Yeah, highly unrealistic though for two reasons: one, people are rarely ever stopped by a single shot from a handgun unless it severs the brain stem/spinal cord/destroys the brain itself; and two, because cops almost always fire multiple rounds at an assailant for the above stated reason as well as because they're under a massive adrenaline dump.
@Colton BigBlood I've watched thousands of bodycam videos over the last 7 years or so and I can count the number of times I've seen someone become immediately incapacitated from a single pistol-caliber round on one hand.
@Colton BigBlood it's replies like these that make me realize how immature a person truly can be. "LOL COUNT THEN DUR", doesn't change the fact that the statements I made are factually correct and anyone who isn't a totally blind idiot can see that.
@@cameron8679 does it usually take you this long to Google an intelligent response? Or are you just insecure with your intelligence? It's okay either way Cameron.
One of the best advantages to weaver is its simplicity when using cover, easy to use in almost all situations without training in different or specific cover shooting stances.
Apparently the only reason he made it was because he was actually having shoulder problems at the time and needed extra support for that reason. Really interesting!
@@AlejandroGarcia-mu4wwthe videos been posted, y’know you could just look the guy up like “Jack weaver stance simple history” or somethin like that and it’ll pop up
I just naturally go with the weaver stance. Didn’t know there was an official name for it until a few years ago. Seems to be the most natural stance for moving and defense at close range.
If you have any martial arts experience the foot and shoulder placement probably felt most familiar to you. Many styles like Karate or Taekwondo have similar stances. Boxing is the only style whose guard more resembles the classic isosceles stance.
@Cherry Soda exactly I'm white, my dad's a drug dealer and my granddad was a pedophile. But if they were black, they would be just as capable of doing the same crimes, and that's the sort of equality we should be fighting for.
My firearms instructor hated people doing this. He'd yell "WEAVER IS DEAD, GET THAT FOOT BACK YOU BASTARDS" Learned to shoot square to keep my vest wode and shoot with my body not my arm.
For civilians who usually aren't wearing body armor though - it's a fantastic stance. More natural with better balance than Isocoles. It also tends to make you instinctively lean forwards a little, which is good because a lot of beginners lean backwards away from the gun which is awful. Though when not wearing armor there's solid argument that for pistols a one handed inline stance is best as it presents the smallest profile.
@@matthewblackwood9653 I hate when people criticize each other for shooting weaver/modified weaver. Literally let people shoot how they are comfortable. “wElL dOnT bLaME mE wHeN U gIt sHoT cAuSE yOu wErEnT tAkTiCkLe” as if we have a mountain of data proving that shooting a particular stance makes a person more likely to die in a self defense scenario.
@@rogermcbadlad2812 you’re 100% right, people think weaver is dangerous because you expose yourself, well it doesn’t really matter if you’re good at shooting in that position
While usually modified today for much more squared stance and standing up straighter to account for body armor, this is still the most common handgun technique taught today
When I was a kid, we rented an old farmhouse to a deputy sheriff. Out in the pasture behind the house was a big washout that formed a natural backstop, and a lot of the deputies came out to shoot. I was in & out of there twice a day checking cattle and got invited to shoot with them often. Developed a keen interest in S&W wheel guns and got some damn good training before I was 16!
Almost universally not taught anymore. Around 2005 the isosceles stance really took off and is by far the most widely used pistol stance instructed today.
No. Weaver or Isosceles are the top tier. Having your feet apart, one foot in front of the other is a far more stable and athletic stance more conducive to tactical operation. Isosceles beats out weaver, though, with the lockout of the support arm for greater stability.
Weaver was developed before body armor was something readily available and used widely by law enforcement, so having your body at an angle decreases the size of your silhouette. Isosceles is more popular now since it points the chest fully forward so that your body armor can have the largest area of coverage on your silhouette.
Those who shoot IPSC today have left that style and switched to the box style, then you keep your feet in the same place even if you need to change targets to the right or left.
It's definitely not lmao. Using weaver stance with body armor means you're now presenting an un-armored path to the heart right in front of your target.
That head shot was nasty. But yeah i mainly use a weaver stance. When i went to get my Concealed permit. The instructor made me shoot in that "bow legged 1970s" still of shooting. I felt like i was about to fall over the whole time. I had no support if i had a force pushing me from the front. I have no idea how anyone can shoot like that accurately
In an ideal scenario, it works great. The old style doesn't really account for things like being charged at or having multiple targets, both of which are pretty common in real life.
