Take a sip whenever he says “this deck” Jokes aside, this is great! Glad that this video has some good advice for new players as both an introduction to deck building and a guideline for budgeting. To be honest, we’ve needed something like this for a long time (besides squeezy’s video, which was out of date for years) I’d also like to put my two cents in on 4:10 and say that picking Smash > Impfinity is *way* better than picking Boogaloo > Rustbolt. While Smash is practically the worst hero in the game by meta standards, Impfinity is conversely one of the best heroes. On top of being a lot more effective at budgeting than either Boogaloo or Rustbolt, I think waiting through another 15 or so games to build a proper deck with Impfinity is 100% worth it. That might just be my opinion, however Again, this is a great video. I’m glad that the community managed to come together and make a newer, better researched and tested guide for beginners
Yeah it's definitely arguable that impfinity is a better pick, I touched on that during the deck showcase portion when I discussed how impfinity has a really good upgrade path. Overall Boogaloo burn is still better than agraves But yeah valid point
Corrections: - Trybel should be credited for making the ~6k and ~14k Impfinity decks - I should have included a little more on how to make your own deck. Here's an excerpt from something that Trybel wrote. "Random 1xs are generally not a good inclusion. You will not consistently draw it and it won't be consistently helpful. However, if a card is good any time you draw it, such as Split Pea or Haunted Pumpking in Tempo or Aggro decks, then go ahead. This statement mainly applies to people with limited resources. Don't add random cards because of a trait or tribe. Don't believe me? Try an all-Bullseye or an all-Frenzy deck. It will not go well. If you ever have the need to add random big finishers to a deck that isn't specifically Control, then you should consider making the core part of your deck better by not using those finishers and using those slots for cards that improve your gameplan. Take into account the worst case scenario when drawing cards and how often that scenario might happen. For example, 4x Red Stinger is a no-go, since drawing multiple will most likely result in a bricked hand. Cards that require you to build your deck around it, such as Trickster or Pineclone, should be run in 4 copies, as they should be drawn as consistently as possible. - 5:13 the deck shown in the background doesn't actually have any card draw, but the cheaper version of it (8:37) does. - 5:52 there's meant to be a background there... - 2:00 Midrange doesn't refer to the speed of the deck, but rather the term used for decks that have a highly adaptable gameplan. They pack enough value to win into aggro but play fast enough (most of the time) to win into control. While the average turn they win might be accurate to the video, that's not the point of labeling them midrange. - 6:41 This deck now uses 3 sugary treats and 2 flamencos. Very minor change. - 4:13 This is no longer the case. Spudow into Chompzilla is definitely better. - 8:36 After more testing, we have concluded that Rose's 8000 spark deck is more powerful than Immorticia's 9900 spark deck.
wicked good video! I'm somewhat new to PvZH but has spent a decent bit playing another CCG (undercards) so I understand a bunch of key concepts. I've just hit ultimate league with a semi-budget heal mid WK today, and I though I'm by no means bad at piloting, I've never made my own deck before. this video will probably change it, though.
Cards that were nerfed in the most recent set of balance changes have always given a full refund on sparks, the last balance change was like 4 years ago though so now it just looks like random cards giving more lol
Blob Combo was initially created to tech against budget midrose in a budget tournament, but later evolved to be more suited for ladder. Toss is the maxed version, but we never had that in mind when making it. So... uh... yeah
The similarities between ToSS and blob combo are coincidence, but you certainly can still use blob combo as a stepping stone to ToSS if you really want. ToSS may not be the best that immorticia can do competitively, but it can be a good surprise tool and it's still great for ladder.
Your first pick will always be between Spudow and Solar Flare for plants and between Smash and Boogaloo for zombies. Depending on who you choose, a different third hero will appear. Chompzilla will ONLY appear second if you pick Spudow first, and Impfinity will ONLY appear second if you pick Smash first. If you pick Flare and Boogaloo, you'll get Wall Knight and Rustbolt as options.
