Should you use Inserts or Send FX? Think smart 😉
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- In this video, we talk about the eternal question: Should you use Inserts or Send effects???
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This is definitely great for vocals. The more I know,, the more I realize how little I know.👍
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The issue mentioned only affects some reverb plugins. The SSL Flexverb, for example, allows the dry signal to bypass the reverb processing, to be mixed in, as the final stage before output. There may be other plugs which do the same.
At last some body explained it in a way that I understand :) Thanks a lot
I've watched a few videos in a row now and you deserve the sub.
Good job!
I like that you start with, there are no rules. So true and one of the greatest parts of making music.
Also to consider: If you record onto mono tracks, the inserts will always be in mono. I do my vocals in mono because it's more efficient & easier to automate the volume with the pen tool. If I want a reverb or delay that has stereo separation, I have to use a send to an FX channel that routes to a stereo bus/group so I'll actually get the left/right separation.
As a producer who has started mixing other people’s projects, the biggest issue I’ve encountered is with delays printed as inserts. You have no control over the delays at that point, you start compressing things and suddenly that echo is stepping on the legibility of certain words. I always ask for dry vocals too, but then I need to recreate their effects chain just to automate one delay phrase that got in the way. Reverbs? If it’s not drowning in it I can usually work around it. I only send to reverbs when it’s a shared reverb between tracks, my sort of “global ambience” chain. But delays, always a send or a separate track for the big throws
I learnt this for myself years ago and it's good to get confirmation that I'm on the right track
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Much appreciated!
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Thank you! This is by far the best explanation I have found on inserts vs. sends.
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great explaination, why I should use the Send-Way instead of the Insert-Way for Reverb on vocals - because of remeining the same Volume of the Dry-Signal - Thank you so much
Also, using as a send instead of an insert saves on CPU/processing power. You can make one reverb and dial in the amount via send on multiple tracks.
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Even knowing this process quite well, I still love watching your videos. It’s almost like having that first “Aha!” moment again. People, listen to this advice! It’ll save you so much hassle and re-doing of things. Trust me. Actually, trust Dom. Awesome video. 👏🏼
Great tutorial. I might add that it can save cpu resources to use a single send instead of several inserts. Still, every time I thought, "...and you can do this..." It was the next thing you said. I love the way you teach, Dom!!
Took the words outta my mouth! I do this to put less pressure on the cpu 👍🏼
Dom, thank you for the amazing videos. You are a natural-born instructor! Cheers.
When I'm doing reverb throws on audio post projects, I usually quickly dupe the track, edit the clip to the sound I want to trigger the throw, and insert a reverb plugin (blend to taste). It's faster than automation, especially on tight deadlines!
This video was very helpful.
Please we need the video on how to create the automations from the send
More of these “simple” questions answered please! Thank you!
I'm glad you addressed the guitar example in the end because I had stuck to the rule that delay and reverb should always be on Sends, but struggled in my mixes with balancing the soundscape of ambience and depth. Reintroducing such on Inserts really helped me not being so square with "what's right", and I think the perfect question to ask is, where do the want the location of the sound to be in the soundscape and do you want to be able to distinguish the sound source? If so, keep dry, if not, put it on Insert and through it far back and give focus to other instruments in the forefront.
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Thank you so much for the kind words- glad the videos help and thank you for the support
Beautifully explained Dom.
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I'm a beginner and am glad to know this, thanks. Man this stuff is so complicated!
Thanks Dom, perfect timing with this vid!
One way as just a good practice. One way as a creative effect, that gets used less often. ...But also don't forget to enjoy it. Thank you for explaining these things for those of us who are new...or even for those who just need to be reminded. 😅 These are the videos we need.
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Thank you again for a helpful video! You always open my eyes on something...........
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finally a very good explanation between insert / send effect ! thank you very much !
The video I’m looking for. Thanx Dom
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In general, I think of inserts as being track specific, groups as ... well, a group of similar tracks, and sends as when I want use the same process on a bunch of different tracks. I know that the sends are a carry-over from consoles and when you only had one particular reverb. The digital domain definitely gives a lot more leeway and flexibility =]
Another technique I've used - and maybe continue to use - is to do parallel processing. It's the same idea as parallel compression but it's just broader to include anything you want to process. You just duplicate the track and on the duplicate track, you can insert whatever effects you want and, if they have a wet/dry mix knob, set them to 100% (or whatever to taste but it should be greater than 50%). Then you can use your channel faders to blend the two parts together. That way you still get the clarity of the original dry signal on top of the effects you want. Similarly, this is a way not to have the effect overpower the track.
