The peanut has been cultivated in South America by some archaeological estimates for up to 8,000 years. If people are becoming ill from peanut butter it most likely has more to do with the addition of hydrogenated oils and/or the extreme processing into a fine paste that doesn't require chewing then it does with the actual peanut itself.
8,000 years is the blink of an eye from an evolutionary perspective. Not ancestrally consistent. Also doesn’t change the anti nutrients within the peanut. Phytic acid, lectins, aflatoxins, mycotoxins, etc. Nutrient blocking, cancer promoting.
Basically you can make an argument for anything being bad for you .. I ate meat, eggs, cheese and a few veggies. Plus peanut butter (sugar free). And drank black coffee, green tea and water. Lost 50+ pounds in 6 months and basically got ripped. 1 hour swim and 30 min body weights a day. It’s what works for you. Certain food will spike your blood sugar differently to me. Some foods I can tolerate and you can’t .. and vice versa. The “perfect diet” is different for everyone. That much is obvious.
@@Denis-z6s The best approach, as described by Scoobie1961, emphasizes the importance of conducting personal research and forming your own conclusions, especially regarding matters like diet and fitness. While these channels can educate about bodily functions, it's crucial not to blindly accept information rather actively try to understand the information. Consider the source's intentions-such as fitness influencers promoting supplements or profit-driven food companies. Scrutinize health information carefully, using these channels as guides to explore both sides of an issue and uncover the truth for yourself. Why should anyone care about your health more than yourself?
@@WildPrimal23and carnivores do the same. Calorie deficit. His point was “peanut butter is totally fine To my body. If you have a peanut butter allergy it will Kill you. Bodies are different. Act accordingly.”
But one thing is common, the ideal diet does not consist of eating processed foods and high in refined sugar items. The ideal diet always narrow down to eating whole foods. That much is certain.
That’s because Paul thinks what he thinks is healthy is healthy, but what everybody else does is unhealthy. Everybody Hass to find their way to do what works for them. What works for me? Is pure carnivore and coffee. Vegetables don’t work for me. Legumes don’t work for me sweeteners don’t work for me. People don’t know what doesn’t work for them because they won’t quit everything and start from scratch and just do carnivore. No one’s really allergic to meat. Nobody really has issues with it. It’s other things. I found out. Spices and pepper melted. Fat vegetables were inflaming me as well as certain sweeteners. I have healed so much just by eating meat and eggs. I’ve lost three sizes in at 65. I feel amazing. Better than I did at 59.
I’d love to get on board with you both to spread all of this information to the general public! I had a lifetime of health issues since 7th grade that finally got better after a month of ‘animal based’ …more people need to know about this information! I have a bachelor’s of science in Public Health and health promotion and a minor in nutrition. I live in Houston, Texas and it’s hard finding a job where the superiors believe in this information. I am a living testimonial that all of this works!!
This is anecdotal evidence. I've been sick since I was a baby. Both of my parents ate an abundance of animal products, so it was what I grew up with. I hunted my own things, ate organs, bone marrow and I honestly got worse. To the point I was unable to move my limbs. I changed and now I got rid of supposed chronic illnesses. Does this mean whatever I do is the one true way that will save everyone and get rid of every disease known to man? No.
We are all creatures of habit and even if it is detrimental to our health. I have family living in Houston and Chick Fe Le is there food of choice and they have health issues. I keep my opinions to myself and accepting there food choices. I have to accept the world I live in and then there is vaccinations. We are in the great poison and a war on meat.
@@Reeeeves Except for one thing buddy. YOUR LYING. And the answer yes amd if you actually tried it ONCE in your life ("correctly" not the internet version of "keto" or "carnivore") you would see the difference. Your ancestors who didn't have the correct genetics for things like fasting, eating red meats, etc. they died off, so every human today has these genes, which is just one example of the many scientific reasons we are all biologically wired to thrive on a specific diet. How specific will vary but based upon how good the individual actually want to feel. It's hard to see the light when your surrounded by darkness
I just recently started this diet and already feel so much benefits. I have one problem tho which someone of you could help me with. The only problem for me on this diet is the digestion. I have very watery diarrhea and stomach (predominantly intestine) pain. Good to mention that I'm transitioning from very very bad diet.. Will it go away if i stick to it? I really don't want to throw towel in, cause I experience so many benefits and in my eyes it's the best diet for humans. Other than that I experience very very mild allergic reaction to fruit (i usually eat it with honey) in form of very very mild itching in mouth. Do someone here have some advice?
Good discussion. I was a kickboxer/soccer player for years and ran into trouble in my mid thirties. Got a hair mineral test and showed I was burning minerals really fast, which is tied to the psychi/addictive patterns. I only lift heavy once a week now, walk and do light things over the rest and everything in my life is improving.
I’m in the same position. Low magnesium and iodine. Used up all my trace minerals like chromium, boron, vanadium, etc. I’m trying to take it easy and replace lost minerals. But my body just keeps throwing them out. Idk what to do
I love peanut butter (high oleic) and never had any issues eating it, but I gave it up a few months ago. I wasn't so bothered about the phytic acid because I never ate it with anything where I wanted to get nutrition, but I decided it was time to get away from the oxalates and lectins. I particularly enjoyed peanut butter with dark chocolate, but I gave up the chocolate as well. Edit: Just read someone's comment about aflatoxins and mycotoxins. Yep, that was the other reason I stopped eating peanuts. Actually, most nuts, but I still occasionally eat macadamias.
Finally someone who knows good peanut butter (high oleic). Peanut growers and processors use rigorous government enforced production, storage, and inspection standards to ensure that aflatoxin risk is minimized in peanut based products. Eliminating aflatoxin on the farm and during crop storage is the key to preventing contamination. Aflatoxin is a naturally occurring substance and can never be reduced to “zero.” Human health is protected by meeting low internationally set safety thresholds so that a person’s chances of exposure to aflatoxin are minimized. Rigorous cleaning, shelling, sorting and blanching (removal of peanut skins) are key steps in identifying and eliminating damaged peanuts which may have developed aflatoxin from getting into the food supply. Aflatoxin does not form in peanut butter once it is packed in containers, so if the production process is safe then the final product will be too when it reaches the consumer. Any contaminated products that fail food safety standards are removed from sale.
@@burritodog3634 No, I didn't just sit there and eat peanut butter and chocolate. I did eat it regularly. Unsweetened 92% chocolate and unsweetened organic peanut butter. Many reckon that would be full of minerals and nutrients. Certainly wasn't like a confectionery, sweet or the sort of thing a 10 year old would eat. I doubt many 10 year olds would even touch 92% chocolate. My portion size was 1/5th of a bar of 92% chocolate, which was 25g of 90% or 20g of 92%. Not whole bars of chocolate! Peanut butter was typically around 50g. Not exactly huge portions.
I appreciate the positive / respectful dialog & constructive approach. I’ve learned a lot from both of them. I am a little suspicious of Dave. He was the guy that said erythritol was a good sweetener for bullet proof coffee. (I don’t drink coffee at all anymore and my life has improved dramatically) He also doesn’t really look all that healthy. I’m going to buy his book and study it just so I can hear what he is saying about exercise. I reserve the right to be wrong and I’ll afford that to Dave as well but I am suspect of achieving meaningful physical / mental health with such limited exercise. FYI - we are all addicts. Addicted to something - some just have consequences! None the less - these guys are pioneers so I thank them both for putting it out there and admire the fact that they ripped the fabric of sky open and both made a ton of money doing it!
Dave, the King of Hacks, Asprey spends all the free time he saves from not doing cardio by thinking of ways to sell shit to people. tell them what they want to hear, Dave. 5 minutes of exercise is better than 1 hour. yayyyy! glad you can afford to buy his book to find out more. 2 scientific studies back it up! Work Smarter, not Harder -- the Mantra of a New Millennium! it's how the Egyptians built the Great Pyramid -- only 5 minutes per day!
He looks like absolute dogshit and people are lined up to follow his advice like lemmings. Look at all the comments here bragging about disordered eating that Dave has got them on. “Thanks Dave, I only eat meat and now I look as good as you!” They’re rehashing the Atkins playbook and it is SO transparent.
