take hits from superhumans yet a bullet can penetrate his his skin.
It's not much of an explanation, but it's an explanation; a fist is very large compared to a bullet so the trauma force is spread out and dissipates faster. A bullet is a pin point force multiplier so it doesn't dissipate near as much so the damage is increased. That's why a bullet is more dangerous in real life. Now you might call BS on me, and I get it and understand but sometimes all you need is a bare bones explanation.
Well if a punch from a superhuman is compared to a punch from a normal human, then a bullet would be a knife with the same force as said punch.
Or even less force, but a knife will still stab you, while a fist… well I don’t think one punch could do what a single stab can.
A well placed punch can give you a concussion, perhaps kill you.
A well placed stab wound, with considerably less force put behind it could easily kill you. (Think getting stabbed in the heart)
@chickenmaster0636 Let's also not forget that bullets break the sound barrier. So even with super strength, depending on how much strength a super has, that bullet can still carry more trauma force. Someone like the Hulk or Superman? Of course not. But Wolverine? I would say yes because he relies on his claws, which puts matters differently. The speed really does make a difference here.
Because he doesn’t have durability to that level
ill give yall an even more simple explanation: plot convenience
Spiderman wouldn’t fuck with the boys. Maybe Hughie and MM and Starlight but that’s it. It’ll take time for him and Frenchie and Kimiko, I mean…Spiderman is on working terms with the punisher in his universe…he would never trust and fuck with Butcher
Hell no bro spidey one shots even ultimate spider-man (tv show) is more powerful than homelander, spidey was able to hurt nightmare in the dream dimension this being a multiverseal plus feat and then he was able to one shot grandmaster and grandmaster is leagues stronger than collector this being another multiverseal plus feat and he was able to lift a portion of Manhattan which is 1252084.67 tons
We’re forgetting that Peter is almost as smart as Stark. Several times throughout the comics, movies and even video games we’ve seen Peter cook up suits and tech to counter his enemies (the Anti-Ock suit in Insomniac’s Spider Man, the shock resistant webbing in TASM2, etc).
Peter would 100% find a way to remove the Compound V effects from the supes without having any negative effects. Plus Homelander would go crazy after realizing Peter has reflexes faster than lightning and hits harder than he ever can.
I like to think Spidey would toy with Homelander, even trashtalking him to the point of a breakdown.
If he found out how corrupted this universe really was, he would absolutely stop holding back.
I think even in the boys world, Spiderman still gets a J. Joanna Jameson, a different name but does the same thing.
Canon-event…
3:26 that bad feeling is called spider-sense
What if Wolverine was in the Boys Universe
Pray for everyone.
@@windghost2more like pray for everyone
you're saying wolverine would be a homelander victim
There a fanfiction of that. Hasn’t been updated in a while.
@@cm4n63 I didn't mean that, I meant to say it like everyone in the Boys universe should pray for their lives because Logan is going do what he does best and it isn't very nice.
Logan takes it
Low diff
People have pointed it out that Peter could just make a cure for Compound V. Peter is a biochemist and a super genius, some of his best friends include Tony Stark and Reed Richards. And while it's so obvious that Peter would put the Boy's universe to shame, something that's not being mentioned is the Peter Parker aspect of his life. Is the government gonna cover for Peter? Are the Boys gonna keep a room for Peter? I think that it'd be important to focus on the Peter and Hughie relationship, because Peter and Hughie living together would def change Hughie and how he sees his role in the Boys. Peter would also immediately peg Billy as a "Knock-off Irish Frank Castle, black trench coat included" and would distrust him from the jump. Another thing is how Peter gets back, and thats as simple as Reed or Miles figuring that there's Multiverse shenanigans happening. So Miles either hits up Gwen to help get Peter back from the help of the Web Warriors or Reed just makes a portal, thus the Fantastic Four AND Spider-Man start fixing the Boys Universe systematically.
Poor Hughie, another victim to the Spider-Rizz
The biggest thing Peter would have going for him is his genius.
I mean given how strong and durable spiderman actually is when he's not holding back i feel like he would knock homelander out and would likely be very disgusted by the world he now inhabits
With Homelanders vulnerable feelings and emotions he would probably try to hurt Spider-Man through Gwen or Mj which in that case spider man would easily destroy Homelander especially with spider man’s spider sense. This is especially true if spider man has his black suit(venom suit) Homelander has a good chance of beating him if it wasn’t personal but a very little chance if it was. Overall Homelander probably gets beaten.
now hear me out, what if the justice league were in the boys universe?
