@red suffer Sniper skips leg days so it's understandable. You might be right about Spy. He has same speed as Medic but Medic has to wear a backpack plugging the medi gun.
@red suffer thing about spy is that he ain't in no hurry, and he is a spy, there supposed to be sneaky, not fast and athletic. Kinda same with sniper. Snipers are also to a extent supposed to be sneaky, plus sniper doesn't need to run, because he most of the time will not be in the battle zone. I personally think scout is simply faster than the others because he is athletic , also the reason he can double jump. Also scouts runs compared to sniper's and spy's semi-fast jog
@@SqwimpyTF You make a good point, but see... Engie oozes with Texas stereotypes. A Wild West Revolver is more in line for him. A Desert Eagle is more in line for soldier.
I think the reason why it doesn't have is that you can only have so much as to not dilute it. Like right now I don't think there's gonna be another Shotgun anytime soon
Short circuit: “‘Fuck you for playing classes good at fighting sentries.’” Wrangler: “‘Fuck you for playing classes.’” I didn’t want to spit out my drink laughing at something today, but I guess I did anyway.
@@society1876 65 metal out of 200 is a lot of resource for something u get very few(3) shots against a very specific ammo type (rockets)and requires lots of timing to work well and it's primary fire is 5 metal for not much damage and basically 0 range. metal is the most important resource for engineer
PBPP is like a better version of the clearers carbine, in the sense that they both serve as a midpoint between stock and the throwable liquid. It even compares in the same way as both options give you the effect of the liquid item, but it's passive, rather then being usable by anyone on the team. The main difference is that the carbine loses waaaay more damage then the pocket pistal does. And the effect of Jarate is so strong that it's hard to justify putting it behind any kind of barrer, even when it means you have something that shoots bullets.
also both only work for you, while this is fine with the mad milk mostly, your team benefits more from you coating a few guys on a point or payload with the piss jar than just giving yourself minicrits.
@@lilsunny7399 Similarly, the carbine doesn't lend itself to Sniper's long-range focus, while the pocket pistol suits scout's in-your-face style perfectly. Sniper's jarate lets him contribute to his team in mid-range conflict a ton by throwing the jar and then fucking off to snipe. Scout can do more work by himself with the pistol up close, at the minor cost of a non-support class losing a bit of team support.
@@zesnowpea6347 They don't have falloff but you contend with bullet spread to the point that it's simply not worth it, and regardless, ramp-up is still a thing on minicrits so it is still in your best interest to use them up close
The amount of times I outplayed more powerful classes with the Pistol is hilarious, no one expects it and the confused reaction is part of the strategy.
I mean the pistol can do upwards of 140+ dmg a second. It's not a two tap shotgun, but it's still pretty gud. It's like a meh primary. Great secondary because of that
"Remember - switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading" --Man who got shot in the head with a pistol And is always a reliable deterrent to a matador hungry spy
Engineer: "I'll try it your way for once." Scout: "Remember what we used to say?" Spy: "Don't do it!" Engineer: *_"Dominated."_* | Scout: *_"Dominated!"_*
I love the pistols so much, to the extent that I'll miss my primary shots a ton, switch to the pistol, get 3 kills, and think, "Huh, I'm doing well with the pistol. If only there was some sort of... pistol primary." So anyways I have a Hale's Own Shortstop
@@zzyxxyzz5442 "One should never fail" is the same as "One should always", so its saying "you should always underestimate the pistol's strength". "One should never underestimate" or "One should never fail to realize" would be simple fixes.
I mean they weren't wrong tho, they really were just following orders, even if those orders were kinda fucked up. And yes, I'm talking about both the wrangler engineers and the nazis
Fantastic video, showcasing just how great the pistol (and to a slightly less extent it’s sidegrades) are objectively the best for consistent damage output at midrange… But who needs that’s when you can get less consistent long range burst damage?! Cleaver Supremacy Forever!
*sidegrade (I'm saying that because I feel like everything else in the Scout or Engie's secondary slot is set up as their own thing, so in my opinion, the Pocket Pistol is the Stock Pistol's only sidegrade)
Well this was fucking amazing. Not only do we get the usual on-point analysis, the Devil May Cry theming complemented the aesthetic without getting in the way. And yes, the pistols are hella solid even in cases where alternatives like the Cleaver's damage burst or the Wrangler's fuck-your-push-ness would technically be more advantageous. I rank this video a big fat *S* . No cap, it may just be your best one to date.