A video of budget midrose: ruclips.net/video/qjDE4xOSarU/видео.html Some video links for maxed midrose: ruclips.net/video/JnicJl_FEe4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/h0Ojvt_4h_I/видео.html Hopefully this helps
In your starting hand, try to get a 1 cost card that you can play on turn 1 and either a disco dance floor for turn 2 or two 1 cost cards in a combo on turn 2. Note that you should never play unlife of the party by itself since it's really weak unless you buff it at least once. It's also really strong to buff it with egg since egg counts for 2 minions. After that you basically just want to do damage to your opponent as fast as possible before you run out of steam later on. Another neat combo is putting sugary treat on jester to force the opponent to address it, meaning they take damage either way. Surfer and snorkel are also good targets for sugary. Win the game with a big damage burst from flamenco or surfer or just by wittling down the health of the opponent fast enough.
It's a pretty slow process, but in general you can either rank up fast to get a bunch of gems (in which case you want a powerful budget deck like impfinity pirates or chompzilla tempo) or you can watch ads for gems. There's no magical solution to it, but if you play optimally you'll get about 2000 gems per season.
Okay uh I figured we'd get a few people saying stuff like this, which makes sense, especially considering that some of the most popular pvzh youtubers have said that solar flare and smash have really good decks, but you need to realize that that was back in 2018. Since then, we've tested our decks extensively on ranked mode and against each other. For several months 40 people worked together to discover exactly what decks were best on budget. I highly recommend you join the pvzh official discord or the pvzh budget testing discord so we can show exactly what we mean. aggro solar flare and smash sports were good back in the day, but now they are severely outdated.
@@_cran yeah absolutely solar flare aggro is great, that's why I recommended it in the video. it's just that it's outdated and the other decks featured here are more powerful nowadays. they're all recent inventions that have had many more years to develop so it makes sense that the modern decks are better. solar flare can still definitely hit ultimate, it's just that stuff like immorticia blob and midrose can do it better.
@@aidancode oh that's nice guess I'll have to play the game more but it was kind of a filler game until the new card game came out from ninja kiwi cards Bloon storm it has really interesting mechanics that are different from pvz heroes
I counted. About 13 seconds were spent advertising the server in a video that is 9 minutes 40 seconds long. That equates to roughly 2.2% of the video spent advertising the community. I'm sorry that I didn't accommodate your interest in remaining in the dark about public resources. I'm currently working on another, more in-depth tutorial and will do my best to reduce the mention of helpful resources to less than a percent in order to support people with as low attention spans as you.
@@aidancode I do respect your open mind for amendments It's just that I cringe so hard when I see a Pirate deck without Swash or a Blob deck without teleport(That blob is dead on arrival when you play it dry to a ton of removal cards). Also loose cannon in any deck is always questionable especially when the Meta on the plant side is Heal and Guardian But I do understand that is a video meant for budget players who do not have 4 copies of teleport and teleportation zombie so having a decent budget blob deck is not possible Instead of showing how much sparks it takes to craft the entire deck they should focus on crafting individual high quality cards that can be used in many top tier decks such as: Going Viral Flameface Tricarrotops Bananasaurus rex Gatling Pea Pineclone Black eyed pea Conman Spacetime Area 22 Trickster Teleport Teleportation zombie Clique pea Lima Galacta Quazard Astrocado Aloesaurus Dark Dragon Brainana Haunted Pumpking Con cannon Forget me nuts Those are just a few must crafts Another thing is the pack openings, when you start off you want to open individual packs but once you have a decent enough deck start buying the 1000 gem packs for maximum value. I would suggest starting on premium pack(so that you can get the bread and butter cards as well as the good finishers, getting heroes especially the good ones is another bonus) then you want to start opening some Galactic(Environments plus good super rares) once you have a decent enough collection. You don't really have to open any colossal because you could just craft the good rares. But mostly open the Premium. For the starter hero selection you should choose Wall Knight and Solar flare because they are really high quality heros who are budget friendly with decks such budget heal and aggro solar flare which I think is the best budget deck because you can always keep upgrading it. For the zombie side the Smash and Impfinity should be chosen because they are more budget friendly with decks such as budget sports and budget pirates which are really cheap to make for their effectiveness. + Impfinity is the best Zombie Hero Another thing is that in your comment it says that you shouldn't have random one of's, replacing an uncommon with a legendary, event or super rare will probably make that budget deck better overall no matter how unlikely it is to draw Also other useful nuggets of information Plants in this game are on average more likely to win than zombies, playing as zombies in this game is like playing dead by daylight as when you play against high level plant players they will: Punish and deny your tricks, deny your gravestones, deny your big minions and punish and deny swarm as well. Guardian and Solar is a nightmare to deal with and you will face a never ending gauntlet of Spam Knuckles and Ramp Rose. And playing on the plant side is like a walk in the park as long as your deck is saturated with Legendaries Anyway if you made it this far thanks for reading and I hope this will improve your experience with PvZ Heroes! The best PvZ game and best game on mobile.