I am so glad that I found you from watching the minimalist podcast..both of you have helped me to where you wouldn't even know who I am, compared to who I was. I cant thank you enough.
Oh my, you guys!!! Thank you sooo much! I am a 72 year old former ultra runner!! I’m not even 1/2 way through this video and you both have spoken to my running addiction! Thank you for slapping me I back to reality! Thank you!!
The cardio thing bugs me too. I'm sitting in an office eight hours a day. If i was on my feet all day, then i probably wouldn't feel the need to hit the bike or the gym every day.
Good to see Dave recognize the sunlight and carb connection. Paul seems think everyone on earth needs to eat tropical fruit all year round...eat local and seasonal is the real way to eat.
@@Reeeeves this is such a naive, tired stretch of a sad argument.... since when can one not do Some things more ancestral and Some things more modern.... living ancestral can mean few, some, most or all of the things one does. Quit being so narrowminded.
@@aparksmusic Then you're picking and choosing? "The True Ancestral Way" implies a lot. Isn't it narrow minded to discredit the advancements we have made now? Varieties of fresh produce are available to all and it's not a bad thing. Since then, life expectancy has more than doubled. To me, it's just silly to limit oneself. If you want to eat like primal ancestors, then animal products shouldn't be a big part of your diet. Pretty much excluding dairy from our diets. Meat and eggs were only pretty much to fill that gap when the colder days hit when food was less plentiful. Don't toss around primal if you don't know what you're talking about.
@@Reeeeves wtf are you ranting about lol. My point was that there are ancestral ways that are beneficial to us still as humans and obviously technological and medical advancements etc that benefit us as well and that being absolute on either side is naive. You implied that because one uses their phone, they live in other ancestral ways or that any of those ways were the sole if even the main reason life expectancy was shorter back then... you think diet and not things like disease and just barbaric human behavior being a normality, or wildlife in general, werent all reasons, too? I stand by my original point that you are narrow minded.
Two intelligent guys. Love this conversation. Speaking of financial food insecurity: I watched a documentary once where 3 white guys tried to live on a buck a day in a third world country. They ate only the vegetables that their land produced. After two days of being hungry all the time and terrible sleep, they discovered that the locals who couldn't afford meat just bought lard. Life improved from that moment. Where I live (also a third world country) real butter is crazy expensive, so I make my own tallow and lard.
These videos are great. When I was doing "dirty keto", I would eat unsweetened peanut butter straight from the jar with a spoon. I would even drink the peanut oil inside the jar. I feel much better on a meat-based diet.
Paul, Would love to hear an interview with you and Dr. Lustig. Especially you and him discussing Honey and whole fruit consumption. Just hope that he is a good mood!🙂
Peanut butter was one of the last things to go. I'm running out of things to no longer call food. Drinking coffee and gorilla glue #4 is all I have left. From my cold dead hands. But I feel fantastic and no longer have a food addiction. Feeling this great at 56 is a small price to pay for eating the tastiest steaks of my life. It never gets old.
Because nobody showed you how you can grow herbs and make amazing great herb teas ….. that increase your health. Coffee is acidic. Cancer likes an acid environment. Sometimes your body needs a break
Great conversation! Dave's research, writings and products were initially responsible for me delving into animal based eating after being a vegan for many years. Thank you.
This was so fun to watch. What a great combo you two are. Would love to see more of these. Lot's of laughs, so much education and very respectful towards each other's opinions.
Really interesting discussion, thanks so much. Paul, I would love you to explore the impact of fructose and NAFLD further - a discussion with Robert Lustig would be fantastic if you can get him to come on.
NAFLD is a choline deficiency. Choline transports fat from the liver. But because everyone wants to blame fructose they ignore the importance of choline.
Ocd sufferer here and ADHD. Had a bunch of peanut , was in brain hijack hell for two days. Peanuts are super high in omega 6 and super low in omega 3 and highhhh in free glutamate which is just HELL for mental disorders , esp anxiety disorders and adhd
@@zacw812 keto for my blood type. Find out your blood type and if you are a secretor or non secretor and learn the food chart . Make it keto or carnivore accordingly.🙏🌟
2 non dogmatic nutritional geniuses collaborating over what they believe to be the optimum human diet in front of our eyes for free. What a time to be alive. Great content and as always Paul, thank you for caring enough to keep digging and spreading the information!
Paul is non-dogmatic? Just ask him about his non-scientific belief that fructose is good for you and organ meats are necessary for health..without any actual proof either is true...
As for Dave.. the man is a charlatan who makes obscene amounts of money off his so called superior coffee and mct oil. He’s a businessman not a nutrition expert..
Removing gluten from my diet 15 years ago (in my early 50s) cured my migraines that I had suffered from since childhood. Surprisingly, caffeine and aspirin only made them much worse (acetaminophen was the only that that worked prior to gluten-free) and removing any of the other supposed food connections worked did not work. Gluten was the key and no doctor ever recommended removing it. I only chanced upon an Italian study linking gluten to migraines - thank god.
I can eat fruit it doesn’t bother me and then my issues but I choose not to because I don’t need the carbohydrates. I’ve lost three sizes in one year of getting plants out of my life. My arthritis is better. My asthma is better my lower G.I. issues for over 20 years and diagnosed is 100% better. One time I tried to eat fresh vegetables and my hip hurts so bad I could not walk literally could not walk. I don’t do that anymore. People need to find out what the inflammation is coming from.
48:56 You can compare yourself to a mouse 🐀 We are all different in some ways, so of us like beans ,meats ,eggs, cheese, yogurt, fruit and vegetables, others like beer ,wine and whiskey/liquor 🥃. But we all need vitamins and from our diet. We ain't mice.rat 🐁🐀🐀🐁
I just realized something in the Bible that is relevant to the fruit and vegetables discussion. From the beginning in the garden of Eden, God gave humans fruit to eat and He gave animals vegetables to eat. Genesis 1:29 ESV - And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. Genesis 1:30 ESV - And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so.
This Scripture is referring to before the fall of man, who was to have dominion. There was no death of creations that had spirit in them (animals/man/etc). Once the fall happened, which was not eve eating a piece of fruit btw, the earth was cursed and death set in. Now animals could and would kill for food as well as man. After the fall, man was given laws about what to eat and not eat. Then Christ came, died for sinners, fulfilled His own Law, and Grace set in!! It will one day soon be restored to how it once was. No more death and killing. GOD BLESS.
Trouble is everything changed after the fall & even more so after the flood. Now we need more meat. Gen 2:17 from the time of the fall, “thou shalt surely die”.
@@cornflowertoile3026 Yes, agreed. The Bible also says this. Romans 14:2 ESV - One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.
I imagine it would be hard to know if they added soy or cereal into your ground beef. Also you need animal fat to release the bile necessary to digest the beef properly.
So funny how you mentioned Boulder Co. I grew up in the mountains just west of Boulder. I’m 54 now and trying to learn the proper way to eat not the grains And vegan craze I grew up with. I love beef!!!!
Great chat . But re peanut butter : The amount of aflatoxins in peanut butter is strictly regulated in many countries to ensure consumer safety. In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has set a maximum allowable level of aflatoxins in peanut butter at 20 parts per billion (ppb). This limit is set to minimize risk while considering what is achievable given the best agricultural and manufacturing practices. Most commercially available peanut butter products contain aflatoxin levels that are much lower than this limit, thanks to advanced agricultural practices, careful selection of peanuts, and rigorous testing procedures. Manufacturers often test for aflatoxins both in the raw peanuts and in the final product to ensure safety. Despite the natural occurrence of aflatoxins in peanuts, modern processing techniques significantly reduce their presence in peanut butter, keeping it well within safe consumption limits set by regulatory agencies.
Haha - fun discussion! Paul I totally remember the Boulder of the late 90s and the scene with vegans/vegetarians and wheatgrass and the endless running/cycling - I was there too! All the wrong things for the right reasons! 🤣🤣🤣
1:04:01 A lot of people that work at fast food restaurants don’t really understand how the food is farmed or put together. They’re not in the marketing department. I wish Chipotle did not use rice bran oil on, most of the menu. That’s great that they’re an investor in Zero Acre Farms but that kind of seems more like for financial business purposes. The meat is not advertised on the website as pasture raised or grass fed. The produce is not advertised as organic. It is advertised that they’re an investor in Zero Acre farms on the website. Farm Burgers cook their grass fed, grass finished burgers with tallow.
