Someone actually put it into words, conceptualizad it, and I’m speechless...because that’s exactly what it feels like when you start getting it, realizing the immensity that you are
Best ways to show someone the truth, Fibonacci sequence and Mandelbrot set. Those two will either wake people up or expose those who refuse to learn. Named after God for a reason..
Honestly, one of the best most interesting, multi-talented+interdisciplinary talk I’ve ever heard trying to explain the inexplicable in more than words, sound, video editing, writing. I spotted so many untold jokes that I wasn’t sure if I was the only one spotting them. For one person to have created this lesson would boggle most minds, but I for one am grateful to have watched, listened, truly understood, and learned that I can try to explain things like this in my own life.
My take from this was that math is infinite and music is infinite, and that infinity is beautiful. I was expecting a talk about direct correlation between mathematics and music but instead it was just a redundant talk about those two things so I actually ended up pretty disappointed with this talk. Maybe going in with no expectations I could see how people love this
This video reminds em of the book "The Medici Effect" by Frans Johansson. This is a great example of the intersection that he speaks on in the book. This was a dope video! Math X Music >
The way to think of music and math is easy: math is not involved with the creation of music (unless a composer specifically invokes the relationship when writing a piece by say, purposefully doubling the interval between each note in a X note long melody: half-step, whole-step, Major 3rd, diminished 6th, etc) however, music is especially suspectable to being deconstructed mathematically. In other words, Bach didn't use any math when writing his fugues however, his fugues are easily described with numbers. But, to a certain degree, this is illusionary: music is a language and any language can be broken down numerically, just like we break down music... it's just much easier with music. Subsequently, that's where most people focus on their being a relationship - they're related because they're easy to relate. Relating say, German to math is doable, but very few people would be able to do it. This occurs because of what music is: "The purposeful creation, and corralling, of tone in meter. The only one of these criteria that's actually required to communicate using the language of music is the last: meter." Without a beat, steady or otherwise identifiable (and not using a contrivance such as holding an instrument) we cannot recognize the language of music is being used. The essence of music then, is a beat. So the essence of music can be expressed as "counting" and if you're language is based on counting, it's going to end up relating to math in a huge number of easy-to-see ways. The previously mentioned language of German, is not root in counting therefore, while relatable to math, it's relationship is substantially more complicated and thus, less easy to see.
He didn't say one single thing about tunings. I would argue that nowhere else is music and maths linked more than in the field of tuning and intonation.
Nobody cares about sound or tuning correlation with physics and so mathematics, it's pointless and no worth studying. He's talking about how both with one and with the other you can reach and discover the same things and the same feelings. Things you don't achieve rationally and that probably no one will ever understand but everyone should search
I was never afraid of math. It isn’t like defending a point of view that requires thinking of every possible refutation, in order to “win,” an argument. There is only one right answer. I wish it hadn’t been presented, to us girls anyway, as something to be afraid of, or I would have majored in mathematics.
The problem which I have been dealing with since the 1970s comes from the fact that the modern theories of math and music has corrupted their original intents. I have developed an alternate cohesive theory of music theory, tuning theory, number theory, and geometry that I called eidetic mathematics.
Ancient Purn shloka.. Aum! That is infinite, and this (universe) is infinite. The infinite proceeds from the infinite. (Then) taking the infinitude of the infinite (universe), It remains as the infinite alone. Aum! Peace! Peace! Peace!
Don't wanna spoil anybody's fun, but I think people who are mind blown simply are not used to thinking of art so much. I was looking for notions behind the hazy hype he created (with wonderful eloquence, for sure), and realized he basically only name-dropped some connections between the cognitive experiences, notions I can believe to be observable but which I find ultimately unhelpful. This mystifies art in a way I find unnecessary, and it's a shame, because it's clear the presenter did his best to DEmystify these concepts, but a 20 minutes talk is simply not enough, and risks leaving people without prior knowledge on the topic even more confused than when they entered, without having really learned anything.
Someone actually put it into words, conceptualizad it, and I’m speechless...because that’s exactly what it feels like when you start getting it, realizing the immensity that you are
Best ways to show someone the truth, Fibonacci sequence and Mandelbrot set. Those two will either wake people up or expose those who refuse to learn. Named after God for a reason..
Honestly, one of the best most interesting, multi-talented+interdisciplinary talk I’ve ever heard trying to explain the inexplicable in more than words, sound, video editing, writing. I spotted so many untold jokes that I wasn’t sure if I was the only one spotting them.
For one person to have created this lesson would boggle most minds, but I for one am grateful to have watched, listened, truly understood, and learned that I can try to explain things like this in my own life.
Have you watched it again? Sounds like it could be worth the frequent re-watch.
All math teachers should carry a saxophone into class !
No disagreement here, it'd be cool, but tbh, just having teachers be this passionate would inspire students to listen.
Here-Here!!!
Your call to rethink how we identify beauty is so powerful. Thanks for this!
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IVE CRIED IN A LONG TIME BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS SO BEAUTIFUL. THIS BEAUTY IS WHAT I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE CHASING
me too :)
The eloquence of his speech seem almost unreal. This poetic presentation left me with an awkward sense: what did I actually learn?
Beauty.
What an awesome rendering of defining creativity! Bravo!!!
My take from this was that math is infinite and music is infinite, and that infinity is beautiful. I was expecting a talk about direct correlation between mathematics and music but instead it was just a redundant talk about those two things so I actually ended up pretty disappointed with this talk. Maybe going in with no expectations I could see how people love this
This video reminds em of the book "The Medici Effect" by Frans Johansson. This is a great example of the intersection that he speaks on in the book. This was a dope video! Math X Music >
Marcus talks with a moving feeling, but stays perfectly reasonable, thats beautiful :)
Really liked this (maybe because I'm mathematician and musician;-)
Because infinity is cool let me play a riff real quick.