My favorite part about the Pocket Pistol is negating afterburn when fighting Pyros, especially when they're using a weapon like the Scorch Shot, you can just chip em at mid range where they can't hit you and essentially invalidate afterburn.
Love the DMC influence. Played through the series recently just like you. Your editing and SFM work has gotten a lot better over time. Absolutely Smoking Sexy Style.
A RUclipsr needs to be more than just entertaining, they need to be clever and creative. Fish, you are without a doubt all of the above. A DMC edit for grading? Smoking Sexy Style!!!
I think it is a misnomer to call the pocket pistol overpowered. I 100% agree that it is the best pistol - but not by that much. It's only marginally better than stock (and worse in some scenarios) and the stock pistol is the baseline for secondary balance. Yes a scout using it will be slightly more effective than one using stock, but not enough to make scout unbalanced or unfair.
It’s basically power creep. It has better DPS in the short and long term and health on hit. It’s hard to complain about one item being marginally better than stock, but if more items were balanced like it people would start to notice.
@@TheTrueEvilSpud actually... the pbpp reloads 0.1 sec slower. Doesnt seem like much but it can matter a lot since u have to reload more often. In that regard the stock can be more consistent and can handle uberhealed enemys better, due to it doing more damage PER RELOAD. You just hit the kill threshhold more often. That said, u always have to consider maps and if u are using a 6 shot, or 2 shot primary. When there are more corners to reload until the enemy pops up at your screen, or many health packs get taken the pbpp is way better. If the game has more medics, the gun gets worse however.
the pistol has always been my favourite for playing engineer. it's just more fun. even if you're being more defensive, the personal independence that the perfectly reliable pistol gives you just feels great. and if you're playing more actively, the huge reserves of pistol ammo means you can happily use the widowmaker or the frontier justice even if you're not great with them. it really is a true workhorse
I love scouts pistols because they're the perfect example of just good balance in tf2. You have the reliable stock pistol that shoots enemies at a steady pace, deals fine damage and requires good aim. There's the more tactical winger which lets the scout specialize in what their class is made for, jumping around like a lunatic and dodging everything. Then there's the pretty boy's pocket pistol which is made to inverse the power of the winger and help scout cover some weaknesses he has. All of these secondaries are perfect, the stock is good, the side-grades are good for adjusting your playstyle and they all are relatively simple compared to most other weapons. No other class really has this kind of balance in their alternative weapons, like how the shotgun is good on soldier period but the reserve shooter is just a better shotgun with a niche just to top it off, and then there's the panic attack which is all niche. It might be cause soldier is pretty powerful and is made to be a very general class with little weakness but little strength but there's not as much zen with it's picks as scout has.
@@PyrrhaNikos115 as a medic main the Blutsauger may be objectively stronger than the pretty boy’s, but the opportunity cost is so so much higher. Crossbow fixes so many medic problems it’s insane. Meanwhile Scouts opportunity cost is barely anything.
@@Skullhawk13 Is it necessarily stronger? The Pocket Pistol is definitely a lot FASTER, I've noticed, and being hitscan it's also way more accurate All you need is the 9 rounds in the clip and you could easily melt a Medic or Demo
@@Skullhawk13 I also did say MINI-Blutsauger, meaning it isn’t going to be quite as good in terms of general use. That said, it’s still more than a viable pick for Scout’s secondary weapon if not for that Oppurtunity cost you mentioned. As Medic: if you’re using the Blutsauger, you’re not healing ANYONE else on your team and basically being as useful as an SMG sniper. Yeah, it’s good for a hairy situation when your team is all dead, but that’s it. But with the Pocket Pistol, it’s a secondary weapon that can be used in every single situation to great affect that still contributes to the team ON TOP of healing you, it just doesn’t have the oppurtunity to heal you as much as the Blutsauger in a single clip.
I’ve always wanted the engineer to get a revolver, maybe an equivalent of the winger with less combat potential but a speed boost on hit, or something with slower firing speed but better damage at range, to deal with people outside your sentry’s range when you can’t do chip damage with your primary. Engineer really just needs more secondaries in general.
Unironically I've used the winger so long and so consistently (it's been my universal secondary for like 6 years) it's hardwired into my brain, if I'm playing scout, I instinctually switch to secondary whenever I jump lol
Engineer: "I try your way for once." Scout: "remember what we used to say" *smirk* Engineer: *smirk as well* Engineer/Scout: *put out pistol together and say* "Jackpot" *and shoot*
I can’t count the amount of times pretty boy’s has saved me from being burnt to a crisp by a pyro, or blown to smithereens by a soldier, it’s crazy good for both damage and healing and you barely have that much of a hinderance with a reduced ammo size.
