You got that right! She sure was used both in Hollywood and closer to home. Tearing the Wings off of a butterfly? Sending her daughter out with an older man knowing she would probably get raped and sure enough she did get raped. I suppose all her mother really wanted was all the things Natalie would be able to buy her, etc etc
it seems to me that's how life works. The way you are the most afraid of dying is the way you die and you unconsciously choose your disease. All my life I was scared to death of having a stroke or in some way winding up a prisoner in my own body and now here I am paralyzed. I praise the Lord that I'm not totally paralyzed!
🌸 her mother or nana predicted that she would die in sea, which is why she was afraid of it This is how I know they lied when he said she went into digging No one with a fear like that could do so 2011 they gained new evidence and redid autopsy, they reviewed all pics and evidence They noticed she had no bruises associated with drowning but she hand bruises on her ankles, wrists and knees consistent with throwing someone over side of boat Also captain recently confirmed in that new case, that he lied originally and said her husband stopped him from using search lights that night when he noticed her missing and refused him calling anyone to report it to help her from possible water What he didn’t realise is that she was tossed overboard. Robert didn’t call authorities till NEXT MORNING, when he was sure she was DEAD. She saw something and she possibly threatened to tell, I’m guessing she caught him & Chris having sex. It was said if it came out back then it would have destroyed Christopher career
It was probably because when she was 10 while filming a movie a bridge broke too soon and she was hanging onto it over a raging river and rain in the dark and they kept filming the scene not realizing what happened. She broke her wrist.
'Rebel Without a Cause' must have been cursed seeing as how Wood and her two co-stars met with premature deaths (James Dean dying in a car crash and Sal Mineo was stabbed by a mugger).
I've always believed that he was responsible, maybe not intentionally. I can remember reading at the time that he was very jealous of her - across the board. Jealous and resentful of her success, the 'ease' with which it came to her (yeah, right, with that Mother), around other men and about the children. The more I've seen of men like that, the more I can see him pushing or shoving while haranguing her about Walken, and her going over the side. Then his sole concern was to protect himself.
I think at the very least he knew that she had gone overboard and did nothing about it. Everyone on the yacht was completely intoxicated, RW was extremely jealous for many reasons. Maybe some flirting with co-star, possibly more. Some people thought that she was trying to get into the dinghy to escape but given her fear and inability to swim, I doubt it. Nothing really done about it & his career and parental rights continued. I doubt this would happen nowadays. People hushed up and got away with so much more 40 plus yrs ago.
My feeling is that it was a tragic accident precipitated by the behavior of the people on board ship. I have always thought it likely that she had been beaten and that, trying to get away from her abuser, she attempted to get into the dinghy to get to the tiny village at Two Harbors since the boat was moored near there at the isthmus of Catalina. It would have been possible for her to get transport from Two Harbors to Avalon (the major settlement), and she could have taken the ferry or possibly a helicopter from there back to the mainland. However, the seas around Catalina Island can be quite rough and piloting a dinghy is not so easy as it might seem especially for someone who lacks experience in handling a small craft. Given her fear of deep water and given her status as a star, it seems unlikely that she ever had to do anything so "workmanlike" as rowing a dinghy. It has been many years but my memories of Catalina are sharp enough--yes, I have been there and yes, I have rowed a dinghy from ship to shore. It is physically difficult getting from the ship into the dinghy because of the waves, and it's also difficult to row the distance, particularly if the tide is going out. I have wondered what the tide was doing at the time of night she might have tried to get to shore. It's easy to drop an oar out of the oarlocks, and easy to tip the small boat if you reach out trying to get it back. I can think of many things that could so easily have gone wrong. Although it is possible (maybe even probable) that Natalie was murdered, it seems to me more likely that she was just trying to get away from the men, the arguments, and the abuse but she failed in the attempt.
