I've NEVER Seen ANYTHING Like This Before!!

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  • @DarrellBraunGuitar
    @DarrellBraunGuitar  Год назад +118

    Would you guys ever rock a neck like this? Let me know!
    Enjoy :)

    • @ordinaryperson9472
      @ordinaryperson9472 Год назад +6

      I'd definetly try

    • @tallgremlin
      @tallgremlin Год назад +2

      I’d try this

    • @richhansen8874
      @richhansen8874 Год назад +11

      Nah. Pretty much lost me at the tuning differentials. Other than that, it's cool!

    • @montauta
      @montauta Год назад +2

      I can't believe you don't know temperament frets.

    • @stanphillips7277
      @stanphillips7277 Год назад +2

      I'll try anything but, I'm considering the guitar players who influenced me. Take Jimmy Page. He made beautiful music to say the least and always in tune up and down the neck whether it was a Tele or double neck SG or of course a Les Paul.
      So I'm not good enough to need anything intonated more perfectly than a well intonated standard fretted neck.
      Having said that, sure I'd love to play it just because it's a guitar neck that sparks my curiosity. Just as I've played 7 string guitars . I've had plenty of fun playing a 6 string with normal frets. I just don't have the need for perfect intonation to such an extent as this one. I feel like the difference is so miniscule to the ear that I wouldn't want to have to tune it in a different way than what I'm used to.
      It does make for a great conversation starter amongst other guitarist. "lemme check it out, what the...." Right?
      Outside of that I think I have a bit of a resentment against the company for giving you a bit of a run around enough so that you had to warn your subscribers 🤣
      Thanks for showing us that it _plays_ much better than it looks like it should. I thought it would be trickier to play and nobody needs another obstacle right Darrel? The journey presents us with plenty of those to begin with huh man ✌️❤️🎸🎶🙏

  • @dalgguitars
    @dalgguitars Год назад +444

    I think a side by side comparison with sound samples would be a good idea. I didn't hear you say anything about it playing in tune much better. It seems like that's the whole point of the product. Thanks for all your videos!

    • @stanphillips7277
      @stanphillips7277 Год назад +10

      If there's a difference I don't know if it would be so much better intonated to bother with the tuning issue anyway.
      Page, Hendrix, Clapton, Gilmore etc ... they're doing fine and if you played along with those guys and you _were_ better intonated you'd sound off slightly right?
      It is a nice conversation starter though!
      I really thought it would present problems in playing. So that was surprising.
      I know James Taylor tunes differently than most for the same reason but, if I'm in tune on a well intonated guitar I'm good 😂
      ✌️❤️🎸🎶🙏

    • @madmat6502
      @madmat6502 Год назад +12

      Although I think just intonation sounds better, even-tempered intonation is a lot easier to manufacture (straight frets) so much music is made on even-tempered instruments it SOUNDS in-tune to us.

    • @user-zb5lg7bm4p
      @user-zb5lg7bm4p Год назад

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    • @scwebb
      @scwebb Год назад +6

      I thought the same thing. Paul Davids played one of these a while ago and was really surprised by it and thought the sound would take some getting used to. Darrell doesn’t mentions the sound of it at all. Would love to hear a side-by-side.

    • @officialWWM
      @officialWWM Год назад +2

      Could you not hear it yourself?

  • @philmazzie3674
    @philmazzie3674 Год назад +28

    Let's give our boy Darrell some likes to recoup for that insanely high price for that neck. Thank you for the honest info.

    • @user-zb5lg7bm4p
      @user-zb5lg7bm4p Год назад

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    • @CRAZYCANUCKTV
      @CRAZYCANUCKTV Год назад

      What a scammer like you who couldn't even spell guitar correctly lol

    • @uncleremus64
      @uncleremus64 Год назад +1

      Licensed Fender replacement necks around $350. These necks $600-650. Not comparable in price IMO.

    • @216trixie
      @216trixie Год назад

      @@uncleremus64 who said they were comparable?

    • @uncleremus64
      @uncleremus64 Год назад

      @@216trixie Uh, Darrell @ 2:39

  • @bridgetpollock6760
    @bridgetpollock6760 Год назад +6

    You are so nice even when you are critiquing. Good for you Darrell!

  • @LonlyYeti0312
    @LonlyYeti0312 Год назад

    I would love to see a video about what you need to setup your guitar to a Pc and accessories, software etc.

  • @Mix3dbyMark
    @Mix3dbyMark Год назад +4

    WOuld be nice to see a side by side comparison through a tuner

  • @proektrawwi
    @proektrawwi Год назад +1

    В этом грифе есть положительный момент ! Бэнды получаются красивее.

  • @1972Georges
    @1972Georges Год назад +2

    Steve Vai got guitars with that tretting.

  • @GuillermoSmyser
    @GuillermoSmyser Год назад

    I had a Warmoth body and neck with these TT frets. They don't feel any different than regular frets. And you don't really notice the sound unless you're just letting chords ring out and you wanna hear extra high harmonic notes that come from things being so in tune with each other.
    I ultimately sold the guitar when I needed the money, no fault of its own. Would love to find it again.
    Bought through Warmoth but also had issues. The frets ended up gold without me asking. But it matched the rest of the guitar so maybe they assumed I'd like that. It was fine other than the gold scratched off after not a lot of string bending.