It’s finally here! I’ve been looking forward to this video as I *ADORE* pistols in video games. Truly an underrated option in some games. Also, because the video’s out, I won’t explode!
Pistols tend to be so dope. The Black Mesa Glock shown at the start, the many options in PAYDAY, the rifle-grade handguns in Borderlands 2, the wimpy but trusty universal sidearm in XCOM 2012, I love them all. Though I gotta say, ever since I tried the 9mm Autoloader in Ashes Afterglow, I've found my favourite handgun ever. Don't even need to upgrade it to the 3-round burst (which is another monster entirely) or at all for that matter, even if it's in the rusty ill-kept stock form it works great for spamming against thugs or finishing off a mutant once your shotgun is dry and melee is a bad idea.
Since the first time i tried the 2007 version of TF2, i've always loved the pistol You expect a semi auto pea shooter, but get a mini SMG with usable damage No need to spawn fire, no need to manually reload the minuscule clips I'd play a Valve game where you only have the pistol any time
I'm actually surprised that valve (back when they were giving actual updates and not just bug fixes) hasn't made a new pistol for engineer considering the fact that he's a texan and cowboys are know for their quick draws using pistols, most of whice are revolvers
Bro I adore the DMC 3 aesthetic in this video, also for some reason using the engineer's pistol feels better than using the scout's, could be because as engineer you really don't have much to work with when you're running the rescue ranger and the jag lol, the pistol surprised me by how effective it was
That and the enormous ammo reserve eases the pressure of running out for more ammo, which the Scout has an easier time doing. (No, I'm not counting dispenser hoggers, those are noobs)
The pocket pistol is perfectly fine man, if you simply MUST nerf it just nerf it's ammo reserve or something because as it currently stands sure it's fast and has regen but that faster fire rate has a mentality to spam it and burn out your ammo pool
awesome video, fish. love listening to you talk about this game. made me wanna play. i always loved all the stock weapons in this game, especially the stock shotty and pistol
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Everyone always be like "Why does Engineer have 200 reserve when Scout only has 36!!"
He's got more pockets, 4head
This is why scout is faster, he only carries 36 ammo compared to engineer’s 200
@red suffer Sniper skips leg days so it's understandable. You might be right about Spy. He has same speed as Medic but Medic has to wear a backpack plugging the medi gun.
@red suffer thing about spy is that he ain't in no hurry, and he is a spy, there supposed to be sneaky, not fast and athletic. Kinda same with sniper. Snipers are also to a extent supposed to be sneaky, plus sniper doesn't need to run, because he most of the time will not be in the battle zone. I personally think scout is simply faster than the others because he is athletic , also the reason he can double jump. Also scouts runs compared to sniper's and spy's semi-fast jog
Seriously though why the fuck does he have so much reserve ammo? Why isn't this brought up more?
@@Manglet762 pockets man, he's got more pockets and bigger pockets
I'm just upset that the Engineer, a TEXAN Engineer, doesn't have any sort of revolver as a primary/secondary.
Yeeeeeeeeehawww pardner, i need to enlargen mah cowboy hat
Nah he needs more of a desert eagle type pistol.
@@VagueCastle649 The desert eagle isn't as american as a good old six shooter
@@RodWaffle WDYM it literally has "eagle" in the name.
@@SqwimpyTF You make a good point, but see... Engie oozes with Texas stereotypes. A Wild West Revolver is more in line for him. A Desert Eagle is more in line for soldier.
The Pistol should honestly have more sidegrades it's such an underused form factor
Probably why everyone wants to give Engi a Revolver.
I think the reason why it doesn't have is that you can only have so much as to not dilute it. Like right now I don't think there's gonna be another Shotgun anytime soon
Give sniper the pisstol already
@@jaywerner8415 just give engie stock revolver but make him use it in single action giving less spread but slower ROF
@@2hot34 That would work honestly.
Short circuit: “‘Fuck you for playing classes good at fighting sentries.’”
Wrangler: “‘Fuck you for playing classes.’”
I didn’t want to spit out my drink laughing at something today, but I guess I did anyway.
I am the enforcer spy taking potshots from locations unknown. I am the only one not getting fucked.