Natalie had retired for the evening. She took her night pills and was dressed in her pajamas. Something had told her to check on the men before she went to sleep. What she saw, caused hysteria. RJ Wagner and Christopher Walken were in a compromising position. It wasn’t the first time Natalie caught RJ with another man. When they were first married, RJ was with his Butler. It destroyed her and their marriage. On the yacht that night, a terrible fight ensued. It was verbal, then it became violent, when she threatened to blow the whistle on RJ and Walken. At that time, it would have ruined both of their careers. RJ beat her up, then threw her overboard to silence her for good. Granted, they were all intoxicated, however, RJ knew exactly what he had done. So did Walken, so did the captain. It took RJ 3 hours to phone the lifeguard!! I hope the truth comes out before RJ dies, then Natalie can finally Rest In Peace. 🕊
She was bruised she was in the water still wearing wool socks you can't thrash around the water and still wear wool socks she was unconscious thanks to Wagner who sought to teach her a lesson
Once Wagner and Natalie began fighting on the back of the ship it was no accident she ended up in the water...It was deliberate, and that's called murder
Hi Paul, another great video. I have read quite a bit about this topic. Christopher Walken swears that he was in bed and knew nothing about the fight or her subsequent death. For her to try to get into a dinghy by herself and at night, it would have been something life threatening. Everyone on the boat knew she couldn’t swim. Frankly her fight with Wagner was loud and violent. I’m sure that Walken was awake and kept quiet to protect Wagner and himself, especially if they were sexually involved. The media would have crucified them both. She was likely unconscious from the beating when she was dumped into the water. Even if she fell, Wagner did nothing to save her life, the opposite happened. People have tried to contact her spirit ever since. I’m subscribed to a couple of those channels. According to her spirit, she was murdered and Wagner watched her drown. Take that information as you will. My hope is that she receives justice for all the abuse and crimes committed against her. May her soul rest peacefully. ❤Brenda
There is no way of being completely sure what happened to Natalie Wood but you did fail to mention a significant fact. Lana Wood has repeatedly accused Robert Wagner of being complicit in her sister’s death, however Natalie’s daughters don’t think so. Because what happened is still not completely clear suspicions and accusation will continue. One word of caution, there have been many strong circumstantial cases that have seemed to suggest that someone is definitely a murderer only to be disproved in the light of accurate forensics that have eventually turned up the truth.
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I think they were fighting and she said something stupid out if anger like "I'm going to tell" and at that point she just couldn't continue to be left alive. It would've ruined his life at that time in history. He was known to be a ladiesman from his shows.
I believe Walken and Mrs. Woods husband had a fling. By meaning a relationship. They knew she couldn’t swim and most likely were drunk and threw her in the water. Hoping she could get that scene right and intentionally and stupidly caused her to drown .
She was Ukrainian, not Russian. And she was hardly at the peak of her career; her career at this time was in serious decline. Still, a tragedy nevertheless.
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Funny how Robert Wagner never got the OJ Simpson treatment I'm just curious why there weren't any rantings and ravings about Mr. Wagner not facing any jail time maybe OJ never would've been accused in the first place if he had another complexion well I can't feel to bad for the former actor /football player he wanted to fit in with those types of people and he learned the hard way so I don't feel to bad oh well
My brother worked for RJ & Natalie. RJ called him the morning that Natalie’s body was found. RJ told my brother that Natalie caught RJ & Walken having sex, and she was extremely distraught. RJ asked my brother to hide Natasha & Courtney from the paparazzi at his place, because RJ had to stay in Catalina Island during the investigation. Four-year-old Courtney broke my brother’s eardrum - pounding on the side of his head, because she didn’t believe her mother was dead.
I have never believed she died accidentally.
You and I both!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔
No one has! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Wow, never heard that butterfly story before.
The butterfly should receive an honorary Oscar, for its sacrifice for art.
R.I.P. little flutterby. 🦋
You got that right! She sure was used both in Hollywood and closer to home. Tearing the Wings off of a butterfly? Sending her daughter out with an older man knowing she would probably get raped and sure enough she did get raped. I suppose all her mother really wanted was all the things Natalie would be able to buy her, etc etc
her mother ripped a butterfly's wings off? oh boy that was my first red flag
That's so vile, so cruel, I can barely stand to hear of it. The woman had to be evil to do that to her own child for such selfish reasons.
my SPECULATION only : appears to be premeditated via her mother .... did she have a favvoite insect of Natalie in preparation ?
Ive always thought murder not accident. You don't get bruises from drowning.
She was holding onto the dinghy for hours and could have been saved according to Dr. Michael Hunter of the TV show Autopsy.