What if Class 1-A appeared in The Boys Universe just before the Final War breaks out and are part of the events in Gen V?
I chose for the class to be taking part in Gen V Season 1 since Vought likely would quickly push them into Godolkin University since people may take issue with putting teenagers on the front lines as heroes. Also, they would want to get the kids under their thumb and what better way than via school since they are supposed to be in school? Not to mention the Woods could be used to study to class. And of course I want the kids to be at their best.
So, while everybody is getting ready to defeat All For One and his army of Villains, all the members of Class A all vanish and pop up in the universe of the Boys not long before Gen V begins. Since this is after the events of Seasons 1-3 of the Boys, there’s already more than enough controversy around Supes for the class to quickly realize they are no different than Villains. Of course they also come from a world with a system backing superheroes, so they’ll quickly realize they can’t just do something, especially since Deku has heard from Lady Nagant that the Hero Public Safety Commission used to assassinate people and basically that’s the only morally questionable thing the HPSC dropped when they took in Hawks who is still utilized as a spy and is trained to kill when necessary.
Homelander is quickly going to realize that the class are going to be a problem when they explain where they are from and what life is like for Pro Heroes especially after the Paranormal Liberation War. Vought decides to stuff the kids into Godolkin in hopes of stuffing them full of propaganda to turn them or study them in the Woods to destroy them. Shetty and Kate are going to decide to try and take some of the weaker students into the Woods, but they might be smart enough not to keep them out of fear the rest of the class is going to look for them. They could make an excuse that students are simply attending meetings before wiping their memories after studying them. Perhaps Shetty may push back her plans to unleash a virus to kill all Supes in order to modify the virus to target Quirks too.
The class is going to clash hard with their older classmates as they realize that they care more about fame and popularity than even a lot of Pro Heroes in their world. Deku and plenty of the others will figure that nearly every Supe would have quit after the Paranormal Liberation War. Now, could the members of Class A stop Golden Boy before he commits suicide? I think Deku, Shoto, and Bakugo could do it especially if they had help from the others. They may be high schoolers, but they also have more experience fighting stronger villains than even Homelander. This would allow the kids to learn about the Woods and eventually expose Shetty for her actions. Would this stop Kate and Sam from carrying out their revenge on humanity? I don’t think so. Even if some of the class was assigned to guard the Woods while the rest expose Shetty to the public, Sam could probably hold off these students long enough for Kate to release enough prisoners. So what happens when Homelander shows up to end the riot and decides this is as good of a chance to finally kill the kids? Beaten. The kids take him down. Unfortunately, Vought labels them as terrorists while Kate and Sam are praised as heroes. Mainstream media could report on the Woods, but Supes and their supporters will just refuse to believe them.
Will the kids beat Homelander and Vought in the end? Yeah, but first they are going to be on the run during the rest of the presidential campaign. Fighting Supes is nothing after what they’ve been through, but public opinion would be the real issue. Eventually at some point, Pro Heroes will finally crack whatever transported the kids and find them and help them lock up Homelander and the Supes. It’s not that the class can’t beat Homelander, it’s just that they don’t kill and they have no means of locking them up.
What If The Hulk Was In The Boys Universe
what universe lol it'd be ashes
When the showdown comes, people will clearly see that spiderman isn't tryna destroy the city, but homelander would take down the whole state if it means a W. It will wake the people up of this universe how ruthless & careless homelander is. & Peter will use his mind to teach the rest of the 7 how to be strategic with their powers via teamwork. He would be the wake up call for literally everyone, super-powered or not. Homelander would be hopeless against spiderman & spiderman doesn't even have to be in the fight, physically. NOBODY knows how to properly use their powers, accept the blind ninja guy who homelander immediately made a joke from.
Thinking about it now, is spidey a consistent lightning timer? I mean I have seen many versions of him dodge lightning, especially from electro, but I don’t know if he is
I mean one of his main villains is electro, and he consistently beats him so he can atleast beat up people who are lightning timers
Can’t remember who, but someone made the point of “You can tell a character’s strength, by the damage they cause the environment during a fight.”
At peak, Homelander levels a room
Spidey has accidentally leveled blocks and has acted as a support column for a skyscraper, keep in mind that during fights, he holds back to not kill anyone. Spider-man would destroy Homelander. Hell, the sinister six (any variation) would destroy homelander.
