I love the way that Nathan puts a bike through its paces in an extremely thorough and comprehensive way! Even if you never get up to that level of riding, it's nice to know that your bike is extremely capable, even if you're not!
The way Nathan is able to really express the pros and cons of a bike is amazing! It's as if you can really "follow" him as he shares his viewpoints and you feel you really understand what he's saying and sharing. Tops as always!! 👍💯💯
Thank you Nathan, a real review and one that actually points out that the triumph is not a direct competitor to the new Himalayan or CF Moto 450. It is clearly a street scrambler and not a green lane bike.
Seems like a nice… bike! Glad it all went well for you in Iceland, and the Triumph certainly seems to have held its own, and been more suitable than those bigger bikes on the trip. Certainly the RR wheels make a BIG difference to the look. Another sensible and balanced view from Dorothy’s Speedshop. Winner! Les
Nathan, I took my 400x back to Bridge Motorcycles in Exeter last week and Triumph have finally sorted the electrical glitches out. Full software updates and no jerkiness on the throttle, no engine management lights and no starting problems ( it apparently was a software glitch with the immobiliser) . My first service and software update didn’t resolve the problems 4 weeks ago but the latest update has.
I've ridden 10,000 miles on a Scrambler 400X in 3 months - most of that on the TransAmTrail and other dirt roads in the States. All I added was the Triumph sump guard, crash bars and after-market screen & rear rack/side plates for my soft panniers. It coped well except Oklahoma mud would amass very quickly under the front mudguard and lock the wheel up. Only had issues with fuel gauge, USB port and spurious dash lights - will get these investigated under Warranty. Fuelling is very lean meaning the engine 'hunts' which makes riding at a constant throttle setting a bit jerky (fitting a Fuel-X unit should cure this). As said in the video, it is more capable off-road than most folk realise even without Rally Raid mods (which were essential improvements on my G310GS but not really so for the Scrambler).
Just fitted a fuelX and still about jerky at small throttle settings and sometimes almost cuts motor at moving off at slow speed. Better up the rev range.
@@garymitchell6897 Please let me know if there is any change over time with the Fuel X on the Scrambler. Where did you hide the unit on the bike?Thanks, Mark
Very interesting video . I enjoyed the previous one also about your CF moto. I bought my 400 x probably because of the smooth engine and gearbox and also the non star wars look 😊. I live in Catania Sicily and the 400x is just what I need to get me up those twisty roads on Etna. I must try lowering the fork legs as you did, sounds like a good idea. I am very curious how your luggage reacted to being so close to the silencer. I noticed the this silencer keeps very cool even after a long ride. Keep up the good work 👍🙂
Thanx, Nathan! Hugely enjoyed your Island-Experience and your open, I.m.o. Unbiased evaluation of the 400x and the presentation of some very attractive modifications. Starting to „fine tune“ my 400x accordingly, though bit by bit. Cheers
Lets hope Triumph listen to you and make a few changes to take it to the next level. It's great to see a review by someone who has fully tested it and come up with some good recomendations. I'd trust your view over many others.
I'm warming to this Triumph. The engine sounds excellent. The wheels look spectacular. The rear shock finishes it off. Shame about the minor problems, although the brake disc and chain sound cheap and nasty. I wonder how durable the engine will prove to be. Nick
Pity the rally raid wheels are so expensive if you are outside of the UK. For Australia it costs 1/3 of the initial cost of the bike for the rally raid wheels, once shipping and import tax are added. Just doesn’t make sense at that price. I do understand that they are bespoke design by a small manufacturer and respect that it costs what it does, great for people in the UK/europe
None of it makes sense. It is trying to turn an entry level street scrambler into something that it will never be. This really is a bike to ride to Starbucks.
Nathan you really do have the best reviews. Keep them comming! You kept mentioning the fantic caballero 500, I remember you've riden one before and you said it was pretty good, do you know anything about it's reliability? Is the Triumph 400x the better choice between the two?
Yeah I liked the fantic and owners seem to like them. Just probably not something I'd consider buying as I always thought they were a lot of money for what they were. And standing is awkward on them due to the high exhaust.