It may have been an accident, but Wagner caused it
Kirk Douglas was a monster
Her untimely death is a huge loss. I remember seeing Brainstorm in the theater back in 1983. Fantastic flick and fantastic acting by Mrs. Wood. RIP.
can’t wait until this account is famous and i can say i was one of the first 70 followers🥰
Why Walken has kept his mouth shut all these years I'll never know. Marilyn Wayne reveals what happened she heard him.
Wagner murdered her and with Walken backing him up got away with it.
Christopher walken knows what happened
So does Wagner. He killed her.
Jealous husband, a young actor, recipe for murder. The bruises on her body tell the story. Peace be her and children.
Walken was her lover. And Wagner found out.
Christopher Walken instead of Christopher Talken
He's 81. He will never say anything now.
Sadly, the true facts of her demise went with her. RIP, beautiful woman.🥀
Robert Wagner did it. And got away with it.
I wonder why Christopher Walken would be so quiet...he knows exactly what happened
I love her work. She was always so afraid of dying by drowning in the sea…and it came to be.
Tragically, it seems like she got exactly what she didn't want all her life. I feel so bad for her.
it seems to me that's how life works. The way you are the most afraid of dying is the way you die and you unconsciously choose your disease. All my life I was scared to death of having a stroke or in some way winding up a prisoner in my own body and now here I am paralyzed. I praise the Lord that I'm not totally paralyzed!
🌸 her mother or nana predicted that she would die in sea, which is why she was afraid of it
This is how I know they lied when he said she went into digging
No one with a fear like that could do so
2011 they gained new evidence and redid autopsy, they reviewed all pics and evidence
They noticed she had no bruises associated with drowning but she hand bruises on her ankles, wrists and knees consistent with throwing someone over side of boat
Also captain recently confirmed in that new case, that he lied originally and said her husband stopped him from using search lights that night when he noticed her missing and refused him calling anyone to report it to help her from possible water
What he didn’t realise is that she was tossed overboard. Robert didn’t call authorities till NEXT MORNING, when he was sure she was DEAD. She saw something and she possibly threatened to tell, I’m guessing she caught him & Chris having sex. It was said if it came out back then it would have destroyed Christopher career
It was probably because when she was 10 while filming a movie a bridge broke too soon and she was hanging onto it over a raging river and rain in the dark and they kept filming the scene not realizing what happened. She broke her wrist.
I always felt something was off.Robert Wagner is just sus.
Please make more of these videos I love these videos keep up the amazing job my friend
Great story! It certainly makes you wonder, doesn't it.
I love your new videos! Keep them coming.
'Rebel Without a Cause' must have been cursed seeing as how Wood and her two co-stars met with premature deaths (James Dean dying in a car crash and Sal Mineo was stabbed by a mugger).
Destiny,maybe?
Such a tragic end for a beautiful lady 🥲 great story !! 💖
It's no mystery what happened to poor Natalie. Wagner should be charged with at least 2nd degree murder.
Such a beautiful and intelligent very sensibile woman. So sorry for what happened to her🥺
My grandparents were next door neighbors with Marnie Nixon, when they lived in West Hollywood
How did she get bruised all over her ????? Hmmm....
She was amazing in Splendor in the Grass, one of my favorite films.
I enjoyed that thankyou 🇮🇪🤗
I've always believed that he was responsible, maybe not intentionally. I can remember reading at the time that he was very jealous of her - across the board. Jealous and resentful of her success, the 'ease' with which it came to her (yeah, right, with that Mother), around other men and about the children. The more I've seen of men like that, the more I can see him pushing or shoving while haranguing her about Walken, and her going over the side. Then his sole concern was to protect himself.
I think at the very least he knew that she had gone overboard and did nothing about it. Everyone on the yacht was completely intoxicated, RW was extremely jealous for many reasons. Maybe some flirting with co-star, possibly more. Some people thought that she was trying to get into the dinghy to escape but given her fear and inability to swim, I doubt it. Nothing really done about it & his career and parental rights continued. I doubt this would happen nowadays. People hushed up and got away with so much more 40 plus yrs ago.
Sounds like mummy set her up for the attack(claimed).... ☹️
Awesome channel very fascinating stories 👍
I don’t think it was accidental.