  • @wyattstephans1718
    @wyattstephans1718 Год назад +2

    6 months is a long time to wait for a neck, but where the heck else are you going to get something like this?! It’s pretty wild. I’ve been playing a long time and I’ve never seen anything like it.

    • @johnmark7777
      @johnmark7777 Год назад +1

      For me, it was worth the wait. I love this neck.

  • @jrodthompson7454
    @jrodthompson7454 Год назад

    "Ur not tuned to my intonation homey 😖"

  • @pwkimbrell-yt
    @pwkimbrell-yt Год назад

    It's an interesting concept but the suggestion to slightly alter the tuning to +/- on various strings seems to render the whole process as an exercise in futility.

  • @jethro_bardot
    @jethro_bardot Год назад +294

    Thanks, I hate it. This is an acid flashback. Somebody built the guitar that my kid drew. My scoliosis is cured.

    • @theboilupofficial1099
      @theboilupofficial1099 Год назад +8

      Funniest and best comment I have read in years.

    • @tomi-jon8798
      @tomi-jon8798 Год назад +3

      Lol check out if drawings by children were real...so disturbing

    • @p.h.bridegroom4142
      @p.h.bridegroom4142 Год назад +2

      OK BOOMER

    • @jethro_bardot
      @jethro_bardot Год назад +5

      @@p.h.bridegroom4142 films his wife with other men.

    • @cvspvr
      @cvspvr Год назад

      your comment reads like a sseth tzeentach review

  • @lokarrsboots9337
    @lokarrsboots9337 Год назад +229

    This video would benefit from a part 2 where you actually show why this even exists. Especially in comparison with a normal guitar: The problematic chords, the fact that sweetened tunings work best in certain areas but can't fix the whole fretboard, and if this true temperament frets actually fix those problems completely.

    • @thomasdundon4093
      @thomasdundon4093 Год назад +19

      Totally agree. That should have been the first thing mentioned, i.e. that standard frets are based on equal temperament (just like a piano), but are compromised by things like varying string thickness, wound vs solid string (that's why the G string part of the TT frets are particularly curvy), and stretching of the string as you press down (something Evertune also compensates for). If you've ever wondered why your open E chord sounds great, but open D sounds squirrelly, then you know why True Temperament exists.

    • @deathbydeviceable
      @deathbydeviceable Год назад +4

      Imagine the bends 🤣. It'll sound like autotune
      Edit; I guess not 😔

    • @leinonibishop9480
      @leinonibishop9480 Год назад +4

      since you have to tune some of the open strings slightly off to make it work, it still won't be a perfectly in tune neck unless you never play any open strings.

    • @kiyanharchegani2588
      @kiyanharchegani2588 Год назад +1

      multi scale guitars must terrify you then. i play a tempered 29-26 scale and its barely noticeable going from regular frets to this. 3 minutes to adjust.

    • @deathbydeviceable
      @deathbydeviceable Год назад

      @@kiyanharchegani2588 yeah? really? uh huh

  • @minkorrh
    @minkorrh Год назад +4

    What makes me kind of laugh is this sort of thing is typical of he times we live in.
    I have one question, and that is "Why?"
    OK. Intonation. I doubt anyone other than the person playing it would even care.

    • @notonyourlife7939
      @notonyourlife7939 Год назад

      Yeah... this is definitely in the "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" category. 🤣👍

  • @09Dragonite
    @09Dragonite Год назад +33

    It is a little wild how few people have been exposed to true temperament. I was first exposed to these in high school almost a decade ago, and it has really changed a lot about my perception of musical quality for stringed instruments. It seemed weird, but it makes a lot of logical sense and even more theoretical sense when you think about fretless strings like the violin and cello.
    The more I listen to you playing, the better I can tell that your intonation is absolutely on point. Ngl, it is really convincing me that I'd prefer true temperament. The chords alone are out of this world just being 100% in tune with no pitch issues. It is so incredibly pleasing to the ear.

    • @Cpmnk
      @Cpmnk Год назад

      Ikr, there nothing new, and everyone here is freaking out

    • @KP-by4eu
      @KP-by4eu 11 месяцев назад +2

      it makes sense if you play classical music. It doesn't make sense when you play electric guitar with other electric guitar players who don't have this system. Then you're the only one who sounds off.

    • @frossbog
      @frossbog Месяц назад

      @@KP-by4eu It really doesn't make much sense at all. None of the great classical and jazz guitarists ever needed this and I figure I don't either.

    • @bganzer3997
      @bganzer3997 23 дня назад

      Its very interesting. I wonder how it will sound together with another guitar that is in standard intonation. And how it will sound with voice!

  • @VelkePivo
    @VelkePivo Год назад +6

    Did I miss you saying the intonation was better or not?

