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I had a 2018 MT10 and it was a great bike. This new Honda looks styled even better than the MT. From my experience, Honda has chassis balance second to none. I had a CBR 600 and 1000 back in the day and could never fault them for ride and handling.
They have all the excitement of an electric toothbrush. I'm glad it's reliable, always works, has good fit and finish. But it's an electric toothbrush.
Man, I think I have the exact same taste in bikes... I can't understand how Honda isn't releasing this bike in the US immediately. I've been considering a Yam MT bike or GSXS-1000 for a long time, but neither checks all the boxes like this new Hornet is looking like it will. I was even looking at the current CB-1000, and the Hornet sounds like Honda magically heard my grips with the current CB then fixed them for the Hornet. A Euro only release would be crazy, the only competition I can think of off the top of my head is the GSXS-1000. Fingers crossed 🤞
EPA regulations in the US, and Canada will force Honda bikes to be vanilla, unlike Europe. The Transalp in Europe has more power than the models sold in the US, for example.
I honestly got so excited for a second. I thought you was actually doing a review or first ride like chase on two wheels. Dude you can’t review a physical product from just pics and videos and a spec sheet.
What Honda needs to do for America is use their 1100 twin in a light weight chassis, you don't really need 150 HP, what is needed though is the 75 foot pounds of torque that the 1100 parallel twin would provide
Would require a big reconfiguring. NT1100 (100hp & not USA market) or Rebel 1100 (87 hp) are other options based on the Africa Twin engine, and it's just a torque-biased mill, but nothing particularly exciting. Long stroke, low compression, probably pretty heavy crank and flywheel.
Still think waiting for the new R9 is the better option. As Honda has been coasting on their name delivering bland bikes. Though the 750 Hornet has been a hit with great sales numbers. The CB1000 Hornet SP will definitely out do the 750 Hornet easily. It's basically taking a shot at the Yamaha MT09 SP.
In 2008 I purchased a street triple and about a year or two later I test rode a cb1000r. Turned the first corner, changed in to 2nd and I was instantly more confident on it than my own bike. I had never felt a gearbox so slick before. Ever since that day I have always wanted one. I hope it gets some great early reviews.
Yea,... I'm not really sure why Honda hasn't brought that bike to the states!? I feel any way that they would indeed sell really well in the states. most of the more veteran riders I know are into the torquey street bikes that sit you up a bit more comfortably aka naked. Kawasaki has a great line up ranging from the lower cc all the way up to 1000cc. Suzuki,... not sure on their naked line up, then of course Yamaha's line, that you happen to be show casing for us atm. So I would think that Honda / and it's infamous reputation for reliability / would bring a at least similar line up to the table. So I would think that this 2025 1,000cc would sell well too. ATGATT
Honda does weird shiz. I remember they used to make the sickest bikes and were always leading the pack. Now they make a cool bike and don't even release it here. 😔
@@CycleCruza Their innovation pretty much died in the early 2000's. They are an Africa Twin and Goldwing and Grom company now, for the most part. No 500cc dirtbikes, no V5 superbikes, no V4 anything anymore, no Blackbird competing with Hayabusa, no Superhawk or RC51 Vtwin anymore. Now we've got Groms, NC750X, Trail125, and 17 versions of a boring 471 parallel twin.
I've always suspected copyright infringement has something to do with the lack of Hornets in the US. I think the old 919's were called Hornets here but with Fiat now owning a major portion of Christler and the Hornet name (currently used on the Dodge Hornet) they may have been more difficult to deal with and Honda may have elected to just not try.
Hi Cruza, I sure hope it comes to the US too. I really like the SP version. I wonder how long it would take for the aftermarket companies to come out with a tall touring windscreen
CycleCruza...check out chris moore's crash over at moore mafia..dude was only wearing leather with NO protective gearing. Slice up his skin and everything !...For a veteran rider he should have more wisdom...
If Honda really invested in their motorcycles they would have released the CBR1000RRR Sp. with their GP V4 engine. Replacing the CBR in-line4 with the heritage RC equipped with a new RCV4Sp platform bike. I'm sure they're preoccupied with thinking about the Odyssey and Pilot though tbrf.
I just noticed they put a windscreen underneath the instrument cluster... Isn't that like wrapping your balls in a blanket because your neck is cold? tf is that
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Should I find a 2019 wr450 f and convert it like you did. -after it’s be used by someone else for dirt? Buy a new one - which you’ve said the isn’t the greatest to convert to street now that they changed it slightly Or is there another model or brand that I should look at a supermoto conversion. I love my wr250r so much I just look at the r1 these days
I converted a 2019 YZ450FX, NOT a WR450F. The WR450F has a soft suspension for woods riding and has emissions crap on it for a green sticker. The new YZ450FX has a soft suspension like the WR450F now. Also the new YZ450FX has traction control which I hate. If you can find a 2019-2022 YZ450FX. Those are the years with the stiffer suspension. The YZ450FX used to be a hybrid, a motocross and woods hybrid, reason for the stiffere suspension.