I remember watching some crime show about bank robberies, and in one case the robber was doing his own style of the Weaver stance, and that led them to believe the robber was an officer at one point in his life abd they ended up being right. That left them to catching the robber i forgot how they caught him from there but google could probably help if your curious.
This is my stance. My SGT tried to train me differently because if I'm standing slightly sideways my armor couldn't protect me. I'm pretty fast standing Weaver though.
@@DickiMonster you would have it either tucked behind you, but since this method was invented with flintlocks, and then transferred over to cap and ball revolvers, and then again transferred over to automatic handguns… hence the name “handgun” Initially designed for horse mounted officers and cavalry, then made its way into ground officers and they just kind of accepted the proper way to shoot a handgun was with your hand… and then in the 1970s-80s it became the accepted and taught way to shoot a handgun with two hands oppose to the traditional way.
IMHO isoceles > weaver. Isoceles is more natural (subjective) with fewer steps for positioning. But make no mistake, training trumps all. A man with 10 plus years using weaver will most likely outshoot someone who only started with isoceles last year
Thank you for this, I prefer weaver but totally agree that Isosceles is a great stance but training trumps all. I saw a video of a gas station robbery where the clerk was an old dude who shot lots of IPSC and he drew an M1911 into weaver stance and shot all three thugs in just a few seconds.
And in the 99.9% of cases where the shooter isn't wearing armor Weaver gives you better control and quicker target acquisition. You can also shoot a modified Weaver and keep your chest square to the target if you do happen to be wearing a vest or a plate.
My favorite and the one I've trained because of the speed and ability to change body position quickly. Not the most accurate but accuracy isn't evrrything
Your showing him using the interview stance tho, you bend your left elbow kinda like a chicken wing for weaver stance. Chatman stance is the middle ground between the two and also closer to what your animation shows
The weaver stance is not an effective stance, it’s just a stance that was adapted from the military in the early 1900s. The origin comes from the cavalry, as they were in charge of pistol training, and they only shot from horseback, where they had to keep a hand on the reins. Power isosceles is the best pistol grip, where your should a and arms are square with the target. Way better natural point of aim and recoil control.
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Wasn’t expecting that random headshot in a short..
Yea! Spit out my coke when this happened. Had to be a cop. And had to be Tyrone. Damn
Wasn’t really random, the guy fucking shot him 😂
Those was Sierra 7 💀
@@retardednoblemen1956ONG Sierra 7 looking ahh shooting
Me neither
Not simple history showing man's getting domed 💀😂
And a black man to boot😂😂😂😂😂
You can't relax around blacks
Another Stance would be the Ronnie… “Hey guys, I guess that’s it”
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Not just a man, literally the only black person in this video. The white suspect doesn't resist.
Gotta love that one tap lol
Yeah, highly unrealistic though for two reasons: one, people are rarely ever stopped by a single shot from a handgun unless it severs the brain stem/spinal cord/destroys the brain itself; and two, because cops almost always fire multiple rounds at an assailant for the above stated reason as well as because they're under a massive adrenaline dump.
@Colton BigBlood I've watched thousands of bodycam videos over the last 7 years or so and I can count the number of times I've seen someone become immediately incapacitated from a single pistol-caliber round on one hand.
@@cameron8679 okay, count then.
@Colton BigBlood it's replies like these that make me realize how immature a person truly can be. "LOL COUNT THEN DUR", doesn't change the fact that the statements I made are factually correct and anyone who isn't a totally blind idiot can see that.
@@cameron8679 does it usually take you this long to Google an intelligent response? Or are you just insecure with your intelligence? It's okay either way Cameron.
Everyone's talking about the guy getting headshot but no one is talking about the fact man's using a webley in 2023
Aint it like as old as the 1911
@@swedishmeatballs7818 mk 1 webleys were first adopted in service in 1887
@@zoroarka9969 so 30 ish years older
@@swedishmeatballs7818 is when the first webleys were adopted yes
@@swedishmeatballs7818 The Webley series of rifles and pistols are OLDER than the M1911 need me mind you.
I love how the gun they use is a Webley (a gun used in WW1)
It was mained by the royal British army and used a .455 Webley cartridge I think it held 6 shots although I could be mistaken
I love how we still use and love the 1911 (a gun used in WW1)
@@dbio305 We also used planes made of wood and fabric in WW1. Some weapons stand the test of time, but most (including the webley) don't.