This was incredible
im trying to focus but all my brain can comprehend is that the carpet looks like a slice of lunch meat
Do the schnozberries taste like schnozberries?
Math and Music, mmm the m duo, languages of truth.
Pure gold!
I think i misunderstood what this would be
The way to think of music and math is easy: math is not involved with the creation of music (unless a composer specifically invokes the relationship when writing a piece by say, purposefully doubling the interval between each note in a X note long melody: half-step, whole-step, Major 3rd, diminished 6th, etc) however, music is especially suspectable to being deconstructed mathematically.
In other words, Bach didn't use any math when writing his fugues however, his fugues are easily described with numbers.
But, to a certain degree, this is illusionary: music is a language and any language can be broken down numerically, just like we break down music... it's just much easier with music. Subsequently, that's where most people focus on their being a relationship - they're related because they're easy to relate.
Relating say, German to math is doable, but very few people would be able to do it.
This occurs because of what music is:
"The purposeful creation, and corralling, of tone in meter. The only one of these criteria that's actually required to communicate using the language of music is the last: meter."
Without a beat, steady or otherwise identifiable (and not using a contrivance such as holding an instrument) we cannot recognize the language of music is being used.
The essence of music then, is a beat. So the essence of music can be expressed as "counting" and if you're language is based on counting, it's going to end up relating to math in a huge number of easy-to-see ways.
The previously mentioned language of German, is not root in counting therefore, while relatable to math, it's relationship is substantially more complicated and thus, less easy to see.
He didn't say one single thing about tunings. I would argue that nowhere else is music and maths linked more than in the field of tuning and intonation.
That's actually the whole thing bruv... Either in the beginning or in the end but not in the middle or not at all
What do you mean?
Nobody cares about sound or tuning correlation with physics and so mathematics, it's pointless and no worth studying.
He's talking about how both with one and with the other you can reach and discover the same things and the same feelings.
Things you don't achieve rationally and that probably no one will ever understand but everyone should search
This is precious ❤
I get it.... I get it. Brilliant. Thank you.🙏🏾
Majestic.
In Hebrew, "Aleph" is pronounced with a soft "a", like "ah-lef". Keep up the great work :)
A brilliant soul!
There is a relationship between math & music but this guy didn’t explain it.
What's the marimba's player full name? she's not credited in the description
I was never afraid of math. It isn’t like defending a point of view that requires thinking of every possible refutation, in order to “win,” an argument. There is only one right answer. I wish it hadn’t been presented, to us girls anyway, as something to be afraid of, or I would have majored in mathematics.
Congrats!
The problem which I have been dealing with since the 1970s comes from the fact that the modern theories of math and music has corrupted their original intents. I have developed an alternate cohesive theory of music theory, tuning theory, number theory, and geometry that I called eidetic mathematics.
Do you have a place on the internet where we can look into that?
Amazing!
This was really good fun 😀
What is the tune that they play together? I know I've heard it before but I can't quite place it
Seal kiss from a rose
@@themandinkafamily thank you!
Awesome! ❤️
As a weird kid, i used to put myself between two angled mirrors and try to look into infinity 😀
Did I miss the bit where I explained why he's talking about numbers
Ancient Purn shloka..
Aum! That is infinite, and this (universe) is infinite.
The infinite proceeds from the infinite.
(Then) taking the infinitude of the infinite (universe),
It remains as the infinite alone.
Aum! Peace! Peace! Peace!
Music in harmonies... math in measure ...
showed how music and maths are beautiful, but lost the occasion to explain the relationship between the two.....
He explains the beauty of the relationship between the two quite beautifully from 16:35 (and earlier than that too)
Cause the direct correlation is pointless
He actually looks like a genius, especially with the Neo Cortex hairline. Loved the talk tho
apakah dia Sujiwo Tedjo versi amerika??
Gak mas, cabang Canada iki.
Pam Beasley?
I thought so as well 😅
Was that a theme from pirates of Caribbean?
When does Math hurt Music?
why think within a line when imagination has no limits
i’m in 10th grade and i’ve never heard these terms before in my life i thought this was music class wtf (i’ve never heard of sum of these terms)
Why can't I understand this, 😡
Is this a real Marcus Miller!?!
no but does anyone know actually the who this is how funny
👏👏👏
Sounds like Marcus, doesn't look like Marcus the bass player?
2:14 he sounds like drake
If y'all think this is hard to comprehend, buddy I am 14years old and I grasped it all 😂
Infinity in mathematics is so much more incomprehensible than showed in this video
Math and geometry underly all of 12-tone Western music.
Don't wanna spoil anybody's fun, but I think people who are mind blown simply are not used to thinking of art so much. I was looking for notions behind the hazy hype he created (with wonderful eloquence, for sure), and realized he basically only name-dropped some connections between the cognitive experiences, notions I can believe to be observable but which I find ultimately unhelpful. This mystifies art in a way I find unnecessary, and it's a shame, because it's clear the presenter did his best to DEmystify these concepts, but a 20 minutes talk is simply not enough, and risks leaving people without prior knowledge on the topic even more confused than when they entered, without having really learned anything.
The fixation on attempting to deliberately demystify strikes me as unhelpful. There is beauty in mystery
This dude is talking a lot and not saying anything
Play some saxophone man and cut the math thing...
😆👏🏻👏🏻