"Fuck you for playing"
Pistol: Fuck you
short circuit takes like 65 metal i dont know why fish hates on it so much
@@society1876 65 metal out of 200 is a lot of resource for something u get very few(3) shots against a very specific ammo type (rockets)and requires lots of timing to work well and it's primary fire is 5 metal for not much damage and basically 0 range. metal is the most important resource for engineer
Imagine if engi got a pistol that basically did the same thing as the pocket pistol, but instead of health, it’s metal.
Sounds amazing
Broken as hell
That's just a pistol version of the Widowmaker that doesn't eat metal per shot
@@rabbinemo6402 I can imagine the model would look like a double A battery
At the expense of what, 24 rounds in reserve and reduced fire rate?
I guess Engineer's pistol is a DMC reference because Dante also never runs out of bullets.
Although unlike Engie's popgun, E&I deal pretty pathetic damage.
Well, demons have more durability than humans.
Bro Ebony and Ivory shoot demons not humans@@DinnerForkTongue
PBPP is like a better version of the clearers carbine, in the sense that they both serve as a midpoint between stock and the throwable liquid. It even compares in the same way as both options give you the effect of the liquid item, but it's passive, rather then being usable by anyone on the team. The main difference is that the carbine loses waaaay more damage then the pocket pistal does. And the effect of Jarate is so strong that it's hard to justify putting it behind any kind of barrer, even when it means you have something that shoots bullets.
also both only work for you, while this is fine with the mad milk mostly, your team benefits more from you coating a few guys on a point or payload with the piss jar than just giving yourself minicrits.
@@lilsunny7399 Similarly, the carbine doesn't lend itself to Sniper's long-range focus, while the pocket pistol suits scout's in-your-face style perfectly.
Sniper's jarate lets him contribute to his team in mid-range conflict a ton by throwing the jar and then fucking off to snipe. Scout can do more work by himself with the pistol up close, at the minor cost of a non-support class losing a bit of team support.
I’d agree if the pocket pistol wasn’t basically a direct upgrade rather than a sidegrade.
@@Splitcyclewastaken don’t minicrits ignore fall off? Seems helpful at range
@@zesnowpea6347 They don't have falloff but you contend with bullet spread to the point that it's simply not worth it, and regardless, ramp-up is still a thing on minicrits so it is still in your best interest to use them up close
Man, Dmc3 soundtrack goes hard in this video. And the thumbnail, the cherry on top
Fish is becoming a man of motivation.
"Jackpot"
And the interchapter screens. And the ranking. And the mission splash screens. The whole thing is stylish as hell.
The editing is so good on this.
No one should underestimate engineers 200 reserve ammo
A reliable sidearm that you can keep firing practically forever? Sounds like a good idea to me. Kinda idea someone with 11 phds might come up with.
my favorite thing is to just play battle engi with a pistol
who needs a shotgun when you can just pepper everyone to death
come to think of it, engineer should have a pistol that consumes 1 metal per shot, that would be cool
@@Hunter1393B sort circuit
@@ravrav6433 i meant a real pistol
The amount of times I outplayed more powerful classes with the Pistol is hilarious, no one expects it and the confused reaction is part of the strategy.
Same with the Blutsauger. So many dead Pyros.
I mean the pistol can do upwards of 140+ dmg a second. It's not a two tap shotgun, but it's still pretty gud. It's like a meh primary. Great secondary because of that
oi, eu vi na descração do seu canal que você é brazileiro! só queria mencionar isso : )
I like using the pistol as Engineer and I just recently completed my first run of Devil May Cry 3. All in all, stellarly made video.
Ranked S for stellar. Nice.
"Remember - switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading"
--Man who got shot in the head with a pistol
And is always a reliable deterrent to a matador hungry spy
Engineer: "I'll try it your way for once."
Scout: "Remember what we used to say?"
Spy: "Don't do it!"
Engineer: *_"Dominated."_* | Scout: *_"Dominated!"_*
Dmc reference?
@@tonixweb3237 yep
dmc3 to be exact
and then the spy two taps both of them with the amby because he understands how good it is
Vergil the Engineer main would never even consider the pistol when the Wrangler offers him more POWER.
SOMEBODY ANIMATE THIS!!!!
I love the pistols so much, to the extent that I'll miss my primary shots a ton, switch to the pistol, get 3 kills, and think, "Huh, I'm doing well with the pistol. If only there was some sort of... pistol primary." So anyways I have a Hale's Own Shortstop
So in other words, You have a hail's own "closest thing that you can get to a pistol primary."
