Interesting discussion. I was involved in the neutracutical industry for several years from the extraction and processing equipment end. I have been to the "convention" in Las Vegas where companies from all over the world try to sell their large quantities of raw materials. I have been in the large companies that sometimes reject raw materials because they have the proper test equipment. Many smaller companies do not have that expensive equipment so you are taking a chance. I make my own magnesium water, grow some of my own mushrooms and try to get most from food...but often not possible. Vitamin D3 is one good example. The pills/capsules are sourced from soybean oil, fish oil, lanolin oil (wool), etc.
Most people don't put 2 and 2 together to figure it out. If there is a large margin that means the source product is cheap. Why is it cheap because it is produced in bulk; then the next question is where is the bulk product produced. Only two places dominate - China and India. So anybody selling vitamins to you claiming theirs is the most potent, most pure is BS'ing you. By the way most of those bulk powders are produced in factories that make medicines - you will never know whether your vitamin C or whatever was run through the same equipment that only an hour ago was producing cancer drugs that kill living cells. Next time you buy a proprietary vitamin ask them where their factory is and ask for a tour. If they say Nevada be suspect. Because sure there are factories in Nevada mixing bulk powders and putting them in pills and bottles but that is not manufacturing the product.
Facts @sammavitae114! I laugh when I see "Manufactured in the US". It's 95% foreign ingredients, made with 100% foreign equipment, and often with non-US citizen labor lol. Same with the most potent claim. One should usually seek just normal potency product that are clean versus the "best" whatever that means. One thing re margins is that retailers also take more on supplements. For example ~50% margin vs ~30% on food. So even with higher quality sourcing you sadly need more margin with supplements vs food. Btw. Utah and New Jersey are also big on this. Not just Nevada.
Great points @AmazingPhilippines1! We pay an arm and a leg to test every batch at Four Sigmatic, but it weeds out the bad suppliers quickly. Most don't have a clue and they get played. Btw, what mushrooms do you grow? That is AWESOME!
Thanks for sharing your wisdom. The one thing I didn't know was Costco was good for buying supplements there. I've always stayed away from them because of the bulk products. I thought they were made cheaply or something. Thanks for the tip. I drink Four Sigmatic coffee and protein drinks on a daily basis. Love your products.
Costco also sells tons of unhealthy products too, but the labels are accurate. So you can trust the contents of the items labeled. You can also buy same brands from other stores if you want. And awesome that you like Four Sigmatic products too
Thanks for the video info! Four-sigma creamer mushroom keto products are great! Us old people do need augmentation and supplimentation, IMHO. I was introduced through 4Sigma creamer placement into Grocery Outlets on the west coast. Smart! Problem. 'Kept running out, so, had to try to recreate it while waiting for my shipments from 4S. Then I started innovating, removing ashwaghanda (no pos. evidence but bad taste) and adding additional 'rooms, creatine and collagen peptides. Along with more coco powder & monkfruit sweetener, this wizard's brew 15:02 graces my morning latte. Or, rather, my "mush-mocha." Now my wife likes it too. You made it happen, many thanks!
Tero’s message still came across anyway. Take the word in American English “Aluminum” the Brits call it Aluminium and the are correct. I got what Tero was saying from the start, thinking it may have been an alternate to Proprietary. He message was greater than that and I appreciated it.
Your suggestions are genuinely appreciated 👍.
Glad you like them!
This was great. I'm always trying to increase my knowledge of Holistic care. Thank you, from Texas
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful! Thanks ❤
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting discussion. I was involved in the neutracutical industry for several years from the extraction and processing equipment end. I have been to the "convention" in Las Vegas where companies from all over the world try to sell their large quantities of raw materials. I have been in the large companies that sometimes reject raw materials because they have the proper test equipment. Many smaller companies do not have that expensive equipment so you are taking a chance. I make my own magnesium water, grow some of my own mushrooms and try to get most from food...but often not possible. Vitamin D3 is one good example. The pills/capsules are sourced from soybean oil, fish oil, lanolin oil (wool), etc.