  • @aldersmoke1
    @aldersmoke1 Год назад +116

    It would seem that a huge potential downside to this would be that anyone you play with would also have to have a true tempered neck, or else they wouldn't be in tune with you. Guitars with straight frets don't have perfect intonation, but we're used to that. What's almost more crucial is that everybody's instrument has the same definition of what any given pitch is.

    • @madmat6502
      @madmat6502 Год назад +3

      There are keyboards that can be switched to just intonation, but it's still pretty rare. ;)

    • @notonyourlife7939
      @notonyourlife7939 Год назад +11

      Yup... if you tried to play twin harmony lines with one of these things, and the other guy was playing on a traditional neck, the "prefect intonation" is gonna clash with the imperfect intonation, and it would get ugly quick, lol

    • @user-zb5lg7bm4p
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    • @TheRealDealBobbySteele
      @TheRealDealBobbySteele Год назад +3

      It’s ugly looks like an elementary art class made it😂

    • @CerealDust-nStuff
      @CerealDust-nStuff Год назад +2

      This came out over a decade ago.

  • @markkenward7040
    @markkenward7040 Год назад +2

    Do you have to change setup at the bridge?

    • @user-zb5lg7bm4p
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  • @richardclark.
    @richardclark. Год назад +1

    Gimmick. Are all my other guitars wrong now? And they want me to retune? Yeah, because they jacked the frets. And if you are bending you are putting the note in the right spot anyway. Most decent players are doing this all the time, even on chords, without even thinking about it. This just seems like a huge pain. Lol.

    • @user-zb5lg7bm4p
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  • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
    @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 Год назад +29

    Appreciate the honesty dude, most would’ve just said how great it was and fail to mention the buying experience, good man

  • @alexander_winston
    @alexander_winston Год назад +4

    Whoa! I need to chill with the ‘shrooms. That neck is moving around like its alive. Help.

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder Год назад +1

    3:52 - BUT if you’ve already “predrilled“ the neck before you’ve even taken the original neck off then the chances of them being exactly the same is pretty slim!!
    Surely you doing things backwards or am I missing something…?

  • @andrewjackson9417
    @andrewjackson9417 Год назад +14

    My question is: is there really any advantage to this over a good regular neck?

    • @notonyourlife7939
      @notonyourlife7939 Год назад +5

      If you have both perfect pitch and galloping OCD, then yes. 🤣. Otherwise, no... plus, it's worth noting that it's a huge misconception that stainless frets don't wear at all. They do... just a lot slower than regular frets. But eventually those would need some (probably minor) leveling and re-crowning, and good luck finding anybody to do it for you, lol

    • @andrewjackson9417
      @andrewjackson9417 Год назад +1

      @@notonyourlife7939 To be honest I'm not convinced it does anything.

    • @notonyourlife7939
      @notonyourlife7939 Год назад +5

      @@andrewjackson9417 Those with perfect pitch will notice... because they notice everything, lol... frankly I can't imagine a worse existence, but I digress. There really is no reason for these things...properly set-up traditional necks have worked just fine forever. And unless you're gonna outfit your entire band with these ridiculous things, you'll never play in tune with each other again. 🤣

    • @andrewjackson9417
      @andrewjackson9417 Год назад +2

      @@notonyourlife7939 Every time you depress a string you bend it a little, so you pull it out of pitch. It's how the human hand works, so worrying about perfect intonation is ridiculous. BTW, I think we're on the same page here.

    • @notonyourlife7939
      @notonyourlife7939 Год назад +1

      @@andrewjackson9417 Oh absolutely... this thing is silly.🤣👍

  • @deweyoogwey
    @deweyoogwey Год назад +4

    Now have this plus the scalloped neck

  • @user-of9ut1hd9q
    @user-of9ut1hd9q Год назад +7

    I’m more surprised you’ve never seen the true temperament neck prior more than anything

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    • @ESP77769
      @ESP77769 Год назад +1

      These necks have been around for decades.

  • @bmac1205
    @bmac1205 Год назад +4

    Does it do what it is supposed to do for intonation?

  • @dt2165
    @dt2165 Год назад +2

    It's ridiculous IMHO.

  • @hakanaxlund4316
    @hakanaxlund4316 Год назад +2

    Hi Darrel, thanks for your videos. I think you do a great job.
    However, in this vid I think you missed the point. The whole idea with TT is to get a better intonation all over the neck and all over all keys. Try your thirds in all chords in different keys. That’s where you get your money back with this neck. If you’re a player who don’t necessarily care for or hear when chords are not in pitch then you shouldn’t bother. I heard on your playing a significant overall improved intonation.
    So it would have been educational if you had gotten a little bit more in to that.
    Anyhow, thanks again for a great channel. 👍🏻

  • @ghaus1961
    @ghaus1961 Год назад +3

    Lol I bet if you played that guitar live at a gig , that would probably screw somebody's head up at the club that is drunk ......Even as I was looking at the frets sober as can be I felt like i had double vision....LOL

  • @daveroach4204
    @daveroach4204 Год назад +8

    Question Darrell, how do the frets work with harmonics? Thanks for your videos.