Great convo. A missing piece of this puzzle is that a major crux of the nutrient dense regenerative farming movement is that most agronomic practices impede photosynthesis - and the levels of reducing monosaccharides (glucose/fructose) to disaccharides sucrose is completely different in a truly healthy plant versus a plant with hidden hunger. Leaf brix is an indirect measurement of plant health/nutrient density because it is a direct measurement of sucrose levels. Furthermore, high brix plants with streamlined sugar synthesis then synthesize proteins, lipids and secondary metabolites more efficiently as well - and very crucial to this conversation is that the secondary metabolite profile is totally different in a truly healthy plant. Would be very curious to see research into whether high brix plants with optimal secondary metabolite production and thus specific phytoalexin profiles have the same in vitro levels of antinutrients / in vivo effect of anti-nutrition.
Paul Saladino is 45 years old, Dave Asprey is 49, David Goggins is 48. These three people are wildly different in how they live their lives. I'd put Paul at the top of who is living the healthiest lifestyle and also looks the healthiest. Goggins looks healthy, but has some serious orthopedic issues.
Try to get peanut butter made from dry roasted Valencia peanuts. Valencia peanuts are grown ABOVE GROUND in bushes in arid regions of Arizona, New Mexico and west Texas. Thus they don’t have the mold / aflatoxin problem that other peanuts have. Also, find a brand that dry roasts the Valencia nuts. The high heat destroys up to 80% of the lectins.
When I was on keto, I thought nuts were healthy and I would eat them all the time. Thankfully, I saw the light and don’t do that anymore. I got my husband off of peanuts. He bought a 25 pound bag and would sit there night after night and eat them. He gained so much weight.
I love Dave’s joke about James. My girlfriend used to do this with me. She hated those glass blown like Russian type Christmas ornaments. Like I mean hated. And so what did I get her for Christmas? A whole set of Rudolph glass blown ornaments. She laughed and loved it. Glad you guys have a good sense of humor my girlfriend, and I would go back-and-forth doing stuff like that. My family never understood it. They would say like, but she hates those. I know I would say, that’s why I bought them, and they just scratch their head.
I was literally just having this conversation over this past weekend with two friends who refused to believe me when I told them about how unhealthy peanut butter is
@Bon Summers My college roommate was a toxicologist he did his thesis on peanut butter and all peanut butter has aflatoxins and Mycotoxins in them. Fungal metabolites that you can't cook out and cause cancer yum
@@KeyofDavid5778Aren't they literally in everything? This is the equivalent to saying people have died from water poisoning, let's not drink water. That's why there is quality control. Because, according to some papers, mycotoxins (like aflatoxins) most often contaminate products of animal origin. Look at that. Can't cook it out either. Guess you meat eaters are screwed.
I don’t have any digestive or ill effects from eating peanut butter. I eat peanut butter without any added oils, sugar, or salt. I’m a lucky guy I guess.
I get Paul’s take on coffee but I see it this way- yes, you will not absorb as many minerals if drink a coffee with your breakfast. But if all you’re having is coffee, then there’s no minerals for the phytic acid to steal. And Paul, you might not like caffeine, but it’s a phenomenal drug with real benefits if used intelligently. Simply put, it makes life better. Studies show that it is not only the nutritional quality of your food, but how YOU FEEL about the food that makes a tremendous difference on how it actually effects your body and mind. Us coffee drinkers absolutely love and enjoy a cup. It’s not a toxic and harmful drug that’s gonna hurt us. Therefore the benefits far outweigh the downsides. One or two cups of coffee will likely not have any measurable effect on mineral status so long as you are eating a well balanced diet of mineral rich foods and maybe popping a bit of extra zinc and magnesium if coffee really makes you pee a lot.
I love how all the advertisements for Dave's podcasts are pictures of him almost 10 years ago Umm... why not just show a pic of him today? Oh that's right, maybe because he looks like a 60 year old man? And he's "biohacking his health" - so we should definitely take his advice!!!
Hey Paul, great discussion. Just noticed a slip-up that is not at all important to the content, but thought I’d let you know: You said you were glad your peroneal artery still worked after overtraining on the bike for years. And mentioned how that artery is important for men. I was confused. Took me a minute to realize you were talking about the pudendal artery, not the peroneal (which is in the calf)
You feel that way because your ‘carnivore’ lifestyle is disordered eating. The rest of us don’t have an orgasmic reaction to PB&J. This is an alarming statement and you give it like it’s an endorsement.
No more condoms for me!! Fyi- I was eating at least 3 cups of raw almonds, and sometimes walnuts, per week, for about a year. Suddenly I noticed when I'd have the urge to urinate it was sudden and so urgent I could barely make it to the bathroom, whereas before I could hold it for several hours, if needed. I went to Gyno and had an ultrasound, which was clean and was told "that sometimes happens during/after menopause." 🙄 I KNEW it was something else because it was sudden. It dawned on me it was the massive amount of almonds/nuts.. not even knowing yet of oxalates. I stopped eating nuts. It's been TWO weeks, and the emergency urination sensation is just about Gone! I looked it up today, rhe relation between oxalate toxin and urination, and what do you know... it can cause irritation of bladder and every symptom I had!
Coffee is low in oxalates. The types of fruits and the honey that Paul advocates are relatively low in oxalates. That's a good point of agreement. To me, they both look healthy; they just have different genetics (and Paul lives in a sunny seaside environment).
The running argument is interesting. I agree that training for things like ultras and marathons is probably not healthy overall but I don’t understand how being extremely fit can be a bad thing. I am a 36 year old runner and I run for the love of trying to improve and set new personal records. Of course this is an addiction like a lot of things in life but it brings people so much joy and fulfillment. There isn’t a world where you can compare doing 15 mins of cardio per day versus being able to run a major marathon in under 3 hours after doing lots of hard training.
What I’ve noticed is that a lot of “specialist” have a bias on what is healthy or good for you based on how it affects their own body..I don’t have any food allergies..the only thing my body doesn’t like is cow milk because of lactose..other than that I can eat anything in moderation..even sugar..I don’t add white table sugar anymore as a sweetener to anything but my baked goods when I make desert because I would much rather consume those sugar grams in a desert once in a while. My gut is healthy because I consume everything and I don’t have any mental blocks on any food being bad for me..I suffered with acne til 35 because of cow milk..your skin will tell you if your gut is healthy..as above so below…I’ve heard so many vegans that end up so unhealthy because of mental blocks and an unhealthy relationship with food..toxic plastic or pesticide sugar laced foods..a lack of biodiversity in the gut ..and all of the veggies that tear up their guts ..your body acts just like a bank account..not everyone can afford to drive a Bentley..stay in your own body bracket..but lifestyle/diet is not a one size fits all. All food is energy..it is all good for someone..find what works for you..and running is designed for survival..stressful environments..fight or flight..not a way to stay fit..so many runners ..running for so called health Ive net are not that healthy either.
peanut butter is rich in nutrients and a decent protein source. It's also loaded with fiber, vitamins, and minerals, although this doesn't seem as significant when you consider the high calorie load. It is perfectly fine to incorporate moderate amounts of peanut butter into a healthful diet. These characters appear to be crypto-paleo faddists....
nice ive been waiting for you to do another podcast with dave. you are my two favorite health nerds. i pretty much eat animal based but with bulletproof coffee lol. always wanted to hear paul dig into dave with some harder technical questions like you did a bit here. you should do another podcast with him, get him to bring some studies so you can duke it out.
@@carniv5812 yeah what about black seed oil, Nigella sativa? I have an unopened small bottle on my counter I’m eyeing suspiciously. Supposedly it’s anti-inflam and immune-boosting. However, traditionally, it has been taken by people where it grows natively, India, as a seed or 2 chewed daily. So … the traditional way makes more sense to me now.
Peanut butter in general makes my stomach hurt BUT I will use organic peanut butter powder in baking recipes on Keto. Just a tbsp here and there. I don't see or have an issue with that. And sometimes, that taste is just about the yum factor.