Just discovered this channel loving the adventures, impressed with your knowledge, and everything motorbikes, particularly interested in the smaller Cc bikes 300 _ 500cc opened my eyes we all don't need big Gs or tenre 👍👍
I think you gave it a very thorough test, probably far more than Triumph would be expecting anyone to do with it. And I do wonder, the current model is the Scrambler 400X, if we go by the way they designate their models that leaves space for a far more serious off-road XE.
Great review. For road use I prefer the cast wheel with tubeless tyres. Don't like the sound of the knackered disc, pads, chain and the engine management light coming on.
Great review, Looks like triumph has a great platform with this bike, I hope is here to stay for the long run, and to keep evolving like the tigers Cheers
I reckon @OfficialTriumph should kit a few out with the Rally Raid stuff and send them to the Triumph Adventure Experience (and pay Nathan a commission for figuring out the magic formula)
I personally love the Scrambler 400X concept and looks. However, I would like to hear what you think after the engine management light is sorted and the oil is changed. Another UK Moto channel has just documented his issues with his 400X. It’s off the road again after 4500 miles because the oil and filter is littered with metal pieces. That’s a worrying sign.
I have had one for just over a month. Great in the Trossachs in Scotland due to the shit roads. I have done some Forrest tracks which it ate up. It’s been great as my first bike.
The Triumph engine has a lower piston speed the the Himmy 452, which i believe is why some people have issues with it, its not as relaxed as most singles.
@@nathanthepostman The Himmy. Having a longstroke single with a piston speed of 21m/s is asking for reliability issues down the road. The Triumph is even lower than the old 411, 17.44m/s compared to 18.63ms. To put it in perspective, all the long lived Honda/Yamaha singles from a Postie bike C70-90 to XL500 were all around the 14-15m/s. Which is kind of high speed diesel territory, or, reliable long term. Or put it more simply you could ride the the 400X and the 452 Himmy side by side for 10 hours, and you would both have covered the same mileage, however, the piston in the Himmy 452 would have covered almost 100 miles more than the Triumph piston. Not an issue for most people who swap their bikes regular.
Glowing report on the Triumph, now get your arse back up to Iceland and take the CF MOTO 450, I’d love to see a review on that. Honest as honest gets 👍👍😀
From a purely road based agenda, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the Enfield 450 Guerrilla, it may not have off road ability of a modified 400x but there's a lot on paper i prefer. Remains to be seen if the vibe issues of the Himalayan are also present on the road focused bike. Interesting times.
Yes the gorilla looks interesting. Not my kind of bike for the small front wheel but I bet the chassis is well sorted. Not sure I could live with that engine tho, and in that style of bike it'll put even more focus on it. Be interesting to see how it does
@@nathanthepostman yep agreed, I might end up with a 400x at this rate and just spend a bit of the front suspension which was the one bit I didn’t gel with.
How did you clean the chain all day in the mud? That setup /w same side chain and exhaust is odd.... if you don't have a support van around... wouldn't be my choice for a tour around Europe tbh.
Thanks Nathan. I appreciate your real world reviews. I have a couple of highway blasters and want to downsize to a bike that is happy to crawl along bush tracks, now my son has moved into 4wd-ing. The lightest bike available seems to be the suzuki sx250 or baby Strom. Have you tested it? Judging by your review the triumph 400x seems like a good option, but I get the impression it will need some money spent on the suspension atleast?
Thanks rod. For what you want I'd go for the Suzuki. I haven't ridden it but it gets good write ups and I think it'll be a bit more softly sprung which will be nice on the dirt
When you said “there are better bikes like a **** or a **** or a Himalayan “ did you mean the 411 or the 450? Just wondering if I should stick with my 411 or switch to something else.
The Triump looks like it has held it's own spot in the group quite well. Looks retro rugged with the knobbie tires. Interesting call on the 452 not being able to achieve the sweet spot. My 411 can trug between 30 and 80 mph in 5th gear. Other bikes I had to go back threw the gears but that 411 is a horse of a different color. 🤔🤔🤔🤩 Wondered if the GS310 would fit into your group at all?