    • @basenjipoppy
      @basenjipoppy Год назад +1

      Ahh, excellent question! Curious now too.

    • @iDominic42
      @iDominic42 Год назад +1

      Just search for "Mattias IA Eklundh harmonics"who uses True Temperament necks / frets on his guitars and has whole video lessons about using harmonics (and a volume pedal) for whole songs. He is very unconventional, but an absolute master of the technique

  • @ThemFuzzyMonsters
    @ThemFuzzyMonsters Год назад +16

    These have been around for ~10 years. I have three custom necks that went through the TT treatment (two maple Warmoth and a graphite neck) and they are fantastic.

    • @SwagbrahamOG
      @SwagbrahamOG Год назад +2

      Yup, even remember the company who came up with these walking into our guitar shop introducing it.
      Was quite the interesting play session gotta say.

    • @davidurich3696
      @davidurich3696 Год назад +1

      Do you notice a difference when playing with other instruments without this factor! I'm guessing not!

    • @thisperfectworld
      @thisperfectworld Год назад

      Did you get yours from the USA company in Texas? How long was your wait? Thanks. I ordered two from Sweden two weeks ago that were supposedly in stock necks, but it's been radio silence since they got my money.

    • @ThemFuzzyMonsters
      @ThemFuzzyMonsters Год назад +1

      @@thisperfectworld
      The first one I got from Sweden and it took a long time. The other two were done in Texas.
      All three were custom necks that I shipped to them, so it was different than stock orders, but nothing was quick. The last one was probably five or six years ago, so nothing recent.

  • @toddsteele72
    @toddsteele72 Год назад +2

    Its a bit early for April Fools Day isn't it Darrell? 😉

  • @DeepDiversion
    @DeepDiversion Год назад +12

    This sounds like a more accurate representation of how sound actually flows from instrument to ear

  • @jcool0122
    @jcool0122 Год назад +1

    It seems like it's just a gimmick. I mean mathematically I'm sure it's a more perfect fretting, but the slightest difference in action would through your intonation off anyway, not to mention how hard you fret the strings. I don't think it'll magically play better than Jimi Hendrix.

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  • @CynHicks
    @CynHicks Год назад +8

    Tempered frets are really cool. I've always been bothered by guitars inability to be perfectly in tune with itself. I've developed a different tuning technique that helps me but then I have to avoid certain positions for chords. 1st position D being a big one.

    • @SnahLhug
      @SnahLhug Год назад +5

      If you have trouble with an open D, try a compensated nut. I don't have the means for a neck like this, but I can buy bone stock and do wonders with a set of files and sand paper.

  • @strong_voice_of_truth
    @strong_voice_of_truth Год назад +4

    Looks like my fret work

  • @thomask9577
    @thomask9577 Год назад +3

    $650 (USD) is more than most of my guitars. But I do like the idea of them.

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  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Год назад +7

    Potential downside: you can’t use alternate tunings. You’d need another neck set for Open D, Open G, etc.

    • @johnmark7777
      @johnmark7777 Год назад

      You can use alt tunings. The company provides a whole series of how to tune the strings for different tunings.

  • @vonzoomtunes9847
    @vonzoomtunes9847 Год назад +5

    Watching you play those wonky frets hypnotized me. Now I think I'm a chicken.

  • @claudevieaul1465
    @claudevieaul1465 Год назад +1

    You've really never seen this?
    It's been around for quite some time....
    Would I use it?
    If I could afford it: yes.

  • @emilychristoff9404
    @emilychristoff9404 Год назад +5

    They should have had a zero fret of the same or a compensated nut

    • @FieldAble
      @FieldAble Год назад +3

      Good point. He needs to swap out that plain graphtech.

    • @madmat6502
      @madmat6502 Год назад +1

      The compensated *nut* is to make slight adjustments in the *scale length* to make an even-tempered guitar sound in-tune with itself (get the intervals equal, to the 12th root of 2). It's the same principle used at the bridge to compensate for the string going slightly sharp when they're fretted, because the strings stretch slightly as they are pressed down... the way you compensate for this is to slightly increase the scale length.
      The point of a just-intonated neck is to move the tuning of the *individual* notes around so they ring with each other. That's why you have to do the "stretch" tuning Darrel talks about towards for it to work.

  • @Rich6Brew
    @Rich6Brew Год назад +1

    So it's the original Fender ethos: when the frets wear out you simply replace the neck.

  • @ellg5278
    @ellg5278 Год назад +8

    It would be a nightmare to crown those frets.

    • @osanakoma366
      @osanakoma366 Год назад

      Definitely ain't using a file!

    • @wildeasage
      @wildeasage Год назад

      SS frets make this neck possible!

    • @Hickalum
      @Hickalum Год назад

      You don’t crown regular SS frets.

    • @osanakoma366
      @osanakoma366 Год назад

      @@Hickalum But imagine trying to crown them.

  • @1Luxor0
    @1Luxor0 Год назад +2

    Hmm..too many downsides as you have mentioned. I'll pass.