Last year i heard so much good things about kale, so i added some frosen sliced kale into my smoothies, first few days no problem but on third day, few hours after i got stomach pains, bloated and fever.. I got so sick, I was in bed for 8 days, twice as bad as any flu i ever had in my life..
@@madeleinegrayson8372 maybe the frosen kale had earth in it? 🤔 But could have been food poisoning yes but I never puked just had crazy fever 8 days straight
Yeah I think most of us that have been around a while have dabbled in kale and oats….unfortunately for me I’ve been doing carnivore and reintroduced peanut butter as a food coma device at night. I just can’t have nice things it seems lol
Valencia variety peanuts are grown in drier climates in New Mexico and Texas, so they are far less prone to the mold that produces aflatoxin which requires a more humid environment that other peanut varieties are grown in. When raw, the peanut's delicate polyunsaturated fats are not yet oxidized/rancid, and when sprouted reduce the phytic acid. If one is going to consume peanut butter, best bet is raw, freshly-ground, organic, sprouted, valencia peanuts with a bit of raw organic unfiltered honey.
Well, you're not supposed to be eating large amounts of fruit everyday if you are diabetic. You do keto to reverse diabetes (preferably of the meat-based variety, no soy, no seed oils, no vegetables, no grains, no legumes, no nuts) and then you include fruit when you have a healthy A1C.
Great fucking interview!! Will not agree with everything, but it was good see respectful and scientific backed info. Most was agreed anyway except for the coffee, and fructose. I still believe having a higher A1C on Carnivore isn’t necessarily a bad thing if the reticulocytes are high which shows longer living RBCS, which could cause a higher A1C
You should do an interview with Dr. Richard Johnson of the University of Denver regarding his research dealing with fructose metabolism in the liver and how it triggers obesity, uric acid, and fatty liver disease.
Keep up the good work, Paul! Currently in process of helping my parents and brother make the long term switch to animal base. While it’s SO dumb that IG sensors your content - I know for a fact that those of us whose health is dramatically transforming can’t keep silent about it! Word of mouth multiplication is happening 🔥
I think a big difference between these two is paul is all about FOOD, and dave looks at food as something he has to eat to survive and that supplements and these crazy body scans are more important than say “the tiny nutrients jn honey cmon paul”. Whats missing here is we are not all rich and can barely afford things as is… so yes those tiny nutrients in honey so serve a purpose for us. We cant afford millions of supplements like he can
I stopped watching Dave cause he endlessly suggests using super expensive devices and supplements Sorry I don’t have a hyperbaric chamber or an Ora ring
You guys should check out Brian Johnson just for curiosity’s sake. An obsessive biohacker dude who’s taken it to the next level….I’d actually be curious to see how he’d go in a meat based diet rather than the gruel and high fibre mix he lives on
"Some people really can have coffee right before bed" Yes, and in Mexico we call them Brazilians ;-) I have never met anyone love coffee more than the folks in Brazil. It is both endearing and crazy at the same time.
The peanut has been cultivated in South America by some archaeological estimates for up to 8,000 years. If people are becoming ill from peanut butter it most likely has more to do with the addition of hydrogenated oils and/or the extreme processing into a fine paste that doesn't require chewing then it does with the actual peanut itself.
8,000 years is the blink of an eye from an evolutionary perspective. Not ancestrally consistent. Also doesn’t change the anti nutrients within the peanut. Phytic acid, lectins, aflatoxins, mycotoxins, etc. Nutrient blocking, cancer promoting.
Yes its true. But they put a spoon in the soup. Or use it as a condiment
So why do you think it hasn't been giving people problems that whole time?
@@Yamaazaka Exactly. Look at the egyptian mummes autopsies - WRECKED. Just terrible health.
who says it wasnt giving people issues 8000 years ago too? alcohol brewing has been around for a long time as well so is that fine and healthy?
Carnivore here - nothing makes my stomach feel worse than peanut butter. The problem is it tastes so damn good
With best foods mayonaise and butter on toast.
It really does.
Doesnt taste that good without added sugar
@@jacksparrow8186 skippy probably has more sugar than peanuts. No wonder that stuff is literal like cocaine to me.
@@diglo123 lol same
30:10 - peanut butter
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You guys have great chemistry. Looking forward to the next James/Dave podcast
Basically you can make an argument for anything being bad for you ..
I ate meat, eggs, cheese and a few veggies. Plus peanut butter (sugar free). And drank black coffee, green tea and water.
Lost 50+ pounds in 6 months and basically got ripped. 1 hour swim and 30 min body weights a day.
It’s what works for you. Certain food will spike your blood sugar differently to me. Some foods I can tolerate and you can’t .. and vice versa.
The “perfect diet” is different for everyone. That much is obvious.
Nice one 👍
@@Denis-z6s The best approach, as described by Scoobie1961, emphasizes the importance of conducting personal research and forming your own conclusions, especially regarding matters like diet and fitness. While these channels can educate about bodily functions, it's crucial not to blindly accept information rather actively try to understand the information. Consider the source's intentions-such as fitness influencers promoting supplements or profit-driven food companies. Scrutinize health information carefully, using these channels as guides to explore both sides of an issue and uncover the truth for yourself.
Why should anyone care about your health more than yourself?
You lost that weight because you were at a caloric deficit not because of the peanuts
@@WildPrimal23and carnivores do the same. Calorie deficit.
His point was “peanut butter is totally fine To my body. If you have a peanut butter allergy it will Kill you. Bodies are different. Act accordingly.”
But one thing is common, the ideal diet does not consist of eating processed foods and high in refined sugar items. The ideal diet always narrow down to eating whole foods. That much is certain.
Paul explaining the negative side effects of coffee while Dave slowly sips on his coffee 🤣🤣🤣
everything have side effects if you look at it that way nothing is 100% the best ever
That’s because Paul thinks what he thinks is healthy is healthy, but what everybody else does is unhealthy. Everybody Hass to find their way to do what works for them. What works for me? Is pure carnivore and coffee. Vegetables don’t work for me. Legumes don’t work for me sweeteners don’t work for me. People don’t know what doesn’t work for them because they won’t quit everything and start from scratch and just do carnivore. No one’s really allergic to meat. Nobody really has issues with it. It’s other things. I found out. Spices and pepper melted. Fat vegetables were inflaming me as well as certain sweeteners. I have healed so much just by eating meat and eggs. I’ve lost three sizes in at 65. I feel amazing. Better than I did at 59.
@Cyndi Manka Cyndi sounds like you are addicted to Caffeine to me. My life got so much better when I quit any form of caffeine.
LOL
Lol , bullet proof 🤣
78 year old Ray Peat follower here. Thank you for your words. You sound so sincere and dedicated. Thank you
Ah, I'm sad Ray is gone, but he really did share so much wisdom. Nice to see someone mention him here. ❤
Paul, you've become such a good listener. Xxx
I believe bone broth is the closest we can come to a meat based coffee.
@Z Man what?
A homemade naturally gelatinous bone broth is the key to bulletproof bone health
Asalamwalaikum warahmatulahi wabarakatu my brother
Bone broth he'll no you people are mad.
I brew my coffee with 1/2 water, 1/2 bone broth
I’d love to get on board with you both to spread all of this information to the general public! I had a lifetime of health issues since 7th grade that finally got better after a month of ‘animal based’ …more people need to know about this information! I have a bachelor’s of science in Public Health and health promotion and a minor in nutrition. I live in Houston, Texas and it’s hard finding a job where the superiors believe in this information. I am a living testimonial that all of this works!!
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This is anecdotal evidence. I've been sick since I was a baby. Both of my parents ate an abundance of animal products, so it was what I grew up with. I hunted my own things, ate organs, bone marrow and I honestly got worse. To the point I was unable to move my limbs. I changed and now I got rid of supposed chronic illnesses. Does this mean whatever I do is the one true way that will save everyone and get rid of every disease known to man? No.
We are all creatures of habit and even if it is detrimental to our health. I have family living in Houston and Chick Fe Le is there food of choice and they have health issues. I keep my opinions to myself and accepting there food choices. I have to accept the world I live in and then there is vaccinations. We are in the great poison and a war on meat.