@@aaronconvery Swash can be a very highrolly card but it also is a win more card and easily removed or blocked. Win more cards may feel good to play but they are just winmore cards if you already have many pirates hitting face that live then you are probably in a very good position already. Compared to a card like ice pirate which can be very good tempo and does more damage. And also this is budget so we don't have teleports at all, but even with that blob is still very good because of how cheap it is at forcing a response. Blob is also good because of cards like swimmer that can copy it and removing 2 very big threats on turn 6 can be pretty difficult. I do understand your point and we did talk about how narrow some cards are for crafting but really the only narrow cards shown are astro shroom and swimmer. Area is a really damn good card and an auto include into almost beastly deck. Jelly bean is the best card in the smarty class and ketchup is also a pretty good card.
@@aaronconvery Aidan is a rather experienced player who's spent a long time building and testing budget decks. There's also an entire community of players dedicated to figuring out what works best for budget players. The information in this video is a collaboration of many of the best budget players in the game, so you can absolutely trust the information there. Also regarding your comment about swash and blob, swash has almost no usability in budget (at least competitively, maybe it's good in ladder). A 2/2 for 2 isn't very reliable, and in budget you can't run conman or grave robber (unless it's the 15k category) so you don't have enough good 1 drops to buff. In maxed, swash is still bad despite this because the overall power level of the format is too high for a 2 cost 2/2 that will at most buff 2 cards (usually only buffing only 1 or even 0). As for blob, I can agree that teleport makes it much better, but it's still a force to be reckoned with either way. If the opponent doesn't have hard removal, they have to find a way to chump block a massive attacker that drops down as soon as turn 3. Often times blob will become a 7/5 or even stronger, which is devastating in a lower power format like budget. It's also still great on ladder where removal is often too slow and blob can just outpace it, and there are many great options for unblocking in budget. Also, crafting individual cards is great, but it means very little without a full deck to use it in. For example, astro shroom is a great craft, but it only makes sense if you also have all the tools for a good nightcap cyclecap style deck. With some of the other cards you mentioned (like pineclone or haunted pumpking), they require very specific decks to function and may simply be a bad idea to craft if you're not interested in crafting those sorts of decks (and not to mention neither card sees much competitive play anymore). Edit: Forgot to note about pack openings. Premium packs are ok, but not for budget players. The rare and uncommon pools are heavily saturated with bad cards that you shouldn't be running. Even outside of budget, you don't exactly have your "bread and butter" there. In fact, most cards in premium packs are very situational. Your bread and butter cards for budget will come from colossal, and in maxed will come from colossal (for plants) and galactic (for zombies).
the least i'd expect is a pvzh video from a youtuber i actually watch. Good to know that this game isn't completely dead
Take a sip whenever he says “this deck”
Jokes aside, this is great! Glad that this video has some good advice for new players as both an introduction to deck building and a guideline for budgeting. To be honest, we’ve needed something like this for a long time (besides squeezy’s video, which was out of date for years)
I’d also like to put my two cents in on 4:10 and say that picking Smash > Impfinity is *way* better than picking Boogaloo > Rustbolt. While Smash is practically the worst hero in the game by meta standards, Impfinity is conversely one of the best heroes. On top of being a lot more effective at budgeting than either Boogaloo or Rustbolt, I think waiting through another 15 or so games to build a proper deck with Impfinity is 100% worth it. That might just be my opinion, however
Again, this is a great video. I’m glad that the community managed to come together and make a newer, better researched and tested guide for beginners
Yeah it's definitely arguable that impfinity is a better pick, I touched on that during the deck showcase portion when I discussed how impfinity has a really good upgrade path. Overall Boogaloo burn is still better than agraves But yeah valid point
When you can get a maxed deck impfinity is much better than boolgoloo and rusbolt but that is just my opinion
good video! Nice to see a redo of the deckbuilding guide
Corrections:
- Trybel should be credited for making the ~6k and ~14k Impfinity decks
- I should have included a little more on how to make your own deck. Here's an excerpt from something that Trybel wrote. "Random 1xs are generally not a good inclusion. You will not consistently draw it and it won't be consistently helpful. However, if a card is good any time you draw it, such as Split Pea or Haunted Pumpking in Tempo or Aggro decks, then go ahead. This statement mainly applies to people with limited resources. Don't add random cards because of a trait or tribe. Don't believe me? Try an all-Bullseye or an all-Frenzy deck. It will not go well. If you ever have the need to add random big finishers to a deck that isn't specifically Control, then you should consider making the core part of your deck better by not using those finishers and using those slots for cards that improve your gameplan. Take into account the worst case scenario when drawing cards and how often that scenario might happen. For example, 4x Red Stinger is a no-go, since drawing multiple will most likely result in a bricked hand. Cards that require you to build your deck around it, such as Trickster or Pineclone, should be run in 4 copies, as they should be drawn as consistently as possible.