  • @Andreas_Straub
    @Andreas_Straub Год назад +4

    Hi Darrell, didn't you forget the most important aspect of this neck? The difference in tuning/sound compared to a normal neck for intervals and chords?

    • @johnmark7777
      @johnmark7777 Год назад

      Yeah, he didn't demonstrate the differences. Maybe another time he will.

  • @madmat6502
    @madmat6502 Год назад +1

    I think most people posting don't understand the difference between equal temperment (regular guitars) and just intonation... there is a really good book on this very subject...
    How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (and Why You Should Care) (you need to search with Google, apparently links in youTube comments are a no-no.)
    To make a long story short though? Most people aren't going to care. ;) Only people who are REALLY into "properly" playing Bach, or into very complex jazz chords will be interested.

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    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 Год назад

      I'm wondering if you've not heard the sourness of some basic 'cowboy chords'? Play E, A and D major in first position. Not jazz, but not in tune either. If it doesn't bother you, that's fine, but if it does, then I can tell you, TT really helps.

  • @carlbradley4872
    @carlbradley4872 Год назад +21

    This feels like a perfect collection addition for a player whose true gift is rhythm playing. Take bends out of the equation and this could be amazing.

    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 Год назад +1

      I've had one of these necks on my Strat for a couple of years. I know it looks like bends might be a problem, but honestly, they're not. It was my one worry when I was deciding whether to buy, but right from the first time I played it, I had no problem at all.
      I know RUclips doesn't like links in comments, but I do have a video up with lots of bends on it - search for Just a bit of Lady Jay. I recorded that a few weeks after I got the neck.

    • @Xaltar_
      @Xaltar_ Год назад +2

      The bends work just fine, you would think it would cause issues but it really doesn't. The frets are only uneven on a single plane so they still feel smooth and natural when bending. I played a guitar with one of these at a guitar show, it was a blast to play and you can really hear the intonation improvement. The price put it out of reach for me though. It makes sense, they are much harder to manufacture than standard fret necks.

    • @johnmark7777
      @johnmark7777 Год назад +1

      If you play a lot of open chords all over the neck, this works great for staying in tune. If you're a power chord and lead guy, this neck won't matter much. Bending is no problem.

  • @Thomkid-iz2qo
    @Thomkid-iz2qo Год назад +1

    yo is that 3d printed guitar neck still on its way?

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  • @IcedForce
    @IcedForce Год назад +8

    Kind of side of the subject but I am amazed how rare SS frets are. Like yeah they are bit brighter in tone and more slippery for bending but the main reason I have found out why they are not used isn't that they are harder to work with or they demand bit stronger tools that not every luthier has but that they wear the strings. Lastly I came to this reasoning while taking my quest to find better picks for my use and wandered to the metal pick area and the thing seemed to be "for better control and thin pick you sacrifice your strings". And with both cases I just can't think anything less than, why should you try to save your strings over the frets or the pick when strings basicly are the most consumable part of the guitar?
    If you are active player you change your strings every now and then, monthly even weekly and at least once a year or two before they start to rust, changing them twice as often because harder frets still feels like no brainer compared to getting fretwork done even once in couple decades.

    • @tommilitello198
      @tommilitello198 Год назад

      Stainless frets don’t have dimples in them a year later

    • @notonyourlife7939
      @notonyourlife7939 Год назад +2

      They're really not that uncommon anymore... even some sub-$1K overseas guitars have stainless frets these days. I've been slowly converting all my guitars to stainless frets. Once you try them, you'll never go back... bending is effortless. Then when you pick up something with regular frets, bending feels like you're dragging the strings across sand paper, lol

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  • @pyromaniak678
    @pyromaniak678 Год назад +1

    I DOUBT you've only JUST heard of this now. xD

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    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 Год назад

      Sounds like he heard of it at least six months ago!

  • @HenryPipes
    @HenryPipes Год назад +3

    Taking your money and waiting 6 months for a neck without a notice beforehand is a deal breaker for me.

    • @BigBangGamers
      @BigBangGamers Год назад +3

      I thought the exact same thing.

    • @robertlawrence2609
      @robertlawrence2609 Год назад +3

      Exactly. And Darrell had the most polite rant about it that I have ever heard!

  • @hijmestoffels5171
    @hijmestoffels5171 Год назад +1

    If you want to hear a side by side comparison, there’s a video by Paul Davids and Adam Neely. Search for ‘paul davids squiggly frets’. The difference is quite noticeable.

  • @bshiabk
    @bshiabk Год назад +4

    Sup Darrell. Ever thought of reviewing Fujigen guitars? They implement circular fretting systems on all their guitars to supposedly help with intonation. Might be worth looking into.
    Love your content btw!

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  • @zimbalist
    @zimbalist Год назад +1

    Mr TT Anders Thidell died on July 10th.
    However, 4-6 months without proper info is inexcuseable.

  • @groverbaker6404
    @groverbaker6404 Год назад +4

    Its still amazing to me how the greatest players inspire on just regular guitars...I'll be happy when I can play phenomenal on a regular guitar...

