This INCREDIBLE Guitar Does Something I've NEVER Seen Before!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2023
- Traditional guitar on the front - advanced engineering on the back!
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It doesn't look like it should be able to do that...but it does!
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@DarrellBraunGuitar bro Have you listened to famous Indian singer Arijit Singh ? Pls as my best advisor tell me which kind of pickup would be best for his romantic songs plssssssssss
Eh!
Does it need extra long strings?
don’t you mean ‘is’ ?
@@FenceThis WHO are you talking to?
When I was in college, I had an idea very similar to this, for a project we had to design a music product and so I designed something similar to this I even made diagrams, so cool to see something be made like this!
Thanks much!
I've half prototyped a travel guitar that fits in a 2 ft by 2 inch by 4 inch wide box with room for bits and bobs. I may post the design on a channel I have at some point. The body slides out from under the neck and there are 2 clip-on sides stored under the remainder of the neck. It's quite comfortable to use sitting or standing - a mini flying V. The prototype features a sliding tuner in a hollow body so the strings don't flap around and get kinked when it's packed away.
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The new design has a spindle+tuner+whammy in one instead but will be difficult for me to make. The pickup is loose but sits on the body which has a metal plate in it and can be slid around as it's magnetically attached. Pickup is connected by thin wire with 3.5mm jack plug to the bridge that houses tone and volume knobs... Simple bolt used to fully tighten the strings after sliding the neck out for use. I discarded the folding design early in the design process for a few good reasons.
If I was flying with a guitar there is no doubt this is what I’d gig with. Makes perfect sense and you can get all different PUPs coil splits etc .. they’ll build what you want.
Thanks a TON for the review @Darrell Braun! We appreciate your enthusiasm for what we're building here at Ciari Guitars. Nothing worth doing is easy, but it's extremely rewarding to see the growing chorus of believers after they try it. You Rock!
Do you need to have that big hole for the strings to go through the back, or would it work with regular string eyelets?
Congratulations for the amazing feat of engineering! Kudos for you and the whole team take made this crazy marvel possible!🎉
Do you guys think it’s ever going to be possible to do this with a bass or baritone guitar?
It's a great guitar and great bit of engineering gone into it.
It seems like a travel-ish guitar but the big body makes it maybe a bit cumbersome for the average everyday guitar player who might be taking buses or riding a bicycle etc. But one with a much smaller body would be perfect for that sort of player. A body a bit bigger than a hofner shorty would be perfect.
I guess now you have the folding mechanism perfected, there are all sorts of possibilities.
It's a nice looking guitar and the chunky body looks cool (I like electric guitars with chunky bodies)
That's an incredible guitar I'd have no use for 😂
It’s not for everyone, and that’s fine, however for those who want stress free mobility (especially for airplanes) and yet stage quality, there’s now an answer with our Ascender. Pro guitars are loving it for fly dates, radio tours, tuck away on the tour bus, and mobile producing and song writing. Even if you’re not playing on stages, it’s still an ever present friend when you’re on the move. If you’re ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action, and try one in our Artist Lounge. We’d be happy to host you! Jonathan Spangler CEO & Inventor Ciari Guitars
I would't, either, but I want one!
It would be nice to have a cover for the mechanism on the back that can be easily installed and removed. I'm thinking, for those that would keep the guitar setup for any length of time and to protect the mechanism.
How easy is it to replace the strings? @@JonathanSpangler
Lol, me too! 😂
@@victormarinelli5660 Jonathan is traveling today, but I'll jump in. String changes are very easy. You just feed the strings through the Actuator, around the front, over the bridge and nut to the locking tuners. The Ascender uses regular strings. -Eric Sands VP of Sales and Marketing
I love how you seem to find all these unusual, unconventional, and technologically advanced guitars!
The companies contact him and pay him to review them. That's how he finds them
Looks cool, but, as a luthier myself, I question the viability of the guitar and its folding functionality over years of play. What is a method of setup when it needs it, or fretting? How are the strings changed, and how much of a hassle is that? It is a good concept, but the durability and repairability remain in question.