That would actually make for a good tag
Remember when the Shortstop was a secondary? I remember.
Try out GRU, Banana and Tomislav. Tomislav really feels like the pistol primary, just as much as Shortstop does for me.
This video is great, from the editing, to the references, to the jokes, and it still manages to be informative
23 hours ago it says on this comment
@@TaterPotater1987
yes
…and?
@@readytoplay7874 this video was posted 4 hours ago but ur comment says it's 1 day ago
@@readytoplay7874 and it also says it was 1 day ago in my phone
@@comradedogo
yeeees.
...and??
"One should never fail to underestimate the sheer strength of the pistol."
I think you forgot not to misuse multiple negatives.
Wait how does English grammar work?
@@zzyxxyzz5442 "One should never fail" is the same as "One should always", so its saying "you should always underestimate the pistol's strength".
"One should never underestimate" or "One should never fail to realize" would be simple fixes.
(Me looking at the thumbnail)
My brain: “pretty cool.”
My mouth: J A C K P O T
The most famous Dengineer line. I sure love it when Dengineer does funny flips and goes “WoooOoOoOOOOOoohoooo”
@@FilthyCasualty Wacky Wohoo Sandvich Man
Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed this.
To an outside observer, this is a worrying statement.
He even has the dmc3 upgrade menu music in the background
“It’s easy to justify using the wrangler in this situation the same way the Nazis justified their actions in the Nuremberg trials-“
LMFAO
"I've been at the mercy of men just following orders. Never again."
sir i was just following the meta
@@pelayla
"i had no options!"
You know it's a good Out-of-Left-Field joke when someone acknowledges it. 💀👌
I mean they weren't wrong tho, they really were just following orders, even if those orders were kinda fucked up. And yes, I'm talking about both the wrangler engineers and the nazis
Fantastic video, showcasing just how great the pistol (and to a slightly less extent it’s sidegrades) are objectively the best for consistent damage output at midrange…
But who needs that’s when you can get less consistent long range burst damage?!
Cleaver Supremacy Forever!
Too bad engie has the wrangler
Oh wow you really are That Guy.
*sidegrade (I'm saying that because I feel like everything else in the Scout or Engie's secondary slot is set up as their own thing, so in my opinion, the Pocket Pistol is the Stock Pistol's only sidegrade)
For scout, i always liked the idea of scout having the ability to switch out his shotgun for duel welding two separate pistols
My scattergun aim sucks but my pistol aim is pretty good, so i love this idea
and have them based around Ebony & Ivory
Shortstop buff
Well this was fucking amazing. Not only do we get the usual on-point analysis, the Devil May Cry theming complemented the aesthetic without getting in the way. And yes, the pistols are hella solid even in cases where alternatives like the Cleaver's damage burst or the Wrangler's fuck-your-push-ness would technically be more advantageous.
I rank this video a big fat *S* . No cap, it may just be your best one to date.
6:35 from the screen
to the ring
@@aaaaaaaaa2343to the bend
to the king
Remember: switching to your sidearm is faster than reloading.
True
*In addition:* time spent reloading is time spent not doing damage
My man Gaz!
Remember, switching to your melee is always faster than reloading your sidearm.
PREACH
My favorite part about the Pocket Pistol is negating afterburn when fighting Pyros, especially when they're using a weapon like the Scorch Shot, you can just chip em at mid range where they can't hit you and essentially invalidate afterburn.
Love the DMC influence. Played through the series recently just like you. Your editing and SFM work has gotten a lot better over time. Absolutely Smoking Sexy Style.
1:28 You said one should never fail to underestimate the sheer strength of the pistol. Meaning you should always underestimate it. Lol.
That thumbnail is very motivating, makes me want to hit the jackpot
A RUclipsr needs to be more than just entertaining, they need to be clever and creative. Fish, you are without a doubt all of the above. A DMC edit for grading? Smoking Sexy Style!!!
This editing is magnificent, some even might say, smokin’.
I'd say it's jackpot
I think it is a misnomer to call the pocket pistol overpowered.
I 100% agree that it is the best pistol - but not by that much.
It's only marginally better than stock (and worse in some scenarios) and the stock pistol is the baseline for secondary balance. Yes a scout using it will be slightly more effective than one using stock, but not enough to make scout unbalanced or unfair.