I've also played around with the "Abbey Road reverb trick", which is a deep cut below 600Hz and below and above 10,000Hz (hi-pass/low-pass respectively) before the reverb. This is done so you only want to the "juicy" stuff to get the reverb, which is all in the mid-range. Similarly, this avoids the muddiness that occurs when you send low (and even low-mid) frequencies as well as the loss of clarity for the high end. Unless the reverb plugin gives you a pre-EQ option, you would use it with the reverb set up as a send option.
If need to do automation on a track, use as insert, say a reverb that needs the parameters to be modified as you go along that track. If the effect has to reflect same atmosphere, say the room, then use as send effect. Regards.
I learned that "Abbey Road" technique from Bobby Owsinski and it really is kind of a magical thing. Thanks for sharing your concepts.
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Great, simplified explanation! Thanks, Dom!
This is the best explanation I've heard for this, thank you!
Very clear and informative video. . I will wait for more this high clarity videos. Fantastic. Just blowed my mind.
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Thanks friend, very useful tutorial !
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Super clear!
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This was very helpful, thank you.
Clarity finally. Thanks!
Thx for sharing.
Thanks so much for this Dom!😊 Brilliant, such a great demonstration of the differences you can achieve!
Thanks for sharing your Cubase wisdom. I would really love to see a video on how to approach the procuction of an album or EP in Cubase. Having all tracks in one project supports good consistence between tracks but you have to use automation a lot. Having all tracks in seperate projects is more flexible but quite timeconsuming if you make mix decisions for one song that need to be applied to the other songs. Would be great to see a video on that topic.
Again a great advice. Even if i used it in an intuitive way this sounds logical now. Many thanks
Hi Don, thanks for this, again great learning video.
I guess I have been very lazy. I have always used revers as an insert. The problem as you wellicht said was that always ended up losing the volume of the track I was hoping to enrich. (Lossing dry signal).
I now understand the importance of using this effect, (also delay) as a send.
I am sure my tracks will sound 99 % more clear, (less muddy) and that is whay we all want at the end, a very balanced sing. Thanks man, gretige from Amsterdam.
Thank you for your support. I appreciate your videos. I am not a Pro and I (just) like to make and publish my own songs. After working with Cubase for quite a long time I now finally know the difference between insert and send.
Bro, this was an awesome tutorial. I have learned so much from watching your videos. Thanks, Dom!!!!
I need such episodes! A very important topic explained as simply as possible ... Thanks Dom!
Thank you!
Thanks so much dom for breaking this down for us I use really get confused elot with with inserts and send,especially with reverb and you just clarify and made it really easy to understand.😍😍😍😍
Awesome as usual!
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Oh boy, this was just what I needed right now! Thanks. I loved the advantages and disadvantages for both ways, too: I can see how I can use both now. Thanks much.
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as a beginner in Cubase you help me a lot and as a 1 year doing mixing i always doing wrong. ( what i want is dry vocals with reverb but i always put in insert )
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Great explanation! Clear as a bell.. 👍
Thanks ❤️
Another nice vid. Some good ideas about post-processing the reverb send channel that are often overlooked.. adding chorus, saturation, etc. I think the vid missed out on one point that is very important for people running older systems, and that's CPU. If you start putting a bunch of different reverbs across channels as inserts, you might start running into problems. 2 or 3 different reverb channels setup up as sends will take the load off the CPU in large projects... though I sometimes wonder about build up problems that might occur if you are feeding a lot of tracks into one effects send.
GREAT video, Dom!! Thanks so much!!!
Thanks a lot !Big difference,i've tried...i and with Send you can create a lot more linear sound,more smooth response overall !This is also very good if you need to drop the CPU work,you can use 1 Reverb for 5-10-20 tracks...
Thank you for the information. Unfortunately I use garage band still and there is no send a fax, so I just tried to use the insert effect and just bring down the mix.
Very helpful video mate!
Great video again even though I'm late to the party: Always great to repeat and see if you know what you take for granted.