I like the way the lever that tightens the strings has a metal piece that slides up into the neck and locks it in place at the same time
That thing sounds FANBLEEPINTASTIC! Even through my laptop speakers. That is a very good 'one size fits all' guitar, the clean tones are bright enough to cover single coil territory and it does't just sound like an LP copy.
Thx much! It has been a fun, though challenging, journey to weather the pandemic and now have our Ascender gaining traction - for pro guitarists on stages worldwide - and also us mere mortals 🤣. If you’re ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action and try an Ascender in our Artist Lounge. We’d be happy to host you! Jonathan Spangler CEO & Inventor, Ciari Guitars
Looking at the thumbnail: it crushes cans?
Crazy great idea. I really like seeing innovation that works without hindering function. I love traditional and modern guitars, and love blending old and new. Really like the concept of this guitar. Way better than most travel guitars. Now if they did a bass version that would be great.
Certainly an interesting concept for pro guitar players moving around. Just like to congratulate you Darrell.. you have excellent presentation, voice, timing, research and playing. I have no doubt any guitar manufacturer would be over the moon to receive a decent review from you. I can imagine you are a fantastic teacher as well. Much appreciated and many thanks. 🙏🙏
Been looking for a traveler and this might be just what I’m looking for🎸
Even if it didn't do that goofy fold up, I would buy it, I love the body shape. Sounds great to.
Thank you! We appreciate that!
Fender mustang body
It's literally designed as a professional, airplane friendly guitar! That's the whole point of this guitar! Maybe they make a similar looking model if you don't need to travel with it?
Great to what?
Great presentation on a very cool instrument!
Very cool! This isn’t just a folding guitar that happens to be a decent instrument. This is an incredible guitar that happens to fold. I LOVE the look of the guitar, folding mechanism aside. A really cool body shape.
I think that's a really good idea. I've seen other guitars where the strings stay attached to the headstock when you dis-assemble the neck. But I think on those, the neck just flops about when it's dis-assembled. The engineering in this one seems first rate and I can see the (aluminium??) knuckle joint lasting a long time and being pretty reliable. Of course only time will tell how long it lasts without wear on the pins. But I suppose, if the brand hangs around, if the knuckle joint does go bad, you can take the neck completely apart and attach a new knuckle joint block - thingy???? Wonder how long the flatness of the frets will last? A re-fret would be a headscratch! Mind you, no room for a tremolo unless you get a Bigsby or a Kahler or something. Looks lovely as well. Like it!
Vibes like a Gretsch to my eye, sounds terrific. And then there's that other thing. Definitely something I'd love to add to my collection!
Cool review thanks! Ciari Ascender looks like the perfect light travelling / busking / bug out (fire, storm, earthquake) guitar and priced very affordably considering the pull down technology and pickups involved. The body and headstock design are nicely evocative and clean.
Genius..Love it!..Great review💯 Thanks Darrell!
You're too kind and agreed re: Darrell's review - it's great to see someone who shares our enthusiasm for our Ascender!
The guitar that bends over backwards for you!
They should've put a magnetic cover for the back
@DarrellBraunGuitar...-. I bet it's a Relish guitar. I couldn't remember their name when I commented but they are who I was thinking of for the magnetic back cover
Aye! Reminds me of the "Rolls Razor" my father had in the 40s and 50s ...
Nice, thorough review by Darrell! I've seen that Helen Ibe plays one, and was curious about it.
So cool. I needed one of these last week 🎉
Yeah I need it in 2 weeks but I sure don’t have a spare 1800 lying around rn
Awesome innovation & design!!
The big question that everyone would wonder with such a guitar, is how well does it stay in tune when you fold and unfold? I presume the locking tuners do their job keeping the string length exact but it there any variance at the rollers in the body, or squeaking etc?
This is really crazy! I would totally rock this if I was traveling a lot. Get that and something like the Fractal FM9 or 3. All you need!
Thanks much! If you're ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action, and try an Ascender in our Artist Lounge. We'd love to host you!
Well that's one hell of a airplane friendly guitar! That and a pedal amp sim (maybe some headphones and a laptop for good measure).... and you could literally fly anywhere and play a show (or keep working on an album) with a vast and complex array of pretty high quality, professional level guitar sounds.....We live in interesting times! Well done! 🎸
The first review I ever saw you do was the Relish. Always on top of the latest cutting edge developments.