@@Reeeeves Except for one thing buddy. YOUR LYING. And the answer yes amd if you actually tried it ONCE in your life ("correctly" not the internet version of "keto" or "carnivore") you would see the difference. Your ancestors who didn't have the correct genetics for things like fasting, eating red meats, etc. they died off, so every human today has these genes, which is just one example of the many scientific reasons we are all biologically wired to thrive on a specific diet. How specific will vary but based upon how good the individual actually want to feel. It's hard to see the light when your surrounded by darkness
I just recently started this diet and already feel so much benefits. I have one problem tho which someone of you could help me with. The only problem for me on this diet is the digestion. I have very watery diarrhea and stomach (predominantly intestine) pain. Good to mention that I'm transitioning from very very bad diet.. Will it go away if i stick to it? I really don't want to throw towel in, cause I experience so many benefits and in my eyes it's the best diet for humans. Other than that I experience very very mild allergic reaction to fruit (i usually eat it with honey) in form of very very mild itching in mouth. Do someone here have some advice?
Good discussion. I was a kickboxer/soccer player for years and ran into trouble in my mid thirties. Got a hair mineral test and showed I was burning minerals really fast, which is tied to the psychi/addictive patterns. I only lift heavy once a week now, walk and do light things over the rest and everything in my life is improving.
What did you do to help your problem? I have to eat an abundance of carbs everyday to stave away muscle pains and cramps
I’m in the same position. Low magnesium and iodine. Used up all my trace minerals like chromium, boron, vanadium, etc. I’m trying to take it easy and replace lost minerals. But my body just keeps throwing them out. Idk what to do
which brand mineral supplement do you recommend?
I enjoyed this so much I watched it twice !!! Light hearted conversation was welcomed !
Brilliant interview, Paul. This was my favorite one yet. It was nice getting to know your past a little bit more too. Take care. God bless.
I love peanut butter (high oleic) and never had any issues eating it, but I gave it up a few months ago. I wasn't so bothered about the phytic acid because I never ate it with anything where I wanted to get nutrition, but I decided it was time to get away from the oxalates and lectins. I particularly enjoyed peanut butter with dark chocolate, but I gave up the chocolate as well.
Edit: Just read someone's comment about aflatoxins and mycotoxins. Yep, that was the other reason I stopped eating peanuts. Actually, most nuts, but I still occasionally eat macadamias.
Finally someone who knows good peanut butter (high oleic). Peanut growers and processors use rigorous government enforced production, storage, and inspection standards to ensure that aflatoxin risk is minimized in peanut based products. Eliminating aflatoxin on the farm and during crop storage is the key to preventing contamination. Aflatoxin is a naturally occurring substance and can never be reduced to “zero.” Human health is protected by meeting low internationally set safety thresholds so that a person’s chances of exposure to aflatoxin are minimized.
Rigorous cleaning, shelling, sorting and blanching (removal of peanut skins) are key steps in identifying and eliminating damaged peanuts which may have developed aflatoxin from getting into the food supply. Aflatoxin does not form in peanut butter once it is packed in containers, so if the production process is safe then the final product will be too when it reaches the consumer. Any contaminated products that fail food safety standards are removed from sale.
@@AstonAcademia Thanks for sharing the peanut industry's official explanation.
what you just sat there and ate peanut butter and chocolate? what is wrong with you people are you 10 years old or something
@@burritodog3634 No, I didn't just sit there and eat peanut butter and chocolate. I did eat it regularly. Unsweetened 92% chocolate and unsweetened organic peanut butter. Many reckon that would be full of minerals and nutrients. Certainly wasn't like a confectionery, sweet or the sort of thing a 10 year old would eat. I doubt many 10 year olds would even touch 92% chocolate.
My portion size was 1/5th of a bar of 92% chocolate, which was 25g of 90% or 20g of 92%. Not whole bars of chocolate! Peanut butter was typically around 50g. Not exactly huge portions.
@@trail.blazercan I only use organic peanut butter with only salt for my cheat day on carnivore?
I appreciate the positive / respectful dialog & constructive approach. I’ve learned a lot from both of them. I am a little suspicious of Dave. He was the guy that said erythritol was a good sweetener for bullet proof coffee. (I don’t drink coffee at all anymore and my life has improved dramatically)
He also doesn’t really look all that healthy.
I’m going to buy his book and study it just so I can hear what he is saying about exercise. I reserve the right to be wrong and I’ll afford that to
Dave as well but I am suspect of achieving meaningful physical / mental health with such limited exercise.
FYI - we are all addicts. Addicted to something - some just have consequences!
None the less - these guys are pioneers so I thank them both for putting it out there and admire the fact that they ripped the fabric of sky open and both made a ton of money doing it!
Dave, the King of Hacks, Asprey spends all the free time he saves from not doing cardio by thinking of ways to sell shit to people. tell them what they want to hear, Dave. 5 minutes of exercise is better than 1 hour. yayyyy! glad you can afford to buy his book to find out more. 2 scientific studies back it up!
Work Smarter, not Harder -- the Mantra of a New Millennium! it's how the Egyptians built the Great Pyramid -- only 5 minutes per day!
He looks like absolute dogshit and people are lined up to follow his advice like lemmings. Look at all the comments here bragging about disordered eating that Dave has got them on. “Thanks Dave, I only eat meat and now I look as good as you!” They’re rehashing the Atkins playbook and it is SO transparent.
I am so glad that I found you from watching the minimalist podcast..both of you have helped me to where you wouldn't even know who I am, compared to who I was. I cant thank you enough.
Oh my, you guys!!! Thank you sooo much! I am a 72 year old former ultra runner!! I’m not even 1/2 way through this video and you both have spoken to my running addiction! Thank you for slapping me I back to reality! Thank you!!
like you didn't know? You needed them to tell you?
The cardio thing bugs me too. I'm sitting in an office eight hours a day. If i was on my feet all day, then i probably wouldn't feel the need to hit the bike or the gym every day.
So get a standing desk that transforms, enabling sitting or standing
Good to see Dave recognize the sunlight and carb connection. Paul seems think everyone on earth needs to eat tropical fruit all year round...eat local and seasonal is the real way to eat.
The True Ancestral Way.
@@SaundersstrongYou're living the true ancestral way on your phone.
@@Reeeeves this is such a naive, tired stretch of a sad argument.... since when can one not do Some things more ancestral and Some things more modern.... living ancestral can mean few, some, most or all of the things one does. Quit being so narrowminded.
@@aparksmusic Then you're picking and choosing? "The True Ancestral Way" implies a lot. Isn't it narrow minded to discredit the advancements we have made now? Varieties of fresh produce are available to all and it's not a bad thing. Since then, life expectancy has more than doubled. To me, it's just silly to limit oneself. If you want to eat like primal ancestors, then animal products shouldn't be a big part of your diet. Pretty much excluding dairy from our diets. Meat and eggs were only pretty much to fill that gap when the colder days hit when food was less plentiful. Don't toss around primal if you don't know what you're talking about.
@@Reeeeves wtf are you ranting about lol. My point was that there are ancestral ways that are beneficial to us still as humans and obviously technological and medical advancements etc that benefit us as well and that being absolute on either side is naive. You implied that because one uses their phone, they live in other ancestral ways or that any of those ways were the sole if even the main reason life expectancy was shorter back then... you think diet and not things like disease and just barbaric human behavior being a normality, or wildlife in general, werent all reasons, too?
I stand by my original point that you are narrow minded.
Two intelligent guys. Love this conversation.
Speaking of financial food insecurity: I watched a documentary once where 3 white guys tried to live on a buck a day in a third world country. They ate only the vegetables that their land produced. After two days of being hungry all the time and terrible sleep, they discovered that the locals who couldn't afford meat just bought lard. Life improved from that moment. Where I live (also a third world country) real butter is crazy expensive, so I make my own tallow and lard.
These videos are great. When I was doing "dirty keto", I would eat unsweetened peanut butter straight from the jar with a spoon. I would even drink the peanut oil inside the jar. I feel much better on a meat-based diet.
Paul, Would love to hear an interview with you and Dr. Lustig. Especially you and him discussing Honey and whole fruit consumption. Just hope that he is a good mood!🙂
This discussion made me smile a lot. Thank you, Paul and Dave😄
I like that dave lightened paul up here… sounds like he wants to hangout w you paul and not be so technical and tense
Two legends having a fun conversation! Loved this one, super interesting and enjoyed. Thanks of your work Paul and dave.