Leftover assets from all their WW1 videos, I guess. If it ain't broke...
I imagine just for resource purposes, but it was also the standard sidearm in WWII as well for them
Man's got fuckin' domed at the end there lol
Why the only black guy get domed?
@@randomninja4512 Because Murica' police? 😶
@@randomninja4512 because statistically they are less likely to comply
This is truly one of the most American videos ever
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POV: Your LAPD.
What about my LAPD?
I prefer LSPD
@@dustinfletcher8309Well I prefer PTSD.
(this is a completely satire joke and I am aware of the suffering those with PTSD go through)
I think LAPD has the record for the least shooting for the amount of people they have
@@BombsuitsandkiltsCalifornia resident here:
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hahahahahahahahaa
Ahahahaha
Haha.
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One of the best advantages to weaver is its simplicity when using cover, easy to use in almost all situations without training in different or specific cover shooting stances.
Apparently the only reason he made it was because he was actually having shoulder problems at the time and needed extra support for that reason. Really interesting!
I did not know this fact.
"That's fucking interesting, man. That's fucking interesting."
- "The Dude" from The Big Lebowski
We’re so fucking back
This ain't ifunny 😂
@@hamgobbler9160 Dino month babyyyyy
@@GunkGooberwhat dinosaurs where are they at???
@@hamgobbler9160 speak not of the forbidden place
It would be nice if there was a link to the full video for the shorts.
They'll eventually post it. Just have to be patient
@@AlejandroGarcia-mu4ww The video was already posted
If i can find it imma post it here:
ruclips.net/video/pEYXC1ynb3A/видео.html
Massad Ayoob wrote books on this old style , and continues today on Wilson Combat ,youtube.
@@AlejandroGarcia-mu4wwthe videos been posted, y’know you could just look the guy up like “Jack weaver stance simple history” or somethin like that and it’ll pop up
I just naturally go with the weaver stance. Didn’t know there was an official name for it until a few years ago. Seems to be the most natural stance for moving and defense at close range.
If you have any martial arts experience the foot and shoulder placement probably felt most familiar to you. Many styles like Karate or Taekwondo have similar stances. Boxing is the only style whose guard more resembles the classic isosceles stance.
"He came riding from the south side with a big iron on his hip"🎶🎵
big iron on his hiiiiipppp
i like how people complaining it's a black dude are being racist as though black people aren't allowed to be criminals. stop discriminating?
everyone can be a criminal if they put their mind to it
@Cherry Soda exactly
I'm white, my dad's a drug dealer and my granddad was a pedophile.
But if they were black, they would be just as capable of doing the same crimes, and that's the sort of equality we should be fighting for.
Statically speaking, they got the representation right 😂
@@user_name_redacted at least you aren’t following in either of their footsteps man, right?
@@cherry__Soda *name redacted has left the chat*
My firearms instructor hated people doing this.
He'd yell "WEAVER IS DEAD, GET THAT FOOT BACK YOU BASTARDS"
Learned to shoot square to keep my vest wode and shoot with my body not my arm.
For civilians who usually aren't wearing body armor though - it's a fantastic stance. More natural with better balance than Isocoles.
It also tends to make you instinctively lean forwards a little, which is good because a lot of beginners lean backwards away from the gun which is awful.
Though when not wearing armor there's solid argument that for pistols a one handed inline stance is best as it presents the smallest profile.
@@matthewblackwood9653 I hate when people criticize each other for shooting weaver/modified weaver. Literally let people shoot how they are comfortable. “wElL dOnT bLaME mE wHeN U gIt sHoT cAuSE yOu wErEnT tAkTiCkLe” as if we have a mountain of data proving that shooting a particular stance makes a person more likely to die in a self defense scenario.
Standing orthodox is comfortable. That's how I train MMA why wouldn't I shoot like that too? I have great mobility from that position.
@@rogermcbadlad2812 you’re 100% right, people think weaver is dangerous because you expose yourself, well it doesn’t really matter if you’re good at shooting in that position
The only thing that is dead is people shooting from uncomfortable positions.
Military personnel are taught this style, but I never knew what it was called.
While usually modified today for much more squared stance and standing up straighter to account for body armor, this is still the most common handgun technique taught today
I use the weaver stance when I hold my iPad playing CoD Mobile. Helps me control the recoil.
i do the same with the ps controller when playing cod
Do the SIDEWAYS GANGSTA STANCE next!
like used for old timey duels to present a smaller siluette?