I just bought a brand new Relish Trinity for £349! The company went bust and an English company in Ormskirk bought up loads of their Trinity guitars plus pickups, and are selling them for almost a 1/3rd of the original price!
I’ll prob get one someday. I use my Journey les Paul with removable neck a ton. This is a big step up. Once you get used to throwing an electric in your backpack it’s hard to live without!
Wow that's pretty cool; having a travel able full size guitar, 3/4 size is nice but that is looking nice.
Are you gonna do DBG guitar picks for merch? That would be swell
I've half prototyped a travel guitar that fits in a 2ft by 2 inch by 4 inch wide box with room for bits and bobs. I may post the design on a channel I have at some point. The body slides out from under the neck and there are 2 clip-on sides stored under the remainder of the neck. It's quite comfortable to use sitting or standing - a mini flying V. The prototype features a sliding tuner in a hollow body so the strings don't flap around and get kinked when it's packed away.
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The new design has a spindle+tuner+whammy in one instead but will be difficult for me to make. The pickup is loose but sits on the body which has a metal plate in it and can be slid around as it's magnetically attached. Pickup is connected by thin wire with 3.5mm jack plug to the bridge that houses tone and volume knobs.
The guitar is $1800.00 USD I was expecting a thousand more. The shipping is free ....even internationally.
The guitar looks great. Even if it was a conventional guitar they nailed a great look. It looks like some classic 50's guitar prototype that didn't get made. The sound is very impressive clean and clear. It has nice tight yet noticeably punchy lows that caught me by surprise. 10 out of 10!!!
The range is $1599 to $4899. Plus “custom quotes” if you’d like to spend more.😅
Thx soooo much🙏! It’s been a long hard road to buck convention but we’re thrilled with the critical mass taking shape as more and more artists adopt our Ascender and great reviews like this one help het it in front of more people who may need and/or want it. If you’re ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action, and try an Ascender in our Artist Lounge. We’d love to host you! Jonathan Spangler CEO & Inventor Ciari Guitars
@@JonathanSpanglerAs you know I could never get financial support for you from my investor friends here on the east coast US. Glad to see you are still alive and kicking after the sheer insanity of 2020.
Yeah, that's pretty reasonabley priced for what it is.
Amazing See how much you like folding it over and over with the smile make me smile watching.
That's cool ! These guys must be really smart . Really well shot video and great job explaining the guitar 👍 .
Thank you @davegass1650! I'd say our strength is taking action and then refining with the input of industry leaders to ensure we're hitting the mark on instrument quality, first and foremost, as no one wants another guitar gimmick. Some will bristle at that, however, given that our Ascenders are now being played on stages worldwide by touring artists, this is how we view our Ascender: It's not a great travel guitar, it's a great guitar that travels! If you're ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action, and try an Ascender in our Artist Lounge. We'd love to host you!
@@JonathanSpangler Thank you so much 👍 . Keep up the great work .
love the engineering. i'd also love to see somebody change a string in a live situation 😄
And tuning stability as well.
Looks and sounds great, I was very surprised when he folded the neck back at first haha. Would love to see a tremolo version
I would love to see it open my beers for me too.
Love to see companies still innovating
This is the first foldable guitar that I would ever consider even looking at to buy. Thanks for the great review.
The extra cavity on the back is actually where you store treats for the drummer when he does a good job.
Super cool. Carry-on electric that sounds and plays great. Don’t have to worry about overhead bin or gate checking it. Throw a toothbrush/deodorant in the gig bag with a set of strings and a shirt/underwear/socks and it’s time to go! Love it. Very reasonable price for what it is + build quality/components.
Agreed - fantastic concept very well executed!
I saw one these guitars in action three weeks ago. Elvis Costello was playing one. It sounded really good and at the end of the gig he folded it, tucked it under his arm and left the stage.
Is this a fake Darrell Braun, by any chance? Have to be careful these days.
Heck yeah! That’s an awesome instrument.