I loved when Dave made fun of his honey 🍯.
@@BestLifeMDdrink your stupid orange juice 🙄😂
Is Dave a vegan? He looks ill
I love that he asked about the micro nutrients of honey vs sucrose, wish Paul responded to that as well
Honey comes directly from nature, unprocessed by humans. That's enough. But also has antimicrobial properties, and other benefits.
It really depends if it's crunchy 100% organic peanuts or 90% smooth peanut butter with vegetable oil, emulsifiers, thickeners etc etc.!
...nope
Peanut butter was one of the last things to go. I'm running out of things to no longer call food.
Drinking coffee and gorilla glue #4 is all I have left. From my cold dead hands.
But I feel fantastic and no longer have a food addiction. Feeling this great at 56 is a small price to pay for eating the tastiest steaks of my life. It never gets old.
Lol classic strain
Going to be hard to give up peanut butter as I have a stash for emergencies. But I’ll give almond butter a try. Great information.
Yep coffee and herb are my last two vices. Not really willing to give them up especially since they are basically my preworkout.
This is best podcast you’ve had in like a year. This is such a great transparent conversation
At my age, coffee is the only thing worth getting up for.😆
Hahaha. Your good self is worth getting up for too 👌😊
Agreed ...its part of me , leave my coffee alone and stay away from my Adam's all natural peanut butter it's all I got left as a treat.
Because nobody showed you how you can grow herbs and make amazing great herb teas ….. that increase your health. Coffee is acidic. Cancer likes an acid environment. Sometimes your body needs a break
Same for me but it's also green tea
Love that y’all can have meaningful debates about the research you’ve done and what it means.
Such a GREAT listen! Wow… you guys are amazing to listen to and so much information. Love this!
Great conversation! Dave's research, writings and products were initially responsible for me delving into animal based eating after being a vegan for many years. Thank you.
Are you alarmed that he looks like absolute shit and has a long history of selling snake oil? And you ‘based your eating’ on him? Come on.
me too, i have so much more energy and intelligence
This was so fun to watch. What a great combo you two are. Would love to see more of these. Lot's of laughs, so much education and very respectful towards each other's opinions.
As usual with these legendary podcasts guests I walk away with MORE QUESTIONS than answers 😂😂😂
Really interesting discussion, thanks so much. Paul, I would love you to explore the impact of fructose and NAFLD further - a discussion with Robert Lustig would be fantastic if you can get him to come on.
NAFLD is a choline deficiency. Choline transports fat from the liver. But because everyone wants to blame fructose they ignore the importance of choline.
@mcephas6982 do modern fruits have significantly more fructose than their original state?
Ocd sufferer here and ADHD. Had a bunch of peanut , was in brain hijack hell for two days. Peanuts are super high in omega 6 and super low in omega 3 and highhhh in free glutamate which is just HELL for mental disorders , esp anxiety disorders and adhd
Wow thanks for sharing that. Had no idea it was so high in free glutamate.
Buy high oleic peanuts and peanut butter. Better than olive oil as less omega 6.
In order to make peanuts healthiest for food: sprout and ferment,… and possibly/probably cook.
How do you eat exactly? I have ADHD and OCD as well.
@@zacw812 keto for my blood type. Find out your blood type and if you are a secretor or non secretor and learn the food chart . Make it keto or carnivore accordingly.🙏🌟
2 non dogmatic nutritional geniuses collaborating over what they believe to be the optimum human diet in front of our eyes for free. What a time to be alive. Great content and as always Paul, thank you for caring enough to keep digging and spreading the information!
Paul is non-dogmatic? Just ask him about his non-scientific belief that fructose is good for you and organ meats are necessary for health..without any actual proof either is true...
As for Dave.. the man is a charlatan who makes obscene amounts of money off his so called superior coffee and mct oil. He’s a businessman not a nutrition expert..
Removing gluten from my diet 15 years ago (in my early 50s) cured my migraines that I had suffered from since childhood. Surprisingly, caffeine and aspirin only made them much worse (acetaminophen was the only that that worked prior to gluten-free) and removing any of the other supposed food connections worked did not work. Gluten was the key and no doctor ever recommended removing it. I only chanced upon an Italian study linking gluten to migraines - thank god.
Dave trolling Paul and Paul rolling with it was refreshing
I can eat fruit it doesn’t bother me and then my issues but I choose not to because I don’t need the carbohydrates. I’ve lost three sizes in one year of getting plants out of my life. My arthritis is better. My asthma is better my lower G.I. issues for over 20 years and diagnosed is 100% better. One time I tried to eat fresh vegetables and my hip hurts so bad I could not walk literally could not walk. I don’t do that anymore. People need to find out what the inflammation is coming from.
stop lying your just trying to hop on the newest diet trends, embarrasing
48:56 You can compare yourself to a mouse 🐀
We are all different in some ways, so of us like beans ,meats ,eggs, cheese, yogurt, fruit and vegetables, others like beer ,wine and whiskey/liquor 🥃.
But we all need vitamins and from our diet.
We ain't mice.rat 🐁🐀🐀🐁
That was fun Paul and Dave. Lots of notes. Stay strong. Smarter Not Harder!
Great interview, thank you Paul and Dave.
Thank you for this great interview, I enjoyed every minute!
I just realized something in the Bible that is relevant to the fruit and vegetables discussion. From the beginning in the garden of Eden, God gave humans fruit to eat and He gave animals vegetables to eat.
Genesis 1:29 ESV - And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.
Genesis 1:30 ESV - And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so.
You are exactly right. I referenced that at the beginning of this post.
Wow! I never noticed this distinction before!!
This Scripture is referring to before the fall of man, who was to have dominion. There was no death of creations that had spirit in them (animals/man/etc). Once the fall happened, which was not eve eating a piece of fruit btw, the earth was cursed and death set in. Now animals could and would kill for food as well as man. After the fall, man was given laws about what to eat and not eat. Then Christ came, died for sinners, fulfilled His own Law, and Grace set in!! It will one day soon be restored to how it once was. No more death and killing. GOD BLESS.
Trouble is everything changed after the fall & even more so after the flood. Now we need more meat. Gen 2:17 from the time of the fall, “thou shalt surely die”.
@@cornflowertoile3026 Yes, agreed. The Bible also says this.
Romans 14:2 ESV - One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.
I could never get sick of peanut butter. It's amazing. I do have a hard time with ground beef at almost every meal
Same! Peanut butter isn't a problem for me, but too much meat is. I do well with turkey and fish though.
Try FORCE OF NATURE Bison Ground Beef. This may change your mind on GB.
@@icantdance5712 I've had great bison, still can't thrive on meat every day, personally.
@@icantdance5712 I love bison. Never tried that brand though
I imagine it would be hard to know if they added soy or cereal into your ground beef. Also you need animal fat to release the bile necessary to digest the beef properly.
Dr. saladinos facial expressions when the conversation went to coffee. Omg HILARIOUS.
He was in a tremendous amount of physical pain 😂
Hi Dave, I completely agree!!! Best regards and see you soon. Guy Tenenbaum
So funny how you mentioned Boulder Co. I grew up in the mountains just west of Boulder. I’m 54 now and trying to learn the proper way to eat not the grains And vegan craze I grew up with. I love beef!!!!
Great chat . But re peanut butter :
The amount of aflatoxins in peanut butter is strictly regulated in many countries to ensure consumer safety. In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has set a maximum allowable level of aflatoxins in peanut butter at 20 parts per billion (ppb). This limit is set to minimize risk while considering what is achievable given the best agricultural and manufacturing practices.
Most commercially available peanut butter products contain aflatoxin levels that are much lower than this limit, thanks to advanced agricultural practices, careful selection of peanuts, and rigorous testing procedures. Manufacturers often test for aflatoxins both in the raw peanuts and in the final product to ensure safety.
Despite the natural occurrence of aflatoxins in peanuts, modern processing techniques significantly reduce their presence in peanut butter, keeping it well within safe consumption limits set by regulatory agencies.