It’s basically power creep. It has better DPS in the short and long term and health on hit. It’s hard to complain about one item being marginally better than stock, but if more items were balanced like it people would start to notice.
@@TheTrueEvilSpud The health barely matters imo
@@TheTrueEvilSpud actually... the pbpp reloads 0.1 sec slower. Doesnt seem like much but it can matter a lot since u have to reload more often. In that regard the stock can be more consistent and can handle uberhealed enemys better, due to it doing more damage PER RELOAD. You just hit the kill threshhold more often. That said, u always have to consider maps and if u are using a 6 shot, or 2 shot primary. When there are more corners to reload until the enemy pops up at your screen, or many health packs get taken the pbpp is way better. If the game has more medics, the gun gets worse however.
its funny how engineer has like atleast 100 bullets inside his pistol and scout has like 40
*200
*36
Not even in the pistol, it’s a separate clip
He has more pockets
I love the DMC3 thing you have going on here
the pistol has always been my favourite for playing engineer. it's just more fun. even if you're being more defensive, the personal independence that the perfectly reliable pistol gives you just feels great. and if you're playing more actively, the huge reserves of pistol ammo means you can happily use the widowmaker or the frontier justice even if you're not great with them. it really is a true workhorse
Not only that, it punches above its weight for a workhorse too. Like damn.
0:30 why did you kill him :(
Love how those DMC streams are gettin' our boy *motivated*
[monobloc chair scrape]
I've had many life saving moments with the pistol and it's variants and it's unbelievable
Ah, you have Luger too?
@@Frappe3621 I don't
The pistols are clutch and a joy to use. Simple as that.
the dmc 1 mission screen style chapter cards made me grin like a doofus
incredibly well done
I'm pretty sure this video is his excuse to make a Devil May Cry themed tf2 video
This video with all of the DMC3 references deserves an S
If it had that "Jackpot" at the end, it would get a SSS
I love scouts pistols because they're the perfect example of just good balance in tf2. You have the reliable stock pistol that shoots enemies at a steady pace, deals fine damage and requires good aim. There's the more tactical winger which lets the scout specialize in what their class is made for, jumping around like a lunatic and dodging everything. Then there's the pretty boy's pocket pistol which is made to inverse the power of the winger and help scout cover some weaknesses he has. All of these secondaries are perfect, the stock is good, the side-grades are good for adjusting your playstyle and they all are relatively simple compared to most other weapons. No other class really has this kind of balance in their alternative weapons, like how the shotgun is good on soldier period but the reserve shooter is just a better shotgun with a niche just to top it off, and then there's the panic attack which is all niche. It might be cause soldier is pretty powerful and is made to be a very general class with little weakness but little strength but there's not as much zen with it's picks as scout has.
The sheer number and consistency of the Devil May Cry 3 references in this video just earned you a subscriber. Keep up the good work
All that without stealing the spotlight too. He hit the exact measure.
"Sometimes you just need a little less gun"
I absolutely love dmc 3 and the fact that this video is structured like it made it 100 times better for me. Amazing work 😄
I love how you mimicked dante and vergil's jackpot from dmc3 for your thumbnail, 10/10 video
Wait, the entire video is a DMC reference, holy shit
The pocket pistol made me think i was a mini blutsaguer.
I honestly compare the two a lot. It basically IS a mini-blutsauger when you REALLY think about it.
@@PyrrhaNikos115 as a medic main the Blutsauger may be objectively stronger than the pretty boy’s, but the opportunity cost is so so much higher. Crossbow fixes so many medic problems it’s insane. Meanwhile Scouts opportunity cost is barely anything.
@@Skullhawk13 Is it necessarily stronger?
The Pocket Pistol is definitely a lot FASTER, I've noticed, and being hitscan it's also way more accurate
All you need is the 9 rounds in the clip and you could easily melt a Medic or Demo
@@red5t653 okay maybe I misused the word objectively, But the rest of my comment is still accurate. That’s fair though I did make a poor word choice.
@@Skullhawk13 I also did say MINI-Blutsauger, meaning it isn’t going to be quite as good in terms of general use. That said, it’s still more than a viable pick for Scout’s secondary weapon if not for that Oppurtunity cost you mentioned. As Medic: if you’re using the Blutsauger, you’re not healing ANYONE else on your team and basically being as useful as an SMG sniper. Yeah, it’s good for a hairy situation when your team is all dead, but that’s it.
