Honda HRX217 vs HRC216 Which mower is more powerful?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video, we will ask the question Honda HRX217 vs HRC216 Which mower is more powerful? I will do a head to head test on
some super thick Southern Bermuda grass which will stress both mowers to the point of stalling out.
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The lawn looked so much better before than after. It was green and lush...
That is what happens with Bermuda when its time to cut. The blade of grass is only green on the top 1/3 of the plant, so it gets a little yellow after a cut. Greens back up in a day or so.
Great review. I had an HRM 215 for 18 years. I am just a homeowner but mow every 4-5 days. I replaced the wheels about every other year, the, the transmission once, and the Coil once. Then in 2019 the seals blew and I was debating which mower to get. I ended up with the HRC216. It is a heavy beast. My 11 year old has a hard time (can't) using it. I might pick up a HRX at some point, but will keep the HRC forever.
Your testing is exactly what I’ve experienced myself having both models in my garage. The 200cc probably would be neck and neck, but longevity not so much. My complaint is the weight for sure, heavy as hell and handle can’t be folded.
So what did you mean ab 19:52 out the 200cc and the longevity
Thanks for referencing my video man, yep I’m a northern boy with tall fescue. End of day, both good mowers. Enjoyed watching. I think you and I are the only ones out there with a comp.
The whole reason I started looking at comparison videos was because I WISH I could get the hrc motor on the hrx set up. The deck, bagging/mulching settings and handle height all better on the hrx
my old toro was behaving this way in thick tall grass.
I own the HRC216. My HRC216 was purchased on July 2, 2001. I use it for home only on 25,000 sq' mow~able area. It has cut in the rain and thru 4" of wet grass with ease. I have had "ZERO," issues what so ever and I mean NADA!. Plug changed 6 times, 4 fuel filters, 8 air cleaners with the blade unit sharpened 3 times each on 2 new blades. I can honestly say that I could have gotten by with less maintenance upkeep, but old habits die hard. If I had to replace my HRC216 I would buy another just like it. IMHO, there is no match for the HRC216 ever made by any company EVER! ~~ "FYI." I offer the simple fact that any major issues that may arise, thanks to RUclips, I will be able to resolve, leaving my HRC216 being the same hard working mower for at least another 20yrs...........
I have the 216 slightly modified to run faster. I actually much prefer the 217.
@@GwinnettLawns Yes, that's what I'm trying to figure out on how to modify for faster speed. Do I adjust the jam nut on the drive cable or do I move the governor spring to the other pre-drilled hole to make the spring more tight? Thank you and love your videos. I have an Tachometer / Hour Meter already installed.
Honda has improved those mowers through updates.
My daughter, female maintenance crew & I preferred the 217 because it is light over the 216.
She uses the zeroturn and newbies the 217s. But most of the time she oversees the staff & foremen.
yea the hrx2176 has the 12.3hp wich im selling mine accully to get a 16.5hp dr multi machine
@@michaelmactavish4445 For small yard, we use electrical power (AC power) because it's very light.
We hate the battery mowers because batteries take too long to charge & run time is bad.
Honda has torque curves for each motor on their small engine page. HRX(GCV190) has far more torque at 8.3lbs vs the HRC(GXV160) at 7.1lbs(both measured at 2500rpm). I'm thinking your HRC was running a few hundred RPM's faster than the HRX. Horsepower is calculated by multiplying torque x rpm divided by 5252. For the record I am not a fan of the HRX217. Mine will be for sale shortly. The HRC looks great to me, but far above my paygrade. I love Honda's GX series motors.
Good video. I'm over here in Cumming and can hardly keep up with these lawns. All the rain and heat is making it grow like crazy.
I have an HRC216 and it needs to rev at higher rpm. I set mine to the proper rpm using a tachometer and it rarely stalls now. It used to run like in this video.
I think it is set low from the factory. The specs ar availavle online for this engin.
Thanks for the video.
Cutting too low and too wide, the grass has to have somewhere to escape when your mulching
Bought a very good condition ( cosmetic ) HRC 216 for $170. I hope this is a good deal everything seems solid and sturdy. first pull to start
this is the first time I own a honda. It will be used for my back yard only it may be too powerful to my demand
I have a HRX217 VYA GCV200cc for my home. I cut St Augustine at 3" 1/2 mulch 1/2 bag on the versa mow, empty the bag when done. Hands down the best cut of any mower I have ever owned. I prefer the Toro personal pace propel system but the HRX system is better then most.
I own both mowers, I agree with your review. Thank you
Which do you like to use more and why? Also, how do you use them?
Best video award for 2029 goes to this video. great job
Holy cow. I was determined to go tomorrow and get the 217. I almost wished I hadnt seen this video.
the newer 217 have the bigger 200cc engine, mine never stalls. The mower I used year before was Toro, couldn't get 4 feet without a stall
I know this getting off point a bit, but I bought a HRX216 base last year, to replace a junky old MTD. For the money the MTD was pretty good, engine wise but the hardware kept falling off. But be warned the 216 is HEAVY! And it's long (long deck /wheelbase), and it's loud, I think it runs too fast. My point is, the 216 is too much for my smaller yard, and clumsy going around bushes, etc. Think I'm getting a 217.
