Beginner's guide to setting up your new fiddle: Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this video, I open my brand-new new fiddle, inspect it, and set it up. I talk about the different parts of the fiddle, and show you how to set up the strings and to place the bridge in the correct position.
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I'm a 61 year old that is just starting out with Violins. I ordered one, and wanted to learn about set ups, and alterations, and upgrades... This is an excellent video to start with, and I am sure I will do well now thanks you to sir. Thank you.
I just got my violin today and it's exactly like this one 😁
Me too I’m hella confused
Same
A fiddle is a violin
Me too
But I tried the same way mine was about to broke please help me
I just got the same violin from eBay because I wanna see if I like violin and it was cheap. I wad so afraid for it being my first time setting up a violin and I couldn't understand why it wouldn't make any sound even after I used rosin. your trick was fantastic by scratching the surface of the new rosin with a coin. I rubbed it on for 5 minutes like you and it finally makes sound. thank you so much you were so helpful! this is my first time owning a violin. If I end up actually persuing the violin I'll buy a better one. cheap ones on eBay are good if you're just experimenting and getting a feel for the violin. I got the black one
How much did you buy for your violin?
My Vilone. Is also new it mot getting sound
Plz help me
Forgotten Soul you can use a nail file, took me 5 seconds to scratch the rosin enough to be easily usable.
@@allabout-ibispaint2966 not sure if it's relevant to you now but I just bought the exact one for $45 off amazon.
I just got my first violin in the mail. Very excited, but intimidated. BluegrassDaddy totally breaks it down and I am well on my way to getting it all set up. Not even finished yet (on video 3) but I had to take a moment to say how great I think this guy is. I am a direction follower and I watch a lot of instructional videos on RUclips. What I really appreciate here is how thorough his instruction are without being boring. Well done!
Since it's not mentioned: This looks exactly like the one that I got from Amazon this week: Mendini 4/4 MV300. It was about $65. Just putting this here so it'll come up for anyone searching for information on its shipping/performance/etc.
I have one throw the strings away that came with it they are horrible a better quality will give you a better sound and will stay in tune longer also try different rosins on the bow you will hear the difference I use the one I bought for practice instead of beaten up my 130 year old violin so far nearly 2 years the violin is holding up as with any violin keep the humidity in check and keep it clean after use the 300 is more less a student violin I don't use the bow that came with it because it had to much bounce to it other then that the price was right be truthful I did not think it would hold up to my practice sometimes I push 4 hours a day on it but so far it has not fell apart I may just be luck I don't know one can take it to a luthier for set up if need be
All hail this video series. I wish my violin teacher taught me all this from day one.
Thank you!!! I picked up a used one, yesterday to try to learn to play. It was only after watching your video that I realized that the bridge was set up all wrong.
Wow...thank you for this video. By watching I was easily able to set up my 8 yr olds violin that he just got for Christmas. Thanks again for sharing this video.
I was despairing of the fact that I bought a cheap violin and couldn't set it up. I got someone at the music store to do the initial setup, then watched the 3 part videos on how to set up my new 'fiddle' and feel a whole lot more comfortable with tuning it and getting my bow ready. I've NEVER played the violin so this is going to be an interesting journey for me. Thank you for the very helpful videos
how are you doing now?
@@Iris-fp4uk I'm getting more and more comfortable with my violin, including turning it. I've also upgraded my violin to a better quality one :)
If this were the only video on RUclips, I would rate it a B+. In the company of the mass number of crap videos that are often silent movies or 33 seconds long or hand held phone camera, this is a masterpiece. Thank you for making the effort to produce a decent video. A+!!!!!
Thank you very much for posting this video! My son just received his new Ebay 4/4 violin today in the mail and your video was a huge help to teach us the setup and parts of the instrument. His violin is the same as the one in your video so that really helped to encourage his interest in learning this new instrument. We subscribed to say "Thank you"!
I think replacing the friction pegs w/ Mechanical ones would help it hold tune better
I ordered mine the other day. I'm very excited to learn. You videos really are what tipped me over the edge to finally learn to play.
How much was it?
From the varnish, it looks like low-cost Chinese violin. I bought one about 50 years ago, which was incredibly cheap, including a hard case and bow, and even a block of resin. I played with it for long enough to convince myself that I was never born to be a violinist. It was quite a pretty instrument, and I won a photographic competition with a picture of it, lit by candles. It had quite a loud sound, but very harsh. I thought it sounded much better if I clipped a mute over the bridge, which mellowed the sound somewhat. In the right hands, however, it would probably have been a well suited sound for certain kinds of music.