That clear acrylic piece in the back should be a good spot to put some dense foam between it and the strings. I'd guess there's a lot of sympathetic ringing in that guitar, so it's probably necessary if you want to play high-gain or record with it.
Love these guitars!!!
That sounds great!
You are absolutely correct, finish the cavity and string passage slot.
This is the first real review I have seen of this unit that wasn't by Ciari themselves. Awesome concept and even better execution. When you consider the amount of R&D that went into making this unit as professional grade as it is the price isn't that outlandish really. Great review thanks.
Ciari has been trying to get this guitar off the ground at NAMM for a long time now. The engineering is actually pretty remarkable and at a price point that isn’t taking advantage of customers. I’ve been very surprised not to see any footage as a true review/demo besides RUclipsrs quickly passing by their booth at NAMM and showing it. It made it feel like a novelty more than a serious guitar.
As amazing a price point this guitar is for all that goes into making them and being made in the US with an included plek, I also hope they’ll eventually manage to come up with a version that costs half - like a budget model for people who only occasionally travel with a guitar and just need an option that isn’t quite as robust. Perhaps a thinner body (assuming the components fit) would lighten the weight up even more and reduce costs for the customer. Or maybe they should consider making bodies that are made out of alternative materials that won’t cost a fortune, will be plenty durable and lighter in weight, and will still sound great - like sheet metal (I saw a really cool guitar made from a folded sheet of metal and movable magnetic pickups recently), 3D printed bodies, etc. Again, for a US made guitar that comes with a plek, the price is more than fair. Overall, I think most people would be cool with buying an overseas made version at a fraction of the price so long as it’s done at a really reputable factory like World Music - an optional plek for a few bucks more would still be nice, but overall, I think most people would rather save money and would buy one from overseas even if there was no plek option. I really can see many more people buying this guitar if it cost less, and as much as I love American made, the reality is that most of us can’t afford the price tag that comes alongside it. Making a budget friendly one will translate to so many more sale. If they can make the price point somewhere around $599-$699 (don’t forget that both the labor and raw materials overseas cost MUCH less, so this suggested price point is perfectly realistic), they’d be selling thousands of them around the world - especially if they can get big stores like Sweetwater and Thomman to carry and help advertise them, as well as shops where people can test drive in person them risk free.
I really keep hoping Ciari gets this into more hands of RUclipsrs for in depth reviews after they’ve spent time with it. I think more people would buy a Ciari if they knew it existed - from pros who just want something easy to take on a plane as a carry on to the average strummer going on a big vacation or long weekend with their family. The guitar looks and sounds great. But a budget overseas version really needs to happen if they really want to make their brand a success.
Thanks much @killacoiler1707. We've focused heavily on R&D, especially during the pandemic when we know we had to come out with a lower price point model. Those efforts are now paying dividends, but admittedly our marketing efforts have lagged our engineering efforts. You'll be seeing a lot more reviews in the near term, as well as some pretty fun milestones on the horizon (spoiler: Our Ascender is scheduled to go to space soon....yep, I said it...and it's trippy even for me to utter those words). If you're ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action, and try an Ascender in our Artist Lounge. We'd love to host you!
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@@JonathanSpangler i live in Indiana so it isn't too far of a travel to get to Nashville. I will have to take you up on that invite at some point.
Very cool and a convincing concept ...
Thanks a lot for demoing this great axe
@DarrellBraunGuitar...-.
OK ... ??? Spam or real ?
really interesting concept!
I've spent some time looking for a travel guitar. So far the one that ticks almost all the boxes for me are Moov guitars, I'm very tempted but they only do acoustics BUT they come in 7 and 8 strings. Blessed be the algorithm that showed me this video.
I'd love a bass like that to take on my backpack to work to play on lunch break 😊
Hey Darrell. Can you adjust the action? And does it have locking tuners to minimise "lost" string length since so much more is needed at the other end as they pass over the rollers? As long as it takes standard length strings....
Can you maybe use a smaller aperture (higher number, like 8 or 11) setting on your camera, to keep that autofocus in check? Your videos are great, but that constant autofocus is really annoying. Either use a different aperture setting or disable that autofocus and use two cameras (one on you and the other on the guitar)? Anyway, great video and great guitar!