- 5:13 the deck shown in the background doesn't actually have any card draw, but the cheaper version of it (8:37) does.
- 5:52 there's meant to be a background there...
- 2:00 Midrange doesn't refer to the speed of the deck, but rather the term used for decks that have a highly adaptable gameplan. They pack enough value to win into aggro but play fast enough (most of the time) to win into control. While the average turn they win might be accurate to the video, that's not the point of labeling them midrange.
- 6:41 This deck now uses 3 sugary treats and 2 flamencos. Very minor change.
- 4:13 This is no longer the case. Spudow into Chompzilla is definitely better.
- 8:36 After more testing, we have concluded that Rose's 8000 spark deck is more powerful than Immorticia's 9900 spark deck.
You forgot to pin this
@Person897 no its just whenever I pin it on my phone there's like a 50% chance it doesn't work
@@aidancodeis funnier pirates still good
@@bruh985yearsago5 yeah pretty sure it is, there's a slightly updated list in the budget testing discord though
@@aidancodei have a question can you play the daily challenge unless youve done that already
wicked good video! I'm somewhat new to PvZH but has spent a decent bit playing another CCG (undercards) so I understand a bunch of key concepts. I've just hit ultimate league with a semi-budget heal mid WK today, and I though I'm by no means bad at piloting, I've never made my own deck before. this video will probably change it, though.
Glad to hear I could help! It's always great to see entering players experiment around. Good luck :)
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FINALLY this is what i was looking for
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Wow, really good video!! I was really surprised that some cards give 4x more sparks
Cards that were nerfed in the most recent set of balance changes have always given a full refund on sparks, the last balance change was like 4 years ago though so now it just looks like random cards giving more lol
Is ToSS a maxed version of blob combo or are they separate decks? I haven't been keeping track of the recent meta
Blob Combo was initially created to tech against budget midrose in a budget tournament, but later evolved to be more suited for ladder. Toss is the maxed version, but we never had that in mind when making it. So... uh... yeah
The similarities between ToSS and blob combo are coincidence, but you certainly can still use blob combo as a stepping stone to ToSS if you really want. ToSS may not be the best that immorticia can do competitively, but it can be a good surprise tool and it's still great for ladder.
Very nice vid❤, i love it
Damm that was a great video
Great video!!!!!
Why cant I see Chomper and Impfinity in my starter heroes?
Your first pick will always be between Spudow and Solar Flare for plants and between Smash and Boogaloo for zombies. Depending on who you choose, a different third hero will appear. Chompzilla will ONLY appear second if you pick Spudow first, and Impfinity will ONLY appear second if you pick Smash first. If you pick Flare and Boogaloo, you'll get Wall Knight and Rustbolt as options.
make another video about pvz heroes!! something like this is rare.
Somebody has Tips for the maxed Budget Rose Deck? I can’t find RUclips videos with the same deck
A video of budget midrose:
ruclips.net/video/qjDE4xOSarU/видео.html
Some video links for maxed midrose:
ruclips.net/video/JnicJl_FEe4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/h0Ojvt_4h_I/видео.html
Hopefully this helps
In blob combo, can i use cheese cutter instead of dog walker?
yes! Cheese cutter is arguably the strongest 1 cost card in the game and be used in pretty much every budget beastly deck.