  • @russstotyn2193
    @russstotyn2193 Год назад +1

    It should be noted that company founder Anders Thidell died in July. That could affect operations a bit.

  • @blackdogsheep5631
    @blackdogsheep5631 Год назад +3

    Now just add an Evertune and you have a guitar that is perfectly in tune all the time.

  • @ashscott6068
    @ashscott6068 Год назад +1

    True temperament guitars sound AWFUL. They sound like a bad MIDI sample, triggered by a keyboard. If you play chords, you just can't not sound like a cheesy 80's keyboard. They even sound a bit weird when you play lead. I think we're all just used to fretted instruments sounding the way they always have. The frets themselves are also gash, and they're not available in anything hard enough so you don't feel the string shaving metal off whenever you bend.

  • @d3w4yn3
    @d3w4yn3 Год назад +3

    You should have held this for April 1st! We would never have believed it was real!!!

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  • @allboutthemojo
    @allboutthemojo Год назад

    The plus side.. if you're playing sucks , blame it on the crooked frets 😆

  • @DARKLYLIT
    @DARKLYLIT Год назад +22

    Wow. You can definitely hear that the intonation is better than a guitar with straight frets. Surprisingly cool. Thanks Darrell!

    • @WeWereYoungandCrazy
      @WeWereYoungandCrazy Год назад +2

      sarcasm much?

    • @lyonsson6480
      @lyonsson6480 Год назад +1

      Are you serious?

    • @grischad20
      @grischad20 Год назад

      @@lyonsson6480 trained people or people with absolute pitch can definitely hear the difference, but for most people, even those with casual training, it's indistinguishable

    • @WeWereYoungandCrazy
      @WeWereYoungandCrazy Год назад +1

      @@grischad20 "you can definitely hear that the intonation is better than a guitar with straight frets" there was no side by side comparison, no before and after. a comparison between this modified guitar and any other guitar with straight frets from "previous listenings" is completely subjective. and you would be amazed how many "trained" people fail double blind tests in situations like this. this could have been a very good opportunity to compare the same guitar with and without the compensated fretboard, but apparently that wasn't part of the plan.

    • @The-Weekend-Warrior
      @The-Weekend-Warrior Год назад +1

      @@grischad20 Just think about it... the way the frets are moves the sound up/down by the exact amount that you move your tuning by afterwards... so at the end of the day, you've practically done nothing, but made your playing more difficult. I still maintain that this is pure snake oil... until someone shows me a real side-by-side comparison and we can see on the frequency analysis that something actually happened.

  • @timmack2415
    @timmack2415 Год назад +3

    The tuning would probably drive me a little crazy, especially on the fly.

  • @akasgsvirgil9503
    @akasgsvirgil9503 Год назад +1

    I miss the intro where he throws the acoustic guitar on the roof of the snow covered shed and then trips and faceplants on his way back inside.

  • @time2believe
    @time2believe Год назад +3

    The first time I saw frets like this was when Steve Vai showed off one of his guitars. It caught my eye because I had never seen frets bent like that before.

    • @judasbarnet8604
      @judasbarnet8604 Год назад

      Wasn't ia Eklund from freak kitchen one of the first who used this type of frets?

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder Год назад +1

    Seems like they’re already sold out!
    Anyone have any idea where I can get something like this in the UK for fun…?

  • @rexrathtar3893
    @rexrathtar3893 Год назад +3

    This is really rather ingenious. I genuinely thought it was a novelty/joke when I first saw it and doubted how it would work even after you explained what it was for. Neat!

  • @MrTomservo85
    @MrTomservo85 Год назад +3

    Reminds me of those crazy micro tonal necks. Have you done a video on those yet?

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  • @loutang82
    @loutang82 Год назад +3

    Really cool. Seems like a solution to a problem no one had, tho..especially if it needs to be tuned differently.

    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 Год назад

      The guitar's imperfect intonation has always bothered me. At first, I thought I had rubbish guitars, but when I was able to access professional instruments, I realised no guitar intonates really well.

  • @michaelbelgil
    @michaelbelgil Год назад +4

    Would love to hear the difference in intonation compared to the normal neck! (Is it worth it?)

    • @johnmark7777
      @johnmark7777 Год назад +4

      If you play a lot of open chords all over the neck, this works great for staying in tune. If you're a power chord and lead guy, this neck won't matter much. If you play your normal neck guitar and often hear how various chords sound slightly out of tune and it bugs you as much as it bugs me, then this neck is for you. If you don't notice it, then it might not matter to have this neck.

    • @jihamiya5755
      @jihamiya5755 Год назад

      @@johnmark7777 Well said

  • @luisreneventura
    @luisreneventura Год назад +1

    Don't you need to have a compensated nut too for the open string chords?

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  • @davidozab2753
    @davidozab2753 Год назад +11

    Hard to judge the tuning with the strings settling in. Head to head with straight frets might be a good comparison.