@@thecursed01no lol the gun tipped sideways like thugs do 😂😂😂
@W Giver that's not a stance, that's a hold.
@@TheRamenSeal I never called it a stance bud
@@TheRamenSeal What about the BUFFALO STANCE?!?!
Hahaha that black man getting random headshot, i was so much not expecting this 😂
Inclusion 👍😁
Random? The guy fucking shot the cop 😂
Not exactly random but still unexpected lol
simple history is slowly but surely becoming an animated gun channel. NICE!
I can't easily/comfortably shoot in any other stances.
This is definitely the most comfortable and versatile(imo).
set your feet like your about to this a punch. most recoil control comes from the Pinky and ring finger. squeeze with those.
I found more control over full power 357 mag revolvers, by squeezing the thumb-middle finger the most.
That headshot deserves a sub.
This is the most natural stance for me.
I love how they depict the thugs in the car scene. truly life like accurate of probability.
Best stance for monuverability
Well he got the characters at the end accurate
When I was a kid, we rented an old farmhouse to a deputy sheriff. Out in the pasture behind the house was a big washout that formed a natural backstop, and a lot of the deputies came out to shoot.
I was in & out of there twice a day checking cattle and got invited to shoot with them often.
Developed a keen interest in S&W wheel guns and got some damn good training before I was 16!
This is the best stance for me. I can transition quickly into any direction and have better recoil management.
Almost universally not taught anymore. Around 2005 the isosceles stance really took off and is by far the most widely used pistol stance instructed today.
The Franku stance is superior.
No. Weaver or Isosceles are the top tier. Having your feet apart, one foot in front of the other is a far more stable and athletic stance more conducive to tactical operation. Isosceles beats out weaver, though, with the lockout of the support arm for greater stability.
RIP Randy Weaver
"Sold a sawn off shotgun, to a Deputy. Don't shoot me down, oh don't shoot me down. I got a wife and kids on Ruby Ridge, please don't shoot me down."
Weaver was developed before body armor was something readily available and used widely by law enforcement, so having your body at an angle decreases the size of your silhouette. Isosceles is more popular now since it points the chest fully forward so that your body armor can have the largest area of coverage on your silhouette.
That headshot at the end... ✋ 👌
How tf did people hold guns before this genius weaver figured it out ?! 😂😂😂
Screw the feet! Just keep nose over toes and good push/pull on your grip.
Not all of us are that into feet, bro. But you do you lmao
Weaver stance was apparently made just to compensate an injury. But is a good idea especially if you don't have armor on.
The fact that this had to be “developed” when it seems like the most comfortable position seems odd
You clearly haven’t been around enough new shooters. The stances some of these people bust out shock me.
They made fun of him until he started winning 😂
My dad taught me this stance when I first started shooting
Got damn that ending was crazy
Was taught to shoot a handgun like this, never knew it was called the Weaver stance
I still prefer Semi-Weaver. Makes you a smaller target and allows you to dodge easier.
Those who shoot IPSC today have left that style and switched to the box style, then you keep your feet in the same place even if you need to change targets to the right or left.
This stance is especially common for those training with body armor.
It's definitely not lmao. Using weaver stance with body armor means you're now presenting an un-armored path to the heart right in front of your target.
So simple. Yet not a single pig at Uvalde could use this stance
dont worry, If a gunman is shooting at you, help will be there in 77 minutes
After uvalde im questioning samdy hook, jonrs was right
Old News
they would have had to step into the fight first.
Apparently it's better to go for this position over the Isosceles if you're not wearing body armor, because it makes you a smaller target
That ending cracked me up
Never knew that had a name, it is just the way I hold a pistol two handed naturally.
That head shot was nasty.
But yeah i mainly use a weaver stance.
When i went to get my Concealed permit. The instructor made me shoot in that "bow legged 1970s" still of shooting. I felt like i was about to fall over the whole time. I had no support if i had a force pushing me from the front. I have no idea how anyone can shoot like that accurately
In an ideal scenario, it works great. The old style doesn't really account for things like being charged at or having multiple targets, both of which are pretty common in real life.
I was expecting the second guy to get shot too
I remember watching some crime show about bank robberies, and in one case the robber was doing his own style of the Weaver stance, and that led them to believe the robber was an officer at one point in his life abd they ended up being right. That left them to catching the robber i forgot how they caught him from there but google could probably help if your curious.