CycleCruza...check out chris moore's crash over at moore mafia..dude was only wearing leather with NO protective gearing. Slice up his skin and everything !...For a veteran rider he should have more wisdom...
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Dude you haven't even seen the bike or ridden the bike.....how can you do a review?
He will do anything to make a vid
Overview review. I did't say first ride review.
@@CycleCruza more like a commercial for honda. youtube is not an occupation....it's a distraction
@@CycleCruza thats called a preview
@@CycleCruza You're reading a spec sheet. Not a review. It's a summary.
This isn't a review. It's a summary.
I still ride a 04 CB919 Hornet I can't complain for a 20 year old bike now
Honda made the coolest bikes back in the day. Hopefully, they get back to making exciting bikes again.
Classic
CB919 engine is basically a detuned 28 year old engine by now.
I had a 2018 MT10 and it was a great bike. This new Honda looks styled even better than the MT. From my experience, Honda has chassis balance second to none. I had a CBR 600 and 1000 back in the day and could never fault them for ride and handling.
Ever felt a Suzuki chassis?
Honda's build quality is great, no doubt about that.
They have all the excitement of an electric toothbrush. I'm glad it's reliable, always works, has good fit and finish. But it's an electric toothbrush.
Considering trading in my 23 mt10 for this
@@matthewjackson3034 Can i ask why? MT10 has better tech and equipment right? Is it the looks?
Man, I think I have the exact same taste in bikes... I can't understand how Honda isn't releasing this bike in the US immediately. I've been considering a Yam MT bike or GSXS-1000 for a long time, but neither checks all the boxes like this new Hornet is looking like it will. I was even looking at the current CB-1000, and the Hornet sounds like Honda magically heard my grips with the current CB then fixed them for the Hornet. A Euro only release would be crazy, the only competition I can think of off the top of my head is the GSXS-1000. Fingers crossed 🤞
Cb1000r looks way better than the hornet imo
I agree with this comment. 2023 CB1000R is way more pleasing to look at. Round headlight, better lines.
EPA regulations in the US, and Canada will force Honda bikes to be vanilla, unlike Europe. The Transalp in Europe has more power than the models sold in the US, for example.
I honestly got so excited for a second. I thought you was actually doing a review or first ride like chase on two wheels. Dude you can’t review a physical product from just pics and videos and a spec sheet.
Whatup, my dog
Solid review
👊🏾
I currently own 2014 CB1000R flat black and Gold Made in Italy that I will never get rid off
What Honda needs to do for America is use their 1100 twin in a light weight chassis, you don't really need 150 HP, what is needed though is the 75 foot pounds of torque that the 1100 parallel twin would provide
Would require a big reconfiguring. NT1100 (100hp & not USA market) or Rebel 1100 (87 hp) are other options based on the Africa Twin engine, and it's just a torque-biased mill, but nothing particularly exciting. Long stroke, low compression, probably pretty heavy crank and flywheel.
Still think waiting for the new R9 is the better option. As Honda has been coasting on their name delivering bland bikes. Though the 750 Hornet has been a hit with great sales numbers. The CB1000 Hornet SP will definitely out do the 750 Hornet easily. It's basically taking a shot at the Yamaha MT09 SP.
Didn't know Nissan made motorcycle brakes.
Nissin not nissan lol come on mayyyne.
Great coverage bro
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I don't think we're even getting this bike in the U.S. which will be disappointing. It looks like a fun cheap naked bike.
In 2008 I purchased a street triple and about a year or two later I test rode a cb1000r. Turned the first corner, changed in to 2nd and I was instantly more confident on it than my own bike. I had never felt a gearbox so slick before. Ever since that day I have always wanted one. I hope it gets some great early reviews.
Yea,... I'm not really sure why Honda hasn't brought that bike to the states!? I feel any way that they would indeed sell really well in the states. most of the more veteran riders I know are into the torquey street bikes that sit you up a bit more comfortably aka naked. Kawasaki has a great line up ranging from the lower cc all the way up to 1000cc. Suzuki,... not sure on their naked line up, then of course Yamaha's line, that you happen to be show casing for us atm. So I would think that Honda / and it's infamous reputation for reliability / would bring a at least similar line up to the table. So I would think that this 2025 1,000cc would sell well too.
ATGATT
Asia is Honda's largest market by far.
Honda does weird shiz. I remember they used to make the sickest bikes and were always leading the pack. Now they make a cool bike and don't even release it here. 😔
@@CycleCruza Their innovation pretty much died in the early 2000's. They are an Africa Twin and Goldwing and Grom company now, for the most part.
No 500cc dirtbikes, no V5 superbikes, no V4 anything anymore, no Blackbird competing with Hayabusa, no Superhawk or RC51 Vtwin anymore.