But with the Pocket Pistol, it’s a secondary weapon that can be used in every single situation to great affect that still contributes to the team ON TOP of healing you, it just doesn’t have the oppurtunity to heal you as much as the Blutsauger in a single clip.
Sometimes I call the pistols "The Lvl 1 Building Breaker 3000"
Fish sounded so sincere about his opinion in this video. Good job fish.
Love the Devil May Cry 3 reference thumbnail. Jackpot!
I’ve always wanted the engineer to get a revolver, maybe an equivalent of the winger with less combat potential but a speed boost on hit, or something with slower firing speed but better damage at range, to deal with people outside your sentry’s range when you can’t do chip damage with your primary. Engineer really just needs more secondaries in general.
Omg the devil may cry references are so good and hit so close too home, great video as always
Honestly love the dmc style of the video and as a pistol user in most games i have played this was a great video to watch.
This is one of the best videos you have made the paceing just great and the joke keep coming
Really loved this video, it's charm is great, and I learned how to use these weapons effectively!
I love the pistol, you can DPS dudes down with it.
The quality of your videos has been improving dramatically, good work Fish Stick.
On a Stick.
Loving all the DMC references in the video, class act
Following up shots with tracked, powerful pistol aim and getting the kill is a moment of motivation.
I saw the DMC reference from miles away, the DMC3 OST still hit hard as all hell
Unironically I've used the winger so long and so consistently (it's been my universal secondary for like 6 years) it's hardwired into my brain, if I'm playing scout, I instinctually switch to secondary whenever I jump lol
This thumbnail just makes me think of Dante doing the last hit Baseball swing of Dance Macabre saying "BONK!" 😂
I love the dmc3 transitions, great job on those, and the vid in general.
Hmmm, something about that thumbnail fills me with motivation
For engineer I think there should be an anti-gunslinger that lets your dispensers overheal to like half the normal amount
Love the dmc theme. One of my favorite game series.
fish, this is your best edited video by far
I like the pomson for battle engineer, especially on ctf maps cuz getting a domination with just the pomson is *hilarious*
Another great, high effort video! Love to see it! c:
The DMC3 transitions instantly earned my sub.
This is some amazing editing right there. Great job, you're really improving!
One of the most solid videos yet fish, loved the stills for the change of chapter.
Engineer: "I try your way for once."
Scout: "remember what we used to say" *smirk*
Engineer: *smirk as well*
Engineer/Scout: *put out pistol together and say* "Jackpot" *and shoot*
The DMC episode?
I’m down lmfao
Engi: I’ll try it your way for once
Scout: remember what we used to say
Spy: no. Don’t do it
Scout and engi: jackpot
I can’t count the amount of times pretty boy’s has saved me from being burnt to a crisp by a pyro, or blown to smithereens by a soldier, it’s crazy good for both damage and healing and you barely have that much of a hinderance with a reduced ammo size.
It’s finally here! I’ve been looking forward to this video as I *ADORE* pistols in video games. Truly an underrated option in some games. Also, because the video’s out, I won’t explode!
Pistols tend to be so dope. The Black Mesa Glock shown at the start, the many options in PAYDAY, the rifle-grade handguns in Borderlands 2, the wimpy but trusty universal sidearm in XCOM 2012, I love them all.
Though I gotta say, ever since I tried the 9mm Autoloader in Ashes Afterglow, I've found my favourite handgun ever. Don't even need to upgrade it to the 3-round burst (which is another monster entirely) or at all for that matter, even if it's in the rusty ill-kept stock form it works great for spamming against thugs or finishing off a mutant once your shotgun is dry and melee is a bad idea.
0:47 | *clearly, we need Mo1st Cr1tikal to have a little chat with you*
The editing here is top notch.
Audio, visuals, timing, the entire presentation complements the analysis. You can tell this took plenty of effort from a dedicated creator to make.
Your DMC references are yet another reminder i need to get back into those games.
Since the first time i tried the 2007 version of TF2, i've always loved the pistol
You expect a semi auto pea shooter, but get a mini SMG with usable damage
No need to spawn fire, no need to manually reload the minuscule clips
I'd play a Valve game where you only have the pistol any time
bro this editing is getting better and better. the improvement is extremely obvious to see. good job bro
Just gonna throw out an idea here: if the pocket pistol does need a small slap on the wrist maybe a slower reload speed could work.
10-15% damage penalty could do it too, shave off 1-3 damage per hit losing 9-27 damage per clip.