Kirk Douglas 😡
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My feeling is that it was a tragic accident precipitated by the behavior of the people on board ship. I have always thought it likely that she had been beaten and that, trying to get away from her abuser, she attempted to get into the dinghy to get to the tiny village at Two Harbors since the boat was moored near there at the isthmus of Catalina. It would have been possible for her to get transport from Two Harbors to Avalon (the major settlement), and she could have taken the ferry or possibly a helicopter from there back to the mainland. However, the seas around Catalina Island can be quite rough and piloting a dinghy is not so easy as it might seem especially for someone who lacks experience in handling a small craft. Given her fear of deep water and given her status as a star, it seems unlikely that she ever had to do anything so "workmanlike" as rowing a dinghy. It has been many years but my memories of Catalina are sharp enough--yes, I have been there and yes, I have rowed a dinghy from ship to shore. It is physically difficult getting from the ship into the dinghy because of the waves, and it's also difficult to row the distance, particularly if the tide is going out. I have wondered what the tide was doing at the time of night she might have tried to get to shore. It's easy to drop an oar out of the oarlocks, and easy to tip the small boat if you reach out trying to get it back. I can think of many things that could so easily have gone wrong. Although it is possible (maybe even probable) that Natalie was murdered, it seems to me more likely that she was just trying to get away from the men, the arguments, and the abuse but she failed in the attempt.
Natalie had retired for the evening. She took her night pills and was dressed in her pajamas. Something had told her to check on the men before she went to sleep. What she saw, caused hysteria. RJ Wagner and Christopher Walken were in a compromising position. It wasn’t the first time Natalie caught RJ with another man. When they were first married, RJ was with his Butler. It destroyed her and their marriage. On the yacht that night, a terrible fight ensued. It was verbal, then it became violent, when she threatened to blow the whistle on RJ and Walken. At that time, it would have ruined both of their careers. RJ beat her up, then threw her overboard to silence her for good. Granted, they were all intoxicated, however, RJ knew exactly what he had done. So did Walken, so did the captain. It took RJ 3 hours to phone the lifeguard!! I hope the truth comes out before RJ dies, then Natalie can finally Rest In Peace. 🕊
She was bruised she was in the water still wearing wool socks you can't thrash around the water and still wear wool socks she was unconscious thanks to Wagner who sought to teach her a lesson
Once Wagner and Natalie began fighting on the back of the ship it was no accident she ended up in the water...It was deliberate, and that's called murder
Read the book Good bye Natalie Good bye spendour and you what really happened
Hi Paul, another great video. I have read quite a bit about this topic. Christopher Walken swears that he was in bed and knew nothing about the fight or her subsequent death. For her to try to get into a dinghy by herself and at night, it would have been something life threatening. Everyone on the boat knew she couldn’t swim. Frankly her fight with Wagner was loud and violent. I’m sure that Walken was awake and kept quiet to protect Wagner and himself, especially if they were sexually involved. The media would have crucified them both. She was likely unconscious from the beating when she was dumped into the water. Even if she fell, Wagner did nothing to save her life, the opposite happened. People have tried to contact her spirit ever since. I’m subscribed to a couple of those channels. According to her spirit, she was murdered and Wagner watched her drown. Take that information as you will. My hope is that she receives justice for all the abuse and crimes committed against her. May her soul rest peacefully. ❤Brenda
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it was murder l never believed it was an accident RW has a lot to answer too
It may have been an accidental killing but wagner surely did it
@@aidenswords5809 it could not have been an accidental killing he heard her screaming for help and he did nothing
Love your video ❤
I believe he did it in a rag and he got away with it .
Awesome content but, I subscribed for the host. Reminds me of The Mandarin from Ironman 3.
She kind of did what Liz Taylor did: make the transition from child roles to adult roles.
Robert & Christopher are still alive. 2/18/24 Let's get them in a room with Dennis & see what happens! I bet the true comes out!
I would like to hear your take on Fatty Arbuckle
This looks like a new channel...
Hopefully I don't regret subscribing. The host is cool
Nah mate you won't
Do be sure to check out the host's other channel called Well, I Never.
New subbie
Thank you.