These are the ones.... www.amazon.co.uk/GOOFIT-Universal-Motorcycle-Handbrush-Protector/dp/B078Z9GTCY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3_pp?crid=2NF5VH6PLY8ZY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mmnlP8-Ql4QSy-tCe2-YeVOo6SV9Gf9Ac-SX8S_J9x1sNWdyKVFARjF24pwTIN5p8RljAYuQ4xlVhoF9gHIgU-3wXq_pHgqi2NV26xfCf3a9QhmEi0iRGKfPzZAo5X3twdqurQ_0jQvyqKIWj___IzUa3m4yTa8X4CwXJt6hxTcXGSCMWW-moUjpEeh787-6fGBT9Aow5PRB2M3zHIemyA.wguzs7N07z9LM8r37WQGlqi7uorcvmOmNIoPrNtyimE&dib_tag=se&keywords=motorcycle+hand+guards&qid=1725351010&sprefix=motorcycle+hand+guards%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-3
Would you advise this as a first bike? I'm 36 years old and about to take my test. I'll mostly be doing towns and backroads but want to explore a bit too. I'm considering the 400x or the scram 411
Either or really. The triumph definitely has more pace. But on a bumpy back road it's hard to beat the scram, and value wise they're exceptional. Try and ride one of the two to try and barrow it down
I have one of these and two things about it irritate me (and another is niggling). The poor rear suspension and the absurdly wide bars. I don't use it off road as I have more appropriate bikes for that, so the pads and chain are fine at 1,500 miles. Nathan is right about the engine though, and on smooth roads it's very good at going round bends - UK roads are getting less smooth by the day though. It is annoying that to give the bike the rear suspension it needs costs £300 plus and the work needed to pull bits off the bike. If Triumph had put a decent shock on it from day one it might have added to the cost - but not as much as it will cost to fit a Hagon or something from Rally Raid. As for the bars - the right hand switch/throttle control doesn't come apart when you remove the screws, and as it's an electronic throttle I stopped pulling on it as I don't know what's in there. My narrower Renthals are still on the shelf. If I fail to change the bars the bike will have to go.
I see you dropped the front forks so the front end is higher with more rake thus more stable. I think it should have come from factory like this. Stock front end is too twitchy
Yeah I think with the triumph you're unlikely to do proper off road as it's just not got the suspension. The stock rims would have coped with Iceland alright so I do think for the triumph they're more vanity than necessary for the type of riding people are going to be doing with the bike. Lovely rims tho
I like the concept of NOT upgrading components on a $5500 bike. Wheels, suspension, brake upgrades - that could be up around another $4k. What else could you get for $9500 that would just be better out of the gate? The consensus is that this bike is good enough for the money to just enjoy and I’m increasingly down with that philosophy.
Yes I agree. A bike that works straight out of the crate is always the best. However, with the triumph the rear shock has changed it (for me) from being a bike I sort of enjoyed riding to one I love riding. So £500 is more than money well spent. If you buy the bike and are happy with it how it is then that's great. Ideal . But to me it transforms the bike
Great no bullshit as always, i said before and will again that it looks 10x the bike with the wheels ,that is inarguable and would be without doubt the requirement if i had one. The points you raise make it quite the expensive little machine, sounds like the factory kit is sub par and i know it is built to a price but 5700 is still 5700 - Adding 1200 on wheels and i expect front and rear sussers combined will cost 1200 (minimum) and we are heading quite the way north. Seems to me unless someone is a die hard triumph needer, the caballero whoops it over and over and with ease in every area, they are available new at 5700 now with proper spec, that is a hell of a lot of bike in this scrambler format and it needs nothing from factory
I'd love to know where you can get a Fantic Caballero 500 Rally or Rally Explorer for £5700. That's the price of the 125cc version. Comparing like for like the Caballero 500 Scrambler with 150mm of travel front and rear is £6749, the Triumph £5795. Move up to the Fantic Caballero 500 Rally with 200mm of travel and you're at £7399 or £7649 for the Rally Explorer which has the additional rear rack and a single soft pannier. That's £1800 difference to hand to Rally Raid, or even stick with the standard Triumph Scrambler and use the money to have the adventure?