I want one of these as a bass VI so bad it’s almost criminal.
When he showed the diamonds holding the strings in place... Some of them were out of place. 🤣
Yeah, I noticed that too - it can happen but it’s super easy to remedy. Simply straighten the neck and then gently fold while watch to ensure the strings are aligned with the V-grooves (diamonds). I recommend folding while the guitar is facing you so you can see that straight on. As soon as the strings fall into the diamonds in the 14th fret joint, they’ll automatically fall into the diamonds in the 12th fret joint. If you’re ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop and chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action, and try an Ascender in our Artist Lounge. We’d be happy to host you! Jonathan Spangler CEO & Inventor Ciari Guitars
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Oh, wow. It's the mad scientist himself. 🤣👍
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FYI, your website doesn't give any information about a shop/store and Google Maps doesn't have the location either.
Did you notice any severe ringing of those short strings at the front and the back of the bridge? F.e. when playing short notes do they keep on ringing?
Wait, you didn’t fold or unfold the neck while it was plugged in? I bet you can get some really cool sounds doing that!
I use a Steinberger headless as a “travel “ guitar. Would love to see this neck on one of them. Tiny body and really compact.
That is crazy clever and inventive! Probably the best travel guitar design I’ve ever seen. BTW, love your guitar reviews, and so do the folks at Rubato, who told me when I ordered my new Lassie (after receiving and building a Strat with their neck), that your review has generated a lot of sales for them.
Thanks much @stickman55110! We set out to elevate the travel guitar segment with our Ascender - although, as we now view it, the Ascender isn't a great travel guitar...it's a great guitar that travels:). If you're ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action, and try an Ascender in our Artist Lounge. We'd love to host you!
@@JonathanSpangler Thank you so much, Jonathan. I will absolutely take you up on your tour offer the next time I’m in Nashville or can make an excuse to go there! Appreciate the direct response, and will definitely consider purchasing one.
Very interesting and innovative design. I was wondering what as required in changing strings. Looks like a pita.
When i saw this guitar, i immediately thought about a Virtual Jeff Pro but then i saw how the strings block the area where the VJP needs to be placed on the guitar.
What material was used to make the neck joint ?
How is the wood part of the neck attached to the hinge ?
Are the strings a special length ?
Amazing, a practical electric guitar.
I feel like fixing fret buzz (esp around 12th fret) and adjusting neck relief would be a nightmare.
Cool thing! But how does it hold the strings in place at the fold?? Seems like it could easily roll of the fretboard at the fold.
I’m wondering if while you’re playing, you can reach around to the back and grab the lever and ever so slightly wiggle it like a trem bar?!
That really is an incredible guitar! 🙂
That’s pretty cool!
Wow. It's fantastic
Impressive Engineering! 👍
How good is the intonation after repeated flexing of neck, strings? Stays in tune?
4:02 How does that gap in the neck feel when you play up around the 12th frets? Looks like a thumb could break or get sprained in that gap.
Wow! What an amazing guitar. I know it has lockable tuners. But with folding the neck like that, will that stretch and cause the strings to go out of tune with the rapid change in tension?
Ya Darrel. Max Carlisle reviewed that guitar a few months ago. It's pretty amazing. It's great to have your opinion on it also. Thx. Think I'm going to get one. Now that you have confirmed it's quality.
I may have missed it - but does this stay in tune relatively well after folding up/down?
Interesting. Often thought about it. Always thought of flipping the neck forward...
I'd love an A/B sustain without compression or Overdrive between that and a classic neck
Does a locking pin secure the neck hinge when locked or is the neck just held by string tension?
How is the string change on it? It doesn't look like it would be easy.
Tuning stability? Is it in tune when you latch it? And you didn't tell us much about the nut setup or ease of string changing.
That’s sick!
Thanks! We think so too. :^)
So how do you change strings? Do they have to be extra long?
Really cool guitar
If Hendrix was here, I'm sure that he would love that guitar. I'd love to hear him play it. 👍👍👍
I'd love a photo of Jimi with our guitar.