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  • @cocotheix2664
    @cocotheix2664 Год назад +2

    but how do you scallop it?

  • @scrub8423
    @scrub8423 Год назад +11

    Like the idea, but would never get along with the frets personally. I like doing crazy bends, like 2, 2 and a half steps, and i feel like these frets would mess with that. Super cool idea tho!

    • @MrDavee1
      @MrDavee1 Год назад +6

      I think the fact he never played a nice slow full tone bend tells the story.

    • @martyshwaartz971
      @martyshwaartz971 Год назад +2

      Imagine these with an evertune for rhythm work though, I’m sure the keys would appreciate it!

    • @AbsoluteAbsurd
      @AbsoluteAbsurd Год назад

      @@martyshwaartz971 Yea, I get such an irk from out of tune chords😭 the fact that chords up and down the fret are still technically out of tune even when the guitar is "in tune" bugs me out so much

    • @RajorshiBhattacharyya
      @RajorshiBhattacharyya Год назад +2

      They actually don’t! Check out Mattias Eklundh from Freak Kitchen, he almost exclusively plays these and does absolutely crazy bends.

    • @frodeleirvik
      @frodeleirvik Год назад

      @@RajorshiBhattacharyya, exactly! I just don't get it why people are so caught up in the "they don't bend" when they have never ever tried it.

  • @1972Georges
    @1972Georges Год назад +2

    I think they are called true temp. necks

  • @kingbrutusxxvi
    @kingbrutusxxvi Год назад +4

    Years ago I saw a post on RUclips from Mattias IA Eklundh playing one of these and I was drop-jawed. Steve Vai also has a few posts playing a JEM with them. I've always wanted to try one but they cost so much for just the neck that, if I hate it, it will be one heck of an expensive experiment. Might just need to pull the trigger. Cheers, Darrell.

    • @notonyourlife7939
      @notonyourlife7939 Год назад

      Save your money... they're more trouble than they're worth. And if you plan on paying in a band with another guitar player, he better have one of these ridiculous things too, otherwise the two of you will NEVER be in tune with each other.

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    • @frodeleirvik
      @frodeleirvik Год назад

      @@notonyourlife7939, I regret to say that what you are claiming is not true. I know from experience. And you can check with eminent players like Matthias Eklundh and Per Nilsson if you don't take my word for it.

    • @johnnewton1830
      @johnnewton1830 Год назад +1

      @@frodeleirvik Per won't take my calls.

  • @ricksrealpitbbq
    @ricksrealpitbbq Год назад +3

    Wow Darell, looks like you’ve inspired my second build. The first one you kick started was your super strat with the darkmoon abalone humbuckers. That guitar I used a shape similar to a PRS. But I’ve been wanting an actual strat for a while now. I guess I’ll be getting in line for my new neck 😂

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    • @johnmark7777
      @johnmark7777 Год назад

      I sent Darrell a picture of my Strat build with this neck. If you play a lot of open chords all over the neck, this works great for staying in tune. If you're a power chord and lead guy, this neck won't matter much. You might have to buy a new tuner though in order to get the cents per string right, but no biggie.

  • @northland..
    @northland.. Год назад +1

    it seems like a "pointless product" other than quirky asthetics.

  • @RJ_Groot
    @RJ_Groot Год назад +3

    it probably took the extra 5 months to level and polish those wonky frets. That would be tedious.

  • @fasterbabylon
    @fasterbabylon Год назад +1

    Nobody cares about opening the box. Get straight to the info.

  • @andreasrosengren6059
    @andreasrosengren6059 Год назад +6

    Nice video. I have one of those myself and I really love it. Just want to mention that the inventor of this system Anders Thidell past away this fall and his life work and legacy should be worth mentioning. Also I would assume things have been a bit strange around the company due to this lately. Anyway, great review

    • @johnmark7777
      @johnmark7777 Год назад +2

      I have one and I love it, too.

  • @madmat6502
    @madmat6502 Год назад +2

    I think you're missing the biggest downside... if the rest of the band is playing on even-tempered (standard) instruments... EVERYBODY is going to be out of tune! I know that *some* keyboards can be switched to just intonation, but it's still relatively rare.
    It would be interesting to see if any intonation adjustments were necessary at the bridge as a result of the install. This would seem to be the case, as that 12th fret is far from straight. ;)

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    • @frodeleirvik
      @frodeleirvik Год назад +1

      I'd be happy to hear from you about actual experience with this statement, because to my knowledge it is incorrect.

    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 Год назад +1

      It's not just intonation. It's a correction for guitars so they play in even-tempered tuning more accurately. Yes, the saddles have to be adjusted for a TT neck. They end up being in a much more even line - without that squiggle for the G and B strings.

  • @vikassm
    @vikassm Год назад +4

    For those thinking how it'll sync with other guitarists using traditional fretted guitars, it's a non issue.
    Listen to dual lead guitar bands like Iron Maiden (that's 3 guitars), amon amarth, Kalmah, etc.. the guitarists are doing their own thing on most of the songs, not always in sync. But it all comes together to create some glorious tunes.