The weezer stance
"WEAVER STANCE!" 😂😂😂
It also gives you a smaller silhouette and the none dominant hand under the pistol protects your upper vitals to some extent. 😊
This is my stance. My SGT tried to train me differently because if I'm standing slightly sideways my armor couldn't protect me. I'm pretty fast standing Weaver though.
Hey, I own that gun. Webley MK VI manufacture date, 1916. Why did they choose that?
That guys got a dope name
that car is like lanes wide bro
Fellow weaver here
Charlie murphy got superfreaked😮😮😮
Bro dodged the bullet coming at him
lol I do this naturally. I didn’t know someone “invented” this way of standing while you shoot. 😂
Think you forgot to animate that cop shooting the other 6 rounds
So Cal Deputy here: We’re all trained to shoot in the Weaver stance. This is the way….
Oooh a basic stability stance - let's make it sound all fancy shmancy!
Most people dont even know that handguns were designed to be shot only with one hand… that was the whole point
So where do you put your other hand 🤨
@@DickiMonster you would have it either tucked behind you, but since this method was invented with flintlocks, and then transferred over to cap and ball revolvers, and then again transferred over to automatic handguns… hence the name “handgun”
Initially designed for horse mounted officers and cavalry, then made its way into ground officers and they just kind of accepted the proper way to shoot a handgun was with your hand… and then in the 1970s-80s it became the accepted and taught way to shoot a handgun with two hands oppose to the traditional way.
No, the point was to be a more affordable, and manuverable option than a rifle, litteraly why it was made
is this the same for rifles and shotguns too?
you could try it, nobody is stopping you.
IMHO isoceles > weaver. Isoceles is more natural (subjective) with fewer steps for positioning. But make no mistake, training trumps all. A man with 10 plus years using weaver will most likely outshoot someone who only started with isoceles last year
Thank you for this, I prefer weaver but totally agree that Isosceles is a great stance but training trumps all. I saw a video of a gas station robbery where the clerk was an old dude who shot lots of IPSC and he drew an M1911 into weaver stance and shot all three thugs in just a few seconds.
@@rogermcbadlad2812 Impressive! it truly shows how adaptable the body is regardless of form. Practice is key
Is this saying no one used the irons before the stance?
The stance is pretty similar to Katana quick draw stance.
Yes it is similar to the Bato style
This is like "when was aiming was invented" Meme😂
Any relationship to Doodles Weaver, he had some experience in shotguns.
The voiceover guy sounds like Solid Snake
love the TND at the end
I prefer the beaver stance
My favorite pistol stance
The weaver is not used anymore. Most use the IPSC grip these days
Standing square to the target places your body armor in between the target and your organs
And in the 99.9% of cases where the shooter isn't wearing armor Weaver gives you better control and quicker target acquisition. You can also shoot a modified Weaver and keep your chest square to the target if you do happen to be wearing a vest or a plate.
I Love It !
A lot of time the body naturally drops into an isosceles stance in reaction to a threat even if trained in weaver.
the other stances being tactical turtle and center axis relock
My favorite and the one I've trained because of the speed and ability to change body position quickly. Not the most accurate but accuracy isn't evrrything
that mf got ICED
This guy sounds like the EA sports announcers brother
I’m way more accurate with the weaver stance than the isosceles. It just feels more natural.
Your showing him using the interview stance tho, you bend your left elbow kinda like a chicken wing for weaver stance. Chatman stance is the middle ground between the two and also closer to what your animation shows
I've always known this as "the shooter stance"
nobody's commenting on that 'leather slap match' how one man just kept shooting and hitting shots while the others missed by a mile.
Tosh should weigh in...'is it racist?'
been using this for years and didn't even know it
Boom, headshot
Also makes you a smaller target
Finally, a realistic scenario.
The weaver stance is not an effective stance, it’s just a stance that was adapted from the military in the early 1900s. The origin comes from the cavalry, as they were in charge of pistol training, and they only shot from horseback, where they had to keep a hand on the reins.
Power isosceles is the best pistol grip, where your should a and arms are square with the target. Way better natural point of aim and recoil control.
Lmfao you shooting like a woman
Yeah I’m leaving a like. I fucking love simple history man.
Weaver stance is obsolete- Jerry Miculek🤷🏻♂️
Bro the roles of the peeps should’ve been reversed 💀