How do I use budget burn? Great vid tho helping me alor
In your starting hand, try to get a 1 cost card that you can play on turn 1 and either a disco dance floor for turn 2 or two 1 cost cards in a combo on turn 2. Note that you should never play unlife of the party by itself since it's really weak unless you buff it at least once. It's also really strong to buff it with egg since egg counts for 2 minions. After that you basically just want to do damage to your opponent as fast as possible before you run out of steam later on. Another neat combo is putting sugary treat on jester to force the opponent to address it, meaning they take damage either way. Surfer and snorkel are also good targets for sugary. Win the game with a big damage burst from flamenco or surfer or just by wittling down the health of the opponent fast enough.
@@aidancode wow fast respond and great combos and tips definitely subbing thanks a lot bro keep it up
How do i get sparks bc i can't get any 🤔🤔
It's a pretty slow process, but in general you can either rank up fast to get a bunch of gems (in which case you want a powerful budget deck like impfinity pirates or chompzilla tempo) or you can watch ads for gems. There's no magical solution to it, but if you play optimally you'll get about 2000 gems per season.
Man said don't pick solar flare, like one of best budget hero that can get you to ultimate oof
Also smash has top tier budget sport/going viral decks
Okay uh I figured we'd get a few people saying stuff like this, which makes sense, especially considering that some of the most popular pvzh youtubers have said that solar flare and smash have really good decks, but you need to realize that that was back in 2018. Since then, we've tested our decks extensively on ranked mode and against each other. For several months 40 people worked together to discover exactly what decks were best on budget. I highly recommend you join the pvzh official discord or the pvzh budget testing discord so we can show exactly what we mean. aggro solar flare and smash sports were good back in the day, but now they are severely outdated.
@@aidancode I still get to ultimate easily with solar flare deck its fast too, just gotta craft haunted pumpking
@@_cran yeah absolutely solar flare aggro is great, that's why I recommended it in the video. it's just that it's outdated and the other decks featured here are more powerful nowadays. they're all recent inventions that have had many more years to develop so it makes sense that the modern decks are better. solar flare can still definitely hit ultimate, it's just that stuff like immorticia blob and midrose can do it better.
@@_cran ladder is pretty bad so getting to ultimate isn't a very high accomplishment
Is funnier pirates good enough for rank 40-50
yes, though there's an updated deck that you can find in the database in the budget testing discord
No professor brainstorm budget deck?
Professor Brainstorm isn't that good on budget
So basically there's a very small space for creativity not the type of card game I wanna spend too much time on😢😢
I'd say there's quite a bit of creativity. It's why our community has lasted so long. The main problem is the lack of updates.
@@aidancode oh that's nice guess I'll have to play the game more but it was kind of a filler game until the new card game came out from ninja kiwi cards Bloon storm it has really interesting mechanics that are different from pvz heroes
@@Bel43_rick_ga-kill bcs looks cool. It's definitely not nearly as balanced or as in depth as pvzh yet but it's got great potential.
@@aidancode yea I'll have to see how it compares to pvz heroes once they actually release it
Too much advertising of the server doesn't teach much
I counted. About 13 seconds were spent advertising the server in a video that is 9 minutes 40 seconds long. That equates to roughly 2.2% of the video spent advertising the community. I'm sorry that I didn't accommodate your interest in remaining in the dark about public resources. I'm currently working on another, more in-depth tutorial and will do my best to reduce the mention of helpful resources to less than a percent in order to support people with as low attention spans as you.
ngl premium pack i always get ass
Completely inaccurate, everyone knows that you should just run pile and win from high rolling
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These new players man, I can't take it 😂
Just the amount of misinformation in this video is truly frightening
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(If you have any problems you can always tell me and I'll ammend the pinned comment)
@@aidancode I do respect your open mind for amendments
It's just that I cringe so hard when I see a Pirate deck without Swash or a Blob deck without teleport(That blob is dead on arrival when you play it dry to a ton of removal cards). Also loose cannon in any deck is always questionable especially when the Meta on the plant side is Heal and Guardian
But I do understand that is a video meant for budget players who do not have 4 copies of teleport and teleportation zombie so having a decent budget blob deck is not possible
Instead of showing how much sparks it takes to craft the entire deck they should focus on crafting individual high quality cards that can be used in many top tier decks such as:
Going Viral
Flameface
Tricarrotops
Bananasaurus rex
Gatling Pea
Pineclone
Black eyed pea
Conman
Spacetime
Area 22
Trickster
Teleport
Teleportation zombie
Clique pea
Lima
Galacta
Quazard
Astrocado
Aloesaurus
Dark Dragon
Brainana
Haunted Pumpking
Con cannon
Forget me nuts
Those are just a few must crafts
Another thing is the pack openings, when you start off you want to open individual packs but once you have a decent enough deck start buying the 1000 gem packs for maximum value. I would suggest starting on premium pack(so that you can get the bread and butter cards as well as the good finishers, getting heroes especially the good ones is another bonus) then you want to start opening some Galactic(Environments plus good super rares) once you have a decent enough collection. You don't really have to open any colossal because you could just craft the good rares.