I finally took it to a violin shop to sell it. The guy behind the counter opened the lid and looked at it for all of - oh - a second before closing it again, and said "Sorry - we don't deal in the Chinese violins"
Thanks. Just the the simplest and effective way to teach beginners.
I think it's great that you bought one of these uber cheap fiddles to mess about with, good set-up will work wonders I guess? Excellent video and many thanks for taking the time out.
....looks like a plastic tailpiece, finger board and tuning pegs, so what if they work?
Not plastic, these are wooden. Plastic is available an even cheaper rate.
Very excellent description of the violin setup
Fantastic video, covers it from ground-up. Exactly what I needed to get going
Thank you. Got this for my daughter for Christmas!
Guy do you have any idea how many useless instructional vids are on youtube. You’re a lifesaver
Aww yea I just got one of these today, thank you for this
Jon A. Same
How it going w your violin?
Thanks for an interesting video! I have bought a cheap violin that should be tuned, but I think it still sounds odd all the time. But yeah .. "you get what you pay for!" I'm a beginner
so I do not have so much experience of violins. :)
Stringed instruments need to be tuned everytime you play them. The tuning changes with humidity and temperature.
Love how he completely skims over how to tighten the thinnest string, makes my job much easier!
EXCELLENT VIDEO THX...Im an advance guitar player and plan to start playing the violin..very informative thanks
Did the sound post not fall over because there was no tension, I was told that you have to be very careful.
Never mind the other comment I left I already found the problem with the stick thanks for sharing this video it show me that I was doing it right when I was starting to think I was doing something wrong but I wasn't thanks to your video 😊
i'm so glad you're doing this beginners guide to fiddles thing :]
Thanks for helping me get my new violin set up.
This helped me a lot i freaked out when my bridge popped out but this help me so much.
Thank you for the basic tutorial I'm new to playing any instrument and this helped a lot!
Excellent instructional video - thank you!
This is the answer I've been looking for!
Thank you for making such a good video for beginners! As well as your other tutorial videos!!
The G string is the sexiest string.
Thank you for explaining how to set-up the fiddle you're awesome
Thank you! I did not how to do my violin until now i'll give it a try!👌👌
Excellent demonstration. Thank you.
If the sound post falls out so easy, why would they ship it with no tension on it?
OMFG THANK YOU!!!!! I had no idea what that part was for!!!!
John, for your style of playing (bluegrass, old time), wouldn't you trim the bridge to be a bit less arched, closer to flat?
theres different variations of a violin bridge, which one do I use?
Just there on the street, waintin' on y'all? Man... they give them things out to anybody! :D LOL.
So you don't glue the bridge down or anything? I just got mine today but I'm a bit Nervous to put the bridge on but this video is excellent thanks so much
Don't glue the bridge. Good luck!
Thank you 🤗
I can't wait to see how you John, a really great fiddle player, will make an inexpensive fiddle sound.
*violin
what do you think of the cvn 700 for a first violin, at 51 yrs old Iv'e never played any instrument.
The CVN 700 is a good intermediate violin.
"inside of the f holes" haha
Hi, John. Thank you so much for the excellent guides for us newbies. My violin would not tune properly as others have stated. While attempting to tune, my pegs would also slip back as soon as I released them. Then my A string seemed not to move at all, no matter what. I loosened the string and it had come entirely loose from the peg and I can't get that curly string back into the peg's hole enough to hold when I start turning the peg. Any suggestions or tips?
+Lois Glavin Never mind, I finally got it!
tightened one to much and split the bloody string -_-
same ;-;
Matthew Simms it's always the e string , Always 😑
My brother broke the A and the E string. Then replacing them I broke another A string
Same
lol same and i did it on the same violin as the one in the video.
OMG thanks ... I got my violin today and I and no idea
Very helpful, Thank You.
Very helpful, clear explanations, and pleasant presentation! Thank You!
Thankyou sooo muchhh mistterrr😭😭🤩🤩
Thank you so much
Thank you for the tutorial😘☺
thank you, this is so well done!
I have the exact same violin and setting it up for the first time :) well, already broke a string trying to tune, because I can't control the pegs :(
It does take some practice to control the pegs, because of the way that they taper. You have to push in with just enough pressure to keep them tight, but not so much that you can't turn them.
so I should push as I rotate?