Peter is winning. So is batman if he was in there as well lol/ for those who are saying batman wont win but spiderman willl. u are misunderstanding me. bruce will just make the things he needs for each super powered villain
Fr the boys universe are weak I wouldn't be surprised if daredevil was able to kill them
Batman? I don’t think Batman would win. If we’re following the same story of him using a portal to get into the boys universe, he would have no access to his gadgets, no access to his money, and no idea how to deal with someone like homelander. If he was already from the boys universe, and is already rich, then yeah, he wins.
I genuinely think that like Spider-Man could beat home landers ass mainly because butcher and soldier boy could put the paws on om’ lander and people forget that spider man is a trained fighter he knows how to fight pretty well along with homelander was never shown to punch that fast and I doubt Spider-Man couldn’t dodge his laser eyes also I feel like Spider-Man would very quickly realize oh wait I don’t have to hold back and make some anti v fluid which like either takes away there powers or disables it for a while also Spider-Man’s first webbing only being an inch thick could make the thing a life prisoner and the thing can fight the hulk for a good bit
oh no homelander is screwed lol
Spiderman is not doing anything. Homelander was beating SoilderBoy, a literal Nuklear Reactor, until he got jumped by Butcher.
And even when they were 2v1'ing Homelander, Homes was holding his own very well, even knocking SoilderBoy out the fight for a good while.
Spider-Man could avoid Homelanders' attacks for a while but would eventually get caught by Homelander and won't be able to do anything about it.
@ I don’t think you know how strong spider man is there was a time when spider man Peter Parker version btw fought two not one but two phoenix force infused x men and won and walked out of the crater that they where fighting in spider man is stupidly strong
@MadladYT549
The hell is a "Sonic Force Infused X Men"? I hope that's the name you gave it and not the official..
Since Spidey-Sense is the most broken version of Ultra-Instinct that there ever could be, Homelander would spend the entire time punching at afterimages until Spidey decides to not pull his punch and turns him into pink mist.
Edit: yes it is confirmed that Spidey-Sense is completely busted and also that he pulls all of his attacks because he has shown feats of power like breaking Hulk's wrist etc.
He once swapped bodies with Doc Oc, who then hit a guy with a weak punch that put his insides on the outside.
Otto then had a mental crisis, because he realised that Peter could literally end his enemies at any point if he really wanted to.
This video shows what makes Spider-Man one of the greats when it comes to being a hero. You can plop him down in any universe, and he'll do his best to bring hope to that setting.
cool vid! i think in the future having a full script and adding more visuals besides movie/show clips would help make it even better
A pissed off spider-man (don't forget the dash) would be able to kill Homelander immediately
“I thought you were stronger” kinda moment
Need a what if ghost rider was in the boys verse
Spider-Man would be the symbol of Baptism for the world of Vought.
If he doesn’t join vaught or some hero company the other supes would most definitely have him as a illegal hero with spidey having a few heroes that sympathize, hate, or even like him but he would definitely have issues with during normal hero work especially when most big crimes are scripted or predicted
I bet Spider-Man and starlight would get along
cool video and all. But the last 10 seconds or so have 2 different audio tracks running simultaneously of you doing the outro.
I saw that too 😂
Yo bro. Love the idea! The execution of it wasn’t the greatest though. Feels like you’re going off the top of your head and like a hard lined script with some more concise language would help out majorly. If you ever wanna do one of these again i’d love to watch it! Just didn’t really care for the lack of context or the rushed, cobbled together feeling to the storyline when it feels like you could’ve done something a bit better. Wish you well, and if you’d want some free help with writing or anything i’d be down to lend you my ideas. Wish you all the best and hope your content and channel improve
Butcher is basically just Punisher
How about this What if Iron Man was in The Boys universe?
I think there’s a lot of interesting potential there Tony Stark would stand out in the universe because he has no powers except for his genius and suit Tony could easily recreate Stark Industries and fight Vought where it really matters the stock market additionally Tony knows how to play the media game and would develop contingency plans in case Homelander tries kill him.
And it doesn’t even have to end with Iron Man beating Homelander Tony could become the majority shareholder of Vought and reform the hero system for the better.
Now we could do a sequel what if oscorp and the Green Goblin was in the boys
This would be an interesting story because it would be Peter Parker having to learn the lesson that some people just can't be redeemed. I could see him opposing The Boys for the first two acts before finally realizing that Butcher is right... at least about Homelander.
Characters going to the boys universe is my favorite genre of videos right now.
I’ll never understand why or how people can think Spider-Man can take on Homelander. Bro is very strong and durable. While Spider man would hold his own for a time he would always lose the fight in his base form or even with the symbiot.With the power of Captain Universe he would wipe the whole universe no doubt but base ain’t that strong.