![HIMALAYAN 450 v Triumph 400X / CF Moto 450MT / Honda NX500, Best Small Adventure Bike [QuickTest#42]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ew25wUZLLy8/mqdefault.jpg)
I love the way that Nathan puts a bike through its paces in an extremely thorough and comprehensive way! Even if you never get up to that level of riding, it's nice to know that your bike is extremely capable, even if you're not!
Thanks James. Yes the guys at RevZilla also gave it a good run out in the himalayans and the bikes seemed to hold up ok.
A dirt bike with the looks to take around the city as well as into the mud. Truly the ideal for me!
I don't think I've ever seen a bike that looked so well tested as that triumph does here. Well done fella, keep up the good work.
The way Nathan is able to really express the pros and cons of a bike is amazing! It's as if you can really "follow" him as he shares his viewpoints and you feel you really understand what he's saying and sharing. Tops as always!! 👍💯💯
Ha. Making it up as I go along
Thank you Nathan, a real review and one that actually points out that the triumph is not a direct competitor to the new Himalayan or CF Moto 450. It is clearly a street scrambler and not a green lane bike.
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Seems like a nice… bike! Glad it all went well for you in Iceland, and the Triumph certainly seems to have held its own, and been more suitable than those bigger bikes on the trip. Certainly the RR wheels make a BIG difference to the look. Another sensible and balanced view from Dorothy’s Speedshop. Winner! Les
Epic journey, great review... "fantastic engine..best single.." is high praise indeed. Thanks Nathan.
Nathan, I took my 400x back to Bridge Motorcycles in Exeter last week and Triumph have finally sorted the electrical glitches out. Full software updates and no jerkiness on the throttle, no engine management lights and no starting problems ( it apparently was a software glitch with the immobiliser) . My first service and software update didn’t resolve the problems 4 weeks ago but the latest update has.
That's great to hear. Glad there's a fix. I had mine serviced at bridge and it's ready for another look over so I'll get it booked in
I've ridden 10,000 miles on a Scrambler 400X in 3 months - most of that on the TransAmTrail and other dirt roads in the States. All I added was the Triumph sump guard, crash bars and after-market screen & rear rack/side plates for my soft panniers. It coped well except Oklahoma mud would amass very quickly under the front mudguard and lock the wheel up. Only had issues with fuel gauge, USB port and spurious dash lights - will get these investigated under Warranty. Fuelling is very lean meaning the engine 'hunts' which makes riding at a constant throttle setting a bit jerky (fitting a Fuel-X unit should cure this). As said in the video, it is more capable off-road than most folk realise even without Rally Raid mods (which were essential improvements on my G310GS but not really so for the Scrambler).
Just fitted a fuelX and still about jerky at small throttle settings and sometimes almost cuts motor at moving off at slow speed. Better up the rev range.
@@garymitchell6897 Please let me know if there is any change over time with the Fuel X on the Scrambler. Where did you hide the unit on the bike?Thanks, Mark
@@markcarter2467 Hi Mark the wiring loom is long even to put modules under rear seat where the rear shock spanner goes
Great review of the 400. Love your delivery and honesty, thank you.
Nathan the Postman... humble 400X salesman... because you just sold me on this bike.
Very interesting video . I enjoyed the previous one also about your CF moto.
I bought my 400 x probably because of the smooth engine and gearbox and also the non star wars look 😊.
I live in Catania Sicily and the 400x is just what I need to get me up those twisty roads on Etna.
I must try lowering the fork legs as you did, sounds like a good idea.
I am very curious how your luggage reacted to being so close to the silencer. I noticed the this silencer keeps very cool even after a long ride.
Keep up the good work 👍🙂
Thanx, Nathan!
Hugely enjoyed your Island-Experience and your open, I.m.o. Unbiased evaluation of the 400x and the presentation of some very attractive modifications. Starting to „fine tune“ my 400x accordingly, though bit by bit.
Cheers
Just what I was waiting for!