That poor sweet girl 😔💔
There is no way of being completely sure what happened to Natalie Wood but you did fail to mention a significant fact. Lana Wood has repeatedly accused Robert Wagner of being complicit in her sister’s death, however Natalie’s daughters don’t think so. Because what happened is still not completely clear suspicions and accusation will continue. One word of caution, there have been many strong circumstantial cases that have seemed to suggest that someone is definitely a murderer only to be disproved in the light of accurate forensics that have eventually turned up the truth.
Still love that woman💓💯
One of the Iconic time of Hollywood, used by all the VAMPIRES of that shameful business 🤬💥☠️ 🇬🇧 Love and jealousy 😭🆘 in that world, I'm looking forward to hearing people's Deathbed Confessions 💥💯☠️😭💯
Rest In Peace 👑☮️🙏🗣️🌹
A convenient accident. Stardom negates justice.
Superb!
James Dean video?
I think they were fighting and she said something stupid out if anger like "I'm going to tell" and at that point she just couldn't continue to be left alive. It would've ruined his life at that time in history. He was known to be a ladiesman from his shows.
Where's their money fame power control. Theirs murder. All swept away rich and famous. Its always been this way !!! ❤❤
I've somebody's strange life & demise that should be "examined".. Johnny Lewis.
John wayne video
I heard about this but this is the first short documentary I am watching on it I want to see if Johnathan from hart to Hart is guilty or innocent
Loooooooved her in West side story!
I hope we get a deathbed confession one day
She did the original miracle on 34th Street there was a remake not sure which one fans liked the best .
She called it dark water not deep water
She was murdered by Wagner
It is totally REDRUM!!!
He killed her
I believe Walken and Mrs. Woods husband had a fling. By meaning a relationship. They knew she couldn’t swim and most likely were drunk and threw her in the water. Hoping she could get that scene right and intentionally and stupidly caused her to drown .
It was Walken & Wagner
Jonathan hart as killer 🤔🤔🧐🧐👀🧠🧐💯u never know we are able to be pushed over the edge sometimes
Most people have two different sides, some sides "dangerous and sinister" stay away from the bad sides and embrace the good sides.....Peace😁
Easier said than done when people post stupid comments like this one 😂
She was Ukrainian, not Russian. And she was hardly at the peak of her career; her career at this time was in serious decline. Still, a tragedy nevertheless.
Back in the commie days it was all the same. She always called herself Russian.
I personally think that Robert Warner killed natalie but accidentally I wish he'd tell the truth now so thT Natalie's family can finally have closure
Never heard of her but now seeing how GORGEOUS she was it’s hard to forget her 🤪… what a waste 😥
Simmer doon 😅
Your marriage would have failed anyway, mate. That was her speciality, wasn't it???
An accident since 1981...That's right,folks...
Never heard of this before but family guy leads me to believe that she drowned. I guess we'll find out 😂
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Rebel without a Cause sucked!
The push ifmightbe detecedas the human breathes differently if she us pushed into the. Deep.sea.thAt then will.show in autopsy
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Funny how Robert Wagner never got the OJ Simpson treatment I'm just curious why there weren't any rantings and ravings about Mr. Wagner not facing any jail time maybe OJ never would've been accused in the first place if he had another complexion well I can't feel to bad for the former actor /football player he wanted to fit in with those types of people and he learned the hard way so I don't feel to bad oh well
Punctuation please
My brother worked for RJ & Natalie. RJ called him the morning that Natalie’s body was found. RJ told my brother that Natalie caught RJ & Walken having sex, and she was extremely distraught. RJ asked my brother to hide Natasha & Courtney from the paparazzi at his place, because RJ had to stay in Catalina Island during the investigation. Four-year-old Courtney broke my brother’s eardrum - pounding on the side of his head, because she didn’t believe her mother was dead.
Well, for starters, there's the fact that Robert Wagner didn't spell out "Hi, I'm Bob and I did it" in his and his victim's blood. 🙄
She seems to have been the problem. Multiple failed marriages ain't a coincidence and was Definitely frowned upon at that time period!
Victim blaming much??
Funny that, the men in those days had many failed marriages. So no.
I thought the wizard of oz girl went through that kirk douglas thing!