People like you don't understand how strong Spider-Man is.
Y'all glaze Homelander when in reality he is building level at best while Spider-Man has fought and been hit by stronger beings.
Please do your research.
@@mandalorianhunter1 no, you do your research.
Every comic book character has ridiculous stories or feats but you generally have to boil it down to their typical level.
Spider-Man is super impressive for a neighbourhood level hero and far stronger and more durable than seems obvious.
He can punch a man's jaw off or lift a car with ease, he is usually holding back.
But Homelander can wrecking ball a skyscraper by flying through it or cut it in half with his eyes.
I'm sure Spider-Man has lifted a mountain or beaten up Thor before but be honest, is that his typical level of power that you see in the comics?
As reference, in terms of weapons, nothing short of nuclear weapons can hurt Homelander (he can casually survive point blank explosions or gunfire) and in the comics he casually threw a fighter plane with one had.
@@retsaMinnavoiG Dude that's not how it works, what are you on about?
You take into factor, feats, statements, who they fought against.
If you are just talking about typical levels, whatever that means, then you are just showing your bias.
Now even when Spider-Man first appeared, he took on the Fantastic four which is still noteworthy.
Also doesn't Homelander take on foes far weaker than him then anyone stronger like Spidey? Wouldn't that count as typical?
Destructive potential doesn't mean someone beats them all the time. If that were true Spider-Man would have lost to Electro a long time ago.
@@mandalorianhunter1
If there was a Comic about Homelander showing up into DC and absolutely decimating every member of the Justice League, even Super-Man, would you take that as Canon and how powerful Homealnder is?
@iamaphantom6905 Hmmmm not really because that's based on the writer
Let's think about how Robert Kirkman said that Invincible can beat Superman. We all know that's not going to happen but if it did, would you consider that canon?
How about the stories of The Punisher, Deadpool and Wolverine taking out the Marvel Universe. We all know those won't happen but would you consider those feats that should be added to them fighting stronger foes? Would you consider that canon?
I wish there is a genuiuinely good counterpart of Lex Luthor existing in The Boys Universe.
I loved the video and it was well done with the editing and story, the only criticism I would give, is you have a habit of saying "like" a lot. You use it when your referring to people" liking" one another but also as a stall word for your thoughts process. You also say um a good bit. I am not trying to insult you, if you do have a prompt you read from, try to at least diversify your stall words, or don't be afraid of having a bit of silence while you get ready to address the next portion of your topics.
Awesome video keep it up bro
He'd solo easily
Here's the powerscaling for it if anyone doupts that Spiderman can beat Homelander.
Even MCU Spiderman, which is nearly the weakest version of Spiderman, can beat Homelander. That's who I'll be discussing for this debate, but every version has done a magnitude of crazy feats, especially the comics versions.
Spiderman literally held 2 halves of a yacht together in the 2017 Spiderman movie. Now, that isn't as good as Homelander's feats, but it is comparable. Take that with how much spiderman outclasses him in speed, and it basically becomes like Spiderman versus Rhino. Spiderman is probably dead if Homelander/Rhino gets their hands on him, but that'll never happen.
For speed, not only does spiderman have the spidey sense that lets his body react to things that not even he is aware of, but he can also move at lightning speeds. We see this in I believe the Andrew Garfeild movies, when he fights that lightning dude. Since MCU Spiderman teams up with him and is shown to be comparable, he should have similar speed.
Now the only problem is Homelander's lazer eyes. Since light speed is so much faster than lightning speed, Peter can't actually dodge it. Luckily he doesn't have to. Homelander has to charge the eye beams before they come out. We see this in the show. It is like, half a second of charge up time. His Spidey senses will get him out of the way before they come out. And since Spiderman can move faster than Homelander can turn his neck or his body, Spiderman can definitely dodge the lazers.
So in conclusion, even movie Spiderman should beat him. He isn't as strong or durable, but he is comparable enough in strength that he can do some damage, and he outclasses Homelander so much in speed that that strength difference doesn't matter.
Now that is all for one of the weakest versions of Spiderman. Almost any version from the comics has better feats. From what I know, the games have comparable or better feats, but I could be wrong because I never played them.
And I didn't even get into intelligence, experience, skill, or versatility. All of which Spiderman far outclasses Homelander in. He honestly might struggle more to beat Queen Maeve. Her skill, intuition, and intelligence might give Spiderman a run for his money. Spiderman would probably lose to all the Supes if they teamed up, but after seeing what Spiderman could do, some of them would follow him over Homelander without a doupt in my mind.