It's got so much mud on it Nathan I wouldn't be surprised if it flowered 😂. Great video as always
Or start growing potatoes
Lets hope Triumph listen to you and make a few changes to take it to the next level. It's great to see a review by someone who has fully tested it and come up with some good recomendations. I'd trust your view over many others.
I'm warming to this Triumph. The engine sounds excellent. The wheels look spectacular. The rear shock finishes it off. Shame about the minor problems, although the brake disc and chain sound cheap and nasty. I wonder how durable the engine will prove to be. Nick
Pity the rally raid wheels are so expensive if you are outside of the UK. For Australia it costs 1/3 of the initial cost of the bike for the rally raid wheels, once shipping and import tax are added. Just doesn’t make sense at that price. I do understand that they are bespoke design by a small manufacturer and respect that it costs what it does, great for people in the UK/europe
None of it makes sense. It is trying to turn an entry level street scrambler into something that it will never be. This really is a bike to ride to Starbucks.
Nathan you really do have the best reviews. Keep them comming!
You kept mentioning the fantic caballero 500, I remember you've riden one before and you said it was pretty good, do you know anything about it's reliability? Is the Triumph 400x the better choice between the two?
Yeah I liked the fantic and owners seem to like them. Just probably not something I'd consider buying as I always thought they were a lot of money for what they were. And standing is awkward on them due to the high exhaust.
You've got me wanting one of these....
Just discovered this channel loving the adventures, impressed with your knowledge, and everything motorbikes, particularly interested in the smaller Cc bikes 300 _ 500cc opened my eyes we all don't need big Gs or tenre 👍👍
Great review. Awesome adventure. Thanks so much for sharing your journey and an honest opinion. Cheers
I think you could talk about this bike all day and it would still be interesting. Good review thanks
Great bike to ride especially the low-end torque is amazing
I think you gave it a very thorough test, probably far more than Triumph would be expecting anyone to do with it.
And I do wonder, the current model is the Scrambler 400X, if we go by the way they designate their models that leaves space for a far more serious off-road XE.
Great review. For road use I prefer the cast wheel with tubeless tyres. Don't like the sound of the knackered disc, pads, chain and the engine management light coming on.
Great review, Looks like triumph has a great platform with this bike, I hope is here to stay for the long run, and to keep evolving like the tigers
Cheers
Great video, really detailed! I am curious to know about the tubeless spoke wheels used on the motorcycle, brand prices etc.
Thanks.
I reckon @OfficialTriumph should kit a few out with the Rally Raid stuff and send them to the Triumph Adventure Experience (and pay Nathan a commission for figuring out the magic formula)
I personally love the Scrambler 400X concept and looks. However, I would like to hear what you think after the engine management light is sorted and the oil is changed. Another UK Moto channel has just documented his issues with his 400X. It’s off the road again after 4500 miles because the oil and filter is littered with metal pieces. That’s a worrying sign.
What was the name of the channel Bruce?
Sorry for the time delay, I’m in Australia. The channel is Ianiakean. Good luck.
I have had one for just over a month. Great in the Trossachs in Scotland due to the shit roads. I have done some Forrest tracks which it ate up. It’s been great as my first bike.
How are the stock tyres on dirt and mud?
@@method341 they were fine, I have no issues with them.
The Triumph engine has a lower piston speed the the Himmy 452, which i believe is why some people have issues with it, its not as relaxed as most singles.
Which do you mean skara? The triumph or the himis not as relaxed?
@@nathanthepostman The Himmy. Having a longstroke single with a piston speed of 21m/s is asking for reliability issues down the road. The Triumph is even lower than the old 411, 17.44m/s compared to 18.63ms. To put it in perspective, all the long lived Honda/Yamaha singles from a Postie bike C70-90 to XL500 were all around the 14-15m/s. Which is kind of high speed diesel territory, or, reliable long term. Or put it more simply you could ride the the 400X and the 452 Himmy side by side for 10 hours, and you would both have covered the same mileage, however, the piston in the Himmy 452 would have covered almost 100 miles more than the Triumph piston. Not an issue for most people who swap their bikes regular.