I nuss one thing though. If you have ONE FX track you can run a heavy FX like reverb on in and use Send on hundreds´of tracks and your computer will not get bogged down and catch fire. Run hundreds of tracks with one heavy reverb on each track ... Goodbye Computer!! It's a way to save CPU power so I like to add it ... over a half year too late. Oh, well .... :D
It is actually very simple. While there are no "rules" as you say, lets go back a little bit and look into how we were using effect processors on hardware gear. Many old cheap units did not have dry/wet knobs( even lots of old plugins didn't ) - you would connect your effect processor, be that reverb, delay, whatever, to your mixer dedicated auxiliary channels and send stuff you want as much as you want into that reverb aux from the mixer. This way you could set pre-post fader send mode, change level of the dry signal, change amount of the send signal, and further process reverb for instance, roll off bottom end of the reverb aux. Now, this approach is what we do in DAW, sending signal in parallel to the effect processor. The only downside to this is that reverb settings are the same for all channels sent to that aux. In olden days of 16/24/32 channel mixers, I would really have to think about how to utilise my 16 channel recorder and i could not afford to hav different reverb on each different drum element for instance so i would have "room" for snare and "plate" for the "room mic" (i could but it would be tedious and non-practical, to comp each separate track through one processor with one set of parameters, then another, then another... I did that to experiment, and usually got weird results - it makes sense if you want gated reverb on a snare and a lush room chamber - but i only had one compressor and one processor!). I would direct it all into one reverb and generally, it would be fine. Now, you can have zillion send effects and aux tracks and you should utilise that - if you need to. Also, separate effect track is handy on its own for processing and sound design - eq, compression, distortion , band passing/stopping etc etc. You can send effect version to 5 different effect subgroups and experiment with each, so why doing it seral? So, yeah, slapping insert effect in serial on something never made much sense, because it limits you further down the line. If we got to a point where daws have unlimited amount of tracks and sends, why not use it? Another big problem is gain loss you just mentioned, and although you would normally balance out dry and ffect tracks in a similar fashion as you would with a knob, it can lead to very different results in between, mainly, tiny signal.
So, no rules, I use eq in parallel when i want to de-ess vocals without compressor, or emphasize vocals, or ddistortion in parallel, compression in parallel - but it is a good rule of a thumb - processors that will use ENTIRE GAIN of your input signal in a conventional setup - like eq, filters, compressors, those should be serial. Anything you mix in with the original - should go in parallel.
Very insightful and helpful Dom, thank you!
Very useful stuff for me, as always, thanks Dom!
Absolutely addinh Fx s to the send fx track is better way
Dude is coming with the important questions and content, like always. 🔥
Yes please the video you suggest in 5:30
A possible reason to put a reverb as an insert could be if you want the sum of the reverb and the dry signal to be processed together like with a saturator, compressor or a gate. Using it on a snare this way comes to mind
Good video. Thanks.
Another cool knowledge-share video by Dom!!! Thanks so much for uploading content like this man!!! (btw why are you using the same vocal line on all of these videos LMAO)
Another fantastic video! You always have the most clear, concise explanation for the why, how and why not. Thank you.
Thanks Dom. Another great tutorial. I'm from the 80's studio where lexicons etc were v expensive! Hence we used aux sends cos we didn't have many FX! Also, if you use the same reverb in on various tracks, they sound as if they are coming from the same room 👍. Thanks again 👍
Another great video!! Why do people thumb down instructional videos 🤔
Once more a master class. Thank you.
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One way as a good practice. One way as a creative effect, that gets used less often.
But don't forget to enjoy it.
Video about diference between reverb automatation with send or return fader would be great Dom!
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Hi Dom, thanks for the video!!. This has helped me a lot!! I have been working on a Christmas song( that i wrote) and have done in my home studio, and although i am by no means a singer, i have had to do the vocals myself, so the vocals are not perfect! I had the vocals with insert reverb effects, and although it did not sound too bad, something wasn't quite right, the vocals were not sitting right? I changed all the settings so that the vocal tracks were using a reverb send effect, and on that send i placed my 2 favourite reverbs, The change has made things much better, the vocals are sitting much better in the mix!!!!!!! The overall result has made me happier with the vocals, especially as i am not a singer!!!!! Dom, thank you so much!!!! You're the best!