Now we've got Groms, NC750X, Trail125, and 17 versions of a boring 471 parallel twin.
I've always suspected copyright infringement has something to do with the lack of Hornets in the US. I think the old 919's were called Hornets here but with Fiat now owning a major portion of Christler and the Hornet name (currently used on the Dodge Hornet) they may have been more difficult to deal with and Honda may have elected to just not try.
I could probably forget about the Mt 10 if this do come to the US. I would most likely get the SP version just for the paint alone.
Hi Cruza, I sure hope it comes to the US too. I really like the SP version. I wonder how long it would take for the aftermarket companies to come out with a tall touring windscreen
Honda is weird, we're still waiting for the cb750 hornet. Hopefully, they'll bring this cb1000 hornet here. I'm not sure about Honda these days.
They need to have the 750 hornet to be an SP model, also. A question for you! MT09, or cb1000 hornet!??
Mt10 or Hornet 1k?
Feels like another Honda teaser for the USA.
I'm guessing Kawasaki will give us a Z1100 before Honda ever imports this Hornet.
Very important question for Honda:
Is there cornering ABS incorporated in this Honda Hornet 1000?
I used to love my MT07 but upgraded to the Hornet750. The Hornet is a step forward. I don’t think I would trade my 1290 SDR to the 1000 hornet though.
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This or the MT10?
is it even coming to the
US?
Yeah, typical. Figured it wasn't actually a review 😂
But will it come to the US is the question?
We're still waiting for the CB750 Hornet. Honda makes no sense.
you see the new gen mt07 dropped today, upside down forks, and automatic/manual transmission, shift with button on bars lol
goto yahama's youtube
CycleCruza...check out chris moore's crash over at moore mafia..dude was only wearing leather with NO protective gearing. Slice up his skin and everything !...For a veteran rider he should have more wisdom...
I just want to know when I can get the CB1000SP on the US!
No Ohlins forks, no rear Brembo on the SP is lame! Also miss the single sided swingarm of my '16 CB1000R...may she rest in peace.
If Honda really invested in their motorcycles they would have released the CBR1000RRR Sp. with their GP V4 engine. Replacing the CBR in-line4 with the heritage RC equipped with a new RCV4Sp platform bike. I'm sure they're preoccupied with thinking about the Odyssey and Pilot though tbrf.
USA isn't their market. They really couldn't much care about us.
I remember Honda used to make the greatest bikes back in the day. They could do so much better.
No cruise?
What's your opinion on the new 25 MT07? Personally, I do not like the new look at all.
I daily a gsxs1000. This new honda is made to butt heads agaiant the gsxs1000, z900, and mt09. To me the suzuki will always be king!
the bike costs here in europe like 10000 dollar its crazy cheal for naked fireblade
I just noticed they put a windscreen underneath the instrument cluster... Isn't that like wrapping your balls in a blanket because your neck is cold? tf is that
I just hope that you are correct and Honda will bring the bikes over to the American market
Have you heard anything about a new VFR for 2025?
It's getting where words no longer have a real and definite meaning, mainly due to abuse and mis-use. 'Regiment' and 'regime' for example, or even a simple word like 'based'...
Now we have first look or preview articles and discussions being called actual "reviews" by a select few. Too bad. For many years 'review' meant try it and *then* talk.
Get a duke 390
bruh it's Nissin not Nissan XD, solid review though!
Sure it all sounds good but will they sell it in the U.S
It will sell better if it is a fun bike.
Have you heard anything about a new 2025 VFR
Not yet. I bet they release it in Europe tho. 😂
Buy a Honda hornet SP it'll be fun better than mt09 😎
I don't know, we'll see.
Probably closer to 13k here. If it is going to be 9-10k pounds.
Probably.
The question is, will it burn oil like all the other cbr1000rr engines?
Yamaha mt
Should I find a 2019 wr450 f and convert it like you did. -after it’s be used by someone else for dirt?
Buy a new one - which you’ve said the isn’t the greatest to convert to street now that they changed it slightly
Or is there another model or brand that I should look at a supermoto conversion.
I love my wr250r so much I just look at the r1 these days
I converted a 2019 YZ450FX, NOT a WR450F. The WR450F has a soft suspension for woods riding and has emissions crap on it for a green sticker. The new YZ450FX has a soft suspension like the WR450F now. Also the new YZ450FX has traction control which I hate. If you can find a 2019-2022 YZ450FX. Those are the years with the stiffer suspension. The YZ450FX used to be a hybrid, a motocross and woods hybrid, reason for the stiffere suspension.
HHWORRRNET.
Vaporware. Honda don't give a rip about the US market.
CycleCruza...check out chris moore's crash over at moore mafia..dude was only wearing leather with NO protective gearing. Slice up his skin and everything !...For a veteran rider he should have more wisdom...