Glowing report on the Triumph, now get your arse back up to Iceland and take the CF MOTO 450, I’d love to see a review on that. Honest as honest gets 👍👍😀
Only at max chat though, in truth, because of the different characteristics of a long and short stroke motor, the real difference is less 🤔
@@devonbikefilms Its all relative, slow both bikes down, the the extra 4m/s is still there. No hiding from it.
Add 2gals of gas and it has the same specs as a gen1 klr650. Just saying how good the early KLRs were.
Nice video. Thank you. I have a question about the spokewheels, where did you buy them?
From a purely road based agenda, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the Enfield 450 Guerrilla, it may not have off road ability of a modified 400x but there's a lot on paper i prefer. Remains to be seen if the vibe issues of the Himalayan are also present on the road focused bike. Interesting times.
Yes the gorilla looks interesting. Not my kind of bike for the small front wheel but I bet the chassis is well sorted. Not sure I could live with that engine tho, and in that style of bike it'll put even more focus on it. Be interesting to see how it does
@@nathanthepostman yep agreed, I might end up with a 400x at this rate and just spend a bit of the front suspension which was the one bit I didn’t gel with.
hi what is the size of tyre used in the rear?
Top review Nathan. Thank you 👍
No worries, thanks Ian
Ye, a lot of good stuff to consider. Cheers Nathan.
How did you clean the chain all day in the mud?
That setup /w same side chain and exhaust is odd.... if you don't have a support van around... wouldn't be my choice for a tour around Europe tbh.
Thanks Nathan. I appreciate your real world reviews.
I have a couple of highway blasters and want to downsize to a bike that is happy to crawl along bush tracks, now my son has moved into 4wd-ing. The lightest bike available seems to be the suzuki sx250 or baby Strom. Have you tested it?
Judging by your review the triumph 400x seems like a good option, but I get the impression it will need some money spent on the suspension atleast?
Thanks rod. For what you want I'd go for the Suzuki. I haven't ridden it but it gets good write ups and I think it'll be a bit more softly sprung which will be nice on the dirt
that looks like a mega trip !!!!
When you said “there are better bikes like a **** or a **** or a Himalayan “ did you mean the 411 or the 450?
Just wondering if I should stick with my 411 or switch to something else.
The Triump looks like it has held it's own spot in the group quite well. Looks retro rugged with the knobbie tires.
Interesting call on the 452 not being able to achieve the sweet spot.
My 411 can trug between 30 and 80 mph in 5th gear. Other bikes I had to go back threw the gears but that 411 is a horse of a different color. 🤔🤔🤔🤩
Wondered if the GS310 would fit into your group at all?
I do have a 310 GS. Nice bikes. Good long distance machines. A bit marmite but some people really like them
good stuff. remind me never to buy a used bike off you😁
Haha. No I wouldn't buy one off me either!
@@nathanthepostman 😂😂
hello Nathan!, can you tell me wich knucle wards are those? thank you for your awesome work
These are the ones....
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Would you advise this as a first bike? I'm 36 years old and about to take my test. I'll mostly be doing towns and backroads but want to explore a bit too. I'm considering the 400x or the scram 411
Either or really. The triumph definitely has more pace. But on a bumpy back road it's hard to beat the scram, and value wise they're exceptional. Try and ride one of the two to try and barrow it down
Hi, can you told me Where can I get those wheels? Or what motorcycle do they come from? Pleasee 🙏🏾. I love how it looks your Scrambler 400X
Please give me the link to the hand guards you got for the 400X. Thanks
Will the Triumph speed 400 rear suspension be fitted on the scramble 400x for convenience of shorter riders?
I have one of these and two things about it irritate me (and another is niggling). The poor rear suspension and the absurdly wide bars. I don't use it off road as I have more appropriate bikes for that, so the pads and chain are fine at 1,500 miles. Nathan is right about the engine though, and on smooth roads it's very good at going round bends - UK roads are getting less smooth by the day though. It is annoying that to give the bike the rear suspension it needs costs £300 plus and the work needed to pull bits off the bike. If Triumph had put a decent shock on it from day one it might have added to the cost - but not as much as it will cost to fit a Hagon or something from Rally Raid. As for the bars - the right hand switch/throttle control doesn't come apart when you remove the screws, and as it's an electronic throttle I stopped pulling on it as I don't know what's in there. My narrower Renthals are still on the shelf. If I fail to change the bars the bike will have to go.