Haha - fun discussion! Paul I totally remember the Boulder of the late 90s and the scene with vegans/vegetarians and wheatgrass and the endless running/cycling - I was there too! All the wrong things for the right reasons! 🤣🤣🤣
1:04:01 A lot of people that work at fast food restaurants don’t really understand how the food is farmed or put together. They’re not in the marketing department. I wish Chipotle did not use rice bran oil on, most of the menu. That’s great that they’re an investor in Zero Acre Farms but that kind of seems more like for financial business purposes. The meat is not advertised on the website as pasture raised or grass fed. The produce is not advertised as organic. It is advertised that they’re an investor in Zero Acre farms on the website. Farm Burgers cook their grass fed, grass finished burgers with tallow.
So much love for what you guys are doing
Selling snake oil? Yikes
Great convo. A missing piece of this puzzle is that a major crux of the nutrient dense regenerative farming movement is that most agronomic practices impede photosynthesis - and the levels of reducing monosaccharides (glucose/fructose) to disaccharides sucrose is completely different in a truly healthy plant versus a plant with hidden hunger. Leaf brix is an indirect measurement of plant health/nutrient density because it is a direct measurement of sucrose levels. Furthermore, high brix plants with streamlined sugar synthesis then synthesize proteins, lipids and secondary metabolites more efficiently as well - and very crucial to this conversation is that the secondary metabolite profile is totally different in a truly healthy plant. Would be very curious to see research into whether high brix plants with optimal secondary metabolite production and thus specific phytoalexin profiles have the same in vitro levels of antinutrients / in vivo effect of anti-nutrition.
Still eating peanut butter. And 10 years from now we will find out how great it really is
damn son hilarious!
hahaha....I am loving this interview with Dave! Thanks Paul
I’ve been waiting and looking for a conversation like this!!❤
This was a fun conversation to watch. Good info.
Paul Saladino is 45 years old, Dave Asprey is 49, David Goggins is 48. These three people are wildly different in how they live their lives. I'd put Paul at the top of who is living the healthiest lifestyle and also looks the healthiest. Goggins looks healthy, but has some serious orthopedic issues.
I sense that Goggins somewhat in a pathologically obsessive way of being as opposed to in a healthy balance
This was so fun watching you two playfully debate coffee👏👏👏
I love organic peanut butter with no sugar, organic oats and alot of cinnamon
It's the finest peasant food money can buy!
Try to get peanut butter made from dry roasted Valencia peanuts.
Valencia peanuts are grown ABOVE GROUND in bushes in arid regions of Arizona, New Mexico and west Texas. Thus they don’t have the mold / aflatoxin problem that other peanuts have. Also, find a brand that dry roasts the Valencia nuts. The high heat destroys up to 80% of the lectins.
When I was on keto, I thought nuts were healthy and I would eat them all the time. Thankfully, I saw the light and don’t do that anymore. I got my husband off of peanuts. He bought a 25 pound bag and would sit there night after night and eat them. He gained so much weight.
It's almost like eating anything in excess is bad? Shucks. Who would've thunk it. Hu-hyuck
I still do clean-keto and have almond butter in the morning. It really keeps me satiated. I don't want to give it up.
Peanuts are legumes, not nuts.
@@madeleinegrayson8372 Finally, someone said it.
@@thomaskeets3194 no need to give it up.
You know you're on the right track when Big Food is censoring your Instagram posts.
Anything that is censored is factual?
That is an absolutely moronic way of operating. Grow up.
Learned so much, guys! Thank you both.
I love Dave’s joke about James. My girlfriend used to do this with me. She hated those glass blown like Russian type Christmas ornaments. Like I mean hated. And so what did I get her for Christmas? A whole set of Rudolph glass blown ornaments. She laughed and loved it. Glad you guys have a good sense of humor my girlfriend, and I would go back-and-forth doing stuff like that. My family never understood it. They would say like, but she hates those. I know I would say, that’s why I bought them, and they just scratch their head.
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That was an awesome talk. Thx guys!
I was literally just having this conversation over this past weekend with two friends who refused to believe me when I told them about how unhealthy peanut butter is
In order to make peanuts healthiest for food: sprout and ferment,… and possibly/probably cook.
@Bon Summers My college roommate was a toxicologist he did his thesis on peanut butter and all peanut butter has aflatoxins and Mycotoxins in them.
Fungal metabolites that you can't cook out and cause cancer yum
I eat peanut butter all the time and it’s delicious and I feel fine. Being afraid of “toxins” seems like a creepy cult of food consumerism.
@@KeyofDavid5778Aren't they literally in everything? This is the equivalent to saying people have died from water poisoning, let's not drink water.
That's why there is quality control. Because, according to some papers, mycotoxins (like aflatoxins) most often contaminate products of animal origin. Look at that. Can't cook it out either. Guess you meat eaters are screwed.
Not everyone has a problem with it.
Favorite podcast of the year. Thank you.
I don’t have any digestive or ill effects from eating peanut butter. I eat peanut butter without any added oils, sugar, or salt. I’m a lucky guy I guess.
Same. I notice quickly when something isn't right for my body. Been enjoying peanut butter all my life.
@@madeleinegrayson8372 same
Same here. Seems to agree with me
Stop eating it for a while and see how you feel. The main symptom I get from things like peanut butter is severe anxiety. Also depression lol.
@@bannanaization they'd notice if they had anxiety or depression, lol. Some of us just do well with legumes.
I get Paul’s take on coffee but I see it this way- yes, you will not absorb as many minerals if drink a coffee with your breakfast. But if all you’re having is coffee, then there’s no minerals for the phytic acid to steal.
And Paul, you might not like caffeine, but it’s a phenomenal drug with real benefits if used intelligently. Simply put, it makes life better. Studies show that it is not only the nutritional quality of your food, but how YOU FEEL about the food that makes a tremendous difference on how it actually effects your body and mind.
Us coffee drinkers absolutely love and enjoy a cup. It’s not a toxic and harmful drug that’s gonna hurt us. Therefore the benefits far outweigh the downsides. One or two cups of coffee will likely not have any measurable effect on mineral status so long as you are eating a well balanced diet of mineral rich foods and maybe popping a bit of extra zinc and magnesium if coffee really makes you pee a lot.
I love how all the advertisements for Dave's podcasts are pictures of him almost 10 years ago
Umm... why not just show a pic of him today?
Oh that's right, maybe because he looks like a 60 year old man?
And he's "biohacking his health" - so we should definitely take his advice!!!
I do LOVE my coffee...Im not addicted though, I can leave it and feel fine...I just love it. I do choose clean versions.
I like Dave for supporting coffee
He should support my adderall and nicotine use next.
i can't believe he promotes coffee... oh, wait, he sells Bulletproof Coffee & Danger Coffee. never mind.
Hey Paul, great discussion. Just noticed a slip-up that is not at all important to the content, but thought I’d let you know:
You said you were glad your peroneal artery still worked after overtraining on the bike for years. And mentioned how that artery is important for men. I was confused.
Took me a minute to realize you were talking about the pudendal artery, not the peroneal (which is in the calf)
I'm a 4 year carnivore. However, white bread, bananas, butter, jelly, peanut butter, pure ecstacy...
You feel that way because your ‘carnivore’ lifestyle is disordered eating. The rest of us don’t have an orgasmic reaction to PB&J. This is an alarming statement and you give it like it’s an endorsement.
No more condoms for me!!
Fyi- I was eating at least 3 cups of raw almonds, and sometimes walnuts, per week, for about a year. Suddenly I noticed when I'd have the urge to urinate it was sudden and so urgent I could barely make it to the bathroom, whereas before I could hold it for several hours, if needed. I went to Gyno and had an ultrasound, which was clean and was told "that sometimes happens during/after menopause." 🙄 I KNEW it was something else because it was sudden. It dawned on me it was the massive amount of almonds/nuts.. not even knowing yet of oxalates. I stopped eating nuts. It's been TWO weeks, and the emergency urination sensation is just about Gone!
I looked it up today, rhe relation between oxalate toxin and urination, and what do you know... it can cause irritation of bladder and every symptom I had!
Coffee is low in oxalates. The types of fruits and the honey that Paul advocates are relatively low in oxalates. That's a good point of agreement. To me, they both look healthy; they just have different genetics (and Paul lives in a sunny seaside environment).