You gotta adjust that governor on the HRX217 man. I can hear it’s running a little slower than I’d like it too. Of course don’t overrev it. I’d check the carb first to see if it’s clean if not then adjust the governor.
The biggest thing I hate about the hrc216 is that you can’t adjust the handlebars to accommodate different heights especially to tall people like myself. It’s also so heavy to push around and turn. It also doesn’t have the versa mow like the hrx217. In Canada the hrc216 is $1449 when the hrx217 is $979 or sometimes $879
Agreed!
@@GwinnettLawns my 12.3hp honda hrx2176 mowed tall grass
mine was $1,182.00 for the 12.3hp hrx2176 but im selling it to purches a big 16.5hp dr with 5 attachments
The New HRX has a 200cc engine..Same HP as the 216 but way more torque ...You need a new mower test!!
@Greg my thoughts exactly I have an HRX with the GCV200 and it's strong as an 🐂
Yeah i have to agree. I have hrx 217 with the 200 gcv motor. I have one lawn thats thick bermuda. Granted it isnt cut at 2” , customer likes 3.5” but mine has never stalled in the 3 years ive had it
I try to tell people them Honda’s cut in wet grass toro exmark or any other mower can’t do it! And I love exmark and toro but won’t touch them for that matter!
I live in pennsylania. We have a lot of Zoysia lawns that we cut. In my experience our HRR216 and HRR217 do not stall out nearly as much in thick, tall, wet grass. in comparison to our HRC216s. I have cut 3 feet tall grass with my HRR216 to be fair my HRR models are not the ones with the blade stops, but, the hrc216s are.
They made the HRR's with and without the blade stop(aka "roto stop ")
How do they bag grass without clogging up?
Those dogs wanted all the beef @3:26 🤣
Wow!!!! Thank you so much for your video. Have you compared other mowers?
Why the HRX stops all the time? Will it clog? Tall grass?
one lucky dog to have a nice yard to play in
Good test for these mowers.
So here my question. For a lawn care business. Would u recommend the 217 brand new, where i am its 900+tax.
Or the commercial one used. Where i am its 1250.
I’ve had both in the 217 is the one that I still have and even bought an extra engine for because I’d like it so much. The 216 in my opinion is too heavy and doesn’t have enough power.
Bermuda should be cut at 3/4 inch. That is the HOC where you will have a golf course lawn. These Honda's are the only rotary mowers I have found that will cut at 3/4 inch. You will have to cut at least twice a week to keep it there. Obviously doesn't work for you because the last thing you want to do is come home after cutting a dozen lawns and cut your own lawn twice a week. But, @ 3/4 inch you won't have those ugly clumps of grass laying all over your lawn (I see in the next video you have to go back and blow the clippings.) This test is probably a good one for some one who only cuts Bermuda once a week, since it will grow a couple of inches between mowing's. I currently pay someone to mow my grass, but I am wanting to take over since I am now retired and have the time and desire to do a better job. I will need two mowers. A rotary to pick up acorns, and to mow the tall fescue that grows in the shade, and a reel mower to manicure the Bermuda, in full sun, into a golf course lawn. Thanks for taking the time to show these two mowers side by side, because I am going to choose one of them, About a $300 difference between them.
My yard is too bumpy to cut lower than 2”.
If you run a blade spacer instead of stacked blades it will handle the grass even better
What do you use as a blade spacer?
Keep up the good work
Do you prefer the select drive or the cruise control? Why?
the 217 has a carb issue... it is running to lean... raise the float in bowl about 1/16 of an inch. I do not know it there are any hi or lo speed adjustments on carb, but that could help.
Also adjust intake and exhaust .001 more to the loose side. Last but not least switch to Royal Purple 10W 40 HPS oil! Make sure it is HPS not the lower grade of RP.
@David Falgout, he just needs a carb cleaning and to start high go down after one complete pass until he gets to the height he wants.
Can you swap the motors from the 216 to the 217 or are the controls different?
Great video! Thank you! The HRC hasn't been refreshed in many years - do you think we will see an updated HRC? Any chance you think Honda will use a Nexite deck on the HRC?
I doubt they will put the Nexite deck on it but it really would make it lighter and more enjoyable to use.
@@GwinnettLawns the hrx 216 engine will fit on 217 decks
no they won unless someone buys the honda design and built them. Honda has stop making mowers i believe in 2022
Yeah, get you a Lawn-Boy with a 2 stroke (Duraforce or F engine) and it won’t stall at all.
I would love to have one but they have not made them in 40 years.
The 217 gave cleaner mow!
HRC but HEAVY... Gym time when I use mine
probbly forgot put the thottle up at high lol
nah. mine even at full throttle is kind of slow. lots of torque. but slower than my commercial toro.