Where did you bought these gold wheels! I want them !!
Triumph, hope you’re listening.
I see you dropped the front forks so the front end is higher with more rake thus more stable. I think it should have come from factory like this. Stock front end is too twitchy
Yes that's something John did at rally raid. He said the same thing. Makes it less twitcy. Batter on the trails
Those are Excel Rims. The best in the world. I don't think they're a vanity exercise, more a necessity for proper off road.
Yeah I think with the triumph you're unlikely to do proper off road as it's just not got the suspension. The stock rims would have coped with Iceland alright so I do think for the triumph they're more vanity than necessary for the type of riding people are going to be doing with the bike. Lovely rims tho
An unnecessary and expensive luxury on that bike.
@@davidmatthews3093not the suspension. It transforms the bike
Scrambler 400 has engine Stalling issue at lower RPM at 1/2 gears , is it Right❓❓❓
Some have reported stalling. Mines done it a few times. I'm on a KTM 390 this week and that did it as well. I think it's a consequence of running lean
I like the concept of NOT upgrading components on a $5500 bike. Wheels, suspension, brake upgrades - that could be up around another $4k. What else could you get for $9500 that would just be better out of the gate? The consensus is that this bike is good enough for the money to just enjoy and I’m increasingly down with that philosophy.
Yes I agree. A bike that works straight out of the crate is always the best. However, with the triumph the rear shock has changed it (for me) from being a bike I sort of enjoyed riding to one I love riding. So £500 is more than money well spent. If you buy the bike and are happy with it how it is then that's great. Ideal . But to me it transforms the bike
Have you seen the vlog about water in the frame on the cfmoto450?
Yeah just the struts for the sump guard. Looks like an easy fix
Great no bullshit as always, i said before and will again that it looks 10x the bike with the wheels ,that is inarguable and would be without doubt the requirement if i had one. The points you raise make it quite the expensive little machine, sounds like the factory kit is sub par and i know it is built to a price but 5700 is still 5700 - Adding 1200 on wheels and i expect front and rear sussers combined will cost 1200 (minimum) and we are heading quite the way north.
Seems to me unless someone is a die hard triumph needer, the caballero whoops it over and over and with ease in every area, they are available new at 5700 now with proper spec, that is a hell of a lot of bike in this scrambler format and it needs nothing from factory
I'd love to know where you can get a Fantic Caballero 500 Rally or Rally Explorer for £5700. That's the price of the 125cc version.
Comparing like for like the Caballero 500 Scrambler with 150mm of travel front and rear is £6749, the Triumph £5795.
Move up to the Fantic Caballero 500 Rally with 200mm of travel and you're at £7399 or £7649 for the Rally Explorer which has the additional rear rack and a single soft pannier.
That's £1800 difference to hand to Rally Raid, or even stick with the standard Triumph Scrambler and use the money to have the adventure?
@@AlexOnABoat I very nearly bought one last week on auto trader, there were 5
I wish I could get the frantic in the us
Other than the power how does the 400x compare to the 411 scram on the trails?
The scram is better on the trails just for the extra suspension it has which I think is the same spec as on the Himalayan
Buyers of this bike are probably going to be impressed with the pricing, having to add suspension and wheels etc to make it a decent bike seems
Qual roda raiada colocou na Scrambler 400!!!
They're from Rally Raid here in the uk
@@nathanthepostman Pena que aqui no Brasil não temos essas coisas!!!! Triste!!!
I’ve seen people take a stock 400 on motocross tracks
Possibly the Triumph of old, but new! Their good name cannot have been a fluke!
Am I bad when I laugh at people going down in the middle of creek ?
Ha. No. We're all laughing deep down
Nice looking so dirty ❤❤❤