But mostly open the Premium.
For the starter hero selection you should choose Wall Knight and Solar flare because they are really high quality heros who are budget friendly with decks such budget heal and aggro solar flare which I think is the best budget deck because you can always keep upgrading it.
For the zombie side the Smash and Impfinity should be chosen because they are more budget friendly with decks such as budget sports and budget pirates which are really cheap to make for their effectiveness.
+ Impfinity is the best Zombie Hero
Another thing is that in your comment it says that you shouldn't have random one of's, replacing an uncommon with a legendary, event or super rare will probably make that budget deck better overall no matter how unlikely it is to draw
Also other useful nuggets of information Plants in this game are on average more likely to win than zombies, playing as zombies in this game is like playing dead by daylight as when you play against high level plant players they will: Punish and deny your tricks, deny your gravestones, deny your big minions and punish and deny swarm as well.
Guardian and Solar is a nightmare to deal with and you will face a never ending gauntlet of Spam Knuckles and Ramp Rose.
And playing on the plant side is like a walk in the park as long as your deck is saturated with Legendaries
Anyway if you made it this far thanks for reading and I hope this will improve your experience with PvZ Heroes! The best PvZ game and best game on mobile.
@@aaronconvery Swash can be a very highrolly card but it also is a win more card and easily removed or blocked. Win more cards may feel good to play but they are just winmore cards if you already have many pirates hitting face that live then you are probably in a very good position already. Compared to a card like ice pirate which can be very good tempo and does more damage. And also this is budget so we don't have teleports at all, but even with that blob is still very good because of how cheap it is at forcing a response. Blob is also good because of cards like swimmer that can copy it and removing 2 very big threats on turn 6 can be pretty difficult. I do understand your point and we did talk about how narrow some cards are for crafting but really the only narrow cards shown are astro shroom and swimmer. Area is a really damn good card and an auto include into almost beastly deck. Jelly bean is the best card in the smarty class and ketchup is also a pretty good card.
@@aaronconvery Aidan is a rather experienced player who's spent a long time building and testing budget decks. There's also an entire community of players dedicated to figuring out what works best for budget players. The information in this video is a collaboration of many of the best budget players in the game, so you can absolutely trust the information there.
Also regarding your comment about swash and blob, swash has almost no usability in budget (at least competitively, maybe it's good in ladder). A 2/2 for 2 isn't very reliable, and in budget you can't run conman or grave robber (unless it's the 15k category) so you don't have enough good 1 drops to buff. In maxed, swash is still bad despite this because the overall power level of the format is too high for a 2 cost 2/2 that will at most buff 2 cards (usually only buffing only 1 or even 0). As for blob, I can agree that teleport makes it much better, but it's still a force to be reckoned with either way. If the opponent doesn't have hard removal, they have to find a way to chump block a massive attacker that drops down as soon as turn 3. Often times blob will become a 7/5 or even stronger, which is devastating in a lower power format like budget. It's also still great on ladder where removal is often too slow and blob can just outpace it, and there are many great options for unblocking in budget.
Also, crafting individual cards is great, but it means very little without a full deck to use it in. For example, astro shroom is a great craft, but it only makes sense if you also have all the tools for a good nightcap cyclecap style deck. With some of the other cards you mentioned (like pineclone or haunted pumpking), they require very specific decks to function and may simply be a bad idea to craft if you're not interested in crafting those sorts of decks (and not to mention neither card sees much competitive play anymore).
Edit: Forgot to note about pack openings. Premium packs are ok, but not for budget players. The rare and uncommon pools are heavily saturated with bad cards that you shouldn't be running. Even outside of budget, you don't exactly have your "bread and butter" there. In fact, most cards in premium packs are very situational. Your bread and butter cards for budget will come from colossal, and in maxed will come from colossal (for plants) and galactic (for zombies).
The amount of misinformation inside the mind of the average pvzh player is disheartening.