@@vincentmazziotti7035 I adjusted the RPM to 3800 from 3200 and the thing is an unstoppable best. Honda missed three things to tell people. 1. Sharpen the blades, as the blades come dull 2. Increase RPM to max 3600 or up to 3800 (my preferrence). 3. Change oil to 0W-40 or 10w-40 as 10w-30 is too thin. Read the manual for the engine only not just mow. It really turns on the old light bulb. lol
@@happyyardservice2914 my retailer said this wasn't suggested. do you have a video tutorial or something on how to do this?
@@happyyardservice2914 Yeah I had a 1989 HRC216 and I had the rpms up and it was crazy fast
Wow! I think you just sold me away from Honda. I have a couple old craftsman lawn mowers. One is a 5½ HP, and the other is 6½ HP. . I use them both, mulching leaves and small twigs, along with mowing lawns. Neither one has adjustable speed. I use the 6½ HP. to mow a large lawn of St. Augustine. They like the lawn like a heavy carpet. It's about 4½ to 5 in thick. I use the second from the highest setting. This lawn is in Southern California. Mowing every 10 to 12 Days yields a 1in. to 1½ in. removal. The motor never even slows down. Even before I dethatch the lawn, I remove 2½ in. or more. It never bogs.
My mowers are getting really old. I was thinking of replacing at least one of them with a new Honda. I was curious why their engines have such a small displacement. Especially since they propel the mower, as well as spin the blade.
I am still using the 217 to this day mowing every 5 days or so. Just to be clear, my Bermuda is so thick it would even slow down the Snapper RER I use to use and it had a 12.5 HP engine. So the fact these Hondas could even cut this grass so thick is a miracle.
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This is the first time I seen a Honda mower stall WTF...
My grass will stress many mowers, even the might Honda's.
Well yeah your mulching and all the grass is staying underneath plugging up putting more stress on the motor bag and it wouldn’t be as bad
You dont bag Bermuda so the test would not be relevant. These mowers are designed to mulch just as operated.
The better looking cut = HRC
for some reason it seems the hrx is cutting lower just by looking at the cuts
What height are you cutting at they don't have the same height adjustment.
Both at 2 inches
Gwinnett Lawns The HRC216 sits lower... I know on my mine they do. I put my HRC on Two I’m scalping
@@jessegarcia744 Both of my mowers cut at the exact correct and same height.
Yeah Commercial 21 destroys all the residential mowers, let’s be honest
I've got like 10 commercial mowers and 25 regular ones and I equally like them both as home use are lighter esp HRX217 200CC MOTOR
lol no. I use my hrx217s over all my commercials. I do 25 yards a day. They hold up an easy 5 years without issues. My commercials are always needing adjustments and cables stretching
I’ve never had that problem, sorry you’ve had to deal with that. Mine just gets oil changes and blades sharpened and we are good. We run 3 Commercial Honda’s and one Exmark Commercial 21 X-Series.
Any long term issues with the nexite deck? I just hot a 217 and worried about the deck breaking..
Should’ve fixed the surging issue on the 217 first before doing this. I think it nullifies the results.
Surging at idle has no bearing on it running under a load. Do you even know what causes it to surge??
@@GwinnettLawns dirty or clogged carb jets
@@GwinnettLawns like it or not, I offered my opinion regarding this video. Do you always come in the comments and get s$itty with your viewers? I was subscribed to you prior to this but I’ll unsubscribe and unfollow you from this point on. You should work on your attitude
@@GwinnettLawns Do you always come in the comments to get $hitty with your viewers? Think I’ll unsubscribe from your channel now.
@@jbear7878 nope I was just asking a question because most people don’t have a clue as to why they do that.
Did you have a mulch plug in the HRC? If not then it wasn’t technically a fair test. When the HRX is set to mulch it is an actual mulch. It closes the door to the rear chute. If you don’t have a mulch plug in the HRC then it is rear discharging and it would have more flow. Plus the HRX sounds like it’s not running right.
Yes the plug is always in there.
You can see the mowed grass is by far greener using the hrc meaning the deck height on the hrc is higher. Not a fair comparison.
Sorry your incorrect the heights are the exact same.
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..the 217 seems to be cutting a little lower..
You walked much slower with the commercial. Not an equal comparison lol. Walk faster with commercial it will clog also. Iv done many of these tests myself.
No, I didn’t walk much slower with the commercial. I walked as fast as it would let me.
My Opinion only. That yard is a lot big to be cutting it with a walk-behind mower and one that's only 21in at that.
Its my yard soI do it for fun. Looks best with a 21 because it so bumpy.
@@GwinnettLawns he right don’t care how bumpy I ain’t walking behind that! But yeah walk it out!
Your cutting the yard way to low....
Nope that’s the height you cut Bermuda. Many people around here will cut it even lower.😝
Who tf mows like this? Besides the ridiculous fact that you're trying to mulch that, by what you said, you're cutting more than 50% off while trying to mulch. The grass looked better before, try keeping it at 4"
This is Bermuda you NEVER cut it that high. Bermuda like to be low. Greens back up with 48 hrs again.