Dave looks thin and weak here. He's 49 and looks 65, he has aged so much in 2 years I literally wonder whether he's sick.
The running argument is interesting. I agree that training for things like ultras and marathons is probably not healthy overall but I don’t understand how being extremely fit can be a bad thing.
I am a 36 year old runner and I run for the love of trying to improve and set new personal records. Of course this is an addiction like a lot of things in life but it brings people so much joy and fulfillment.
There isn’t a world where you can compare doing 15 mins of cardio per day versus being able to run a major marathon in under 3 hours after doing lots of hard training.
I'm watching this while drinking Coffee, and Peanut Butter.
Is that bad? ☕ 🥜
Nope. Enjoy!
Organic cold-pressed pumpkin seed oil? Any advice on whether or not it's bad for you or not?
What I’ve noticed is that a lot of “specialist” have a bias on what is healthy or good for you based on how it affects their own body..I don’t have any food allergies..the only thing my body doesn’t like is cow milk because of lactose..other than that I can eat anything in moderation..even sugar..I don’t add white table sugar anymore as a sweetener to anything but my baked goods when I make desert because I would much rather consume those sugar grams in a desert once in a while. My gut is healthy because I consume everything and I don’t have any mental blocks on any food being bad for me..I suffered with acne til 35 because of cow milk..your skin will tell you if your gut is healthy..as above so below…I’ve heard so many vegans that end up so unhealthy because of mental blocks and an unhealthy relationship with food..toxic plastic or pesticide sugar laced foods..a lack of biodiversity in the gut ..and all of the veggies that tear up their guts ..your body acts just like a bank account..not everyone can afford to drive a Bentley..stay in your own body bracket..but lifestyle/diet is not a one size fits all. All food is energy..it is all good for someone..find what works for you..and running is designed for survival..stressful environments..fight or flight..not a way to stay fit..so many runners ..running for so called health Ive net are not that healthy either.
peanut butter is rich in nutrients and a decent protein source. It's also loaded with fiber, vitamins, and minerals, although this doesn't seem as significant when you consider the high calorie load. It is perfectly fine to incorporate moderate amounts of peanut butter into a healthful diet. These characters appear to be crypto-paleo faddists....
Great conversations, thanks for the content once again.
nice ive been waiting for you to do another podcast with dave. you are my two favorite health nerds. i pretty much eat animal based but with bulletproof coffee lol. always wanted to hear paul dig into dave with some harder technical questions like you did a bit here. you should do another podcast with him, get him to bring some studies so you can duke it out.
Dave cant go too technical…. He has other people feed him studies and just says hey look black seed cumin oil works in rhinos
@@carniv5812 yeah what about black seed oil, Nigella sativa? I have an unopened small bottle on my counter I’m eyeing suspiciously. Supposedly it’s anti-inflam and immune-boosting. However, traditionally, it has been taken by people where it grows natively, India, as a seed or 2 chewed daily. So … the traditional way makes more sense to me now.
Totally agree. Paul was too kind not to dig deeper into Dave’s theories about the liver and how it works.
Listen up everyone, these two guys ROCK💥💥💥💥
I was just thinking about this but just peanuts in general.
The dynamic duo
Peanut butter in general makes my stomach hurt BUT I will use organic peanut butter powder in baking recipes on Keto. Just a tbsp here and there. I don't see or have an issue with that. And sometimes, that taste is just about the yum factor.
Last year i heard so much good things about kale, so i added some frosen sliced kale into my smoothies, first few days no problem but on third day, few hours after i got stomach pains, bloated and fever.. I got so sick, I was in bed for 8 days, twice as bad as any flu i ever had in my life..
Imagine a plant incapacitating you.
Lol, if that even happened, that sounds like food poisoning. Keep some food grade bentonite clay on hand.
@@madeleinegrayson8372 maybe the frosen kale had earth in it? 🤔 But could have been food poisoning yes but I never puked just had crazy fever 8 days straight
@@orion9k food poisoning doesn't always result in vomiting. And no food allergy results in 8 days of fever. Any doc will tell you that.
Yeah I think most of us that have been around a while have dabbled in kale and oats….unfortunately for me I’ve been doing carnivore and reintroduced peanut butter as a food coma device at night. I just can’t have nice things it seems lol
sorry ..dave looks older than his 50 years.. he should do a little more fruit i think..
It gets worse. He's only 49.
@@vince1229 lol
Agreed. I don’t trust Dave.
I honestly thought he was in his 60's 😬😬😬
He hasn’t always lived such a healthy life. This has taken somewhat of a toll. Don’t be so judgmental 😊
enjoyed the discussion. thanks guys.
Hello, Doctor.
I’m grateful for the content.
Can you give me a light? How to adapt the animal based diet for who haves Gilbert’s Syndrome?
Bcause de advices of doctors here is reduce de meat income, but I don’t think that it benefits anything. What do you think about it?
Adress liver toxicity look into quick silver sci liver sauce and detox protocols
Valencia variety peanuts are grown in drier climates in New Mexico and Texas, so they are far less prone to the mold that produces aflatoxin which requires a more humid environment that other peanut varieties are grown in. When raw, the peanut's delicate polyunsaturated fats are not yet oxidized/rancid, and when sprouted reduce the phytic acid. If one is going to consume peanut butter, best bet is raw, freshly-ground, organic, sprouted, valencia peanuts with a bit of raw organic unfiltered honey.
My mom is diabetic and she eats a lot of fruit. Fructose is poisonous if you eat it every day.
Well, you're not supposed to be eating large amounts of fruit everyday if you are diabetic. You do keto to reverse diabetes (preferably of the meat-based variety, no soy, no seed oils, no vegetables, no grains, no legumes, no nuts) and then you include fruit when you have a healthy A1C.
ntrelis, isolated crystalline fructose is bad for you. The fructose in whole fruit is not.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 People started becoming obese when nigh fructose corn syrup was put in food in the 70's. It's nearly in everything now
Great podcast guys, thank you
Great fucking interview!! Will not agree with everything, but it was good see respectful and scientific backed info. Most was agreed anyway except for the coffee, and fructose.
I still believe having a higher A1C on Carnivore isn’t necessarily a bad thing if the reticulocytes are high which shows longer living RBCS, which could cause a higher A1C
You should do an interview with Dr. Richard Johnson of the University of Denver regarding his research dealing with fructose metabolism in the liver and how it triggers obesity, uric acid, and fatty liver disease.
Conflict of interest.
Paul is biased on organ meat (Heart & Soil) business.
Dave is biased on coffee ( has his own coffee beans company)
So true. Part of why I loved Ray Peat. Made very little and sold nothing, lol. Not even a book.
This is partially true, but the amount of nutrients in grass-fed cow organ meats is undeniable.
Keep up the good work, Paul!
Currently in process of helping my parents and brother make the long term switch to animal base.
While it’s SO dumb that IG sensors your content - I know for a fact that those of us whose health is dramatically transforming can’t keep silent about it!
Word of mouth multiplication is happening 🔥
I think a big difference between these two is paul is all about FOOD, and dave looks at food as something he has to eat to survive and that supplements and these crazy body scans are more important than say “the tiny nutrients jn honey cmon paul”. Whats missing here is we are not all rich and can barely afford things as is… so yes those tiny nutrients in honey so serve a purpose for us. We cant afford millions of supplements like he can
So well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 And as Paul says “I’d rather get any nutrition from real food”
I stopped watching Dave cause he endlessly suggests using super expensive devices and supplements
Sorry I don’t have a hyperbaric chamber or an Ora ring
What’s missing is that Dave Asprey is not an inspirational figure for health and fitness. He is a con artist.
@@anybodyoutthere3208he’s trying to sell you something. Paul isn’t.
You guys should check out Brian Johnson just for curiosity’s sake. An obsessive biohacker dude who’s taken it to the next level….I’d actually be curious to see how he’d go in a meat based diet rather than the gruel and high fibre mix he lives on
"Some people really can have coffee right before bed"
Yes, and in Mexico we call them Brazilians ;-) I have never met anyone love coffee more than the folks in Brazil. It is both endearing and crazy at the same time.