So uhhh, yeah. MCU Spiderman high diffs Homelander.
Cut the cope, Homelander especially beats MCU Spider-Man easily.
@@iamaphantom6905 I explained why Spiderman would win. Could you explain otherwise? Or are you just going to come up with absolutely nothing?
@oblivion1924
If Spiderman can't take a bullet he's not taking a Laser.
@@oblivion1924
Wasn't there a MatPat video proving that Garfields Electro attacks didn't go over 25 mph
Nvm, couldnt find it
Another important detail is Peter's photojournalism + his ability to sneak in places as Spiderman. He would be the perfect person to expose Vaught and all the corrupt superheroes like Homelander.
Bonus: If he really wanted to go balls to the wall, he could take compound V and get even more powers.
Can you please do the same type of video but with the hulk. Want to know how absolutely screwed homelander would be
What about What If Wolverine was in the boys
What if vision was in the boys verse
Peter is cooking john its not even fair
Spiderman really going through the ringer rn, he does NOT need to know what’s goin on in the boys universe, my man’s seen enough 😤
If Spider-Man has his status as a totem, I believe that he’d basically be destined to either win or survive that verse.
Homelander has no real fighting prowess Spider-Man would dance around him and knock his ass out before he’d be lasered
Spider-Man is instantly the most powerful being in existence if placed in the boys universe. Unless the comics go some cosmic horror place that I don't know about but I doubt that
Are you saying spidey wins?
And easily
@@WhossThattGuyy easily lmao
That's wildly inaccurate. Spider-Man is probably middle tier strength when it comes to The Boys characters. Compound V gives all of its hosts a variable amount of super strength and most of them, Spider-Man probably outclasses in strength. However, the upper limits of super strength granted to people who take Compound V far outclass Spider-Man. Spider-Man is consistently shown to be limited in strength at around 20 tons. Meanwhile, the Boys #65 establishes that the low end weight characters such as Homelander can exceed is over 180 tons. That's 9x more powerful than Spider-Man.
In a fight, Homelander's superspeed outclasses Spider-Man's danger sense. Characters like A-Train are even faster than Homelander. Even Queen Maeve is considered to be the second strongest member of the Seven and is capable of holding her own against many other villains. But Homelander wouldn't even need to fight Spider-Man to win. All Homelander has to do is look at him and his heat vision is enough to one shot Spider-Man. Spider-Man can't dodge someone looking at him.
@@pattycake520
funny joke bro you made me laugh a bit where do you learn it from? Hell no bro spidey one shots even ultimate spider-man (tv show) is more powerful than homelander, spidey was able to hurt nightmare in the dream dimension this being a multiverseal plus feat and then he was able to one shot grandmaster and grandmaster is leagues stronger than collector this being another multiverseal plus feat and he was able to lift a portion of Manhattan which is 1252084.67 tons
Spider-Man claps "The Boys" they would be fools to chase him and make an enemy out of him, Spider-Man will win his way period.
All comic book characters have done ridiculous things.
Using every single feat like it's their typical power set is just boring.
The typical Spider-Man is surprisingly strong and durable for a friendly neighbourhood hero but nothing on the level of Homelander (although his agility and manoeuvrability with his spider sense make him damn impressive).
I know he holds back and he's many multiple times stronger than somebody like Captain America (easily able to lift a car for example or punch a man's jaw off) but Homelander could wrecking ball a skyscraper, that's just a different league of strength and durability.
I'm sure in some stories Spider-Man has carried one million tonnes or beat Thor in a fight but that's just silly and not 'typical' Spiderman.
I'll show you why even MCU Spiderman, which is nearly the weakest version of Spiderman, can beat Homelander.
Every version has done a magnitude of crazy feats, not just the comics versions.
Spiderman literally held 2 halves of a yacht together in the 2017 Spiderman movie. Now, that isn't as good as Homelander's feats, but it is comparable. Take that with how much spiderman outclasses him in speed, and it basically becomes like Spiderman versus Rhino. Spiderman is probably dead if Homelander/Rhino gets their hands on him, but that'll never happen.
For speed, not only does spiderman have the spidey sense that lets his body react to things that not even he is aware of, but he can also move at lightning speeds. We see this in I believe the Andrew Garfeild movies, when he fights that lightning dude. Since 2017 Spiderman teams up with him and is shown to be comparable, he should have similar speed.