  • @masa-bs6qe
    @masa-bs6qe Год назад +1

    Gonna make a zombie/frankin strat the frets are already lurching lol

  • @olafburgermann806
    @olafburgermann806 Год назад +4

    Been wanting to try out true temperament for a long time. Problem is the only production model I could find was a Strandberg, which is s high price to pay just to try something out.
    Heard them before and they sound amazing, like a guitar probably always should have had the tech existed when guitars were first invented.

  • @faithfamilyfriendsforever6777
    @faithfamilyfriendsforever6777 Год назад +1

    Guitars gone crazzy and girls gone wild.

  • @Arfshesaid457
    @Arfshesaid457 Год назад +1

    You said "project" the American way - prah-ject rather than PRO-ject.
    What have you done with the real Darrell?!?

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  • @waylong25
    @waylong25 Год назад +3

    These true temperament neck are super awesome, but I can imagine fretwork to be an absolute NIGHTMARE.

  • @mavrosyvannah
    @mavrosyvannah Год назад +1

    I would put money on my guess the delays are because it's a bunch of pot smokers.

  • @tjukkv
    @tjukkv Год назад +1

    I have a hard enough time playing a regular neck

  • @boxboxbox624
    @boxboxbox624 Год назад +1

    Having to tune your guitar to sound in tune using crooked frets just sounds like a gimmick. What's the need of this when using straight frets and normal tuning is what this gimmick is trying to achieve? I do like stainless steel frets though... so there's that.

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  • @BizGab
    @BizGab Год назад +2

    Great review and you seem like a genuine nice person. I even like how you gave the negative feedback but in a respectful and understanding way (as opposed to the all too familiar rant). Have subscribed in the strength of this review and look forward to seeing more from you.

  • @robertnilsson8213
    @robertnilsson8213 Год назад +2

    Hi Darrell, as usual a very good video to watch! I am a self taught guitar builder (not a luthier) who came across those guys for about 5 or 6 years ago when i needed help with refretting and cleaning up the weldings on a Telecaster guitar that i've won in a pokergame. It's actually a very small operation Luthiers that began as workers on former Paul Guy Guitars. Man those guys are really skilled and innovative but, as it is a very small operation and no factory production of these necks i can surely understand why they take their time to make them as high quality level as possible. And by the way. They did an excellent job on my Telecaster guitar as i expected. I also heard a rumour that Steve Vai is one of their clients but i never got that confirmed but, that made me enough curious to look them up and ask for their help. I was blown away of the skill the luthier had who simply dismounted the neck and the pickguard just to inspect how bad my guitar needed those improvements. They were all the way through very professional and even gave me an estimated price there on the spot plus when i could come back and pick it up.
    I am too used to traditional necks to be willing to test on of these necks i'm afraid. 54 years with the regular ones on a very large amount of guitars. Cheers! ~Rob Nilsson Musician from Sweden.

  • @internallycombusted1
    @internallycombusted1 Год назад +1

    Looking at those frets gives me anxiety lol

  • @Hubbs3of6
    @Hubbs3of6 Год назад +1

    What if you are playing with others and you use your alternate tuning? Will there be issues?

    • @MaskSwabe
      @MaskSwabe Год назад

      Good question... I wanna know ..

  • @thelastscarecrow6701
    @thelastscarecrow6701 Год назад +1

    I would be interested in this but not at $700. Hopefully there will be enough interest to increase production and prices to drop.

  • @LocrianDorian
    @LocrianDorian Год назад

    I remember when I saw the True Temperament site some years ago, and my opinion is still the same. The pros don't outweigh the cons here. The only real pro is "perfect intonation", but is it worth the (minor or major depends on who you ask) playability issues, the hassle, and the absolute ugliness that is the crooked frets? Most importantly, even most musicians wouldn't notice the intonation difference, let alone the audience, particularly playing live. In a studio setting, you can always use software to slightly adjust the intonation to perfection after the fact if need be. It isn't like the guitar is the only instrument that doesn't have perfect intonation, all the instruments would need to be spot on. Realistically, I believe it's solving a non-issue. Still a nice option to exist out there but for a very limited audience.

  • @Arthur_My_Dear
    @Arthur_My_Dear Год назад

    Thing is every brilliant guitarist any of us have admired over the last 100 years played a guitar with a standard neck 🤷‍♂️

  • @davidkastin4240
    @davidkastin4240 Год назад

    When I saw the frets I thought did I take too much medication or am I having a 70s flashback ☺

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  • @robertdonosobuchner3129
    @robertdonosobuchner3129 Год назад

    I know these fretwork from the Caparison signature Applehorn 8 string guitar for Mattias IA Ecklundh. This signature guitar is awesome, it has this true temperament frets and a tremolo system... But it is very expensive. If you don't know Mattias IA Ecklundh, check out his RUclips channel, a little bit crazy but I like him. Caparison has also other great guitars on their website, but only the Applehorn has the true temperament frets. The only thing that I don't like so much, is that I have to adjust all tunings for every single string, including the adjustment of the the bridge section...