Yes, that would be very sweet. 😻 Could you just imagine the sounds he'd create with it? 🎸🎸🎸@@ciariguitars
Wonder if you have ever reviewed a River Song guitar? Thanks for posting
Seems like a tuning nightmare but very cool and ingenious engineering. I wonder if the magnets in the back affect the tone.
Tone magnets???!!!😂😂😂😂
Thank you! The Ascender stays very close to in-tune after unfolding it. Only fine-tuning is necessary. The small magnets only help to keep the neck in place when folded.
@@ciariguitars I know Les Pauls never stay in tune because of the headstock design and the roller system looks similar to the horrible one on traveler guitars. I feel he really should have addressed tuning stability in a big way in this video.
It is easy to tune and stays in tune. I own one.
@@ciariguitarsIs there any reason - other than aesthetics - for the guitar not having a magnetic back cover for the whole mechanism?
Would be good to know how strings are swapped in this one.
I have a few questions: 1. When you fold and then unfold the neck, do the strings stay in tune? 2. How easy/hard is it to replace a string on this guitar 3. Do you think the constant folding/unfolding would put strain on the strings and shorten their life? 4. Is this guitar available in other pickup configurations such as 3 single coils? 5.what kind of warranty does the manufacturer offer?
Amazing!
What about the tunig after unfolding it back? I think the tuning should be reviewed as well. Great engineering! There are a few things to improve but indeed this a wonderful build.
There’s a couple videos showcasing how well this stays in tune when it’s folded and unfolded etc, it’s pretty insane how well it stays in tune
How did you get that lead guitar solo sound (tone) at the begining of the jam? What FX is it? chorus, reverb or pitch shifter or what?
So does the truss rod react similar to a standard neck and does it only react to the wooden part of the neck?
Cool guitar, and not ridiculously expensive. What string gauge did you use, and did you notice anything unusual with the string tension, given its extra long string length due to the folding string mechanism? Thanks
Thx and great question @pickalot1! Our Ascenders come with D'Addario NYXL 10-46s, although you can use any other brand, no problem. We didn't want to force our customers to use custom strings, but rather whatever they normally play. So, in other words, they're standard length and not extra-long. Again, great question. Thanks for the opportunity to explain more about our Ascender. If you're ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek in action, and try an Ascender in our Artist Lounge. We'd love to host you!
Most of all, sound is really great
Imagine being at a party and the look on people's faces as you got your back turned to them putting on the shoulder strap, plugging in the amp, turn it on and you turn around and all the sudden you unfold the neck and instantly start jamming when the drummer does a 4 count!
LoL Awesome 😁😎
Nice Darrel --a folding neck guitar --brilliant idea --- great for constant travellers --suitcase axe ---where is the best site to purchase ---Amazon ?
Any problems with staying in tune ( after a few fold ups ) ?
The main question we all would like to be answered in the video... all the rest is just shenanigans
Thx for the question and opportunity to explain more about our Ascender. The funny thing is that, the more you fold, the closer and closer it will come back to perfect or playable tuning for play. That’s because the strings settle in, much like they do when you put new strings on your traditional (non folding) guitar. We don’t experience string breakage at any greater or different rate that a traditional guitar. Some customers say they get more mileage from the strings on their Ascender BECAUSE it folds, given that it’s typically stored in the folded state and thus have overall less sustained tension on the strings over time. If you’re ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek machine in action, and try one out in our Artist Lounge - we’d love to host you! Jonathan Spangler CEO Ciari Guitars
@@davidfmgonzalezThx for the comment. Please see my response to the other commenter here on this topic. In short, the tuning is super stable and string breakage isn’t any different than traditional (non-folding) guitars. If you’re ever in Nashville, please stop by our shop, chat with our luthiers, see our Plek machine in action, and try one out in our Artist Lounge - we’d love to host you! Jonathan Spangler CEO Ciari Guitars
Big thanks Jonathan . I'm on the Canadian West coast but if I ever get back to Nashville , will do ! @@JonathanSpangler
I'm curious on how well it holds tune when its been folded?
How do you change strings ? Can you change out the the pickups?