GrimsLegacy Yes, otherwise you may turn too fast. You want a good amount of friction as you turn, or else it may go too far. Sometimes strings break because you think the pitch should be higher when in reality it is already too high. This happens a lot when people use pitch pipes, which seem more high-pitched than the violin string because of its high overtones. It takes a little practice to compare the pitch of two different instruments.
thank you!
Thank you for the lessons
Bout the brigde, why the G string's side had to higher than the E string's side?
I purchased a similar fiddle on eBay for about the same price. Was the nut and fingerboard a single piece on the one you purchased? The one I ordered was unfortunately and the nut was misshapen and the string slots were cut to deep and not even in the correct spots. I ended up having to cut out and file down where the nut should sit and installed a ebony nut I purchased at a local music shop. The bridge also required quite a bit of work to get the proper string height and the feet to sit properly. I also had to properly fit the tuning pegs due to the fact that they did not fully extend into the second hole to hold them stable. All in all it came out very nice for the price invested but it's hard to imagine simply installing the bridge as the instruction print out that was included instructed to do. In your video it appears you simply installed the bridge as it came and was ready to play. Did you do nut adjustments and bridge fitting off camera?
The nut was separate from the fingerboard, and the bridge was cut to fit. Minimal setup!
The head of the violin is called the headstock.
thaks man. super helpfull
i just got mine yesterday in and when i picked it up i heard something rattling around inside. I immediately dismissed it as just a factory mishap or a piece of left over wood that can be removed later. but watching this video i realized that it was the sound post that was out of place. I don't know how or if i can fix this on my own but if it is possible can you make a video on how to put it back in? Thanks.
Jashien, unfortunately you will most likely have to go to a local violin shop or seek out a luthier to fix that issue.... there are special tools that are needed to set the soundpost and the soundpost has to be set in exactly the right position otherwise your violin won't sound good
I love it! This is really helpful
Found this video cuz I am looking for information regarding the bridge. Just had a new violin arrive and the bridge did not have grooves. I noticed Tue one in this video didn't either. Is it needed? If so, how do I do that?
A new bridge is called a "blank." Because no two violins are the same, It is taller than it needs to be, and the feet are thicker than they should be. The feet must be sanded to fit the top, and the height must be lowered to match the fingerboard. Next position the strings where you want them, mark the spot, and make some grooves. To create grooves, fold a piece of sanding paper and use the folded edge. Don't use a knife. The groove should be about a third as deep and wide as the strings -- just barely enough to hold them in place.
when I first got my violin 2 of the strings were broke :'(
My dad gifted me a violin for my 15 iv toght it was broken since I was a beginner then still am lol im 25 now broght it out to see if I could fix it since I'm watching violin videos im not sure the sting keeps loose as I tighten an the top it doesn't stay in tighten place
Not a severe western North Carolina accent, but I did hear "tellpiece" and "soundpaowst"and "futher".
I got the same one off eBay because I want to learn I want to know your opinion on this
Also my father brought this violin for 300 $ he knew nothing about violin im not sure if a cheap or good one it was from a shop it was a gift surprise some one know about violin can tell me what kind is mine?
I bought same type of violin from Ebay. Hard time setting up.
Hi John,
I just got the same fiddle (from TMart), and it arrived yesterday, but the strings were completely loose from the tailpiece, and I can't see how to get them in. It seems like it should be simple, but I can't seem to make them stay in place. Help!
If your strings are the type that tie to a small metal torus torus on the tail piece end, it is sometimes hard to fit them into place. You may need to loosen the fine tuners until there is enough clearance for the torus to slide past and slip into place.
mine arrived with its soundpost fallen over. Any suggestions?
Hello...
I am Mona ....
From India....
I want to learn violin but am confused which brand shld I buy online can please anyone help me with this?????.
Wow...that video helped so much...and made me feel so stupid at the same time...🤦🏼♀️loll
I dont get why they dont send the violin with the bridge alrdy installed on it. Why is this??
I got the same violin on ebay for $28. 2 day shipping. So fast. 1 string on my bow was ripped 😣 but i cut it off and i saw 1 very lose string on bow, so i cut that one off too. Hopefully it doesnt change sounds or affect the sounds.
Also, can i super glue the bridge on? Or do you recomend not to do that? Can i tape it on? I want the bridge to be secure.