Slower reload would be prime. You get a fast burst of high damage that also heals, but boy you better make that magazine _count._
I legit jumped when I heard the DMC loading thing. I 've played too much of that game
I'm actually surprised that valve (back when they were giving actual updates and not just bug fixes) hasn't made a new pistol for engineer considering the fact that he's a texan and cowboys are know for their quick draws using pistols, most of whice are revolvers
Vorobey teached me exactly how powerful this devil can be in the right hands.
*taught
Bro I adore the DMC 3 aesthetic in this video, also for some reason using the engineer's pistol feels better than using the scout's, could be because as engineer you really don't have much to work with when you're running the rescue ranger and the jag lol, the pistol surprised me by how effective it was
That and the enormous ammo reserve eases the pressure of running out for more ammo, which the Scout has an easier time doing. (No, I'm not counting dispenser hoggers, those are noobs)
I love the Devil May Cry styling for each section. Well done!
The pocket pistol is perfectly fine man, if you simply MUST nerf it just nerf it's ammo reserve or something because as it currently stands sure it's fast and has regen
but that faster fire rate has a mentality to spam it and burn out your ammo pool
The slight nerf it deserves is _reload speed._ You still have your damage burst, but you damn better make it COUNT.
The comparison of the defense of the wrangler to the Nuremberg trials is possibly the funniest bit ever done in a TF2 video
The stock pistol is unironically my favorite weapon in tf2
And it's not difficult to see why!
Can we appreciate the beauty in this video's style in editing? Some of the best work you can see on this platform
As an Average Battle Engineer I must tell you how much the pistol has gotten me out of a pickle.. also valve please add another pistol to the Engie
This video format (references to another game + going over a subset of weapons instead of a single weapon) is sick af, good work
Also, to fix the pocket pistol I would just get rid of the firing speed bonus and replace it with the old no fall damage buff.
Same.
Perfectly balanced, as all things apparently should be.
But fall damage is what, 5HP at most?
awesome video, fish. love listening to you talk about this game. made me wanna play. i always loved all the stock weapons in this game, especially the stock shotty and pistol
Honestly, if we ever get a TF3, I’d like Scout to switch from scatterguns to akimbo pistols. I dunno I just think it fits.
No, just no
NEVER
It's like... his only unique feature
I guess, but no, that would turn scout into already existing shooter characters. Its part of his identity.
I once killed scout with a single mag of winger thanks to random crits lmao, bro melted in a second and it was quite a funny team fortress 2 moment
Immortal temptation takes over my mind
Condemned
Fallen weak on my knees, summon the strength
Of mayhem
I am the storm that is approaching
Provoking black clouds in isolation
I am reclaimer of my name
Born in flames, I have been blessed
My family crest is a demon of death
Forsakened, I am awakened
A phoenix's ash in dark divine
Descending misery
Destiny chasing time
Inherit the nightmare, surrounded by fate
Can't run away
Keep walking the line between the light
Led astray
Through vacant halls I won't surrendеr
The truth revеaled in eyes of ember
We fight through fire and ice forever
Two souls once lost, and now they remember
I am the storm that is approaching
Provoking black clouds and isolation
I am reclaimer of my name
Born in flames, I have been blessed
My family crest is a demon of death
Forsakened, I am awakened
A phoenix's ash in dark divine
Descent in misery
Destiny chasing time
Disappear into the night
Lost shadows left behind
Obsession's pulling me
Fading, I've got to take what's mine
Lurking in the shadows under veil of night
Constellations of blood pirouette
Dancing through the graves of those who stand at my feet
Dreams of the black throne I keep on repeat
A derelict of darkness, summoned from the ashes
The puppet master congregates all the masses
Pulling strings, twisting minds as blades hit
You want this power?
Then come try and take it
Beyond, the tree, fire, burns
Secret love, bloodline, yearns
Dark minds, embrace, crimson, joy
Does your dim heart
Heal or destroy?
Bury the light deep within
Cast aside, there's no comming home
We're burning chaos in the wind
Drifting in the ocean all alone
“Jackpot!”
Me laughing really hard after seeing an I am the storm that is approaching meme for 1000th time:
😐
@@doinyamom5810 you’re welcome.
that thumbnail goes so hard
The Fan of War paired with any of the scouts pistols is an extremely deadly combo, as long as you can hit your shots.
Damn, that gives me some naaaasty ideas.
Through my career of tf2 whenever I played scout or engineer the pistol always saved me in bad situations.
It's the trustiest secondary. No wonder it's stock.