Are you adding magnesium bicarbonate to the water? Are there other magnesium forms you can do this with? Thank you.
Most people don't put 2 and 2 together to figure it out. If there is a large margin that means the source product is cheap. Why is it cheap because it is produced in bulk; then the next question is where is the bulk product produced. Only two places dominate - China and India. So anybody selling vitamins to you claiming theirs is the most potent, most pure is BS'ing you.
By the way most of those bulk powders are produced in factories that make medicines - you will never know whether your vitamin C or whatever was run through the same equipment that only an hour ago was producing cancer drugs that kill living cells.
Next time you buy a proprietary vitamin ask them where their factory is and ask for a tour. If they say Nevada be suspect. Because sure there are factories in Nevada mixing bulk powders and putting them in pills and bottles but that is not manufacturing the product.
Facts @sammavitae114! I laugh when I see "Manufactured in the US". It's 95% foreign ingredients, made with 100% foreign equipment, and often with non-US citizen labor lol.
Same with the most potent claim. One should usually seek just normal potency product that are clean versus the "best" whatever that means.
One thing re margins is that retailers also take more on supplements. For example ~50% margin vs ~30% on food. So even with higher quality sourcing you sadly need more margin with supplements vs food.
Btw. Utah and New Jersey are also big on this. Not just Nevada.
Great points @AmazingPhilippines1! We pay an arm and a leg to test every batch at Four Sigmatic, but it weeds out the bad suppliers quickly. Most don't have a clue and they get played.
Btw, what mushrooms do you grow? That is AWESOME!
Thanks for sharing your wisdom. The one thing I didn't know was Costco was good for buying supplements there. I've always stayed away from them because of the bulk products. I thought they were made cheaply or something. Thanks for the tip. I drink Four Sigmatic coffee and protein drinks on a daily basis. Love your products.
Costco also sells tons of unhealthy products too, but the labels are accurate. So you can trust the contents of the items labeled. You can also buy same brands from other stores if you want. And awesome that you like Four Sigmatic products too
I love the video but the ad was like half of it...
Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸 TRUMP
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Thanks for the video info!
Four-sigma creamer mushroom keto products are great!
Us old people do need augmentation and supplimentation, IMHO.
I was introduced through 4Sigma creamer placement into Grocery Outlets on the west coast. Smart!
Problem. 'Kept running out, so, had to try to recreate it while waiting for my shipments from 4S.
Then I started innovating, removing ashwaghanda (no pos. evidence but bad taste) and adding additional 'rooms, creatine and collagen peptides. Along with more coco powder & monkfruit sweetener, this wizard's brew 15:02 graces my morning latte.
Or, rather, my "mush-mocha."
Now my wife likes it too.
You made it happen, many thanks!
Sounds like a powerful way to start the day!
Ive been using four sigmatic protien powder and coffee for years now! Now everybody and their uncle wants to sell mushroom coffee 🤨
facts :)
Love this coffee order it all the time. My brother has hypertension his doctor said no coffee but he said he like this coffee
glad you like it!
Do you offer 1 on 1 consultation?
Ground up horse hooves..from Indiana.
So whats the name ir site to buy your products
link in bio or google Four Sigmatic
Hairline supplement? 😂
But he looks sickly.
It's pronounced pro-pri-it-ary
PRO prrrr-eye It-Terry
Wh-o-car-es.
Thanks! English is not my first or second language so certain words are hard to pronounce. Hope you still got the point.
@@Just4AZ1 that's wrong it's woo-ker-zzz
Tero’s message still came across anyway. Take the word in American English “Aluminum” the Brits call it Aluminium and the are correct. I got what Tero was saying from the start, thinking it may have been an alternate to Proprietary. He message was greater than that and I appreciated it.