Now the only problem is Homelander's lazer eyes. Since light speed is so much faster than lightning speed, Peter can't actually dodge it. Luckily he doesn't have to. Homelander has to charge the eye beams before they come out. We see this in the show. It is like, half a second of charge up time. His Spidey senses will get him out of the way before they come out. And since Spiderman can move faster than Homelander can turn his neck or his body, Spiderman can definitely dodge the lazers.
So in conclusion, even movie Spiderman should beat him. He isn't as strong or durable, but he is comparable enough in strength that he can do some damage, and he outclasses Homelander so much in speed that that strength difference doesn't matter.
Now that is all for one of the weakest versions of Spiderman. Almost any version from the comics has better feats. From what I know, the games have comparable or better feats, but I could be wrong because I never played them.
And I didn't even get into intelligence, experience, skill, or versatility. All of which Spiderman far outclasses Homelander in. He honestly might struggle more to beat Queen Maeve. Her skill, intuition, and intelligence might give Spiderman a run for his money. Teaming up, Spiderman would probably lose to all the Supes, but after seeing what Spiderman could do, some of them would follow him over Homelander without a doupt in my mind.
So uhhh, yeah. MCU Spiderman high diffs Homelander.
@oblivion1924
You just prove his point man..
Like that one scene from Invincible
"I thought you were stronger"
Spider-Man might equiate Butcher to Frank Castle. I could also see him hacking into the big screens in Times Square and posting "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility"
Homelander faster stronger bullet proof
Spiderman is cooked
MCU Spiderman sure.
Literally any other kind of Spiderman? Absolutely not.
I'd still have a few other heros from the MU or some Supes that see him as a mentor to join him so Spidey dosen't get too overwelmed.
You did a really good job at considering Spider-Man's powers and his smarts and what he fought compared to the boys “superheroes” But there's one thing that I think he would do he would definitely figure out what compound v is and what it does so he would probably make some kind of chemical to take their powers away kind like what he did with the lizard or to at least limit them
They had a spider-man in last season of "the boys"...he shot webbing out of his ass
honestly I would love to see this. like a non canon cross over special
The public crapping on Spiderman is just Tuesday for Peter Parker. He can handle so damn much and being brilliant to boot in several years he'd have his own team and make that universe so much better.
This qas truly great, bruh 🎉❤
Edit; *was
Spiderman may have some trouble in the boys universe but Peter Parker would thrive hes so smart he could probably take over vought and make it a good company
Bro survived the Ultimate Universe, the Boys aint shit 😂
Don't you mean Miles? Because Ultimate Peter Parker died again in Secret Wars 2015.
@@windghost2 peter parker survived it. Until he died 💀
@@RandomizationShowI know.
I said that he died again because in Miles Morales: The Ultimate Spider-Man, he came back to life and helped Miles fight Norman and then left NYC in his hands while he and MJ ran away together. And then Secret Wars 2015 happened and killed him again for good.
@@windghost2 I know
Guys, in a deadpool and spiderman comic spiderman was about to kill the villain after realizing they had no other choices, if it wasnt for deadpool killing the villain before peter could do it, he would have done it
This video made me realize that the The Boys universe is pretty much the Gotham of the superhero multiverse.
Idk anything about the boys but spiderman would kill them all in one day lmao
Don't lie to yourself, he would be dead.
How? How could anyone from the boys compare to Spiderman?
MCU Spiderman might not be able to beat Homelander. I think it's a close match.
But literally every other version of Spiderman would absolutely beat everyone in The Boys, no question.
@oblivion1924
Homelander kills Spider-Man immediately.
Just because you take all of Spider-Mans' most goofy feats and mash them up into one all-powerful Spiderman doesn't mean he wins.
His greatest opp is a Man with Four Robot Arms, Give Up.
nah poor Peter would be killed the second he meet homeland
funny joke bro you made me laugh a bit where do you learn it from? Hell no bro spidey one shots even ultimate spider-man (tv show) is more powerful than homelander, spidey was able to hurt nightmare in the dream dimension this being a multiverseal plus feat and then he was able to one shot grandmaster and grandmaster is leagues stronger than collector this being another multiverseal plus feat and he was able to lift a portion of Manhattan which is 1252084.67 tons
I'm only at 5:44 but i wonder if peter couldn't survive compound V and if so how would his powers change
insomniac spider man would absolutely cook the boys verse
And comics spider-man would be overkill
Insomniac struggled against Doctor Otto, he stand no chance against Homelander.
Please do a video on What If Kratos Was In Invincible. That would be a better matchup especially when it comes to power scaling and survivability.