It is weird. On most violins, if the strings and bridge aren't set up, the sound post would fall off, as it's held there by tension of the strings. It sounds like these cheap violins have the sound post glued into place. And NO do not superglue your bridge into place. If the fiddle is in tune, the bridge will be secure, but it's very important it's in the right place for proper intonation. Don't worry about broken hairs on the bow though. That'll happen even with very expensive bows.
Hi, I have the same fiddle as yours and it's all set up but the strings are too far from the tail piece and it's causing issues. Could u help me I'm new to playing an instrument and I could really use your help!
+Kiran Khan Hi! I'm not sure what you mean. Is your tailpiece too short? If so, you may have to adjust (lengthen) the loop of twine that connects the tailpiece to the end pin.
Hi,
My E string is to close to the scroll and i don't know what to do. It wont tune properly and I just got my violin repaired
Kaylee Lynn Sanders get a new hole drilled in the peg,or a new peg fitted so the string sits further away from the side.
i have violin but i dont know how tune and try when i watch this video but im scared because strings may broke
i just got mine and the sound post had fallen over inside the violin. anyway to fix it up or am i gonna have to return it?
This is probably not a reason to return... Resetting the sound post is annoying but part of life. You can do it yourself with a tool and patience. Some people make a tool by bending a fork, but this can easily scratch the finish.
@@Bluegrassdaddy thanks, I'll look for a video on resetting it so i hopefully won't screw it up.
I got mines to day and I toke it out and I look on the side to see the little thing not standing up inside i was just moving in side my violin
very informative .
We have the exact same violin off amazon mine came differently though will u please help me my new bow wint make sound and i have put rosin on it multiple times i dont know what to do
Sometimes the rosin takes a while to stick to the bow hair, and in fact it just takes the bow a while to get broken in. When we rehaired bows, we used powdered rosin first to help the regular rosin go on evenly. I would simply keep putting rosin on it until you get enough on the hair for it to make sound.
RIght -- new bows don't come powdered so you have to put on a lot of rosin. If you are using a new cake of rosin, you may want to rough it up with some sandpaper or a nail file to get started.
Amazing!
i just bought a violin , im beginner
the fine tuner has only 3 screws, is it missing 1
Did you sort it out? I've had the same problem with my electric violin, which I bought second hand. In the process of trying to replace a missing fine adjuster screw, I found you can buy a very cheap plastic tail piece on ebay, with four of those screws in it.
The screws were too thin for mine, but there's a good chance they'd be the same one as on yours - most of these cheaper instruments and parts come from the same factories.
Alternatively, you could buy a single fine adjuster, meant for fitting to an older tail piece that didn't come with any, or maybe just came with one - and take the screw out of that. I found the screws on those were the same as on the cheap tail piece I bought, and that didn't cost much more, so its probably worth getting - that way you'd have spare parts.
If you can't get a screw that fits, it's not the end of the world. Make sure you have a screw on at least your E string. I'd suggest getting some peg paste too (aka peg compound), to make your pegs turn smoother and grip better. I've just watched a video where someone recommended peg drops, which look even easier to use. I hadn't heard of those.
ARTgamer ARTgamer you can buy individual fine tuners to screw in place quite cheaply.
hi what will i do to a new rosin shiny and smooth rosin before i rub it on the strings of the bow? thanks
Rough it up with some sandpaper
When playing, the third and fourth strings play at the same time
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please help me
chine farid Stirngs might be too close to each other
Do I need to glue in the bridge?
No
No notches necessary? Some setup guides talk about cutting notches where the strings go.
The strings make their own notches
My violin is a starter what do you have?? 🎻🎻🎻
I got the same violin from amazon
Can you make a tutorial video of diggy diggy low?
nice informative video.
What happens if the post thingy you talked about is just rolling around inside the violin???? Someone pls help me😢
hahahahabang buhay kang magmukhang tanga You need to take it to a Luther to be positioned back in the right place .
So this violin is set up for violin? I thought this was gonna be set up as a fiddle.
OMG MY VIOLIN CAME FROM CALIFORNIA ALSO!
The string was not tight well 🤔🤔
Just here to see the full name of channel
I did all that to my daughter violin and it wont work I try using the stick I don't know what the problem it's new n it also come with the same case but the inside it red :(
It takes a LONG time to get a good layer of rosin on the bow. That is probably what the problem is!
***** Yeah I already got it to work ^_^ but thanks for sharing your video or i would of thought that i did something wrong
thank you